How "China" Rigged the Little League World Series

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    How Taiwan cheated to create the most dominant little league team in little league world series history
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  • @slappygustaverson6507
    @slappygustaverson6507 Před 2 lety +4028

    Imagine getting cut from the team because you were packing too much shmeat

  • @jason_born4595
    @jason_born4595 Před 2 lety +2628

    If I was 12, and a DOCTOR(who probably wasn’t a very good one but still) thought I was an adult from just look at my “private parts” I’d have the BIGGEST ego boost ever

    • @lucypark1899
      @lucypark1899 Před 2 lety +29

      🤣

    • @freddydibnah8942
      @freddydibnah8942 Před 2 lety +2

      Good one bro

    • @etherdetroit1977
      @etherdetroit1977 Před 2 lety +56

      From what I read they check to see if you're rocking a full bush instead of size. 12 year olds don't rock full bushes.🤣

    • @colatf2
      @colatf2 Před 2 lety +25

      The fact that their entire lives were about playing baseball and then they got kicked off the team they worked their asses off for, that probably meant nothing

    • @MikeJones-rk1un
      @MikeJones-rk1un Před 2 lety +1

      Go into porn?

  • @garrettt.7490
    @garrettt.7490 Před 2 lety +1721

    Came for a baseball video, left with a 17 minute history lesson on Taiwan

    • @nunyabusiness5275
      @nunyabusiness5275 Před 2 lety +174

      Baseball doesn't exist bro, aren't you paying attention??

    • @TateTheTalisman
      @TateTheTalisman Před 2 lety +15

      @@nunyabusiness5275 this deserves more likes

    • @guyrandom1
      @guyrandom1 Před 2 lety +19

      @@TateTheTalisman your mom deserves more likes

    • @mliu1001
      @mliu1001 Před 2 lety +19

      you mean a history lesson on what roc did to taiwanese citizens

    • @Gmoney00718
      @Gmoney00718 Před 2 lety

      Thanks, I’m not watching now

  • @AbsolXGuardian
    @AbsolXGuardian Před 2 lety +648

    11:08 Fun fact the doctor that invented the scale for judging genital development would always testify against any side in court trying to use his scale to determine age, generally in CP cases where the subject's identity was unknown. Because he created it for the diagnosis and analysis of precocious and delayed puberty. That's all it's actually good for is estimating where you are in puberty. Although I bet he never expected little league age requirements to be a context his scale would be misused.

    • @shanepan5568
      @shanepan5568 Před 2 lety +26

      Jerry Sandusky has entered the chatroom.

    • @readilium3432
      @readilium3432 Před 2 lety +2

      Lots of medical advancements end up being abused. Look at Kerry Mullis' PCR process.

    • @Lappelduvideify
      @Lappelduvideify Před 2 lety +4

      @@A.F.Whitepigeon That wasn't genital, that was breast tissue. Also Puerto Rico and in a rather startling turn of events ... she was arrested for manufacturing some herself.

    • @Legio__X
      @Legio__X Před 2 lety +2

      @@shanepan5568 nice lmao

    • @greghmn
      @greghmn Před rokem

      So with respect to the dissonance between original intent and modern popular (mis)use, the Tanner scale is similar to IQ tests. Tfw the Tanner scale is literally a dick IQ test

  • @dburke8
    @dburke8 Před 2 lety +99

    Lost 17-1 to them in ‘91. They feasted on us Canadians haha. I didn’t think they were older. But we knew about their school system.

  • @michaellyons9820
    @michaellyons9820 Před 2 lety +225

    Even though it wasn't mentioned in the video, this explains the motivation of Filipino leaders to cheat their way to a Little League World Series championship in 1992. They were tired of losing to Taiwan in the Far East Regional Tournament. So at the end of the Philippines national tournament, they replaced many of the championship team's players with players from other teams to form a national team to compete in the Far East regional and then the World Series. But they got caught and had to forfeit the LLWS championship game to Long Beach, California. Long Beach had a young team in 1992 and returned to Williamsport in 1993 and won the title on the field.

    • @therealfanmaster7097
      @therealfanmaster7097 Před 2 lety +14

      Yeah he did another video which went into detail about that story.

    • @jiggeromes5825
      @jiggeromes5825 Před 2 lety +7

      it was a literal arms race, lol

    • @wetguavass
      @wetguavass Před rokem

      bull caca propaganda ....the USA corrupts its way to top of world sports. ...

    • @Nihilianth
      @Nihilianth Před rokem +8

      Yeah, that California team from 1993, that was the team where one of the parents, a dad, actually got in my face, screaming his head off at me. When I was 10. For selling a soda to some kids sitting down and in front of that dad!
      That's right. A big manly.man got in my a ten year old kid's face for making extra pocket money. A kid who was younger than his own son on that team!
      Dude got escorted off the premises and lost his family pass for the rest of the Series because of that! 🤣

    • @lanuiiohu
      @lanuiiohu Před 9 měsíci

      Stop Asian Hate.....so much racism no wonder America lost Vietnam War !

  • @aganwin
    @aganwin Před rokem +57

    This also brings up another issue with Taiwanese baseball system. Kids are trained too hard when they were young, partly due to coaches taking win/lose too seriously. You will see Taiwanese teams are dominating U12, U15 and U18, but rarely any successful MLB players. This is because by the time these players get to college ball, their arms are already toasted. Chien-ming Wang on the other hand, wasn't a star player back in school days, and fortunately avoided having to over use his arm.

    • @peterpiper9275
      @peterpiper9275 Před rokem +1

      But I guess I can say hopefully the over training is only to a small portion.dis guy added a lot of negative content that seemed not to be true.The small portion of over training is over,as news said about it.it’s ended like some 10 years ago maybe. Although it ended but you know that caused a outage of players that have big potential, but yeah we are getting back the track and also yeah we got into the scientific training stuff so pitchers are doing a lot faster now.

    • @iamdillyj
      @iamdillyj Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@peterpiper9275what did he say that wasn't true? Please provide citations also with your rebuttals for evidence. Can't say this dude is lying without disproving him. Looks like you got caught in your feelings

  • @Precomo97
    @Precomo97 Před 2 lety +556

    You easily have the best introductions on the platform. So captivating.

    • @patrickscottwalsh
      @patrickscottwalsh Před 2 lety +20

      "get ready for some shit so fucked up you will never doubt what our absurd world is capable of producing! and baseball."

    • @OwenPenner
      @OwenPenner Před 2 lety +1

      Yup!

    • @sifdorzo
      @sifdorzo Před 2 lety +5

      I’ve never been so stoked to watch a video ever than when I hear his intros.

    • @williamponce4052
      @williamponce4052 Před 2 lety

      Couldn't agree more.

    • @williamraymusic
      @williamraymusic Před 2 lety +7

      I wanna know the song you put when the title card shows up.

  • @brohanfromrohan5771
    @brohanfromrohan5771 Před 2 lety +127

    That team that ended their streak was from Kirkland, WA. I highly encourage people to watch that 30 for 30 show done on them. #20 shown in this video was one of those big kids that just dominated everybody, and he talks about his experience growing up after and how he just became average when everyone else started to catch up in size.

    • @spike8642
      @spike8642 Před rokem +2

      They didn’t dominate

    • @sgtelias2258
      @sgtelias2258 Před rokem +1

      @@spike8642 True ... if it wasn't for a walk-off miracle in the Regionals they never would have made it to Wiiliamsport

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Před rokem +3

      Yeah some kids mature much faster than others. I remember a few ‘monsters’ in our league as a kid but by the middle of high school they weren’t that scary anymore

    • @Slickmickyoyo97
      @Slickmickyoyo97 Před rokem +10

      @@spike8642 He didn't say they dominated, he was talking specifically about Cody Webster. He definitely dominated, 73-75 mph fastball, 7-0, numerous HR's going into the world championship game.

    • @AshtonHutchinson
      @AshtonHutchinson Před rokem

      My hometown!!

  • @kurtispostma7891
    @kurtispostma7891 Před 2 lety +162

    the main 2 reasons it was unfair; the fact they were trained as professional athletes for 9 hours a day (as children) gives them a big advantage, and the fact they had the ability to handpick their team from the ENTIRE country's population of 14 million vs. a regular little league's district in a state (15,000) It's like letting a football team have every 1st and 2nd round draft pick, in 5 drafts. Every year.

    • @taoliu3949
      @taoliu3949 Před rokem +18

      Dude, the US does the same thing, all teams are all star teams with players from their own region. The only difference is that the US chops itself up into multiple regions. Not only that, the top US team automatically advances into the finals. The non-American teams play amongst each other and the winner playes against the American team. In other words, Team "America" automatically has a 50% chance of winning the series.

    • @jhuang2007
      @jhuang2007 Před rokem +2

      The video is made up ... LOL you take it like facts LOL

    • @jordanwhite2285
      @jordanwhite2285 Před rokem +14

      @@taoliu3949 yeah bud it is a league that was created in the US and they added international play to it so it makes sense they have more team. The all star teams you’re saying are still in a specific district so they’re not just the damn California state all star team, they’re still chosen from a district that the league is in.

    • @taoliu3949
      @taoliu3949 Před rokem +9

      @@jordanwhite2285 OP criticise how Taiwan had an "unfair advantage", I simply pointed out how its even more stacked for the US. And the criticism isn't about the US having more teams, it's about the League setting up the brackets so that there will ALWAYS be an American team playing at the finals. THAT is in itself unfair. Not only is it unfair, it was put in place only in 1975, prior to that all teams played in a single bracket. In other words, this is a later development specifically to give US teams an advantage to win the World Series.
      The All Star Teams are based off of school enrollment. The issue is that Taiwans schools are huge, many have as many as 4000 students. Using the 20k pop metric you would have to run MULTIPLE leagues within a school, this is why Taiwan left in 1997.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Před rokem +7

      @@taoliu3949 you are only partially correct. In US, the all star teams are from local leagues - each of these leagues generally make up from 3-8 teams. The best players are picked from each team. It’s not like each state is hand picking the best 16 players from the entire state .. besides in America as it is now, the best players don’t even play little league anymore . They play travel ball so the teams you see from America are only going to get weaker

  • @element720
    @element720 Před rokem +30

    To be honest I thought all the international teams were basically composed of the best players in the country

  • @ThaNiceMeme
    @ThaNiceMeme Před 2 lety +424

    Glad to see you cover Taiwanese baseball. I'm sure you'll cover the match fixing scandals that plagued Taiwan's professional league, the CPBL, in the 1990s and 2000s. There's all sorts of criminal activity that went on during those years.

    • @Vitamortis.
      @Vitamortis. Před 2 lety +4

      do you really need to humble brag about your knowledge

    • @ThaNiceMeme
      @ThaNiceMeme Před 2 lety +43

      @@Vitamortis. No I'm just saying I think it's an interesting topic and I'm sure that since he researched all this about Taiwanese youth baseball he'd go into the Professional scene too.

    • @George_Fl0yd
      @George_Fl0yd Před 2 lety +2

      Taiwan isn’t a Country

    • @ThaNiceMeme
      @ThaNiceMeme Před 2 lety +3

      @@George_Fl0yd ok?

    • @alwoods8010
      @alwoods8010 Před 2 lety

      @@George_Fl0yd You are right, it's the real China.

  • @resevoirdog
    @resevoirdog Před 2 lety +154

    I was looking forward to hearing about the 26-0 Canada game. That year canadian baseball was proud they had an amazing squad

    • @leonwu1684
      @leonwu1684 Před rokem

      Canada was never competitive in little league baseball. Taiwan only lost to them once before or after they banned the all star team

    • @napalm8030
      @napalm8030 Před rokem +8

      Sad they had to go up against a stacked team like that when they were totally by the book. Must have crushed those kids.

  • @RetroBaseball
    @RetroBaseball Před 2 lety +539

    Seeing China in quotes makes me already think this is already going to be an amazing video.

    • @MrSniperFromMars
      @MrSniperFromMars Před 2 lety +83

      China more like Western Taiwan am I right

    • @ImAlxxy
      @ImAlxxy Před 2 lety +34

      It is China tho lol. The "Taiwanese" government is about as internationally respected and powerful as texas' state government is (as a sovereign country )

    • @aresef
      @aresef Před 2 lety +25

      I found the video’s stance on ROC’s territorial claims to be a bit unsettling.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Před 2 lety +7

      @@MrSniperFromMars
      Based and socially bankrupt

    • @joegonzales1932
      @joegonzales1932 Před 2 lety +73

      @@ImAlxxy China does not own Taiwan, Taiwan has been a independent nation for years. China though is a country that hopefully one day collapses so that the people there can build a non-communist nation.

  • @nsregelman
    @nsregelman Před 2 lety +86

    I saw some of these games live. I grew up like 20 miles away from Williamsport. Even as a kid it was obvious those teams were cheating.

    • @johnm994
      @johnm994 Před 2 lety +3

      Chris Drury once said some of the Taiwan players in 89 that his Trumbull team upset were bigger than he was during his NHL playing days.

    • @spyseefan975
      @spyseefan975 Před 2 lety +3

      I doubt many kids would notice illegal team building and no education, which as far as I can tell was the only actual cheating.

    • @johnm994
      @johnm994 Před 2 lety +8

      @@spyseefan975 I live in Asia for a decade, and not to stereotype, but a majority of the population in most of the countries over there is 5'7 and under. Taiwan regularly had 4-7 kids that were over that. I don't buy for a second that they didn't use overage players most years.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Před rokem

      @@spyseefan975 “illegal team building”
      They literally took the best players from the entire nation and put them on a single team! That type of illegal team building is all one would need to dominate the little league World Series every year.

  • @QuixEnd
    @QuixEnd Před 2 lety +113

    Kept saying they cheated much worse over and over, but it really never got THAT insane. I fell for it the first 10 times but dang finally 30 yrs later they actually lived up to the hype

  • @xanderrednaxx
    @xanderrednaxx Před 2 lety +55

    Its insane that Taiwan changed so damn much just over 70 years. Though learning the dark sides of my country is quite importent. Good honest content

    • @killemkillua
      @killemkillua Před rokem

      Maybe China is right to fuck them over

    • @manchagojohnsonmanchago6367
      @manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 Před rokem +14

      huge change even in just 40 years form a crazy 3rd world dictatorship to a relatively free well developed open market democracy.. big improvement for people in every aspect of life.

    • @xanderrednaxx
      @xanderrednaxx Před rokem +2

      @@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 true!

    • @manchagojohnsonmanchago6367
      @manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 Před rokem +11

      @@xanderrednaxx yeah i think people forget just how much better life has really gotten in taiwan in one generation. Its a great improvement.. I mean in political terms too not just economicaly.. Its good.. If more nations cN overcone such shitty social, political ect systems and normalise the world would be much better much faster.. People will say is just about an improvement in gdp but thays not all it is.. Its a change in thinking from dictatorial autocratic and almost cult-like social thinking, fear, terror, oppression as normal to freedom to think and say as you please without any duress its a huge change in peoples minds.. Look at the older people in taiwan for example.. Scrambled up by many generations of only oppressive and irrational dictatorial overlords. But in afew decades it has compleatly changed. The biggest asset to a society is rational mesured thinking and reasonable decision making being the standard in the population..

    • @xanderrednaxx
      @xanderrednaxx Před rokem +4

      @@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 good points! Wish the ppl living under CCP's broken roof could understand this.

  • @JoeBloww762
    @JoeBloww762 Před 2 lety +263

    You did it again, great video.
    The Little League World Series might have the deepest history of cheating in all of athletics and I love it.

    • @Sadiqi
      @Sadiqi Před 2 lety +15

      Nah...it's track and field...there are still world records from the 80s and maybe 90s where everyone knows there was steroids (lookin at you East Germany)...

    • @mathewjones8886
      @mathewjones8886 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Sadiqi Maybe take a glance the way of Flo-Jo and Justin Gatlin, Marion Jones, even Christian Coleman from more recent times. Pointing the finger elsewhere seems a little disingenuous. The eastern block countries may have had their issues back in the day but the US has far more recent examples in Track and Field and Baseball is littered with cheats from juiced up hitters to pitchers rubbing industrial solvents on their hands and lets not forget entire organisations engaging in stealing signs.

    • @Sadiqi
      @Sadiqi Před 2 lety +4

      @@mathewjones8886 you named individuals I'm talkin about whole national teams...

    • @Sadiqi
      @Sadiqi Před 2 lety +4

      @yossarian olympics>little league
      a whole Olympic national team (actually teams) of grown adults beats little kids...

    • @mathewjones8886
      @mathewjones8886 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Sadiqi East Germany hasn't even existed over 30 years. Athletics has always had an issue with drug cheats from almost every nation but I'd be wary of pointing the finger when the US has plenty of skeletons in its own closet. Baseball history is littered with cheats from juiced up batters to pitchers using illegal substances on their hands. The sport is a total cheat fest with entire organisations involved like in Houston.

  • @kevincutrara5286
    @kevincutrara5286 Před 2 lety +28

    There's a great Taiwainese movie called Taipei Story which centers around a kid who used to play in a world class little league team, but now is a despondent and depressed adult. Highly suggest, this history lesson made me realize how good that movie actually was, and all it was trying to capture.

  • @tim12chang
    @tim12chang Před rokem +40

    I have to admit, for a highly controversial topic, both politically and athletically, you have done an admirable job. Most of your comments are objective and truthful. For someone who grew up in Taiwan during that time, I just like to add a few points:
    1) The military style school work was not limited to the baseball players, but all the students in general. I used to spend 10 to 12 hours at school every day, and for me, I'd much rather spend the entire day playing ball than going to classes, the general students would get punished by their teachers for subpar grades no differently than the baseball players from their coaches.
    2) The Taiwan/Republic of China governemnt didn't necessarily have to hire people to crush those who supported Taiwan Independence. The idea of Taiwan Independency was highly unpopular at the time, and people would voluntarily fight against it. Even today, it's still a very polarized topic and split right about 50-50, don't let the "mainstream media" fool you.
    3) The Little League championships undoubtedly boosted the national pride for the people of Taiwan/Republic of China, but I never recalled any literatures demeaning or disrespecting the American kids, at least not anything published in Chinese. We were very happy we won, but using it as a Nazi-like racial propaganda? That was never the case.
    Thank you very much.

    • @elsenorgatito
      @elsenorgatito Před 9 měsíci

      Are you sure you aren't a member of the 5cent army? 50-55% want a STRONG declaration of Independence (which for the last twenty years would have hurt Taiwanese companies using cheap Chinese labor) and 20%+ want to continue the status quo of an independent Taiwan without poking the panda.
      Literally 1/8 to at most 1/5 of the population want to be Communist.

  • @Prod.ZonerBeats
    @Prod.ZonerBeats Před 2 lety +31

    Ah yes, my favorite and most entertaining channel for me, a huge baseball fan, has uploaded once again.😌. Seriously whenever he uploads ge makes my day better!!

  • @HokiePitcher22
    @HokiePitcher22 Před rokem +72

    The fact that with all that success they have only managed to send 16 players to the MLB tells you all you need to know about their "development " of baseball players.

    • @Civsuccess2
      @Civsuccess2 Před rokem +3

      Baseball players don't get paid millions in Taiwan. In fact, the average salary is probably less than a regular job. Most of those little leaguers would simply go back to regular lives.

    • @apt62
      @apt62 Před rokem

      As a Taiwanese, our government cares more about academics than sports or pretty much in every Asian countries.

    • @zvbx
      @zvbx Před rokem +3

      @@Civsuccess2 HokiePitcher22 didn’t say anything about professional baseball in Taiwan. He or she mentioned MLB.

    • @Civsuccess2
      @Civsuccess2 Před rokem +1

      @@zvbx To produce more than 16 players, one nation needs to have a culture which a baseball player can have guarantee high income. Not everyone is eligible for MLB, without the high salary, most players don't want to risk everything for a MLB training camp. I am simply telling you why most physically gifted athletes do not choose baseball as a career in Taiwan. That's why only the few who dare to challenge MLB farm system get to work for MLB.

    • @zvbx
      @zvbx Před rokem +2

      @@Civsuccess2 Then compare your theory to the Dominican Republic. There are plenty of Dominicans playing Major League Baseball because they are good enough to do so. Taiwan on the other hand doesn’t have that many MLB level baseball players and they have more resources. Taiwan won those titles due to cheating which even I figured when I was a child due to the fact that there were no players from Taiwan playing in the majors.

  • @pullt
    @pullt Před 2 lety +142

    Just call them Taiwan, the "China" label just pisses both sides off lol

    • @joshuaglaszek51
      @joshuaglaszek51 Před 2 lety +13

      it’s the republic of china, cry commie

    • @macdeleon3717
      @macdeleon3717 Před 2 lety +3

      @@joshuaglaszek51 it's just stupid and less efficient

    • @YoutubeChannel-ll6sw
      @YoutubeChannel-ll6sw Před 2 lety +2

      @@joshuaglaszek51 nah it's chinese taipei, part of the peoples republic of china. cope seethe and dilate, fash

    • @akallstar5
      @akallstar5 Před 2 lety +17

      @@CZcamsChannel-ll6sw It’s literally not tho. Commies are such smooth brains lulz

    • @jlascala03
      @jlascala03 Před 2 lety +7

      @@CZcamsChannel-ll6sw do research bruh

  • @beng1540
    @beng1540 Před 2 lety +98

    It's even more complicated than that... because a majority of the "good" players in Taiwan are actually indigenous Taiwanese people, who sadly like many native people around the world, face high levels of economic and social inequality. For many of these kids, it was the break many of their families needed. Keep in mind this was also during "White Terror" and marital law in Taiwan, when the government was a dictatorship and going against the government (KMT) would get you arrested or disappeared.

    • @Entername-md1ev
      @Entername-md1ev Před 2 lety +18

      Taiwan is a liberal democracy today but it’s easy to forget just a generation ago, their regime was just as brutal as the one in China right now

    • @beng1540
      @beng1540 Před 2 lety +16

      @@Entername-md1ev It isn't easy forget... February 28th is a national day of mourning to remember those that were arrested or killed by the KMT during White Terror. It is an issue that people openly and freely talk about, and that drives the Taiwanese identity today.

    • @fhb7088
      @fhb7088 Před 2 lety

      @@beng1540 and today we celebrate the time a dude jumped in a river

    • @realtalk6195
      @realtalk6195 Před rokem

      South Korea was a dictatorship prior to the 90s as well.

  • @nausadar9889
    @nausadar9889 Před 2 lety +209

    Great content as always!!! Let’s hope we get a season!!!😭😭😭

  • @lucypark1899
    @lucypark1899 Před 2 lety +14

    Good Lord, that was entertaining and informative. Absolutely engaging 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. Can’t wait for my husband to come home to play this for him!

  • @gavinvanhouten2063
    @gavinvanhouten2063 Před 2 lety +1

    Was wondering the other day when you were gonna upload again. Love your vids man I watch them over and over keep it up man.

  • @armandrodriguez8501
    @armandrodriguez8501 Před 2 lety +23

    Fun fact: the 2017 Houston Astros championship team was actually a Taiwanese little league team.

  • @seshansmith7690
    @seshansmith7690 Před 2 lety +14

    I remember how serious little league All-stars was when I was a kid. Wasn't as serious as China though. I remember things got real serious compared to the regular season. We'd practice early in the morning then at night. If it wasn't 115 degrees that time of year here I'm sure we would have been practicing all day. Seeing what these kids went through made it all seem irrelevant

  • @diegouy8277
    @diegouy8277 Před 2 lety +27

    It's kind of insane to see how much political warfare is used in sports. Feel bad for these kiddos. They were players in someone else's game.

  • @adefay2811
    @adefay2811 Před 2 lety +10

    Your videos are more entertaining than the actual sport of baseball for me! I love your videos and I'm subscribed to your channel keep doing good work bro! Thanks for the vids!!!!

  • @thefantasybaseballshow690

    Best channel on CZcams bro. Not only is the information amazing but the editing and video is 💯

  • @ethanwagner
    @ethanwagner Před 2 lety +7

    The Kirkland team that took the win against Taiwan still talks about it like it happened yesterday. I was in one of the rival leagues in the mid 2000s and some of the kids on that team now had kids on that same team 30 years later. Kinda nutty, I think there was a commemoration of the date on the pin we got by beating them in the TOC.

  • @michaellyons9820
    @michaellyons9820 Před 2 lety +35

    I've followed Little League all my life. This is the first time I've heard about the ugly incidents among spectators in Williamsport during Taiwan's games. That and the egregious cheating that was going tells me that Little League headquarters leaders were likely "willfully blind" to the scandals that occurred on their watch and in LLB's event that is on the worldwide stage. Was there external pressure on LLB Headquarters leaders to avoid addressing the problem? I do know for a fact that because the Little League World Series is a truly international event the U.S. State Department appoints a liaison to Little League to navigate the passport issues.

    • @mathewjones8886
      @mathewjones8886 Před 2 lety +3

      Didn't they just copy the pro's though? Cheating is so embedded in the sport that picking on poor Taiwan is a little rough. The MLB has had enough cheats for them to have their own hall of fame.

    • @brucerockwell337
      @brucerockwell337 Před 2 lety

      @@mathewjones8886 not much honor in any sport now. They've all been ruined.

    • @mathewjones8886
      @mathewjones8886 Před 2 lety +1

      @@brucerockwell337 Difficult to argue with that point. Money has corrupted almost any sport of note to some degree.

    • @stankatic8182
      @stankatic8182 Před 2 lety

      You're kidding!

    • @tecmye
      @tecmye Před rokem

      Can't deny the historical facts about Taiwan in LLB, but the narrative on the geo-political conflict between the PRC and ROC sounds skewed towards the PRC...the nerve of these people wanting democracy 😁😁😁...

  • @Brycebaer777
    @Brycebaer777 Před 6 měsíci +1

    My uncle was on that 74 California team, from what I heard growing up he told me they were playing 16-18 year olds, he has now passed I’m glad I got to hear those stories of his 1974 little league team and how hard it was back then to even make it to Williamsport, what an interesting video! Great work!

  • @mrboy3491
    @mrboy3491 Před 2 lety

    Another amazing video! Please keep them coming!

  • @aegisofhonor
    @aegisofhonor Před 2 lety +8

    this is a very sad story, because these were just kids doing what they were told to do and in the end, everyone lost.

  • @avrivah1101
    @avrivah1101 Před rokem +10

    I'd like to see a single youth baseball organization that wasn't corrupt in some way, shape, or form.

    • @Skank_and_Gutterboy
      @Skank_and_Gutterboy Před rokem +3

      No doubt. As a kid in the early 80s, I played in a league what wasn't Little League but basically a clone of it. I played for two years (11-12 years old). The 2nd year, I was picked for the all-star team and went over to a neighboring state in a big tournament (or at least it seemed big coming from a town of 2000 people). The hometown umps were making insanely terrible calls against us. Several times over two games our coaches nearly forfeited games on the grounds that it was too cheated for us to get any kind of fair shake. I think they had us soldier on because they didn't want to set the example that you quit when you don't like how a game is going.
      We couldn't help but notice that the "12 year olds" on both games that we played were all 6 inches taller than us, outweighed us by like 30 lbs., and most of them were shaving already. They were clearly too old to be playing in that league and tons of parents complained. I was so damn disgusted that I never played baseball again. If this is what moving up is like, I don't want it. My small town's Babe Ruth league tried like hell to recruit me and said nope, I was just done with the whole damn thing. Between the whacko "my kid's a superstar who is going pro" parents (BTW, no kid from my hometown has EVER gone pro or even made a good showing in college ball) and the cheating that I had already witnessed, I walked away from all of it and even quit watching MLB.

  • @davisjames1598
    @davisjames1598 Před 2 lety

    Incredible content man. Good job putting this together

  • @gr1nding
    @gr1nding Před 2 lety

    I love your channel bro. Please don’t stop making vids always make sure to watch a couple of them before I go to sleep at night lol

  • @WDB2005
    @WDB2005 Před 2 lety +3

    -1,000,000,000 social credit for competing in the LWS as a country

  • @nulbeans5566
    @nulbeans5566 Před 2 lety +71

    I wrote a 20 page paper for my degree about the Chinese civil war and the formation of Taiwan, and you explained it better than I ever could.

    • @anthonyluangphasi8800
      @anthonyluangphasi8800 Před 2 lety +25

      Yikes...

    • @lesmurphy5369
      @lesmurphy5369 Před 2 lety +22

      You should be embarrassed.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Před 2 lety +2

      Oh cool, I wrote a similarly lengthed and purposed paper on irregular warfare in the American Revolution and used Mao and the Chinese Civil War as a supporting example of such operations

    • @jacobhamblin4255
      @jacobhamblin4255 Před 2 lety +3

      @@lesmurphy5369 chill lol

    • @lesmurphy5369
      @lesmurphy5369 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jacobhamblin4255 lol

  • @botchjones1130
    @botchjones1130 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for your hard work and no ads!!

  • @adambrett1496
    @adambrett1496 Před 2 lety

    I wish your videos were longer. I can watch these videos all day, I love them. One of my favorite channels on CZcams.

  • @anthonyeastwood5984
    @anthonyeastwood5984 Před 2 lety +5

    bro im from Taiwan and its so crazy to see my favorite baseball channel talk about my country!

  • @sametirs7187
    @sametirs7187 Před 2 lety +3

    Amazing Content KEEP IT UP!!!

  • @jmshkm
    @jmshkm Před 2 lety +1

    I just found your channel yesterday from the Max Scherzer video. Your videos are extremely entertaining and I can tell you put a lot of work into them. Keep it up man!

  • @YungJ
    @YungJ Před 2 lety

    The build up to your intro is always _so_ good.

  • @Gunbunsoutdoors
    @Gunbunsoutdoors Před 2 lety +6

    These are always some of the craziest and most fascinating videos I watch

  • @patrickracer43
    @patrickracer43 Před 2 lety +9

    Imagine an actual riot breaking out over a Little League game

  • @SiaBia00
    @SiaBia00 Před 2 lety

    Just found your channel, love it. Great work

  • @StadiumLandings
    @StadiumLandings Před 2 lety +1

    You're becoming the GOAT of baseball content, keep up the phenomenonal work! 😀

  • @migueldeleon6677
    @migueldeleon6677 Před 2 lety +15

    Disgraceful situation, thanks for putting it out there. In the last few years the LLWS has disallowed 13 year-olds -- now players are 10-12 years old. It has leveled the playing field and, with the dampered bats, the home run rate has dropped.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Před rokem

      Just think of how many teams and players were completely cheated by Taiwan over the years though. It’s tragic

    • @nuraby_9228
      @nuraby_9228 Před 7 měsíci

      @@brianmeen2158 Except Taiwan never cheated and has been cleared multiple times. It's only salty white people who keep saying they cheated while simultaneously giving money to the Catholic church lmao.

  • @UNI934
    @UNI934 Před 2 lety +6

    Wow you made this topic!!! I am a big fan of this channel from Taiwan. Glad you make it super clear and objective.

  • @EF-fc4du
    @EF-fc4du Před 10 měsíci +2

    I remember measuring myself at 6.25" at age 12 and thought for sure I would be the next John Holmes. But it never really grew much beyond that. Still quite serviceable.

  • @JoyzBoyz147
    @JoyzBoyz147 Před 2 lety

    Love the videos, keep up the great work!

  • @OleSparky
    @OleSparky Před 9 měsíci +3

    Not banned for being too good, banned for violating child labor standards.

  • @johnkoziel789
    @johnkoziel789 Před 2 lety +6

    I went to Williamsport in 1990 to watch the tournament. And after watching Taiwan play, I said wait a minute I’ve seen this manager before. Little League rules forbids the use of a national coach, but here the same guy was coaching another “town’s” team. If I knew what was going on, how could those that run Little League not know what was going on?

    • @kaox44
      @kaox44 Před rokem +2

      ...no way, you didn't know all Asian rook-a-rike?

    • @Skank_and_Gutterboy
      @Skank_and_Gutterboy Před rokem

      Sounds like a little national bribery of LL officials.

  • @itsLiQui
    @itsLiQui Před rokem

    I’m only 1 minute and 30 seconds in and I already have to give you a like and comment. That first minute was one of the most amazing intros I’ve heard on CZcams

  • @jerrygomez3825
    @jerrygomez3825 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow this was educational. Thanks. I'm curious, did you use metroid music?

  • @brianbenoit6883
    @brianbenoit6883 Před 2 lety +3

    ahhhh....so baseball in Taiwan is like 'football' in Texas.

  • @1sfgmen
    @1sfgmen Před 2 lety +42

    All 17 little league championship titles that won by Republic of China/Chinese Taipei/Taiwan from 1969-1996 should all got revoked/stripped away

    • @robertperry8392
      @robertperry8392 Před 2 lety

      I agree 500%!

    • @helloman3676
      @helloman3676 Před 2 lety

      Boo hoo

    • @GFkilla17
      @GFkilla17 Před 2 lety +3

      @@robertperry8392 I agree 420.69%

    • @felipepineda1585
      @felipepineda1585 Před 2 lety +1

      Taiwan! Not China! What the hell are people not getting about that?

    • @fhb7088
      @fhb7088 Před 2 lety

      @@felipepineda1585 it’s literally our country’s name, the republic of China….

  • @fizzyfuzz5878
    @fizzyfuzz5878 Před 2 lety

    New subscriber, love this channel so far

  • @rpdooley_1
    @rpdooley_1 Před 2 lety

    Love your videos keep up the great work

  • @nicholaso4302
    @nicholaso4302 Před 2 lety +13

    This channel is one of the 2 I actually learn something I didn’t already know on

    • @yfAchoone
      @yfAchoone Před 2 lety +1

      Whats the other?

    • @nebraskajoenelson8987
      @nebraskajoenelson8987 Před 2 lety

      @@yfAchoone either nexpo....Jose....or history buffs lol

    • @yfAchoone
      @yfAchoone Před 2 lety

      Nebraska joe nelson, Oh okay. I was thinking either Foolish or SRS, hell maybe even iTalk Studios

    • @VeryGoodEggs12
      @VeryGoodEggs12 Před 2 lety

      @@yfAchoone probably Kurzesgazt or however you spell it

    • @daddyskaddy94
      @daddyskaddy94 Před 2 lety +1

      So you only watch 2 channels?

  • @auggieeast
    @auggieeast Před 2 lety +4

    The problem with that history is that it was apparent to everyone by the time this happened that Taiwan was never going to invade the mainland.

  • @ironchefa1
    @ironchefa1 Před rokem +2

    There Taiwanese boys we’re probably teenagers when their birth certificates were issued.

  • @drucexx
    @drucexx Před 2 lety +1

    great vid brother, who knew that little league baseball could be so corrupt? keep up the great work my friend.

  • @MaxPower-Gaming
    @MaxPower-Gaming Před 2 lety +55

    "They were forced to stop playing baseball all together" - You had a chance to say "...stop playing baseball FOR-EVVV-RRRR" and you didn't take it. Shame. SHAMMME!

  • @allaware5014
    @allaware5014 Před 2 lety +3

    "One 11 year old on the team was already married."
    Talk about speed running life..

  • @jimmyfitz8907
    @jimmyfitz8907 Před rokem +2

    Awesome story …how did I not know about this…new to the channel it’s great keep up the good work 👍

  • @MrEazyE357
    @MrEazyE357 Před 2 lety +1

    Just commenting for the algorithm. Thank you for all the amazing videos!

  • @hoponpop3330
    @hoponpop3330 Před rokem +3

    My son play LL all stars , the best players from the small town,
    that are selected for the LL tournament
    The rules were you could start practicing as a team until after July 1 a week before the tournament started with first District, State,
    and Regionals . It’s these regional champions that get invited to Williamsport
    I remember a team in their district posed for newspaper team picture prior to the allowed date and was disqualified.
    I suspected Taiwan , and some other foreign teams didn’t adhere to the local team rules to draw from a wider area
    Our town had about 15,000 so we had one league.
    An neighboring to with 50,000 usually had three good teams.
    But imagine if they combined in on team how dominate they could be.
    In Taiwan taking the best players on the island and practicing year round instead of a week or two and their dominance becomes understandable.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Před rokem

      I grew up in a pretty small town and out league usually had 4 teams, 5 at the max. Our town was maybe 10,000 people overall and I remember the local all star tournament we went to every year. Most of those teams were from areas with much larger populstions(20-30,000) so they obviously had much better teams. I have to believe that sone of these little league teams that make it to Williamsport often are from large districts or they are “rigging” their teams ..

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Před rokem

      But in terms of Taiwan, they literally took the best players from the entire nation so yeah it’s no wonder they put scored other teams by a crazy margin lol

  • @mliu1001
    @mliu1001 Před 2 lety +15

    As a Taiwanese American I just want to say that the kids from Taitung Red Leaves were all indigenous taiwanese ( that's why one was married) and most of them didn't have birth certificates in the first place. Some kids skipped school a lot and never passed elementary school grades, resulting in some kids being 14 and still in 4th grade. Most kids there didn't even go to school and stayed home helping the family. The Taitung Red Leaves were based in the mountainside and didn't have money so they didn't train with proper equipment. It wasn't until they dominated the country that the ROC government stepped in and began initiating the illegal and cheating stuff mentioned in the video. (After this time China tried to rule the world of sports like "creating" Yao Ming.) In 2000 the government changed and in 2002 they rejoined little league (as mentioned in the video). To this day, baseball is one of Taiwan's best sports.

    • @GrifterUno
      @GrifterUno Před rokem +1

      How can it be Taiwan's best sport?!! They've been cheating for DECADES, lmfao...

  • @sifdorzo
    @sifdorzo Před 2 lety +2

    Phenomenal video as always but that voice crack at the beginning of the video.

  • @ConnorJem
    @ConnorJem Před 2 lety +1

    “One of the 11 year olds on the team was already married…” and the music cutting out was so funny

  • @therealdoy99
    @therealdoy99 Před rokem +3

    The Chinese Taipei team came to our summer camp to play the counselors, many of whom were signficantly older than 12, and they were batting lefty a couple innings into the game they were dominating so much lol

  • @brucezhang8838
    @brucezhang8838 Před 2 lety +3

    fuzzy uploads every day and fills me in, giraffe neck mark tells us his opinions and puts on a show, italk gets cool stuff here and there, foolish baseball talks stats and makes me learn. but its really beisbol doesnt exist that creates the best content in terms of interesting and creativity. keep it up in this time while baseball does not exist. i love all baseball youtubers but bde is the best less go

  • @justmesantana
    @justmesantana Před 2 lety +1

    The quotation marks had me rolling once I realized the subject of the video 😂

  • @dkeditsbaseball2388
    @dkeditsbaseball2388 Před 2 lety

    great video! Love the channel

  • @conorrowe2781
    @conorrowe2781 Před 2 lety +3

    "and one eleven year old, was married" caught me off guard😭😭

  • @EclipseMints08
    @EclipseMints08 Před 2 lety +14

    Wish my MLB team had this dedication.

  • @vcesportmaster-2728
    @vcesportmaster-2728 Před 2 lety +1

    My respect ✊ for all the work you have done in your channel 💯

  • @LEV1ATHYN
    @LEV1ATHYN Před 2 lety +1

    Just incredible content. My favorite baseball content on YT.

  • @moleash6465
    @moleash6465 Před 2 lety +3

    I am from Taiwan. People need a hero and legend. As to the South Africa rugby world cup. Despite this, the island did build a baseball culture still lasting today

  • @HokiePitcher22
    @HokiePitcher22 Před rokem +3

    This is actually really fucking heartbreaking. America has plenty of their own stories of young athletes being overworked and pressured in extreme ways to succeed but nothing quite like this. These poor kids were merely puppets to the adults running the country for ridiculous political reasons. Terrible.

  • @AndThatsBaseball
    @AndThatsBaseball Před 2 lety +1

    Damn, I think this was your best video yet, what an interesting topic

  • @fuckboi_killa
    @fuckboi_killa Před 2 lety

    Don't stop uploading love all your stuff

  • @gobfather1782
    @gobfather1782 Před 2 lety +4

    Can we take a moment of silence for the two kids who lose their lives

  • @colinmatthew6195
    @colinmatthew6195 Před 2 lety +4

    Heard China, saw Taiwan, clicked and saw “China” and I understood instantly lol.

  • @AshtonHutchinson
    @AshtonHutchinson Před rokem +1

    I grew up and still live right next to Kirkland WA. That 1982 lil league world series win is still the pride of Kirkland.

  • @bryanjohnston9737
    @bryanjohnston9737 Před 2 lety

    Live this content , every time a video comes up I come running

  • @quattrobajeena135
    @quattrobajeena135 Před 2 lety +3

    I honestly could give 0 craps about baseball Your channel is incredibly awesome and l loved everything I’ve watched that you put out! Thanks for your hard work

  • @bnglyt
    @bnglyt Před 2 lety +5

    Anyone else remember when baseball did exist?

  • @TenderWhale
    @TenderWhale Před 2 lety

    Not the biggest baseball fan but I love your channel. Great videos!

  • @Hockeyboi232
    @Hockeyboi232 Před rokem +1

    I was listening to a podcast yesterday about sports washing and this is just like it

  • @jkatz1303
    @jkatz1303 Před 2 lety +44

    1. Absolutely insane I’ve never heard or read about this before, and I follow baseball religiously.
    2. This raises my suspicion on the Japan teams that make their way through Williamsport with ease. They’ve previously been outspoken of players attending what seem to be baseball schools/academies. Maybe similar situations? I could just be too baked right now but idk man

    • @RyzinEnagy
      @RyzinEnagy Před 2 lety +11

      Baseball academies aren't the problem. High level child athletes here do the same in all sports -- in fact it's almost a necessity these days. It's everything else they were doing wrong -- depriving them of education as early as elementary school, the illegal reshuffling of teams that effectively ensured the best starting 9 in the whole country was on the field, etc.

    • @afuzzycreature8387
      @afuzzycreature8387 Před 2 lety +6

      japans cheating is probably regionalized like when it happens in the US... then it would be down to cultural willingness to investigate corruption. Japan has a national high school tournament with very strict rules so there's nothing new about people trying to skirt the rules.

    • @EnjoySackLunch
      @EnjoySackLunch Před 2 lety +7

      @@afuzzycreature8387 ah, no BDE vid comment thread is complete without a cascading glob of racism

    • @EnjoySackLunch
      @EnjoySackLunch Před 2 lety +3

      @TJ it’s not up to me to illuminate you

    • @saraa5690
      @saraa5690 Před 2 lety +6

      @TJ I mean I feel like commenting about how one Asian country cheating probably means that another Asian country that's known to have a deep love for baseball must be cheating simply on the basis that they're both Asian countries is like, kind of suspect. that's just my onion

  • @empyrium1516
    @empyrium1516 Před 2 lety +6

    I lost it at "those communist ping-pong players," that is too perfect

  • @spencerdre1035
    @spencerdre1035 Před 2 lety

    love the content keep up the good work and love learning about new stuff about baseball :)

  • @TheTottieHimself
    @TheTottieHimself Před 2 lety +2

    I love how the music stops when he says “ married” 🤣🤣😂