When a teacher has given so much to his students and we see them with such admiration it can be easy to turn a blind eye to something which in any other circumstance we might promptly question. So at the risk of making myself unpopular I'll share my view and say that to my mind striking the student in that moment and in that way didn't seem necessary and I'm open to engaging in a discussion with anyone who wishes to do so. To actually look at what happened - Iyengar mentions that his intention (or desired outcome) is to help correct the mistake of the student. To put it another way we could say that it's to help the student to understand and grow in their practice. Is this a positive intention to meet the development need of the student? Yes, absolutely. But to ask a second question... could we find other ways to reach such an outcome? I think we could probably say that if we're to be open minded and creative there are many different ways which don't require a physical strike. Even in the role of the teacher we must still be willing to be a student ourself shouldn't we? I see others in the comments section have mentioned about Iyengar's wisdom and skill as a teacher - and with this I'm in full agreement. What he has given to the word has been a great gift and I am grateful for everything I've learned from my teacher who trained with him for a period of time. I also accept that it can be necessary, in the right moment to raise one's voice and speak directly to students making them question their understanding and/or behaviour. I've seen my teachers do so when the time is right and I with this I see no issue. Other comments seem to have focused on tradition, not questioning the teacher or "it's how it's done in India" etc. But to accept something simply because it's already there without looking to question and transform it for the better is at best a little lazy is it not? And if we take that reasoning we could also say "well it's how it was done in Germany in the 40's." and I think we can all see the danger in that. So let us not shy away from difficult discussion if they need to be had. Mr Iyengar was a great teacher and will continue to be so in my eyes. Unfortunately however I'm just not convinced that he had to strike anyone to achieve the same results, especially in this moment which is there for us all to see.
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I have to disagree. She needed to be struck. To not strike her would have been a worse abuse, or a form of neglect. Just kidding. I can't believe people justifying it.
40 years ago when I started, Yoga used to be about sacrifice, focus, and discipline. The yoga we do today is so westernized and departed from the origin of yoga. We’ve made it into a feel good movement. But from the perspective of the Yoga Sutras, written 500-3000 year BC, yoga is a tool for existing in a difficult hard cruel world. It’s was not made for hugs and good vibes. There’s also a basic misunderstanding in the comment section about Indian culture. We need to remember that India in the time of Iyengar and now is very very very different than the West. It is not our place to judge the way of life of an entire different country. That’s a massive fault westerners have. The woman he hits is his daughter Geeta Iyengar. And while we don’t find that acceptable in the Western world, Iyengar grew up with dirt floors in extreme poverty in early 1900 India. In his time, that was not only acceptable but praised. It’s unrealistic to expect him to have been different than his society because they didn’t think that was wrong. As with everything in life, so with Iyengar’s teachings, take what you like, leave what you don’t. Even the yoga sutras say to not make a guru a god. And Iyengar mentions Patanjali many times in this video. I can say having taught yoga for 20 years, owned 3 studios, and now teaching full time online. The students in this video have a much safer practice than the majority of the people I see today. Personally, I feel like we should bring back pantaloons 😂😂❤
But:) this is yoga convention in the USA, not in India. So rules "another country or culture" not relevant here. USA practitioners could not implement such behavior on their students, so Iyengar can do whatever he want. But his students - don't. So he is limiting them with his own examples. When you in Rome, do as the Romans do. So appropriate here would be teaching the way it possible on the US. That would be great example of fluid and sharped mind at the same time
Though it is understandable that some think he teaches in an arrogant manner, this is simply not the case... he severely dwells on the important (technical) details and temporarily seems to let go of being nice and meek but only for clarity´s sake. Its concentration. He easily could pretend to get buddy buddy with everyone but doesn´t waste time on these things. He WAS a humble being despite the way he speaks or acts while teaching.
Как раз моя тема сегодня. Насколько интересно начинаю замечать, то что у тебя в голове, что тебя сейчас особенно интересует, что тебе нужно ты увидишь и найдешь неожиданно
Just so you all know, a yogi has to practice non-violence. It’s is the foundation towards path of higher consciousness. Patañjali have talked about it in the very beginning, the Yama and niyama. Please avoid any form of ignorance.
Yes. However the psychological motive behind himsa (violence) is personal gain, fear and fulfillment of personal desire. This is what Krishna too says to Arjuna before he goes into war. If you fight without fear or to gain, then you are doing what’s necessary and its not violence. We all dont know how long that person has been studying yoga with Guruji and she also seems like she knows what shes getting into. When our parents or our teachers scold us or give us a strong smack sometimes, its not the most graceful way of explaining something, but its not always evil is what I feel. I am sure there will be many opinions about this. But If my teacher would have to use force to awaken my absent mindedness I wouldnt mind it. But thats me.
In all over india , we can not find a powerful , more passionate person , very deep technical knowledge , hard working person alike honourable Mr. B.k.s iyenkar. His creatures , efforts must too many generation infront all yoga lovers . All learners got an extraordinary opportunity to learn yoga from him. Thank you very much for uploading this wonderful video to see all new learners to his power .
25:40 No need to hit her. Only a loss of patience, irritation and frustration prompted him hitting her. Anyone peaceful and enveloped in complete calmness would not have seen this is the appropriate reaction. People are too biased with who he is to look at things objectively.
This wasn’t a loss of patience we observed… he very clearly set her up for that as a planned act of violence and humiliation. Methodical, intentional abuse is what is shown here. Complete with the immediate making of excuses and victim blaming afterwards. Watch the few moments before he hits her and see how he sets her up to “fail” so that he can “teach” (abuse) her. These are clear, abusive power dynamics at work, not a simply an impatient yogi.
The role of the Guru. Most Yogic teaching was shrouded in secrecy, & still is today. The only way to secure the teachings & understand them was to set at the feet of the guru. To do that one must learn from a traditional yoga guru. Iyengar was one of the best. This woman knew what his teaching was like. The Sanskrit word Guru means to take a student from the darkness into the light. The guru job was to remove the veil of ignorance; to open the student eyes 👀 to what is real, & to awaken the powers within him or her. Iyengar kept her from doing damage or from breaking her neck because of her lack of awareness. Iyengar transmitted shaktipat ( the blessing of psychospiritual energy that she needed) at the right time before she made the mistake and hurt herself. Yoga is not play, & America has changed the traditional Yoga into 💰 money Yoga .... Leaving behind the meaning of Guru for that means leaving yourself in the dark.
And what are u talking. Iyengar was just a Hatha Yog teacher. Shaktipaat is a very higher thing. Only sidha gurus can do that like Swami Rama, Yogananda, etc
shubham pant Read his books. He was not just a hatha yoga teacher. His belief was that the first step in attaining liberation was in mastering the body through asana and mastering the mind through pranayama. He brought me liberation.
great great, i weeped after seeing this video how the great yoga master of universal is teaching and me sometimes have heavy breathing and i can correct. thanks for this video.
BSK Iyengar is a master level teacher. The student put herself at risk, & in danger by having the blanket wrong. Most Americans do not understand his methods of teaching. I have studied from two of his students who lived in India. One is a California State University professor. They know that only a few get chosen to train at the Iyengar Yoga Ashram. The wait ✋ list was about 6 months. The students are very discipline ; headstands takes a lot of discipline too, & one screw up could be very costly to the human body. If she broke her neck because of doing something wrong then those complaining would of blamed BKS Iyengar in some kind of way. Learning Yoga in India; learning Yoga in America , or anywhere else is two different Yoga's .. That is until you learn Yoga from BKS Iyengar . Trust me that slap sound came more from the microphone. I seen Iyengar get a man attention in a pranayama seminar in India the same way he did his female student . Either way, i heard Indra Devi speak about how hard training under Krishnamacharya was. No different then his student BKS Iyengar. The woman was chosen to demostrate the head stand because their was a trust between Guru and Student. In India the teaching is different then America. Iyengar had a lot of adult women students, and none of them ever complained like those i witnessing on CZcams. In fact, his students that i trained with are highly intelligent ( attorneys, math and physic teachers) and their relationship was one of teacher and student. They loved Iyengar like a father. Again they never complained.
People can justify violence in any form or any way to put themselvea in a position where violence can be accepted. That way, when they engage in violent behaviors towards other people they can feel that is right. I came to the watch this video to keep on learning, and I learned other things aside Sirsasana. His hitting was done with anger and an energy of superiority. He didn't do it for love of his disciple, it was for love of his own ego. So dissapointed...
It was passed down to him from his teacher Ramakrishna. Ramakrishna was very harsh on students.... because of ego. Ego is strong thing and difficult to overcome when one encounters their own boundaries. Ego of Ramakrishna is evident when we learn about what he said about hatha yoga pradipika. Instead of accepting full text as his guru he said parts were false and not in the right spirit, were added by some one with ill intent. That was his ego screaming out against something too unusual and so his ego was never given up. Thus this error of unconquered ego kept being passed on to others. We are all capable of greater love, greater union, greater self realization than we witness in this video. Glad so many souls are seeing issues with some thing in the video - it means they are checking what they see against inner teacher , inner access to infinite creative divinity. It is like checking notes we hear against a tuning fork :)
@@TheOriginalEntz his teacher was Krishnamacharya not ramakrishna. Don't bullshit without knowing. Also you don't know nothing about him, you say is there in him, but you don't know a thing about ego.
Americans may never understand the appropriate use of physical corrections such as a strike. There are no rules in life. Time continues to show us what lasts and what no longer works. We can only use our best discernment to continue on our paths... I come from a strict background and would not be offended by such an action, but that is me, and another he may have scarred for life. Who knows. but i listen intensely to everything he says and does because he has a lifetime of practice and teaching practice. May we all do our best to bring more light on yoga
Agree with you. I grew up in India. Parents and Teachers in Indian culture were placed above God and they were always allowed to use strict means of instruction because they are passing on wisdom earned through ages and the entire learning environment required everybody to approach learning with a sense of devotion. i.e. it is bigger than any person and any one self or their comforts and opinions. From that perspective, striking or a teacher being strict was not seen as "abuse" but as being very focused and interested in the teaching. All this may be difficult to explain or express but it is a different culture and one which fortunately survived an age of pure Industrial and Material world.
I never studied under Iyengar, but some of my teachers did. Anybody attending these classes would have known what his teaching style was like, and getting a slap went with the territory. Also, I think the lady he slapped was actually one of the teachers! She would have known more than anybody what might happen.
@Lee Matthews. Happy for you that you did not study under this egotistical lunatic. He hit someone publicly and justified it saying it was for her benefit. Then he openly claims only he knows all the right poses nobody else. I am surprised the word Narcissism has not been associated with this man..This is daylight bullying.
@@sreethoz I am a yoga teacher. Iyengar didn't do anything if she already didn't alowe first. My school is in his yoga style. And we never touch anyone if it's not allowed to us. That's rule we always respect.
When he hit her it left me feeling physically sick in my stomach. I also felt humiliated on behalf of the lady he hit. The worst thing about it was that a portion of the class laughed. He deliberately humiliated her in front of the whole class, and the cameras. That was horrible to witness. I can't imagine how shaken the poor woman must have felt. Awful.
That is nothing compared to what the English did to the peaceful, non violent thousands of Indians protesting for the Independance of India, have a look in history and see what awful and humiliation really is!!
@roger ngauma. Why drag a whole race into this? You can't punish present generation for what previous generations did. What this man did here was wrong and completely out of place. Someone should have stood up to him. He looks like a bully.
@@rogerngauma3974 Oh please, what's that got to do with this video?! Do you mean to say this bully hurting that poor lady is in any way shape or form related to historic colonialism? Your comment is totally nonsensical lol lol!
I am like mangoose appeared at the end of yoga in mahabharatham who wanted to turn the other half of his body in torder gold.surprised at the behaviour of Mr Iyengar.how he lost temper.?without controlling "kroda" .....
@@quark31doesn't mean he has right to hit her, according to current laws he can go jail if she files a complaint doesn't matter if he is teacher or not. He is teacher should stay in his limits
No need to hit her. Only a loss of patience, irritation and frustration prompted him hitting her. Anyone peaceful and enveloped in complete calmness would not have seen this is the appropriate reaction. People are too biased with who he is to look at things objectively.
What has all this obsession with the one an only way to do a pose got to do with just being a kind loving caring human being. I found him to be extremely angry and arrogant. Of course i was told its all my projection. The most enlightened people and gurus I met in 10 years in India was the Chai wallas and Rickshaw wallas and very often the cooks in the many Ashrams i visited. Was blessed to meet many wise people but they never said they were anything special.
As Jois liked to say, yoga is 95% practice and 5% theory. It is about gaining "self-knowledge" (about the function of one's body and mind). Truth is, the original training, such as those gurus received themselves from their teacher Krishnamacharya, and as many of Jois' students recollect, was simply repeating the moves endlessly and obtaining some understanding in this process. No teacher can substitute this experimentation and internal knowledge. Insisting on everyone doing poses in the same way completely ignores things like differences in anatomy, flexibility, strength, and the current skill level of the practitioner. But there is market demand for "gurus" from the naive people, and so "gurus" are created and teach.
To hit someone to correct them instills fear, instead one should teach with compassion. I would like my students to come to me and ask me a 1000 times if they have any confusion... not intimate them and in the process, not be a teacher at all.... blessings to all the souls out there.
Be free enough to go and join your fellow bengali, a guy who made people sweat in the name of bikram yoga and also indulged in all kinds of sex scandals and sexual abuse of his students.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Seryogaji сегодня пробовал ширшасану с направлением стоп как Айенгар учил в видео и перенесением внимания на внешние стороны ног. Очень интересный опыт, действительно, асана на порядок становится устойчивее, даже слово "устойчивость" не подходит, перестаешь вообще координировать баланс, просто стоишь. Буду разбираться дальше.
@@EvasivePredicate да, привыкнуть наверное сложно, однако на этом пути столько открытий, что проблемы понимания хинглиша уходят на второй план, опыт тела можно передать не зная языка
Iyengar trained people are often obsessed with the "correct" way to do things, as this title implies though they only have one approach to the subject which must be qualified and used with careful delineation as to the aims of your practice, lest you go astray. Most real sadhus do not apply pressure at the top of the head as Iyengar commonly taught it. Many other instructions and approaches like this seen in traditional hatha are nowhere to be found in "Iyengar Yoga".
I've been certified in this system before, I'm well aware of how they function. Yes they can observe and explore but only within a somewhat rigid and highly anatomical/westernized model of the practice. The understanding of internal energetics and ability to surrender at the higher levels of practice is largely missing from this system.
Miru, I'm just stating facts here. No anger, but only frustration when people make judgemental comments like you instead of engaging on the subject further. If you don't have anything to add to the conversation, perhaps try something else.
Through out whole video their is lots of knowledge but unfortunately seeing comments most of the ppl are only worried about the hit.... In India it's common and we'll feel blessedto have such gurus because gurus who really want to teach their students will be worried so that they don't do mistake again which helps in progress, and ppl teach only for money will just teach and go without telling their mistakes or tell them for name sake....
several people seemed to think Guru ji is being abusive !! But Parents and Teachers in Indian culture were placed above God and they were always allowed to use strict means of instruction because they are passing on wisdom earned through ages and the entire learning environment required everybody to approach learning with a sense of devotion. i.e. it is bigger than any person and any one self or their comforts and opinions. From that perspective, striking or a teacher being strict was not seen as "abuse" but as being very focused and interested in the teaching. All this may be difficult to explain or express but it is a different culture and one which fortunately survived an age of pure Industrial and Material world.
So basically teachers in India have a massive ego...Nobody has the right to hit or abuse a person whoever he is..Anybody who thinks, has the right to do so is a hypocrite and if this is what your culture teaches, then you culture needs to change...rather than justifying this insane act !!
Narasimha Bhogavalli no se supone que uno de los primeros yamas es ahimsa? Entonces no entiendo actuar, se contradice con la no violencia que exige el yoga
John You have to understand things in perspective. If a teacher is regularly using physical force or being abusive, and if we defend it, Then we would be wrong. This man has taught 10s of 1000s of people over decades. This video is over 60 minutes long, how many strikes are you seeing ??
I don't know what's more difficult to understand, a teacher abusing students or people justifying it...And you just admitted that the this what your culture teaches...I'm sorry to say that it's just horrible...one time or a million times, abuse is abuse and that attitude needs to change !!
No way. It sa forbidden to do anything if you have pain. First go to the MD. Only when he alowes you to do this exercises you can do it. Yoga stops where medicine begins.
For little babies who are whining about his way of teaching, there is a reason why Iyengar yoga has spread so much across the world. This is how this Guru is. If someone gets offended by Guru’s way of teaching, then they are not eligible to be his Shishya. If someone thinks Iyengar is aggressive, then read about Maharishi Vishwamitra. Vedas say we should never ever see faults in father, mother and Guru.
Lot many remarks are there about arrogance. But note that due to old age the behaviour of the person changes. Students can attend the yoga classes or learn by viewing Ramdev Baba's CDs
May Gid bless the departed soul of this yogi ji but it's a matter of concern that this practice of HEADSTAND is absolutely wrong . The crown of the head is never touched on the ground . Practicing hours together in this way leads to lunatic asylum . Needs to be corrected . By the way its our main Asana to go in timelessness doing it hours together as I have demonstrated in number of my videos . OUT OF LOVE FIR THE HUMANITY AND THE HIGHLY ADVANCED PRACTIONERS OF YOGA STRIVING TO EXPERIENCE KEWALI KUMBHKA AND ULTIMATE 🔥,SAMADHI .
raq 01 FYI, we are celebrating his 101 birthday this year. Last year was his 100 centenary birth celebrations in Pune.. nearly 1800 people had come from different countries. there was a big workshop of 12 days and I was a part of that workshop where Mr. Iyengar’s daughter Geetaji and son Prashanth Ji took...
It seems there are a couple of comments on here that needed correction. Mr Iyengar died in 2014 (not 2013) and was 95 when he passed away. The reference to him being nearly 101 when he passed away might be mistaken for the age of his teacher (Krishnamacharya) who lived from 1888-1989 and was 100 when he died. 🙏🏼
@@Seryogaji короче по русски в тонусе держать предплечья . Все как то ругают Айенгара ,а в реальности мега интересно, только много иносказаний частично перекликается с отеопатией вам спасибо за видосы =)
@@user-wb6uf4hj4k да ругают те, кто тупо в лоб делают и травмируются. Йога это творческий подход к телу, изучение и все такое. А не механистично дубасить позу за позой
Only a true Guru can hit his disciple because he is so compassionate to help the disciple. In Guru-disciple tradition one has to drop his ego first and surrender to the Guru. Even in Zen tradition a Guru sometimes hit his disciple with stick so he or she could learn the true teaching. In this video Mr. Iyenger hit the girl it was just his compassion for her and she accepted the hit, that shows that she is a true disciple who has surrendered her Ego. Respect for both.🙏
I am sorry bullshit ! I have been practicing Hatha yoga etc since 1988 and I have danced professionally most styles and I teach yoga myself . you do not need this freaky way to address the students . And Iam telling you I have a power range for yoga and movement. The world can be tucky and yoga world too. Even more than Dance world which has more naturalized history than yoga teaching in the open world ! It is quite ridiculous Iyengat and he of course is a great man a yogi , one thing does not exclude the other.
@Prashant. Utter gibberish. Ego and self respect are two different things. There is a reason why they exist as two different words. He attacked her self respect. No disciple in the this day and age deserves to be treated like that. This is public humiliation and those who endure it and accept it are suffering from Stockholm syndrome.
No matter how much learned a person is on the yoga sutras, or how perfectly one can do a pose, but disrespecting another human being and justifying it is against the laws of yoga.. Hahaha.. Iyengar may be the best yoga guru, but not a self realised being, that is clearly evident from his compassionless action!! #Disrespect BKS Iyengar#
When Guru Ji (teacher) hit us in india (despite of our gender men or women) it is blessing for us. And 15 years down the line we feel blessed that time guru ji hit me now we are successful. Dont think so much sudo intelligent pal !!!
If not done correctly, you can break your neck or become unconscious by lot of blood entering your brain. It should be done systematically and dedicatedly.
People getting offended by a slap on the back need to search elsewhere for learning cause they are too attached to their ego and are unfit to learn from this particular guru, they should find a "guru" suited to their own perceptions.
Love and respect is to earned from such a master, In Indian culture, Teacher and God is in the same status, as it should be. Just know that everything done and said is for your good.
You are watching this video to learn head stand ,not to judge our yoga gurus , you don't have that much knowledge to judge our gurus ,if you have problem with his behavior then don't watch his videos
When a teacher has given so much to his students and we see them with such admiration it can be easy to turn a blind eye to something which in any other circumstance we might promptly question. So at the risk of making myself unpopular I'll share my view and say that to my mind striking the student in that moment and in that way didn't seem necessary and I'm open to engaging in a discussion with anyone who wishes to do so.
To actually look at what happened - Iyengar mentions that his intention (or desired outcome) is to help correct the mistake of the student. To put it another way we could say that it's to help the student to understand and grow in their practice. Is this a positive intention to meet the development need of the student? Yes, absolutely. But to ask a second question... could we find other ways to reach such an outcome? I think we could probably say that if we're to be open minded and creative there are many different ways which don't require a physical strike. Even in the role of the teacher we must still be willing to be a student ourself shouldn't we?
I see others in the comments section have mentioned about Iyengar's wisdom and skill as a teacher - and with this I'm in full agreement. What he has given to the word has been a great gift and I am grateful for everything I've learned from my teacher who trained with him for a period of time. I also accept that it can be necessary, in the right moment to raise one's voice and speak directly to students making them question their understanding and/or behaviour. I've seen my teachers do so when the time is right and I with this I see no issue.
Other comments seem to have focused on tradition, not questioning the teacher or "it's how it's done in India" etc. But to accept something simply because it's already there without looking to question and transform it for the better is at best a little lazy is it not? And if we take that reasoning we could also say "well it's how it was done in Germany in the 40's." and I think we can all see the danger in that.
So let us not shy away from difficult discussion if they need to be had. Mr Iyengar was a great teacher and will continue to be so in my eyes. Unfortunately however I'm just not convinced that he had to strike anyone to achieve the same results, especially in this moment which is there for us all to see.
I completely agree with you! Bit shocking.. lost my interest
Being Indian I agree with you
I agree
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I have to disagree. She needed to be struck. To not strike her would have been a worse abuse, or a form of neglect.
Just kidding. I can't believe people justifying it.
40 years ago when I started, Yoga used to be about sacrifice, focus, and discipline. The yoga we do today is so westernized and departed from the origin of yoga. We’ve made it into a feel good movement. But from the perspective of the Yoga Sutras, written 500-3000 year BC, yoga is a tool for existing in a difficult hard cruel world. It’s was not made for hugs and good vibes.
There’s also a basic misunderstanding in the comment section about Indian culture. We need to remember that India in the time of Iyengar and now is very very very different than the West. It is not our place to judge the way of life of an entire different country. That’s a massive fault westerners have.
The woman he hits is his daughter Geeta Iyengar. And while we don’t find that acceptable in the Western world, Iyengar grew up with dirt floors in extreme poverty in early 1900 India. In his time, that was not only acceptable but praised. It’s unrealistic to expect him to have been different than his society because they didn’t think that was wrong.
As with everything in life, so with Iyengar’s teachings, take what you like, leave what you don’t. Even the yoga sutras say to not make a guru a god. And Iyengar mentions Patanjali many times in this video.
I can say having taught yoga for 20 years, owned 3 studios, and now teaching full time online. The students in this video have a much safer practice than the majority of the people I see today.
Personally, I feel like we should bring back pantaloons 😂😂❤
But:) this is yoga convention in the USA, not in India. So rules "another country or culture" not relevant here. USA practitioners could not implement such behavior on their students, so Iyengar can do whatever he want. But his students - don't. So he is limiting them with his own examples.
When you in Rome, do as the Romans do. So appropriate here would be teaching the way it possible on the US. That would be great example of fluid and sharped mind at the same time
Wow. What an exolanation.I have this philosophy that one must focus on their own emotions and sensations rather than judging others
Subscribing youtube and insta.
Спасибо за перевод
🙏🙏🙏what a Great teaching of Guruji...No Comparison...
India Is a Land of GREAT TEACHERS. Salute to you sir.
Thank you so much for the video :)
Thanks a ton, for uploading these fabulous videos. A real treasure.
Guruji you are best
LivING you bks
Yoga's very good to do it makes you feel good and relaxed
he is crazy and incredibly talented. i heard that on his 80th or 90th birthday he matched his age with the same number of backbends standing up
Though it is understandable that some think he teaches in an arrogant manner, this is simply not the case... he severely dwells on the important (technical) details and temporarily seems to let go of being nice and meek but only for clarity´s sake. Its concentration. He easily could pretend to get buddy buddy with everyone but doesn´t waste time on these things. He WAS a humble being despite the way he speaks or acts while teaching.
Humble. But he constantly says, "I'm the only one that knows this."
@@firstlastqaz Yes... like so many others. But thats another thing. I never trusted any Guru btw...
Как раз моя тема сегодня. Насколько интересно начинаю замечать, то что у тебя в голове, что тебя сейчас особенно интересует, что тебе нужно ты увидишь и найдешь неожиданно
Like a kung fu teacher, I love this instructor!
Just so you all know, a yogi has to practice non-violence. It’s is the foundation towards path of higher consciousness. Patañjali have talked about it in the very beginning, the Yama and niyama. Please avoid any form of ignorance.
Yes. However the psychological motive behind himsa (violence) is personal gain, fear and fulfillment of personal desire. This is what Krishna too says to Arjuna before he goes into war. If you fight without fear or to gain, then you are doing what’s necessary and its not violence. We all dont know how long that person has been studying yoga with Guruji and she also seems like she knows what shes getting into. When our parents or our teachers scold us or give us a strong smack sometimes, its not the most graceful way of explaining something, but its not always evil is what I feel. I am sure there will be many opinions about this. But If my teacher would have to use force to awaken my absent mindedness I wouldnt mind it. But thats me.
I luv to c him on youtube i saw his video 30years back
In all over india , we can not find a powerful , more passionate person , very deep technical knowledge , hard working person alike honourable Mr. B.k.s iyenkar. His creatures , efforts must too many generation infront all yoga lovers . All learners got an extraordinary opportunity to learn yoga from him. Thank you very much for uploading this wonderful video to see all new learners to his power .
He doesnt own creatures..
@@jandom9008 I guess he ment creativity but actually he adopted tigress in a zoo 🐅
- Or a bigger bully and abuser you mean.
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No need to hit her. Only a loss of patience, irritation and frustration prompted him hitting her. Anyone peaceful and enveloped in complete calmness would not have seen this is the appropriate reaction. People are too biased with who he is to look at things objectively.
This wasn’t a loss of patience we observed… he very clearly set her up for that as a planned act of violence and humiliation. Methodical, intentional abuse is what is shown here. Complete with the immediate making of excuses and victim blaming afterwards. Watch the few moments before he hits her and see how he sets her up to “fail” so that he can “teach” (abuse) her. These are clear, abusive power dynamics at work, not a simply an impatient yogi.
Unbelievable, all of them are able to do Shirshasan😱
Bholenath...this is a teacher's class ..he teaches only advanced teachers who are already at a considerable level in their practice...
Not at all. It is just workshops for practitioners 3+ years practice. Anyone , actually, as I know could attend that event
@@Seryogaji thanks ..
May GOD bless his departed soul . All the reverence for the yogi but it's really important to correct this practice of the KING ASANA .
Te amo ! Obrigada por TANTO !
tenemos una fanatica
The role of the Guru. Most Yogic teaching was shrouded in secrecy, & still is today. The only way to secure the teachings & understand them was to set at the feet of the guru. To do that one must learn from a traditional yoga guru. Iyengar was one of the best.
This woman knew what his teaching was like. The Sanskrit word Guru means to take a student from the darkness into the light. The guru job was to remove the veil of ignorance; to open the student eyes 👀 to what is real, & to awaken the powers within him or her. Iyengar kept her from doing damage or from breaking her neck because of her lack of awareness. Iyengar transmitted shaktipat ( the blessing of psychospiritual energy that she needed) at the right time before she made the mistake and hurt herself. Yoga is not play, & America has changed the traditional Yoga into 💰 money Yoga .... Leaving behind the meaning of Guru for that means leaving yourself in the dark.
Shirshasana is not for everyone. It could be dangerous.
And what are u talking. Iyengar was just a Hatha Yog teacher. Shaktipaat is a very higher thing. Only sidha gurus can do that like Swami Rama, Yogananda, etc
shubham pant Read his books. He was not just a hatha yoga teacher. His belief was that the first step in attaining liberation was in mastering the body through asana and mastering the mind through pranayama. He brought me liberation.
great great, i weeped after seeing this video how the great yoga master of universal is teaching and me sometimes have heavy breathing and i can correct. thanks for this video.
Let the culture meet each other and Knowledge flow from one part to another. Extract the best, each civilization has got for us. Namaste 💐💐
Thanks so much 🥰🥰
True Scientist !
great compassion and attention to detail. thanks for sharing.
It's very nice
He is a genius in yoga to dominate the body in knowing each reaction of the body
The Sarge who transforms newly enlisted punks into focused powerful soldiers will never coddle them.
Esse vídeo só serviu para mostrar à todos como essa moça é superior à esse senhor...
he got to the point about fear...... honestly he is like a gift that keeps on giving. I am filled with gratitude and thanks
You are deluded.
Hai what a perfection
BSK Iyengar is a master level teacher. The student put herself at risk, & in danger by having the blanket wrong. Most Americans do not understand his methods of teaching. I have studied from two of his students who lived in India. One is a California State University professor. They know that only a few get chosen to train at the Iyengar Yoga Ashram. The wait ✋ list was about 6 months. The students are very discipline ; headstands takes a lot of discipline too, & one screw up could be very costly to the human body. If she broke her neck because of doing something wrong then those complaining would of blamed BKS Iyengar in some kind of way. Learning Yoga in India; learning Yoga in America , or anywhere else is two different Yoga's .. That is until you learn Yoga from BKS Iyengar . Trust me that slap sound came more from the microphone. I seen Iyengar get a man attention in a pranayama seminar in India the same way he did his female student . Either way, i heard Indra Devi speak about how hard training under Krishnamacharya was. No different then his student BKS Iyengar. The woman was chosen to demostrate the head stand because their was a trust between Guru and Student. In India the teaching is different then America. Iyengar had a lot of adult women students, and none of them ever complained like those i witnessing on CZcams. In fact, his students that i trained with are highly intelligent ( attorneys, math and physic teachers) and their relationship was one of teacher and student. They loved Iyengar like a father. Again they never complained.
People can justify violence in any form or any way to put themselvea in a position where violence can be accepted. That way, when they engage in violent behaviors towards other people they can feel that is right. I came to the watch this video to keep on learning, and I learned other things aside Sirsasana. His hitting was done with anger and an energy of superiority. He didn't do it for love of his disciple, it was for love of his own ego. So dissapointed...
It was passed down to him from his teacher Ramakrishna. Ramakrishna was very harsh on students.... because of ego. Ego is strong thing and difficult to overcome when one encounters their own boundaries. Ego of Ramakrishna is evident when we learn about what he said about hatha yoga pradipika. Instead of accepting full text as his guru he said parts were false and not in the right spirit, were added by some one with ill intent. That was his ego screaming out against something too unusual and so his ego was never given up. Thus this error of unconquered ego kept being passed on to others. We are all capable of greater love, greater union, greater self realization than we witness in this video. Glad so many souls are seeing issues with some thing in the video - it means they are checking what they see against inner teacher , inner access to infinite creative divinity. It is like checking notes we hear against a tuning fork :)
@@TheOriginalEntz his teacher was Krishnamacharya not ramakrishna. Don't bullshit without knowing. Also you don't know nothing about him, you say is there in him, but you don't know a thing about ego.
Americans may never understand the appropriate use of physical corrections such as a strike. There are no rules in life. Time continues to show us what lasts and what no longer works. We can only use our best discernment to continue on our paths... I come from a strict background and would not be offended by such an action, but that is me, and another he may have scarred for life. Who knows. but i listen intensely to everything he says and does because he has a lifetime of practice and teaching practice. May we all do our best to bring more light on yoga
Agree with you. I grew up in India. Parents and Teachers in Indian culture were placed above God and they were always allowed to use strict means of instruction because they are passing on wisdom earned through ages and the entire learning environment required everybody to approach learning with a sense of devotion. i.e. it is bigger than any person and any one self or their comforts and opinions. From that perspective, striking or a teacher being strict was not seen as "abuse" but as being very focused and interested in the teaching.
All this may be difficult to explain or express but it is a different culture and one which fortunately survived an age of pure Industrial and Material world.
great comment!
Good video
I am still learning to think with intelligence. What a great man
Thanks
I never studied under Iyengar, but some of my teachers did. Anybody attending these classes would have known what his teaching style was like, and getting a slap went with the territory. Also, I think the lady he slapped was actually one of the teachers! She would have known more than anybody what might happen.
@Lee Matthews. Happy for you that you did not study under this egotistical lunatic. He hit someone publicly and justified it saying it was for her benefit. Then he openly claims only he knows all the right poses nobody else. I am surprised the word Narcissism has not been associated with this man..This is daylight bullying.
'cos that makes abuse totally fine...
@@sreethoz she was ok. She is a yoga teacher.
@@elenavrzdak7892 Human with emotions and self respect first. Yoga can come later. Please read up on andragogy
@@sreethoz I am a yoga teacher. Iyengar didn't do anything if she already didn't alowe first. My school is in his yoga style. And we never touch anyone if it's not allowed to us. That's rule we always respect.
Incredible
He is Jewel of India .Vandemataram .
When he hit her it left me feeling physically sick in my stomach. I also felt humiliated on behalf of the lady he hit. The worst thing about it was that a portion of the class laughed. He deliberately humiliated her in front of the whole class, and the cameras.
That was horrible to witness. I can't imagine how shaken the poor woman must have felt. Awful.
Hence his nickname: Bang, Kick, Slap
That is nothing compared to what the English did to the peaceful, non violent thousands of Indians protesting for the Independance of India, have a look in history and see what awful and humiliation really is!!
@roger ngauma. Why drag a whole race into this? You can't punish present generation for what previous generations did. What this man did here was wrong and completely out of place. Someone should have stood up to him. He looks like a bully.
@@rogerngauma3974 Oh please, what's that got to do with this video?! Do you mean to say this bully hurting that poor lady is in any way shape or form related to historic colonialism? Your comment is totally nonsensical lol lol!
Please. This slap was the sweetest, most kind thing anyone may have ever done for her in her life. I hope she felt greatful.
Just kiddng.
You must be a show man then magic happens even if you don't have nothing.
The sutra he quotes about the essence of asana... before he says "it's not sthira sukham asanam...I'm sorry to say" he mentions that...
Ohhhh 😥 I miss his voice!
Tough teacher. Means business.
Where is compassion and loving teaching here!? My gosh!
Sir, this is a completely compassionate loving guru...please don't mistake a guru with a teacher..these are two different entities
I am like mangoose appeared at the end of yoga in mahabharatham who wanted to turn the other half of his body in torder gold.surprised at the behaviour of Mr Iyengar.how he lost temper.?without controlling "kroda" .....
we have given so much to Europe & America. now it is their turn to give India. it will be true gurudakshina.
Iyengar strikes hard on a female student (2005). Time cue 25:40.
And how do you know it was hard?
She was absentminded. What do you expect? She was not paying attention despite being told twice! Count for yourself.
@@quark31doesn't mean he has right to hit her, according to current laws he can go jail if she files a complaint doesn't matter if he is teacher or not. He is teacher should stay in his limits
No need to hit her. Only a loss of patience, irritation and frustration prompted him hitting her. Anyone peaceful and enveloped in complete calmness would not have seen this is the appropriate reaction. People are too biased with who he is to look at things objectively.
Some people laughing ... When he stroke...
does this cure ocd ?
This works i tried
Hitting the woman?
ஆகா அற்புதம் சூப்பர் குருஜி
What has all this obsession with the one an only way to do a pose got to do with just being a kind loving caring human being. I found him to be extremely angry and arrogant. Of course i was told its all my projection. The most enlightened people and gurus I met in 10 years in India was the Chai wallas and Rickshaw wallas and very often the cooks in the many Ashrams i visited. Was blessed to meet many wise people but they never said they were anything special.
John Protopapas ..... True
As Jois liked to say, yoga is 95% practice and 5% theory. It is about gaining "self-knowledge" (about the function of one's body and mind). Truth is, the original training, such as those gurus received themselves from their teacher Krishnamacharya, and as many of Jois' students recollect, was simply repeating the moves endlessly and obtaining some understanding in this process. No teacher can substitute this experimentation and internal knowledge. Insisting on everyone doing poses in the same way completely ignores things like differences in anatomy, flexibility, strength, and the current skill level of the practitioner. But there is market demand for "gurus" from the naive people, and so "gurus" are created and teach.
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To hit someone to correct them instills fear, instead one should teach with compassion. I would like my students to come to me and ask me a 1000 times if they have any confusion... not intimate them and in the process, not be a teacher at all.... blessings to all the souls out there.
You said it right sister👍
Be free enough to go and join your fellow bengali, a guy who made people sweat in the name of bikram yoga and also indulged in all kinds of sex scandals and sexual abuse of his students.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
she should be afraid of doing the wrong thing in regards to this posture. She could disable herself by making mistakes in this posture ...
Ohh I can see Lois Steinberg...I recognised her by her voice at the beginning of the video. At 13:08 she is clearly visible in blue shirt.
Who is the woman doing the headstand?
Не знаю, каким он там великим мастером был, но я еле продрался через его пояснения, и то не уверен, что все верно понял.
Нужно быть в системе, чтобы понять . Кое что очень неочевидно .
@@Seryogaji сегодня пробовал ширшасану с направлением стоп как Айенгар учил в видео и перенесением внимания на внешние стороны ног. Очень интересный опыт, действительно, асана на порядок становится устойчивее, даже слово "устойчивость" не подходит, перестаешь вообще координировать баланс, просто стоишь. Буду разбираться дальше.
@@EvasivePredicate да, привыкнуть наверное сложно, однако на этом пути столько открытий, что проблемы понимания хинглиша уходят на второй план, опыт тела можно передать не зная языка
Iyengar trained people are often obsessed with the "correct" way to do things, as this title implies though they only have one approach to the subject which must be qualified and used with careful delineation as to the aims of your practice, lest you go astray. Most real sadhus do not apply pressure at the top of the head as Iyengar commonly taught it. Many other instructions and approaches like this seen in traditional hatha are nowhere to be found in "Iyengar Yoga".
+TheDarshanProject Iyengar teaches to observe and explore, not only some determined eay of doing asanas.
I've been certified in this system before, I'm well aware of how they function. Yes they can observe and explore but only within a somewhat rigid and highly anatomical/westernized model of the practice. The understanding of internal energetics and ability to surrender at the higher levels of practice is largely missing from this system.
He was "certified", don't you get it? :)
Lots of anger and frustration.
Miru, I'm just stating facts here. No anger, but only frustration when people make judgemental comments like you instead of engaging on the subject further. If you don't have anything to add to the conversation, perhaps try something else.
q.e.d. :)
In India teachers hit more than this..
Marri title found in Balochistan.
That's known as assault.
Some one who keeps referencing yogasutra patanjali and does not follow the precept of ahimsa is not to be followed in any matter.
The hitting is very Asian style!
geniouse.
But now his is not alive so who can teach all those things .😢
Through out whole video their is lots of knowledge but unfortunately seeing comments most of the ppl are only worried about the hit.... In India it's common and we'll feel blessedto have such gurus because gurus who really want to teach their students will be worried so that they don't do mistake again which helps in progress, and ppl teach only for money will just teach and go without telling their mistakes or tell them for name sake....
BULLSHITS
He gave her a chiropractic adjustment. 😢😢
I do not think heating is a solution . It seems he has a temper.
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several people seemed to think Guru ji is being abusive !! But Parents and Teachers in Indian culture were placed above God and they were always allowed to use strict means of instruction because they are passing on wisdom earned through ages and the entire learning environment required everybody to approach learning with a sense of devotion. i.e. it is bigger than any person and any one self or their comforts and opinions. From that perspective, striking or a teacher being strict was not seen as "abuse" but as being very focused and interested in the teaching.
All this may be difficult to explain or express but it is a different culture and one which fortunately survived an age of pure Industrial and Material world.
So basically teachers in India have a massive ego...Nobody has the right to hit or abuse a person whoever he is..Anybody who thinks, has the right to do so is a hypocrite and if this is what your culture teaches, then you culture needs to change...rather than justifying this insane act !!
Narasimha Bhogavalli no se supone que uno de los primeros yamas es ahimsa? Entonces no entiendo actuar, se contradice con la no violencia que exige el yoga
John You have to understand things in perspective. If a teacher is regularly using physical force or being abusive, and if we defend it, Then we would be wrong.
This man has taught 10s of 1000s of people over decades. This video is over 60 minutes long, how many strikes are you seeing ??
I don't know what's more difficult to understand, a teacher abusing students or people justifying it...And you just admitted that the this what your culture teaches...I'm sorry to say that it's just horrible...one time or a million times, abuse is abuse and that attitude needs to change !!
John You are misunderstanding my words and drawing the conclusion that you like.
Please go right ahead.
Can I do this if I have pain in my neck
No.. first make sure your Neck is in normal condition,than only you should start
No way. It sa forbidden to do anything if you have pain. First go to the MD. Only when he alowes you to do this exercises you can do it. Yoga stops where medicine begins.
What year is this from???
2005
How much time maximum shirshasana can be done??
Book record is of 3 hrs maximum ; but for beginners more than 12 min can be dengerous :
If you are completely master or yogaruha then no limit
@@avalokiteshwara Thank you!
For little babies who are whining about his way of teaching, there is a reason why Iyengar yoga has spread so much across the world. This is how this Guru is. If someone gets offended by Guru’s way of teaching, then they are not eligible to be his Shishya. If someone thinks Iyengar is aggressive, then read about Maharishi Vishwamitra. Vedas say we should never ever see faults in father, mother and Guru.
I practice BKS Yoga and the hit at minute 26 is horrible
Is that the yoga teacher joh schumacher in 6:18?
+J San Antonio Yes;)
Sergey Doroshenko his yoga studio is nearby my old address. Thx for answering my question.
Por que no son tradición en Espsño! ?
@26:00 Eastern teaching is even more harsher. So take it easy, it's meant to teach you.
Es difícil aceptar una enseñanza así, para mi es maltrato y querer generar miedo. Me sentí decepcionada, sentí la rabia con la que la golpeó
Que pedagogía más absurda. Con esa violencia no sirve de nada. No. Puede tolerarse tal grado de violencia
Hmm.
Lot many remarks are there about arrogance. But note that due to old age the behaviour of the person changes. Students can attend the yoga classes or learn by viewing Ramdev Baba's CDs
May Gid bless the departed soul of this yogi ji but it's a matter of concern that this practice of HEADSTAND is absolutely wrong . The crown of the head is never touched on the ground . Practicing hours together in this way leads to lunatic asylum . Needs to be corrected . By the way its our main Asana to go in timelessness doing it hours together as I have demonstrated in number of my videos . OUT OF LOVE FIR THE HUMANITY AND THE HIGHLY ADVANCED PRACTIONERS OF YOGA STRIVING TO EXPERIENCE KEWALI KUMBHKA AND ULTIMATE 🔥,SAMADHI .
shirshasana is not for everybody
perhaps for people who are obese or are lacking in arms or had a recent car accident it is not for them ... otherwise....
@@TheOriginalEntz haha
I did it at the first time 😊
How about ahimsa??
How old is mr iyenger?
He passed away at his age 94 - 2013.
Oh really, sorry for my wrong information. Thats really amazing and respectful.💖💖💖
raq 01 FYI, we are celebrating his 101 birthday this year. Last year was his 100 centenary birth celebrations in Pune.. nearly 1800 people had come from different countries. there was a big workshop of 12 days and I was a part of that workshop where Mr. Iyengar’s daughter Geetaji and son Prashanth Ji took...
NightCrawller we celebrated his 101 birthday this year.. he was aged 95 years old when he passed way..
It seems there are a couple of comments on here that needed correction. Mr Iyengar died in 2014 (not 2013) and was 95 when he passed away.
The reference to him being nearly 101 when he passed away might be mistaken for the age of his teacher (Krishnamacharya) who lived from 1888-1989 and was 100 when he died.
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Yoga should be non violence. Can't believe everybody stays. No one defending the woman being hit.
Wish she'd just got up and walked out. And everyone giggling and simpering at his jokes - truly painful to watch
как оплетать кожей предплечья
Для начала поймите метафору. И потом действие прийдёт. Мышцы же на руках не параллельны друг другу и кости, а реально оплетают кость
@@Seryogaji короче по русски в тонусе держать предплечья . Все как то ругают Айенгара ,а в реальности мега интересно, только много иносказаний частично перекликается с отеопатией вам спасибо за видосы =)
@@user-wb6uf4hj4k да ругают те, кто тупо в лоб делают и травмируются. Йога это творческий подход к телу, изучение и все такое. А не механистично дубасить позу за позой
This seems too advanced
LOL no there are more advanced poses than this..
but WHAT is patela??
Knee cap
Rodilla.
Patela is patiala
Knee cap. It's what he'll slam you on if you do the wrong thing.
Only a true Guru can hit his disciple because he is so compassionate to help the disciple. In Guru-disciple tradition one has to drop his ego first and surrender to the Guru. Even in Zen tradition a Guru sometimes hit his disciple with stick so he or she could learn the true teaching.
In this video Mr. Iyenger hit the girl it was just his compassion for her and she accepted the hit, that shows that she is a true disciple who has surrendered her Ego. Respect for both.🙏
A true guru?!
I think he's a nice guy but hitting that student was uneccessary to make his point. It was somewhat violent. in my opinion
I am sorry bullshit ! I have been practicing Hatha yoga etc since 1988 and I have danced professionally most styles and I teach yoga myself . you do not need this freaky way to address the students . And Iam telling you I have a power range for yoga and movement. The world can be tucky and yoga world too. Even more than Dance world which has more naturalized history than yoga teaching in the open world ! It is quite ridiculous Iyengat and he of course is a great man a yogi , one thing does not exclude the other.
@Prashant. Utter gibberish. Ego and self respect are two different things. There is a reason why they exist as two different words. He attacked her self respect. No disciple in the this day and age deserves to be treated like that. This is public humiliation and those who endure it and accept it are suffering from Stockholm syndrome.
Stop with hero worship of people who can't regulate their own emotions. This guy may be a star in Asanas, but he's nowhere near a noble guru.
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No need to hit someone in order to teach! No matter what culture or age!
Hare krsna
not yoga but yaga
I don’t understand these cues…roof of the nose?! Sounds like gibberish
No matter how much learned a person is on the yoga sutras, or how perfectly one can do a pose, but disrespecting another human being and justifying it is against the laws of yoga.. Hahaha.. Iyengar may be the best yoga guru, but not a self realised being, that is clearly evident from his compassionless action!!
#Disrespect BKS Iyengar#
Just lost utmost respect for this guy when he hit the woman ...
When Guru Ji (teacher) hit us in india (despite of our gender men or women) it is blessing for us. And 15 years down the line we feel blessed that time guru ji hit me now we are successful. Dont think so much sudo intelligent pal !!!
what risk involves in sirshasa
If not done correctly, you can break your neck or become unconscious by lot of blood entering your brain. It should be done systematically and dedicatedly.
People getting offended by a slap on the back need to search elsewhere for learning cause they are too attached to their ego and are unfit to learn from this particular guru, they should find a "guru" suited to their own perceptions.
There is no excuse for this type of impolite behavior. Be kind be gentle and teach them with love and respect.
Lol hum Its not impolite behavior. Its a blessing & love.
Love and respect is to earned from such a master, In Indian culture, Teacher and God is in the same status, as it should be. Just know that everything done and said is for your good.
You are watching this video to learn head stand ,not to judge our yoga gurus , you don't have that much knowledge to judge our gurus ,if you have problem with his behavior then don't watch his videos