Another PIP assessment Hell: DWP - Incompetent or corrupt?
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2024
- CONTAINS SOME BAD LANGUAGE AND SOME POLITICAL TRUTHS. DON'T WATCH IF YOU ARE OFFENDED BY EITHER.
My latest PIP assessment process started in February 2024 when I received my PIP review form. I filled it in, sent it back via a Royal Mail tracked service and received confirmation from Royal Mail that it had been delivered. I also received a text message from the DWP saying that they had received the form. So why did I receive a letter today (Friday 12th April 2024) from the DWP saying they haven't received my form? Incompetence or corruption? You decide.
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I'm so glad to see you pop up it's been so long and I was sure you was no longer with us .I'm so happy to see your still fighting them .
I've just been struggling with minor but annoying health problems lately.
Within a week of sending my application form, I received a text message to confirm receipt.
About 6 weeks later I received a letter saying that they hadn’t received my forms. I chose to ignore it, the following week I got a text message confirming my pip phone interview.
It’s my belief they do this to to test your ability to interpret read and react to complex information
Yeah, that's a possibility but it also shows a certain level of malice towards the claimant too.
That doesn't prove nothing because I often have to get a family member to read my letters and explain whatever crap they are contacting me about.
i had a tribunal last year! i wasnt informed when it was taking place for to to attend,i wasnt informed it had taken place until i finally rang them to see what was going on
and only then was i informed it had taken place 8 weeks previously and i was unsuccessful in the appeal , she also told that i was informed by letter and email
about the outcome which i had not, since first applying 5 years ago my health problems have more than doubled, universal credit has convinced me to try again now,
i have no hope at all of receiving anything tho ! what gets me the most is my problems are all work related after 43 years as a bricklayer, not a rich one by the way!
Please keep fighting , DONT GIVE UP , sending love 💝xxx
Sorry to hear how badly you've been treated. I doubt you being at the tribunal would have altered the result because I had a tribunal about my rejected claim for DLA and it still got rejected on physical health grounds despite the fact that my claim was on mental health grounds and there was a supposed mental health sufferer on the panel.
Thanks for the reply s
Its just because you sent it fairly close to the date...their prompt letters are completely automated. If you send your form within a week of your return date you will end up getting one of thise reminder letters.
Exactly.
It looks like it could be a similar set up to hmrc where it goes to a processing centre, where it is scanned onto a computer. It dosnt actually go to the person assessing you.
It probably is that kind of system but they still have proof of receipt so there's really no excuse for denying they've received the form.
Shared your video over on our page, watching in full now will speak soon.
Thank you so much for the plug. It is very much appreciated.
Iv always recorded deliverly my pip form im waiting for my decision fingers cross
2:35 this bit humoured me! 😂 Love the video!
I say we can't tell them all that we aren't doctors.. I 'm never giving bthem monhey again. I paid plenty of tax.
Oh you on the ball now.
My Dad was recently meant to have a health call.. but they didn't call and they claim he didn't answer. :/
The DWP are complete utter bastards but I still can't make up my mind whether they're incompetent or corrupt. Have you chased them up about your dad's call yet?
@theabyssalvault4238 well we've told them no he didn't get a call... I'm not sure what is happening right now. I need to ask if they ever rearranged it.
Well I hope things get sorted out as soon as possible and that it won't cause any disruption to any income.
welcome back
Not bothered about bad language its needed and more
Great blog now you got the Waiteing game like me
So it's not just me who thinks it's a dirty trick they play. Luckily, from day one, I've always sent any paperwork back to government bodies by recorded delivery. But every single time I send my PIP forms back, I get a letter saying they have no received them. But you ring up and guess what they've just been found on a colleagues desk. I'm none verbal on the phone as I suffer from aphasia. My family just about understands me, but when my wife Rings the DWP to Converse about my PIP they insist on speaking to me. Even though my wife has power of attorney, and the DWP have been notified of this on numerous occasions. This is very humiliating, because all I get from the person on the other end of the phone is" speak up and more clearly we can't understand you" this I am sure is another one of there dirty tricks to try and catch me out. I can't change what has happened to me. 10 years ago I was a fully able bodied healthy person with a good job. And given half the chance I would be back doing the job I loved.And showing my children a proper work ethic that's a father has and deep down I still have
I'm so sorry to hear how badly you have been treated by the DWP. I'm sure you're right about it being a dirty trick and shows either the despicable attitude towards claimants or the need for better training for the DWP phone operators.
Do you have an email or other method of contact? I used work for ATOS and want offer advice and help point out incompetence and corruption your correct with and more and can provide proof I worked for them too
Thats exactly what it is 1 pound out of our pocket is a result in hes book
I'm sure this is a system-generated letter that's produced when the form return isn't logged into the system promptly. Most letters from major organisations, including the DWP, are system-generated. The only exception is decision letters, where the decision maker provides their reasoning.
Thanku so much for Ur video , you so made me laugh calling him a w****r , I m still laughing now omg it's made my day , and iv shared it out lol , cuz it will cheer everyone up , it really is a f*****g nightmare what they put ya thru , makes u feel so damn sick and really iLL, I have mental health and too unwell to carry on with therapy, iv got assesment again at mental health hospital next week cuz I need more medication to try help me calm a bit , iv been on venlafaxine for 24/25 years , iv tried other stuff that don't work , my mental health getting out of control now , I had pip assessment two days ago for my renewal , I feel traumatised and can't get it off my head , I too had sent forms by recorded delivery , yep a stack of proof too , therapists etc , everyone must do that , i know what your going thru , these people , how dare they give people 0 points wtf , I wish you and everyone else so much luck , stay STRONG and keep FIGHTING xxx sending lots of love to you and ALL 💝💞💝💞
I'm glad I was able to cheer you up for a few minutes. Yeah, these assessments can be traumatising. They're probably going to give some of us PTSD with their attitudes, it certainly doesn't help those of us with poor mental health get any better.
@@theabyssalvault4238 yes you so cheered me up lol 🤣, i know they put us thru HELL , and its done on purpose, they just want us to give up cuz they dont wanna pay us , dont even get me started on that rishi sunak , omggggggg , i wish you so much luck and hope you get pip straight away without being messed around xx good luck hun ✨💫💝
No better proof than online to screenshot
A lot of the time they are sent out late
You dont have to send all evidence evry time they have it on record
I only sent evidence gathered since my last assessment. It had discharge paperwork on my hospitalisation with COVID, the five minor operations I've had and my test results from the tests I had to have done to be referred to the Long COVID clinic.
You are already being screwed over. I had a text saying about a PIP review that I was not expecting so soon. I phoned up Scope and they said oh they do that as standard around six, seven months before the award is due to end because it will take that long for them to process it. I had to laugh really, I had read that they were supposed to be giving you a year extension after your award has ended to cover the back log. I am expecting a fight because I think when they call it early, they want to cancel your claim as they might have new evidence e,g they have followed you around etc etc and they want to stop your claim as quickly as possible. You send the PIP review back, and Scope reckoned they always do that because it takes so long. However, if you fail in your PIP review, your money will stop straight away. Your ESA will stop as well needless to say, because you failed your PIP, as this is 13 days ago they are trying to kill as many of us as they possibly can, as quickly as they can so no legal challenges can be made.
Just a tip, don't turn up at all, say your too ill, I'm not claiming pip nor am I going to as most people find it a nightmare, dwp is run by willing slaves, a lot on uc themselfs and are also subject to sanctions
I’m genuinely unsure if not turning up is great advice to give.
I certainly wouldn't follow that advice.
They'll be scrapping PIP soon. And it will all be paid via UC. But problems ahead for so many
No, they will be scrapping the LCWRA element of UC so that anyone who gets PIP automatically receives that too. PIP isn't going anywhere.
Nothing is changing yet. Proposals are still being made on what sort of payments PIP should have. Nothing will change until after the next government comes into power. I've seen that it is supposed to start coming in from next April up to 2028.
Sounds like utter chaos 😬
Why don’t you just do it online. I did my application online
Why did it take you over 4 weeks to send it back when essentially all you are doing is ticking a "I have no changes to my circumstances" and signing it. Why nearly 4 weeks?
It wasn't just a case of ticking "I have no changes to my circumstances" and signing it. Since my last PIP assessment I've had a hospitalisation with COVID (Critical Care), five minor operations, a new diagnosis regarding my mental health (PTSD caused by my hospitalisation with COVID) and a change in medication all of which needed to be evidenced. As I have Long COVID induced brain fog concentrating for a prolonged period of time is impossible for me and the memory problems (also COVID related) meant it was hard to remember where I put the letters/hospital discharge reports/test results because of the confused state I was in when I put them away. It also takes a few days to process the feelings of terror at receiving the form and the possible loss of benefits which is always a possibility given how the government hate the disabled especially those with invisible disabilities like mental health issues.
@theabyssalvault4238 Fair enough, I do apologise for jumping the gun. That's just what I done in my case (sent back within a week), and it seemed to go in my favour as extended for 3 yrs.
I received my P I P renewal for on the 8th of February this year, and had to return it by the 12th. Yes four days to gather consultants letters, copies of prescriptions and doctors letters. The date the letter was sent was the 10th of January. I was livid and panic struck.
@@jonathanp89I take it you’ve seen or filled in a PIP form 🙄. I think you’ll find it’s not just ticking boxes.
Thought u be OAP by now.
No, under the Tory retirement rules I'd have to have been dead for a decade before I was considered an OAP. I just look like an OAP because of my grey beard and world weary facial appearance.
This is too common. Who's wrong really?
Do not concern yourself with what can go wrong. Try and assume it will work out perfect for yourself
Wrong advice. Complete the form as if your life depends on it, which it does in most cases. people who believe that DWP treat all climates fairly get the shock of their lives when their claim is stopped or rejected from the start.