There have been several questions about lightfastness. Here is what Woomer shared with me, along with a pdf of their formal testing that included pictures and standardization of their process (not sure how to share that here... sorry) From Woomer: The report rates from 1 to 5, where 5 indicates the highest level of lightfastness and 1 the lowest. This differs from the more common 1-8 scale. Our tests, including those detailed in the GST report, primarily adhere to the ASTM D6901 standard. Below, I've outlined the main standards used for measuring lightfastness to provide a clearer understanding: **ASTM D6901-15 for Colored Pencils:** - **Range**: I to V - **Details**: - **Category I**: Excellent lightfastness - **Category II**: Very good lightfastness - **Category III**: Good lightfastness - **Category IV**: Fair lightfastness - **Category V**: Poor lightfastness **Blue Wool Scale (European Standard EN ISO 105):** - **Range**: 1 to 8 (with 8 being the highest degree of lightfastness) - **Details**: A higher number indicates better resistance to light-induced fading.
The Woomers look like they're more pigmented than the Holbeins. I've discovered that with inexpensive sharpeners my Prismas core are horrible. However if I use a Monius and Rooper brass sharpener thye're still really good. Then again I used my pencils to adult color.
That is true! A good pencil sharpener makes a big difference. I think you would like the woomer pencils for adult coloring books. They would be great. Very bright and pigmented.
I immediately went to amazon and purchased these pencils. You are such an amazing artist. It was so nice to get something that is approved like an expert artist like you. Thank you! Even though I didn’t need to get it (oh by the way it had gone up a couple of dollars to $30 something when I bought them) but there isn’t that satisfaction that even a cheaper pencil can do such an amazing job. I am so glad I found your channel and follow your tutorials. Thank you again.
Thank you so much! I am excited to hear your thoughts on them when you try them out... so be sure to let me know how you feel about them and what you end up using them for. Also, I am currently beta testing a full course all about color, color mixing, and color psychology. And I'd love to send you an email when its ready! If you are interested please sign up to get notified here. lana-gloschat.mykajabi.com/get-notified
@@LanaGloschatArt oh, I’m so glad you gave me your website. I was trying to log in the other day and even tried to email you that the site was not working. It gave an error message. But I will check out the website once it on. Thank you!
@@LanaGloschatArt i tried those Woomer pencils and oh boy! I thought i got some butter sticks of different colors and drawing with them on paper! How smooth can this be! But the sad part is, wish I knew the techniques to color with colored pencils! Oh! Well, gotta watch your channels and learn, I guess!
I am working with Woomer pencils and I like them very much. They are close to my S. Farben oil based pencils. Please note that I am a rank beginner. Thank you for bringing the Woomer pencils to our attention.
Hmm, I was looking for their Hompage but couldn't find it, can you provide the Link? I would also like to know what system of testing lightfastness did they use. Because (I think Lachri did a Video about the Holbein ones, and they use a totally made up system). And the only way I found you can buy these, is always as a complete Set. So if I use up 1 or 2 Colors, I have to spend 30 Bucks for one or two pencils - seems extremly price for me. I would still recommend a smaller set from an established company like Derwent, Caran d'Ache or Faber Castell, if you care about lightfastness and buying your pencils open stock. These pencils are cheep for a reason and there is definitely a catch. Testing for lightfastness is a long and expensive process, and they claim to do that for a childrens product.... Sorry, but I don't believe them. And someone definitely doesn't need to spend 560 Bucks on CP to paint. But with the established brands you can start with a small set for the same money and stock up the colors you want step by step.
I have only seen them on amazon at this point. Here is a link to that:www.amazon.com/dp/B0CN6QDZMP?maas=maas_adg_F3635F959A3C25D4D6158CF133E00C6F_afap_abs&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas. I just shared the info I have about lightfastness in a pinned comment. I am hoping that helps ALSO, I am 100% for using smaller sets, and as I mentioned this set won't be replacing my current pencils for my work, however I think they are a great option for beginners... I personally prefer them to prismas
@@LanaGloschatArt Thanks for the information and sorry when I seem to be over critical but I think if somethings to good to be true it isn't. And a Company where one can't even find the Website.... Did they provide you with a certivicate for their lightfastnes testing or do they just claim that they do it? Don't get me wrong, but it seems pretty strange that a pencil that costs about 20Cents should have the same pigments as Caran d'Ache, wich 20 times more in cost for one pencil I don't fault you for that, but I am deeply mistrusting about these unknown companies when they claim to have such high standards for a childrens product......
Not personally, but I just included the lightfast information from woomer in a pinned comment. Both holbein and woomer use a different type of testing so it might be a little different than what you expect with european brands. I am used to the european testing system and I will probably still use my lightfasts for projects in which lightfastness is crucial... but these are a great option for sketches, travel, and are probably still lightfast ;)
This is Amazing. I love them both but like the lighter color in first one. I appreciate the depth you go to in explaining how to do this. I have trouble with choosing my colors and would love to be able to color as wonderfully as you do but that's way in future....maybe. Thank you for referring me to this video and now I'm off to binge your other videos.
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching. If you like my approach to teaching color/colored pencil I think you would really love my new course. I am currently beta testing a full course all about color, color mixing, and color psychology. And I think you would LOVE IT! I'd love to send you an email when its ready! If you are interested please sign up to get notified here. lana-gloschat.mykajabi.com/get-notified
Both are incredibly perfect pieces of art. You are an amazing artist, a perfectionist - as I personally adore, in the first place! Thank you very much for the information about these colour pencils, I really need something for a sketchbook that is not too expensive and yet "works". Thank you! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
These seem to work nicely and your rose turned out so beautiful! I was hoping to get my hands on some better pencils without breaking the bank soon and was looking forwards to your video on them. Sadly I can’t get these pencils where I am so I’ll have to keep my eyes open for a while longer I guess.
@@LanaGloschatArt Thank you, that's super nice of you! I'm in Europe, Germany. I'm pretty used to not getting the things you have in the USA by now but it's still annoying sometimes :D
Hi, Lana. Thank you for making all these helpful videos! Question: have you tried alcohol to blend CPs as an alternative to solvents? I cannot use any solvent...
Do not get them from Blick that is ridiculou price. Just a few months ago they were only 375 at Blick but even that is too high in my opinion. I imported mine from Japan for $260 dollars on Amazon Japan at the time. You can get them from Discovery Japan for $218 right now. Blick is just crazy and killing the Holbein pencil market here in US and I do not understand why-they don't over charge other Holbein products, (maybe a little) I get Holbein pastels and gouache products all the time- this price gouge should be illegal.
Thank you for sharing this information with us. I didn't realize there were other ways to get them cheaper! I would never have personally purchased them at this price - lucky for me the company sent me a set :)
Both beautiful work. I didn't prefere any of them for the performance. I like the colors in the Holbeins better but only because personal preference. Have a nice day.
@@LanaGloschatArt thank you, that would be wonderful. I’ve always worked with graphite pencils, dry pastels and watercolour pencils, only moved to coloured pencils last year, so I’m still searching for the best ‘reasonable’ priced ones while I practice and get a ‘feel’ for them. Btw you have a great energy onscreen, it’s a pleasure to watch you work ☺️
Hello ! Thank you very much for your excellent training. I am one of your fans from Iran. I would like to ask you to enable the Persian captions, so that we Iranians can understand your explanations well. Thank you 🙌❤️
Wow! Your painting of the rose with the lightfast budget Woomer pencils looks gorgeous! So impressive! The Holbein rose is also lovely, but I think I prefer the Woomer rose for its vibrancy and contrast . So interesting that you find the Woomer quality superior to Prismacolor. Thank you for experimenting with something new and doing it with integrity. God bless you!
Ahh you are so sweet. I am currently beta testing a full course all about color, color mixing, and color psychology. And I can teach you how to do this. I'd love to send you an email when its ready! If you are interested please sign up to get notified here. lana-gloschat.mykajabi.com/get-notified
I wouldn't trust their lightfast claims, how can they be so cheap and lightfast? Anyone familiar with art supplies knows how expensive the professional ranges are due to the cost of the tests and pigments. Stick to Luminance and Derwent Lightfast if you plan on selling originals.
I agree that when lightfastness is truly important (selling originals) that I would probably use different more tested pencils, however, personally lightfastness isn’t really an important factor for me when I’m working in a sketchbook or trying something new. And that’s the way I would recommend using these pencils. I think they are great for playing/experimenting and for beginners. Hopefully that is what came across in the video 😊
@@LanaGloschatArt For students these kinds of cheap sets that are emerging online are great, they are cheap and offer lots of colors. These new brands did not exist back then when I was in high school, nowadays we have more options, that's another good thing for young artists.
There have been several questions about lightfastness. Here is what Woomer shared with me, along with a pdf of their formal testing that included pictures and standardization of their process (not sure how to share that here... sorry)
From Woomer:
The report rates from 1 to 5, where 5 indicates the highest level of lightfastness and 1 the lowest. This differs from the more common 1-8 scale.
Our tests, including those detailed in the GST report, primarily adhere to the ASTM D6901 standard. Below, I've outlined the main standards used for measuring lightfastness to provide a clearer understanding:
**ASTM D6901-15 for Colored Pencils:**
- **Range**: I to V
- **Details**:
- **Category I**: Excellent lightfastness
- **Category II**: Very good lightfastness
- **Category III**: Good lightfastness
- **Category IV**: Fair lightfastness
- **Category V**: Poor lightfastness
**Blue Wool Scale (European Standard EN ISO 105):**
- **Range**: 1 to 8 (with 8 being the highest degree of lightfastness)
- **Details**: A higher number indicates better resistance to light-induced fading.
The Woomers look like they're more pigmented than the Holbeins. I've discovered that with inexpensive sharpeners my Prismas core are horrible. However if I use a Monius and Rooper brass sharpener thye're still really good. Then again I used my pencils to adult color.
That is true! A good pencil sharpener makes a big difference. I think you would like the woomer pencils for adult coloring books. They would be great. Very bright and pigmented.
I immediately went to amazon and purchased these pencils. You are such an amazing artist. It was so nice to get something that is approved like an expert artist like you. Thank you! Even though I didn’t need to get it (oh by the way it had gone up a couple of dollars to $30 something when I bought them) but there isn’t that satisfaction that even a cheaper pencil can do such an amazing job. I am so glad I found your channel and follow your tutorials. Thank you again.
Thank you so much! I am excited to hear your thoughts on them when you try them out... so be sure to let me know how you feel about them and what you end up using them for. Also, I am currently beta testing a full course all about color, color mixing, and color psychology. And I'd love to send you an email when its ready! If you are interested please sign up to get notified here. lana-gloschat.mykajabi.com/get-notified
@@LanaGloschatArt oh, I’m so glad you gave me your website. I was trying to log in the other day and even tried to email you that the site was not working. It gave an error message. But I will check out the website once it on. Thank you!
@@vupps yea the website is under construction, hope to have it finished soon!
@@LanaGloschatArt i tried those Woomer pencils and oh boy! I thought i got some butter sticks of different colors and drawing with them on paper! How smooth can this be! But the sad part is, wish I knew the techniques to color with colored pencils! Oh! Well, gotta watch your channels and learn, I guess!
@@vupps I’m glad you are enjoying them! Just keep practicing, you and hopefully I see you in my course when I launch in the fall :)
I am working with Woomer pencils and I like them very much. They are close to my S. Farben oil based pencils. Please note that I am a rank beginner. Thank you for bringing the Woomer pencils to our attention.
I listened to your discussion of the Woomer colored pencils and ordered them on Amazon. Thank you for providing information about them.
You are so welcome! Let me know what you think once you try them out. I would love to hear about your experience!!!
Love the second picture. More realistic and vibrant. Thanks for the lesson
Fantastic drawing! You’re a real pro - not everybody would achieve such results with high end pencils, let alone cheaper pencils. :D Kudos to you. 🤩
Thank you so much 😀
Hmm, I was looking for their Hompage but couldn't find it, can you provide the Link? I would also like to know what system of testing lightfastness did they use. Because (I think Lachri did a Video about the Holbein ones, and they use a totally made up system). And the only way I found you can buy these, is always as a complete Set. So if I use up 1 or 2 Colors, I have to spend 30 Bucks for one or two pencils - seems extremly price for me.
I would still recommend a smaller set from an established company like Derwent, Caran d'Ache or Faber Castell, if you care about lightfastness and buying your pencils open stock. These pencils are cheep for a reason and there is definitely a catch. Testing for lightfastness is a long and expensive process, and they claim to do that for a childrens product.... Sorry, but I don't believe them.
And someone definitely doesn't need to spend 560 Bucks on CP to paint. But with the established brands you can start with a small set for the same money and stock up the colors you want step by step.
I have only seen them on amazon at this point. Here is a link to that:www.amazon.com/dp/B0CN6QDZMP?maas=maas_adg_F3635F959A3C25D4D6158CF133E00C6F_afap_abs&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas.
I just shared the info I have about lightfastness in a pinned comment. I am hoping that helps
ALSO, I am 100% for using smaller sets, and as I mentioned this set won't be replacing my current pencils for my work, however I think they are a great option for beginners... I personally prefer them to prismas
@@LanaGloschatArt Thanks for the information and sorry when I seem to be over critical but I think if somethings to good to be true it isn't. And a Company where one can't even find the Website....
Did they provide you with a certivicate for their lightfastnes testing or do they just claim that they do it?
Don't get me wrong, but it seems pretty strange that a pencil that costs about 20Cents should have the same pigments as Caran d'Ache, wich 20 times more in cost for one pencil
I don't fault you for that, but I am deeply mistrusting about these unknown companies when they claim to have such high standards for a childrens product......
I really love watching you create. Your end results are divine!! Loving the vivid colors of this budget set! Thx for sharing ❤
Thank you so much! I appreciate you reaching out and watching the video!
Do you know if the lightfast results are the same as the testing done by CPSA? Or are they their own? JW. TY
Its not the european system. But I posted what Woomer sent me in a pinned comment
@@LanaGloschatArt Thank you
have you a lightfast test of the two brands?
Not personally, but I just included the lightfast information from woomer in a pinned comment. Both holbein and woomer use a different type of testing so it might be a little different than what you expect with european brands. I am used to the european testing system and I will probably still use my lightfasts for projects in which lightfastness is crucial... but these are a great option for sketches, travel, and are probably still lightfast ;)
This is Amazing. I love them both but like the lighter color in first one. I appreciate the depth you go to in explaining how to do this. I have trouble with choosing my colors and would love to be able to color as wonderfully as you do but that's way in future....maybe. Thank you for referring me to this video and now I'm off to binge your other videos.
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching. If you like my approach to teaching color/colored pencil I think you would really love my new course. I am currently beta testing a full course all about color, color mixing, and color psychology. And I think you would LOVE IT! I'd love to send you an email when its ready! If you are interested please sign up to get notified here. lana-gloschat.mykajabi.com/get-notified
Both are incredibly perfect pieces of art. You are an amazing artist, a perfectionist - as I personally adore, in the first place! Thank you very much for the information about these colour pencils, I really need something for a sketchbook that is not too expensive and yet "works". Thank you! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks so much! That’s so kind! Thanks for watching
oh , more infos on the mysterious colored pencils !! thank you for sharing .
Sure thing!
These seem to work nicely and your rose turned out so beautiful! I was hoping to get my hands on some better pencils without breaking the bank soon and was looking forwards to your video on them. Sadly I can’t get these pencils where I am so I’ll have to keep my eyes open for a while longer I guess.
Thanks! Darn I’m sorry to hear that. Are you outside the USA? if so where? I’ll contact Woomer and ask when/if they will be available for you.
@@LanaGloschatArt Thank you, that's super nice of you! I'm in Europe, Germany. I'm pretty used to not getting the things you have in the USA by now but it's still annoying sometimes :D
Hi, Lana. Thank you for making all these helpful videos! Question: have you tried alcohol to blend CPs as an alternative to solvents? I cannot use any solvent...
I like the woomer better because it is more vibrant.
Thanks so much!
@@LanaGloschatArt You are very welcome! 😍🤗
Do not get them from Blick that is ridiculou price. Just a few months ago they were only 375 at Blick but even that is too high in my opinion. I imported mine from Japan for $260 dollars on Amazon Japan at the time. You can get them from Discovery Japan for $218 right now. Blick is just crazy and killing the Holbein pencil market here in US and I do not understand why-they don't over charge other Holbein products, (maybe a little) I get Holbein pastels and gouache products all the time- this price gouge should be illegal.
Thank you for sharing this information with us. I didn't realize there were other ways to get them cheaper! I would never have personally purchased them at this price - lucky for me the company sent me a set :)
OMG I'm only just now realizing you're the "new" Sketchbox tutorial person! Congratulations on the gig!
Ha ha! Thanks. Do you subscribe to sketchbox?! How long have you been a subscriber and have you had any favorite boxes lately?!
Both beautiful work. I didn't prefere any of them for the performance. I like the colors in the Holbeins better but only because personal preference. Have a nice day.
Thanks so much for sharing!
When are these pencils available on Amazon in the Netherlands
I’ll look into it!
Beautiful artwork Lana. Unfortunately the Woomer coloured pencils don’t seem to be available in the UK ☹️.
I’m sorry about that. I’ll reach out to Woomer and see when they will be available
@@LanaGloschatArt thank you, that would be wonderful. I’ve always worked with graphite pencils, dry pastels and watercolour pencils, only moved to coloured pencils last year, so I’m still searching for the best ‘reasonable’ priced ones while I practice and get a ‘feel’ for them. Btw you have a great energy onscreen, it’s a pleasure to watch you work ☺️
Hello ! Thank you very much for your excellent training. I am one of your fans from Iran. I would like to ask you to enable the Persian captions, so that we Iranians can understand your explanations well. Thank you 🙌❤️
Thanks for watching. I will look into this - honestly I have never had this request so I will need to do some research.
@@LanaGloschatArt thank you very much 🙌💕
quite enjoyable and beautiful.
Thanks so much!
Very excellent and unique😇
Thanks so much!
Nice idea but they cost $79 on Amazon in Australia.
Really?! I just see the US price. I’m sorry about that. I’ll reach out to Woomer and ask them about this
So beautiful 😍
Thanks so much!
booooooo they don't ship to the UK
I asked Woomer about this and they are working on it. Not sure about the timeline though
Wow! Your painting of the rose with the lightfast budget Woomer pencils looks gorgeous! So impressive! The Holbein rose is also lovely, but I think I prefer the Woomer rose for its vibrancy and contrast . So interesting that you find the Woomer quality superior to Prismacolor. Thank you for experimenting with something new and doing it with integrity. God bless you!
Thank you so much!
@@LanaGloschatArt You're welcome. Based on your gorgeous drawing, I bought the set for my mother-in-law and she is delighted! Thank you so much.
Are the Woomer oil or wax based?
Oil based
Thank you. Your artwork is wonderful. ❤️
I have talent envy 😄
Ahh you are so sweet. I am currently beta testing a full course all about color, color mixing, and color psychology. And I can teach you how to do this. I'd love to send you an email when its ready! If you are interested please sign up to get notified here. lana-gloschat.mykajabi.com/get-notified
I wouldn't trust their lightfast claims, how can they be so cheap and lightfast?
Anyone familiar with art supplies knows how expensive the professional ranges are due to the cost of the tests and pigments.
Stick to Luminance and Derwent Lightfast if you plan on selling originals.
I agree that when lightfastness is truly important (selling originals) that I would probably use different more tested pencils, however, personally lightfastness isn’t really an important factor for me when I’m working in a sketchbook or trying something new. And that’s the way I would recommend using these pencils. I think they are great for playing/experimenting and for beginners. Hopefully that is what came across in the video 😊
@@LanaGloschatArt For students these kinds of cheap sets that are emerging online are great, they are cheap and offer lots of colors.
These new brands did not exist back then when I was in high school, nowadays we have more options, that's another good thing for young artists.
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Well done! You've truly impressed me.
Wow, thanks!