The Problem With Bruno Fernandes
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Bruno Fernandes has been Manchester United's key creative player for the past three years, but is he good enough for Erik ten Hag to spend the money and effort to build the team around him?
Jon Mackenzie explores Bruno Fernandes' strengths and weaknesses.
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1. show stats of bruno putting up similar numbers to kdb and odegaard
2. conclude that united need to replace him with a kdb or an odegaard
3. ?????
4. profit
this
@@jawtiks618 siht
KDB has better numbers and Odegaard is younger. He meant either replace Bruno with someone better or someone just as good but younger
Ten hag is more concerned with how you produce. Not what you produce. When you understand that you will see why Ten hag won't favour him once he completes his side.
Tifo videos are usually well written but this one seemed more like a clickbait from the title itself and although it did raise a good few points again seemed overtly harsh on Bruno. Stats also didn't seem to match the analysis
Odegaard has been an elite midfielder THIS season but emphasis is on this season. Bruno has been sufficiently consistent in his performance across multiple seasons. So, using Odegaard as a yardstick to criticize Bruno is a bit harsh in my opinion.
@@kon497
No it isn't đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł you are just reaching for the whinger with his dingaling tickling your throat. Gross.
More funny rather than harsh, after KDB's prolific consistent years, Bruno was the one nos 10 that took the league by storm, instant impact, consistently one of the top prolific attacking midfielders, yes his numbers will drop in ten Hag system because he is being coached in a more well rounded role than the pure executioner he was under Solskjaer.
In Jason Sancho we have a player that can be used to replace Bruno. He is an elite dribbler of the ball and I am sure his passing can be trained and improved on
@@kon497 thatâs what we call, conscious bias.
Bruno's G/A has been declining since his first season, while Odegaard has been getting better. Bruno's in his first full season (2020/21): 30 G/A in 37 games, in 2021/22: 16 G/A in 36 games and this season 9 G/A in 21 games
The problem with Bruno is that we have to play him every minute because we don't have a suitable backup. He's incredible at what he does, and his fitness levels are commendable. He has his flaws like all players, but that's why we have Casemiro. You can't have a midfield with all players maxing out all stats like a FIFA cheat mode. Eriksen, casemiro and Bruno are a more than capable midfield for the next 2 seasons, so long as united stock up with capable fresh young talent to come through, challenge them and eventually replace them
I'm sorry but longterm we can't play Eriksen in the pivot
He's a hologram defensively
@@anirudhmenon9099 I hope you know you're talking about a player
1) not at the peak of his powers physically
2) who nearly died
3) is by default an attacking midfielder
@@mumindanmallam okay?
That contributes to my point
He shud play AM not in a pivot
@@mumindanmallam yeah idk why u said all that your just proving his point. Stating the truth and blaming Erikson are two different things
Donny is injured, or else he has done wonders for Ten Hag
The low defending intensity doesn't really match the eye test. He is our most pressing player and is always running when out of possession
Yes I agree with that. I'm not sure how that metric is calculated.
Also ten hag said he's been putting him out on the right wing specifically for his pressing
My thoughts exactly. He also often directs the press, other players take their cues off him to push forward
defending is not only about running, it's about smart running. Sounds familiar? Cover-shadow, zone-shielding (in German terms). Wanna feel the art of defending? Prime Roberto Firmino bullying teams with double pivot, Sergio Busquets, Fernandinho, Jorginho, Fabinho, the single pivot's art of positioning and timing, and we must remember Busquets rarely runs like an engine. Running only counts for 10%, Mctominay runs better than Bruno, but why he sucks at being a pivot? Space awareness is the key.
Perhaps he's defensively active, but not so effective because of suboptimal positioning. This is how this metric is described in an Athletic article: "This shows how often the player is the most relevant defender when his side are out of possession. The higher the number, the more it shows the player to be actively applying pressure and making defensive actions as implied by smarterscoutâs algorithms. Maguireâs 56 out of 99 rating here is interesting, as it shows that he does often engage with the opponent but can also position himself well to âmark the spaceâ and avoid getting caught out by getting too tight to his man."
You don't need to build a team around bruno, look how easily he slotted in and hit the ground running when he was first bought, unlike other midfielders like pogba
yeah he much more suited to playing on the counter... a blocked defense he useless... too soft on the ball in tight spaces.
Just because he slotted into a midfield that DESPERATELY lacked what he brought doesn't mean he's a player who easily fits into any midfield.
Ummm under ole he built the entire system catering to Bruno
Played 2 holding midfielders ( mcfred) to give him freedom
Pogba was forced to play out of position
@@anirudhmenon9099 on paper pogba had all it took to be a deeper line play maker. Maybe if he was playing under ten hag he would be playing much better
@@ahmaudmuirhead4686 yea I think along with casemiro he wud be very good but we expected him to perform with mctominay and a finished matic behind him which is unreasonable
Usually like tifo but disagreed with a lot of this. United aren't trying to build the team around Bruno, and the point seemed to be that he's similar statistically to kdb and odegaard, but we need to replace him with a player like them? I also think a lot of the stats particularly the pie chart doesn't line up with the eye test. Just my opinion as United fan
Made me laugh when they said we have to build around him. He literally slots seamlessly into any midfield. He played with mcfred for most of his man u career
Yeah this is clickbait nonsense. Bruno is a top player who has been forcibly run into the ground due to a lack of backup.
Because Odegaard and KDB can dribble and be more patient and help control games and are also better defensively.
@@isaiahbright7546 In the end Bruno does perform the same if not better numbers so why should we go for a replacement? He already is among the top midfielders in the world. There's no replacement to that.
This is clickbait
First Casemiro, now Bruno Fernandes. Jon really, really dislikes Man Utd's midfield... I'm looking forward to the next public apology.
Did he ever criticize Casemiro while he was at Man Utd ? If he did, that's just insane....
@@genjishimada6303 said Case doesn't improve ManUtd's midfield
@@AllardWolff Lol I wonder what he was smoking. He's delusional đ€Ł Do you have the video + timestamp ?
Do you have the video in which he said something wrong about Casemiro? Sounds wild.
@@duynguyen-ek7dr it was in one of the recent podcasts. Probably 2-3 podcasts ago.
The problem Iâve always had with Bruno Fernandes is heâs brilliant at football. Go again, Tifo.
Brilliant at football yet has so much deficiencies which Tifo showed using facts over your baseless analysis. Just gonna put it here; Sporting won the title after he left so they really missed his brilliance didnât they đ
These STUPID people's problem is that BRUNO BROKE FRANK LAMPARDS RECORD HAVING THE BEST SEASON BY A MIDFIELDER EVER IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE. And they can't handle it. It's really sad if you think about it.
@@tarekahmed992 weâre supposed to believe someone who just compared De Jong to Bruno? Take a seat
Can Bruno hit an accurate 5 yard pass ? He isn't playing for any team in that EPL top 10 ... He's ball retention is horrible for a midfielder , but let United fans to tell you he is class , the new Cantona đ United fans are hype merchants for real ...Every player they have is the next big shot including Fred "Ronaldinho", Mc Tommy"Roy Keane" , Rashford "CR7",Martial "Thierry Henry"
@@temitayoprecious2692 One point negates all of Brunoâs deficiencies? Wow you bunch are clueless, then again knew that from the amount of Ole-sexuals we had
I think the pressing weakness doesn't really track when you put it to the eye test. He does press well and pretty constantly. Also Ten Hag commented that when he puts Bruno on the right, it's because of his pressing intensity and ability.
Otherwise, entertaining video though, not denying Bruno doesn't have his flaws because he does. Just don't feel like this is one of them
Couldn't have said it any better.
i think different since i play football quite some time. The best pressing players are often placed central, not wide. This involves one variety of human intelligence, space awareness. Unlike the wide areas where you have the touch line and you only have to scan a 180-degree view, you have to do so in a 360 degree environment, you have to know exactly how to run, how to position yourself, not only to man-mark, but also cut passing lanes to other players via cover-shadow through curve run. The player out wide only needs to make use of his fitness to quickly run and squeeze the space around the ball holder. They only have to use the cover-shadow when they want to block the flanks, force the ball back and/or longball. The reality is the opposite of your thoughts
@@quangtrungbui675 I am literally just saying what ten hag said, argue with him not me lmao
Don't conflate running around pressing effectively.
Anyone can run around. It's how you run around that actually determines if you're an effective presser of the ball. Pressing isn't just running at someone. It's knowing when to run, when to stay. Which channels to cover or which man to mark. There are a lot of moving parts.
Bruno runs around like a chicken with his head cut off. Yes, he runs, but he doesn't actually press that effectively.
Spot on, agreed
Comparing a deep lying ball progressing midfielder (de Jong) with a transitional number 10 is not a balanced ground for comparison, this is poor. Saying buying players that compliment a player that's already there is a problem is poor, every great team from years past had players with defined roles that where different from each other and complemented each other it does not mean you are building a team around anyone. Bruno is not in that team solely of his creativity but of his work ethic and leadership skills
LEADERSHIP!?!?!? BRUNO FERNANDES!?!?!?
I cannot take this comment section seriously đ€Ą
@@alexsmith6322 Have you even seen the man play? He's perma shouting and backing his teammates
Good point. Would love to see how successful de Jong will be in premier league. Does he even have comparable numbers from ajax and barca? No surprise if Jon compares Messi and Pique in his next video đ
@@alexsmith6322 You don't know what you're talking about
Leadership skills đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł That 7-0 match prove that he's an absolute crybaby.
I've seen enough of Bruno to know that he is easily good enough to adapt to whatever Ten Hag wants him to do.
What if he wants a ball carrier in midfield? Can Bruno do that?
Then he gets someone next to Bruno to do that. That's why we were in for de Jong.
I highly doubt replacing Bruno is a priority for United.
@@supachazman89 He is a creative midfielder but I would say most aspects of his game are good enough to be a decent ball carrier in midefield. I don't think its the best way to use him tough. As @Johnathan Reich said, that's why we need someone next to him. Interested to see how a Casemiro, Sabitzer, Bruno midfield play together after a few games. Need a worldclass player in the position of Sabitzer/Eriksen. They are both good. But I think there's better out there.
Bruno is not the kind of player that adapts. For him to play his best football he needs to be set free.
@@1903JPG Bruno has already adapted this season though. His ball retention has improved this season and his time on the ball before making a pass has been more calculated. IMO Bruno has certainly adapted well to the way EtH wants to play.
hand picking. bruno isnt a problem. The reason we have Eriksen is cause he holds onto the ball. Sam reason he wanted DeJong cause of his progression
Eriksen is played as a CDM. Unless a team concedes possession to us which allows Eriksen to cheat higher up the field, he contributes very little to Bruno's success. He supports him from behind, but they're not a horizontally even line pushing forward together, especially not when a team is actually pressing us and controlling possession well.
@@th3doorMatt : Erikson has never played CDM
Eriksen is not good defensively, that is the peoblem
@@rileyanderson8010 ummmmmm...he literally gets lined up that way every match. the only thing that determines how high up the pitch he gets is how much possession United is allowed to have. But his role and expectation is to be a second DM alongside Casemiro. Dunno what to tell you.
@@knuckle8136 yep. yet he's played as such with more emphasis on Casemiro to cover for him.
Eriksen isn't allowed to play as high as Bruno to add more width in the midfield to create balance, but he also can't contribute as much defensively.
Honestly, I wouldn't be against swapping Bruno for Eriksen. That being said, then you have to ask, well then who fills in for Eriksen? Sabitzer currently. But it doesn't look like Eriksen will be back until almost the end of the season, so...that's all out the window anyway.
Not sure I see the connection between a number ten essentially and controlling the game. The six is usually the one dictating tempo whilst the ten creates
When all is said and done Bruno does so much for the team. 69 G+A in 108 PL appearances is a great return. Ozil is sat on 91 in 184 PL appearances, under 0.5 goal contributions per game. That shows the benchmark set for creative midfielders, and Bruno does infinitely more in defensive transition that Ozil ever did.
For managers like Ten hag and pep production is not everything. It is how you produce.
Also Bruno takes penalties which much be about 25 of those G with how many United get
@@karmaascendant3936 Facts.
@@karmaascendant3936 so what pens ain't easy
@@karmaascendant3936 14 of his goals in the PL were penalties. That still puts him ahead of Ozil and above the 0.5 npGA per game.
It's also worth noting that Ozil only ever took two penalties for Arsenal, and he missed both of them. Make of that what you will.
Think you've overstated this one. Having midfielders that complement Fernandes's strengths and weaknesses isnt really building a team around him so much as just building a team. Almost no player is literally flawless, i would argue none in fact, every player needs players around them that complements them, thats was a team sport is.
Bruno is a great player, elite in fact, but the negative aspects of his game will be holding back this ten hag system quite especially in a few years time when he will be aiming to win the title
@@yuppp5885 Unless he keeps improving too. He's not going to become a dribby boi but his ball retention has improved a lot in just 6 months.
â@@rishirajbose2444 How's that going for us now?
@@randperson7692 Exactly as I said? He's statistically the exact same player he was last season despite playing with a much worse midfield. The problem in our midfield rn is not Bruno Fernandes, I can't believe I have to say this
You can't talk about the eye test when talking about his lack of ball carrying [which he's ALWAYS had] but ignore it for press intensity. The man is one of our best pressers.
And I think it's absolutely ridiculous to say Odegaard is as good as Bruno Fernandes never mind better after just one season of elite production.
Who has been better Odegaard or Bruno fernandes this season then? (Rhetorical question) so why canât you say Odegaard is been better than Bruno đ also yes Bruno is very good at pressing and off the ball but so is odegaard, he leads the press for arsenal and he tracks ball to nick the ball (which he did often against Bruno two weeks ago)
The debate isn't "this season" nor did I insinuate it was anywhere. I specifically said that you can't say that Odegaard is better than Bruno because he's had ONE elite season whilst Bruno has been doing this ever since he joined from Sporting -- where he broke European records there too.
@@glenrobinson10 Bruno is not good at pressing.He just runs around like a headless chicken that does not mean he is good at pressing.
â@@samarthchohan106agree with this. He has no positional sense and just runs around with no intelligence.
First of all Frenkie and Bruno play different positions... Frenkie acts as a connector between defense and attack...
If Bruno is one of United's problems, then they must be absolutely amazing
We are, we've been winning despite him. That's the benefit of finally having a system
This hammers home a question I've posed to Tifo before.
Why does Bruno Fernandes not get credited enough like other similar "AM" like De Bruyne, etc.
Bruno has consistently put up both G/As since (before) he joined United but most people just don't rate him at being at that "elite" level.
He's not a dribbly-boi and he's not the one you build the team around. He's the one to make the final pass and that's dependent on if his strikers are in form.
Yes, his consistency has dropped as he's been ever present for United and naturally fitness comes into play and he's also been playing out of position at times this season.
Doesn't mean he's poor or not as good as some of the players you just compared him to.
C'mon Tifo, Kevin is better. But not Odegaard.
In part, it's his lack of versatility. His style of play also just isn't as well suited to the more 'meta' tactics of elite teams.
He's also very much a high risk high reward player, whereas more elite players are able to offer the same reward with much less risk.
I think some people also overestimate his ability when they mostly just look at it from a goal involvement perspective. A large percentage of the goals that Bruno has scored have been pens (14/41 in the Prem - which is over a third), which really inflates his numbers.
Because he's a cheating rat.
How sensitive are you? They used data to literally prove oodegard is having a better season right now. Nobody in the video said âoodegard is a better player than Brunoâ you just inferred that because you are super sensitive about your favorite player
He plays at least 60 games a season
3 games a week, If he doesn't pass out on the pitch that's good enough
He's the best captain we've had since Rooney
And his pace and dribbling is way better when he has the legs
Fitness is the most important factor that isn't considered here
He playes so much basically every minute I donât expect him to be in the form he was in he first few seasons. Heâs consistent
You just said: âhe isnât as good as he used to be. Heâs consistentâ
You know that consistent means, being the same amount of good for a really long period right???
Seriously, how can you type that out
First few seasons? It was just gist great season.
Consistently garbage without penalties
Bruno is absolutely amazing
He's awful to watch
Great output levels nonetheless
@@anirudhmenon9099 I'd say he's brilliant but has to keep up these numbers for the rest of the season and beyond
Amazingly bad
@@fabiancalderon6729 nah, you don't know ball
Usually agree with most analysis by Tifo. Goat channel. But I think you guys got this wrong. He is pivotal in terms of what united does and yes there are lot of things he does which frustrates us. But like you rightly mentioned, the pros and cons to his game, pros outweigh the cons. And I have enjoyed watching him this season more than any other, since he plays less Hollywood passes, and more realistic but yet creative ones. I think
ETH will improve his game even more and we havenât seen the ceiling or peak of his game.
The lack of a Bruno is one of the issues with this current Chelsea team.
Just because brunos pizza chart isn't a colourful as frenkie, doesn't mean he's not the better player. Bruno has by far been the more productive player and the main man in the team compared to frenkie in both of their careers
lol
Frenzied is a way better player than Bruno. Better in tight spaces, press resistance, progressive passer can beat a press through carrying the ball, which is rare, rarely loses the ball and doesn't know why productive is their when this is not Frenkie's game. Also is good overall passer
They are completely different players you can't compare them
@Saqib You're right but even so Frenkie is clealr6 a better player than Bruno and doesn't need numbers to prove that
I guess we'll soon see them battle đ
The thing with data and stats is that you need a co relation point, for example de jong and gravenberch carrying the ball, both play deeper than bruno and to be fair are better in terms of dribling, but the different positions so cant really compare that aspect, also not sure how the defensive pressure is calculated coz if any one who watches utd play every week will tell he covers every inch of the pitch defensively, his tackling and recoveries are also great, may be press from the front not being successfuly may be the factor, but utd dont really press with high intensity that much,
The pressing stats fooled you there. Bruno is the best presser in the team
Where is âthe problem with Mason Mountâ or âthe problem with Mo Salahâ⊠you know, the top 6 teams having awful seasons
You have to keep in mind he has play every 3.5 days with no obvious backup at moment so you has conserve his energy
Bruno's weakness in ball progression can be covered up by having a deeper central midfielder that can dictate tempo and carry the ball, like FDJ. Eriksen as creative as he is, isn't much of a carrier.
We don't need to cover for his weaknesses. we are Manchester United we can just buy better players
@@camelio10 đ€ŠđŸââïž
Bruno is absolutely amazing there's no problem with him.
Yep such a big problem, only the 103 goal contributions in 159 games for Manchester United, massive problem indeed.
30 of them are penalties
Talk about nitpicking. The eye test clearly shows bruno is very important to how the team press and is always around whenever the ball is won in the final third and he tracks back a lot and his intensity is never a question. He isn't built physically like de bruyne so that can let him down but isn't a significant weakness as the video claims to be. Just because he doesn't excel at any stats doesn't mean he is an issue considering the pressing and defensive stats don't match the eye test and have lied this time around. Also odegaard has been amazing just this season before that he was fine so naive to use him as an example.
Similar concerns like in the video were raised before the season started but bruno did fine and now he's even getting better. The stats are misleading and useless in specific areas. He has played the most minutes for united for an outfield player so that shows ten hag doesn't have a problem with him. If he did he would dropped him sometime but he has never done that and bruno always plays the full 90min whether united are winning or losing.
I think he is back in form again since the world cup.. but he still needs to control his passes.. sometimes instead of waiting for one or two seconds before picking the pass.. he goes for it the moment he gets the ball.. which gives away the ball too many times.. but when those passes work, they are absolute worldies..
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There is no problem with Bruno Fernandes.
Heâs been integral to how United have improved this season.
And his assists and goals tally since he arrived in England are indisputable.
You are a commercialized fan. Thats why you dont see the problem. You watch the entire game following the ball and only remember good plays
@@spsenator Reducing football down to just statistics all the time completely sucks the enjoyment out of watching the game.
Bruno is one of the most exciting and brilliant players to watch. Even when he misplaces passes trying to create something. No player is perfect in every game they play.
Also to suggest other players would categorically do a better job than Bruno currently is just pure speculation.
@@slewdawg i wasnt even talking about stats. Stats are very misleading. Infact, stats would lead you to think Harry Maguire is A world Class defender! And the stats actually has Bruno as one of the Best world class midfielder when the truth is..he is not that great! He is a good player and he works hard but alot of the fundamentals and details in the game his quality is poor and inconsistent. We get away with it for the most part against the lower mid table teams but against the better sides it makes the difference..the first goal that leeds scored was due to him, ..and several others this season where he gave the ball away in key areas..and its not mistakes by him, its just poor quality but then you fans dont see the bigger picture that leads to a goal or when he makes a great assist , its all forgotten
@@spsenator only smart person here. He is a volume/overload player, he is below excellent.
@@afallenworld1581 your mental capabilities are below average
yeah doesnt matter that he plays well works hard and the team is winning if it doesnt show up in statistics
Man said his pizza chart matched the eye test đ€Ł
yeah doesnt matter if a players are numbers are terrible, what's really important is your feelings
The man has a pertinent bias against United, trust
@@MattMajcan what bruno numbers are terrible?
@@MattMajcan he has the second best creative numbers in the league after de bruyne in his position.
Maybe give your head a wobble and actually watch him play instead if listening to tifo pseudo-intellectual and faulty statistical analysis
this comment section "my feelings are more accurate than your statistics"
Surely covering Bruno's weaknesses with other players doesn't mean tailoring the midfield specifically FOR Bruno. De Jong in the Ajax midfield wasn't covering Schone's weaknesses, they just offered different things and worked in combination?
Bring De Jong into this midfield does the same, you bring him in because he makes the team more rounded.
Wow what a provocative title!
I'm so happy with the way Bruno has started to find his best form since Ronaldo is gone and Ten Haag has constructed a system.
GGMU!
He said De Jong and Odegaard are better then B. Fernades đđđ
Ădegaard is better and 4 years younger
@@sunlitboddha5909 one good season doesn't mean he's better
@@saqib7965 We'll see, Martin will only grow from now on.
@@saqib7965 false, Odegaard has been class ever since he was Real Madrid Castilla player. Was disappointed when we let him go, but truth be told, his playing style doesn't suit us.
@@saqib7965 Bruno had one bad season does that mean he's bad?
Tito and Tifo IRL are proving that Man United are the biggest club in the country by miles. So much content on Man United because it gets the most engagement.
And they hate it hahahhaha
Fattest maybe
You're clearly seeing what you'd like to see.
Soft agree, though the fact that in a year they went from a laughing stock to champions league contenders is itself, an impressive transformation. I'd rather look at how Man U has improved, than another video about Liverpools downturn.
True lots of gloryhunters đ but there is not glory any more is not it đđđđđ Yanited
The point about the team ceiling being only so high as Bruno's ceiling is really poor. You're implying Bruno will limit United but for some reason aren't highlighting enough how, in terms of creative passing, only De Bruyne is better. Therefore, Bruno is world class. If United's ceiling is tied to Bruno's then they should be winning trophies very soon, because AS YOU SAID, the manager knows how to cover for weaknesses. He's also shown he's incredibly consistent, meaning he's reliable. He's a set piece taker, of all kinds. Reliable penalty taker. Captain to the team. Amazing chemistry and link up with players in the team like Rashford. He gels perfectly with the team.
Ridiculous video designed to get clicks.
Was going to say the same thing: De Bruyne and Odegaard: How many as good as that? Fernandez is probably near the top somewhere so who else can ManU get for a creative player?
The problem with only looking at metrics: Bruno Fernandes brought a lot of fight to United. He brought belief and spirit. Something portuguese all garra... 'claw'!!
Man could not find concrete problems with Bruno.
This team is being built around Rashford. Even by the metric you used, Bruno is often on the left. Ten Hag prefers Luke Shaw and Martial in his starting lineup to connect with Rashford. So if you have Martial, Shaw and Bruno in the team, Rashford excels due to the relationships. It is also important to note the area we have the ball the most and the area we start our play, It is in the 6 with Eriksen/Casemiro in his absence. That is the position that is key to controlling games for United.
Bruh how is this team built around rashford when he ainât even starting a lot of the time. This comment section truly outed United fans đ€Ą
@@alexsmith6322 what in the hell you're talking about. Rashford has played the most minutes behind De Gea and Bruno. If anything it has outed you as someone who has never watched a Man Utd game.
Such a non-issue issue
"Tesco's finest Ten Hag"đ
Definitely one of Tifo's more "hot takes" so to speak. đBut that applies mainly to the conclusion arrived at and not the points leading upto it. (Though, im not sure how someone can rank 85th percentile for tackles+interceptions and yet rank mid 20s for defensive impact. He also leads most presses. DI Seems to be skewed towards blocks for some reason)
He does make sense and it's something we all know is pretty true, Bruno isn't the best dribbler or the most technical creator, and he has a tendency to kinda play Fifa-style where it's all 2 touch pass chaos. And it does get little annoying sometimes coz of the sheer volume lol, but its a double edged sword and I'll take it for a 0.5 xNPxG + xA player. And yes he's a sore loser but he's also an elite example of gamesmanship, he wins these small mental battles throughout the match. And when everything clicks there's this main man aura about him where he just becomes a complete player in all departments. And he plays with a passion that would faze academy grads.
You could say it doesn't really make sense for a very "traditional" Dutch manager to play with someone like that in the system. But ETH has shown that he has no rigidity about him and is very agile in his thoughts and an excellent man-manager. He play this semi-out of possession football and we can just switch to possession if we need to which is perfect for Bruno, Eriksen and Casimiro coz they've all played with teams that have been happy playing with less of the ball if need be (Spurs, Madrid) There's no real compromise being made here Bruno fits right in. And I'm sure ETH doesn't have any plans to switch to a fully possession based system with United it's just not something the fans would want to see. I feel like he's building a team where everyone feels like they are the center of the team, Luka Shaw is living a whole main character life at LB. I don't think Bruno is going anywhere for now he'll just adapt to whatever ETH wants him to do. And even if we do need to replace Eriksen due to age I don't see why Bruno would need to step down.
Having a midfielder whose better at passing and a midfielder whose better as carrying is normal, no? TIFO needed to do more work to show other teams aren't like this
A year on, I'm rewatching this and the problems haven't been addressed yet
AMAZING KNOWLEDGE TIFO. THE EYE TEST CONFIRMS THAT BRUNO IS NOT AN ELITE #10.
The era of Utd "building around a single player" is done. Tried it with Pogba and Ronaldo and all it's done is make the team too one dimensional, predictable and disrupts the team chemistry. Improving all positional areas through managing and coaching is now the new norm. We need players that understand ETHs philosophy in order to succeed from here on in.
Interesting, I'm not so sure about pressing, my issue when we had him and Pogba though was our inability to retain the ball cos they both frequently took risks meaning a lot of lost possession, hence a lot of defending which you don't want either doing. Eriksen has aided in solving the retention problem although he's still a defensive liability vs teams that keep the ball better.
My current issue with Bruno is he's not that flexible tactically, he can't drop deeper to turn a 4231 to a 433 (giving cover) and he's significantly less effective out wide, he might work as a false 9 but generally I don't like the unwillingness to sub him off when he's not what we need in the moment even though I sort of understand it given the options we have. It's more a case of RELEVANT depth in midfield
last 2 games ETH just smashed you in the face, bruno on the right wing is an absolute monster.
@@CthulhuCartoons It's a new development so whatever, I can only comment to a level of certainty based on what I've seen and previously he was not effective out wide
The problem with him is his face every time a decision doesn't go his way. There, just saved you a video
100% agree. He is / has a right knobhead.
Agree on that đ€Ł he's a whiner but that comes from his competitiveness
did you never watch roy keane play? such a stupid argument
@@theportugueselegend nah. He's mostly just a whiner. As many yellow cards as Debruyne in his 8 year epl seasons. A lot of them for whining to the refs
Thought provoking video, which is what Tifo always deliver. Not sure I agree with a lot of this though - Brunoâs pressing can be erratic (similar to Alexis Sanchez - key catching in moments but lacks consistency) but on the whole he presses well. Heâs not a ball carrying player, but heâs surrounded by them - the video doesnât mention he has Sancho/Rashford/Garnacho/Martial/Anthony surrounding him. Valid point on whether heâs the player to build around, but taken from too narrow a focus
Even as a neutral, this was a poor analysis, the takeaway was especially lazy, saying a player like Odegaard is the type of player that Manchester United need to raise their ceiling when Bruno has been putting up impressive numbers during his entire Premier league career whilst generally only being outdone by De bruyne, who has always been playing in a much better and settled team compared to Bruno is unfair especially when you consider that Odegaard has only outdone Bruno this half season alone. Statistically this is considered a poor season by Bruno but he still ranks third in the premier league among other 10s. Your conclusion also makes no sense, its also worth considering if De bruyne and Odegaard would put up similar metrics as Bruno whilst playing under Ole & Ralf Rangnick and the teams they had as well. Look how they perform in their national teams compared to Bruno.
It wasnt lazy. Replace Odegaard with Bruno and we would be a different team because Odegaard is press resistant, faster and smarter and is a much better ball retainer.
@@zinedinezidane4771 Check last seasons stats and see who between them gets dispossesed more then, like i said, lazy.
Bruno is a free player. To survive under Ten Hag he would need to accept a much more restricted role.
That simply isn't in Bruno's nature.
There is a minimum receiving area point that required him to function properly I think that is his flaw too. So he always need a eriksen or a world class cdm like Casemiro that can do what Eriksen does to provide passes that slice through defences and to perform the defensive duties. Odegaard is absolutely disgustingly good so I think a comparison might be unfair. Bruno is a key contributor while Odegaard is a Game Changer.
I agree with this! His biggest weakness is pressing. He hasn't done it with the pressing system under the indicator by Ten Hag. He is just trying to run around to recover the ball. That's not a good press act that we can actually see the eye test. And sure, his controlling ball technique is so bad that makes him always use the risky pass or try to pass the ball quickly. In my opinion, the risky pass has never been high-risk, high-return. It just wastes the chance and gives the ball to his teammates so superficially.
Bruno certainly has deficiencies to his game, but his creative outputs for the team more than make up for them. The comparison with Odegaard in particular is unfair as the latter has only been outstanding this season. That said, I do think it would be wise to bring in an understudy for that No.10 position.
You are right itâs so unfair to compare two players who are playing in the same league in the same season. How absolutely unfair and unreasonable
Edit and donât forget they play in the same position too. That makes the comparison even more unfair and outlandish!!! Disgraceful
@@alexsmith6322 Yep, I said my piece. Bruno has been consistently good for four seasons whereas Odegaard still has plenty to prove about his class. Make your case, mate, instead of relying on sarcasm.
I think it is as much as factual but also seemingly under appreciative of bruno's role in that team.
Bruno makes different things that ordegaard and KDB don't do just like they also do things he cannot do. I don't remember Scholes as an elite dribbles nor was pirlo nor xavi. I stand to be corrected on this if I am wrong. But we all cannot deny their ability to move the ball, find spaces, and unlock defenses.
KDB has a great passing range and a wicked weep from that half space into the box and I don't think anyone can match that. Ozil also had his magnificent touch and vision and choice of pass that was unique to him, makefile had exceptional ball winning ability while busquets' ball control leading press resistance is so unique and great to watch.
Point is, all these elite midfielders are masters in certain craft and not in another area. This didn't limit the ceiling of the team because of the lacking of a certain skill set!
The reason as to why ten hag builds and believes in a squad is because he knows there isn't a jack of all trades who is perfect at all of them and hence different games need different ways to win them as it's shown again by ten hag having to adjust against certain opponents. I want to think he doesn't believe in the notion of building a team around a player but in building a squad able to compete.
With this in mind, I don't see bruno as a problem but rather as an asset and a unique one at that. Him trying the crazy risky passes is just a craft he seems to be good at because his volumes of chances created is bewildering. If he is able to favorably compete in terms of assists yet they are coming from high risk, how about when man utd get to a point of having clearer chances, what would happen!
I will sum up by saying, bruno is a great guy who gives the team creativity, workrate, he defends and presses quite well. His short fall in carrying the ball and dribbles is like an advantage where he more often releases the ball early enough to get the team on the front foot before the opponents get into proper defensive positions hence man utd being successful in Ole 's reign of counter attacks. Even with low blocks, his passing range and game reading is incredible as show with AWB assist in the burnley game.
Bruno's weaknesses seem known to him hence moving on the ball quickly enough and I believe he compensates it very well.
He is a great asset to have and not a problem now or in the foreseeable future for me.
So if you watched Scholes, you should know Bruno is not good enough for sure
The problem with what you have said is these players were world class in other aspects which made up for their deficiencies and the main thing that stands out and separates them is their footballing IQ.
I really don't understand why tifo dislike united.they're comparing bruno to KDB & Odegaard saying he has less quality, I can understand it with KDB because it's frickin KDB, but odegaard only had one ok season, and one great half season and they say he's a better player
There's so many bad takes in this video. Bruno is not a worse player than De Jong. Completely different, but the same calibre. Bruno is class, and I won't stand for this slander. Bruno is never a problem. Bruno is our leader and offensive backbone.
This video was just terrible. I'm now convinced Jon's anti-Man Utd bias is creeping into his work. The Casemiro comment the other day was ridiculous
What was the case comment?
I was enjoying the video until you said the team is being built around Bruno even though you said earlier he played a big part under several managers so I think its obvious thats not the case. Some of those stats are being calculated really under represent how hard working Bruno and the idea of the replacing with Bruno with De Bruyne or Odegaard level player to increase the ceiling when the stats you compared are for 1 season is a bit odd, they're all in or about the same.
This video is a prime example of blindly looking at data w/o looking at the big picture - UTD has played as a counterattacking side for what, at least 3 years straight now? Fernandes perfectly fits that system bc of his ability to make a quick incisive pass. There's no indication that he can or cannot play a different way bc he hasn't been asked to do it (ie., UTD don't try to play like City).
The title should be
The problem with Jon McKenzie
ofc tifo comes out with a passive aggressive Bruno video and its presented by Mackenzie, ofc
As Utd fans, I will quickly admit that these are the two problems with Bruno: lack of physical presence in the middle, and lots of Hollywood passes, as in the case of the Leeds game. As such, he is highly effective in a counter-attacking team, but less so in a game that plays possession football.
However, he is also our best player in the post-Fergie era. And who would be the realistic targets to replace him when our midfield was so bad by the end of last season?
I agree with you 90%, cause he's not our best player post Fergie era. He losses the ball too much.
@@idowutajudeen452 De Gea would be the other candidate. Others donât even come close.
Not good enough for the possession game you want to play as he is not press resistance, not good in tight spaces, ineffective passer, not calm and composed, not good between the lines, no flair, poor dribbler and doesn't have a good shot on him either
Our best player is clearly Casemiro and soon Rashford will have a shout.
To be a better team, we have to transition to a possession based team, so we need a Griezman/Felix type. He's simply too reckless to play in high possession sides
@@camelio10 This season, yes. But if you are talking about the overall performance since 2013, Bruno for sure.
I think the reason why heâs defensive stats have dropped slightly is because that has been less demand for him to perform in that manner because of entrances of the likes of Casemiro a world class defensive midfielder.
I argue against the point that Fernandez defines the ceiling if ManU builds the team around him.
That would be saying that he would continue to be their very best player after transfers and there is no guarantee that he would be.
Another way to say that, what if the ceiling of the other players defines the team, and Fernandez just add to that puzzle.
John clearly hates Casemiro and Bruno đ
Man United and portuguese speakers*
He hates united in general
No idea how anyone could actually watch united with their eyes and conclude there's a problem with bruno fernandes this season lmao..
I normally like Tifo but this is just pseudo intellectual bullshit, spreading hot takes about a popular club with handpicked stats to support it for views.
When he said that heâs not elite in any department đđ
Making a video about one of Man United's best players being a problem - John woke up and chose violence today.
Two things stand out. First, the current season stats include a very bad match while C. Ronaldo was here. Bruno was half the player he usually is while Ronaldo was playing. Second, Bruno is more of a second striker/ creator type of player, something that ETH never had, so comparing him there with others from Ajax is wrong. Elite level managers adapt, they don't just try to replicate the same thing like in FM. Bruno does the exceptional very often in both scoring and creating and so any system will acomodate for that. Very poor from TIFO I'm afraid.
Bruno has been pressing of late. IDK who these numbers are calculated
The very fact that he thrived under different managers shows that the team is not built around him and its him that has adjusted to different play styles but yes when you put a title like that you get views no matter whether it makes sense or not so well done Tifo.
Our midfield when fit is one of the best in the league. I think he will improve as he's adjusting like everyone else to the tactics that are trying to be implemented.
Bruno is a moments player. He can annoy you for 80 minutes and conjure magic in a minute that defines the game. That alone is what all Manchester United is about. Itâs not about comparing him to other clubâs ball progressing players. Bruno is made for Manchester United and already a cult hero.
What trophies has he won with manU to be a cult hero? Zero
Level up the standards and get rid of the brunos
Maybe they win things again
After his comments about Casemero Jon has gone after Bruno lol. I wonder which Manchester United player will be his next victim.
Tifo is Goated for this video..They basically said Bruno is holding Manchester United in a very polite way.and itâs true
Bruno is literally the only player close to de bruyne in terms of player profile.
Morgan Gibbs-White has outstanding numbers in a team thatâs struggled for most of the season
Sir this is a Wendyâs
This guy is obsessed with pizza charts rather than eye test.
I think the solution will be fairly simple. With Garnacho coming through on the left and with Rashford playing better from the left, with Antony on the right there is a clear lack of space for Jadon Sancho. A player who looks more suited to playing as a No.10 than wide in the EPL. EtH has even said recently about Sancho playing centrally as a No.10, EtH also likes versatility in his forward players to switch positions, something Sancho would thrive doing. So I don't think we have to look to hard for who will replace Bruno in the long term.
Thats why stats only compliments football you have to also actually watch the game to know ball
Really hoping you to add cristiano ronaldosâs jersey frame too, I know he isnât at his best and so not play for an elite club but what he has given to our generation and football is priceless. I hope you agree.
And that is why Ten Hag wanted FDJ last summer.
Yes Bruno has flaws in his game. And it is obvious to anyone that he can't carry the ball forward.
But I don't know if it is necessarily true that in the future, the team has to be built around him.
Eriksen also has similar weaknesses in his game to Bruno but also helps carry the creative burden when he is fit.
Bruno's flaws are more exposed when he is the sole creative outlet in the team like he has been since Eriksen got injured, and defensively our issues are exacerbated by the enforced absence of Casemiro.
What is more of a pressing need for United is to find someone who can perform what Eriksen does but with additional attributes like carrying the ball forward and offer more defensively than what Eriksen does.
That way we don't always need to rely on just Bruno to be the sole creative outlet.
As for the market for attacking midfielders, regardless of our finances, there really aren't many players available who could do what Bruno does but better.
Perhaps someone like Wirtz could do that eventually, if we can beat out Bayern for his signature.
Please donât harm yourself there are hotlines you can call
@@ihatethewind What on earth are you on about?
Had the opportunity to watch United warm up before THAT chelsea game this season. He was by far and away the best finisher, donât forget ronaldo was in that warm up. EVERYTHING was top binz - if he can bring that onto pitch heâll be world class.
You really talking about how good a professional playerâs warm ups were.
Iâm glad you got to see something cool in person but damn dude. Thatâs rough
Make a video on importance of having left footed player in team
Stats tell us a lot but so does watching a player throughout a season, the former is a lot easier for a video though.
I think Bruno is simply overplayed, there is no single player who could fill in for him and don't forget this is Ten Hag's first season. Arteta molded that Arsenal side slowly over time, which made Odegaard more productive in it. Previous to this season he wasn't near Bruno's numbers. There's no need to replace him, just get someone else who could play that role, because he would end up injured at some point.
It could be a tryout season. Just to see if a bruno project works and if it does im sure they bring the right person for the job.
I can't believe this guy compared odergard with Bruno. The hate these people have for united players is insane
Right. Odegard can actually improve
"isn't good enough". yet, he was putting in 40-50+ goal contributions a season and leading chance creation metrics.
I remember our attacking midfielders post bruno playing safer than our backline.Attackers have to take risks and aventually lose some balls
But he loses most balls not some.
name 1 attacking midfielder better than bruno besides kdb in the premier league@@zinedinezidane4771
Good one. This analysis assumes United are aspiring for Prem titles & UCLs. I believe Bruno will raise his game for 1-2 years to challenge. Eriksen & Casemiro are also going to gas out by 2025. Utd will need to build a pipeline of highly talented 3-4 young mids and bring in a world class box to box player to help in this transition whilst maintaining title challenges in PL & UCL
Really only the first full year of Bruno at Utd weâre actually world class then dipped since then - still a great player but his impact has been declining as Utd move beyond him
You mussed the mark with this one Tifo.