How Blow Through Carb Systems Work. It makes too much power!

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  • @ericspratt3164
    @ericspratt3164 Před 6 měsíci +20

    “Who cares, it’s part throttle”. Words to live by right there.

    • @lt1nut
      @lt1nut Před 6 měsíci +4

      Ahhhh, the mantra when running Hilborns 👍🏼

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Před 17 dny

      @@lt1nut a man that "knows"..your post says it all lol

  • @pete540Z
    @pete540Z Před 6 měsíci +4

    Most people call those little screws on the metering block "idle mixture screws".
    I like the term "idle volume screws" because they control the volume of the emulsified fuel/air mixture from the idle/transition well to the idle port below the throttle blades.
    So they control the volume of emulsified fuel/air, not fuel, precisely.

  • @strykerentllc
    @strykerentllc Před 6 měsíci +72

    The most comprehensive, detailed, and informative tuning/dyno presentations ever compiled. Appreciate the continued videos and of course no video is complete without Dewey making a casual or deliberate cameo. Cheers!

    • @shawnquaintance1480
      @shawnquaintance1480 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Couldn't have said it any better! Pretty sure if you looked up the definition of customer service it's gonna have a picture of Steve!🤣

    • @revolutioniscoming
      @revolutioniscoming Před 6 měsíci

      Tim Nelson is the best

    • @strykerentllc
      @strykerentllc Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@revolutioniscoming Never heard of her.

    • @remb9614
      @remb9614 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@revolutioniscomingthere’s always one

    • @WingspeedGarage
      @WingspeedGarage Před 6 měsíci

      But still incompetent enough to let the supercharger pull hot air straight from the headers 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @square_zerohero2281
    @square_zerohero2281 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Take his advice as gold, and these engines will survive years at this level. I've been following him for decades, and I've built a similar setup to this at my home because of his builds Ive read about as a child. I have a 565 cubic inch big block Chevy with an F-1X Procharger that I street drive with the same 77/58 tooth pulley combo that he tried in this video with my timing locked at 30. I also have a 46 tooth blower pulley if Im able to use more. I haven't pulled my engine in 8 years. I appreciate the lessons he shares with us, and I'm thankful to enjoy the rewards of the knowledge that hes always shared with us for free. Expect brutal power. Good stuff

  • @briananderson5284
    @briananderson5284 Před 6 měsíci +24

    Thanks again Professor Morris for yet another great lesson 😊 your passion for teaching is Awesome love the longer Video !!! Keep up the Amazing Lessons!!!!

  • @michaelkennedy2528
    @michaelkennedy2528 Před 6 měsíci +11

    The HP numbers on that engine climb faster than the National Debt Meter.

  • @blown572hemi
    @blown572hemi Před 6 měsíci +11

    Great instructoral video for beginners. I've always preferred carburetors. They are smarter than what people give them credit for. If running boost, they act like intercoolers. I'd like the spec's ondy engine tho. Great video as usual.

  • @dirgle
    @dirgle Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for taking the time to do this. It was very informative and entertaining to see what goes into it. Especially on a blow through setup.

  • @mikef-gi2dg
    @mikef-gi2dg Před 6 měsíci +1

    For someone like me, who has yet to do his FIRST BLOW THRU anything.....that is about three semesters of HOW TO MAKE HORSEPOWER, but be happy when you get less! I met Mr. Morris, when I came out to 131 last year to get a look at the wagon. I told him then, and it still stands...."if I ever got in a position to buy some power like this...I know where I am going". I know it's not an LS...and that's the point! I would leave it just where he ended, and in my MONZA'S, or 78 Malibu, or S-10 Blazer, or my 68 Impala, you couldn't cut the smile off my face.
    Quote: power is easy, making it live is the hard part!

  • @ray_s281
    @ray_s281 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I love the carburetor talk.

  • @nitrousshovelhead
    @nitrousshovelhead Před 2 měsíci +1

    “Who cares, it’s part throttle” finely something I already knew. lol. thank you for all your help

  • @071903ma
    @071903ma Před 6 měsíci +5

    Great video Steve,, you helped me on my SBC blow through F-1 deal and these videos are tremendous help! Thank u for what u do!!

  • @15trucklt83
    @15trucklt83 Před 2 měsíci

    I learn something every time I watch his videos. And I thought I knew a good bit about how internal combustion engines worked.

  • @crazydaze248
    @crazydaze248 Před 6 měsíci +4

    One of your best videos yet! The information was awesome and very detailed.

  • @desertrat8322
    @desertrat8322 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Steve awesome video as always , i really like those carb tuning tricks for dialing in a performance/ racing carb . Ive got a AED 975cfm Holley that was built by AED for my Shafiroff racing 427sbc

  • @dmeemd7787
    @dmeemd7787 Před 6 měsíci

    The amount of information, and the things that this will trigger that I had forgotten or things I’ve never know it all, and every other conceivable combination… I am just beyond grateful for the quality and amount of content!!

  • @matthouse8499
    @matthouse8499 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Thanks Steve and Kyle, you guy never cease to amaze me with the amount oh hps you guys get out of these engines , just waiting to see more on your sml blocks 😎👍🏻

  • @brracing7861
    @brracing7861 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the Tuning Tips Steve Morris.

  • @sidneysnottley6414
    @sidneysnottley6414 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Stay with the long form vid - always entertaining and informative.

  • @albertomoniz9051
    @albertomoniz9051 Před 6 měsíci

    Awesome dyno session Merry Christmas to and everyone at Steve Morris Engines . God bless .

  • @jamesshaw89
    @jamesshaw89 Před 5 měsíci

    Fantastic video. This was really neat seeing how you tune a carb then detune the motor some to make it safe/live.

  • @padders1068
    @padders1068 Před 6 měsíci

    Steve, thanks for sharing and educating! Great work Sir! Happy holidays to you, Dewey, your family and friends!

  • @gordonburnett9672
    @gordonburnett9672 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Fun day tuning, the second pulley set, was good, it dropped the mid range torque bump which is good, that area can be the one to hurt bearings, and break other stuff.

  • @user-cb3ti8qt1w
    @user-cb3ti8qt1w Před 6 měsíci +1

    Wow great engine. Thanks for all of the details Steve

  • @planesofpaper
    @planesofpaper Před 6 měsíci

    Such a good video. Amazed to see a fixed timing amount. I love the learning.

  • @mcummings4643
    @mcummings4643 Před 2 měsíci

    THANKYOU STEVE n SON , you have a fantastic setup there and are great at speaking to us normal people. I'm a basic guy in Oz and I'm learning the finer things to get my next ride running properly, I'm more turbo rather than blower but things might change.
    Thanks guy's

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Před 17 dny

      Lovec blowers fora few reasons...driven many Turbo cars but neverb uilt one. Afraid Id get greedy keep cranking boost up til I popped the engine. Im that idiot

  • @EASTSIDERIDER707
    @EASTSIDERIDER707 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I’m 72 and grew up on carburetors. Once you learn the process, it’s left to the individual circuitry. Holly was my preferred brand.

  • @michaelgallopo5879
    @michaelgallopo5879 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Very strong engine awesome video...keep living the dream ✨️ Merry Christmas to you and your family

  • @funkiwikid6106
    @funkiwikid6106 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks very much for the little things that make the big difference.

  • @toddgreim9254
    @toddgreim9254 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks Steve loved this one!

  • @chevy2adam850
    @chevy2adam850 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Awesome video and makes me want one of these Blow Thru Procharged setups even more! As soon as I saw your carb leaking I got flashbacks haha. When I received my carb from them it leaked from every orfice possible. The Needle and seat didn't even have gaskets installed. It made the dyno tech pretty frustrated with me while I tried to fix all of them. Not to mention one of the locating pins for the float bowl on the metering block was completely bent and fell out once the bowls came off as if the pin wasn't seated properly when someone cranked down the float bowl bolts. Contacted Pro systems and all i got was a "Sorry ill let my guys know to be more careful".

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Před 17 dny +1

      Oh F man that sucks. Youd think you spend top dollar for a custom carb and get a teeny bit of support
      Keith over at AED gives the best customer support Ive ever experienced. Hands down the best ever!
      Real patient guy wants every customers car to be its best. Not used to that still lol

  • @alc1986
    @alc1986 Před 6 měsíci +31

    For fun i googled smx engines an found a few people saying its not reliable an is a hit or miss so i had to drop some truth on them lol i told them that steve cares more about his engines in customers car than people know every evnt hes at an hos engines are their i noticed he takes time to check on how they doing or if they need help with a tune they also brought up the viper smx i also brought up tye fact that steve gives a wealth of knowledge an info to anyone i dont have a race car but if i did i would want a Steve Morris engine in caise i know 75% of it was made in house an assembled by hand an care

    • @NBSV1
      @NBSV1 Před 6 měsíci +9

      There’s always going to be negative people. I don’t think there’s nearly as many SMX’s out there as there are people claiming they’re junk.
      At the end of the day basically any race engine making that kind of power is going to break stuff and have problems. Even at “only” 2,000hp it’s still easy to break stuff.

    • @petermcilroy3224
      @petermcilroy3224 Před 6 měsíci +6

      I don’t think he’d be still going if they were no good

    • @lockedinstreetracing6005
      @lockedinstreetracing6005 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Of course there great engines look how busy he stays and it’s the same people buying more or doing refresh’s he had his very first engine on here not long ago it was like 22 years old there is gonna be negative people wherever there is success.

    • @wakeUPdummies
      @wakeUPdummies Před 5 měsíci

      Anyone complaining about a race motor not lasting, does not have valid expectations. If they build it to be race enough, it will only run for a few miles. (and endurance could be the only complaint. Im sure every motor is tested.)

    • @greatestevar
      @greatestevar Před 5 měsíci +2

      Steve is the type of guy who sells things HE wants to be proud to own;
      You are paying for your problems to be his problems;
      He takes it very seriously.
      Anyone making noise is doing just that, making noise.
      If Steve built something that failed; I bet he would take it personally, and make it his mission to help his customer.

  • @merr6267
    @merr6267 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Spy the AvE sticker! Haha.

  • @drewmurray2583
    @drewmurray2583 Před 6 měsíci +4

    first engine I turbo'd was a 80 kawasaki kz750 four with the original carbs. I wore the screws out on them by the time I got the jets right! bought special drill bit set, extra jets. even soldering them shut and re drilling

  • @ldtenenoff
    @ldtenenoff Před 6 měsíci +1

    too Funny at 38 Mins this thing is makin Steve Scratch his head on every pull LOL! Men and theyre Machines thanks fer the Smiles and Knowledge on this this Video Mr.Morris

  • @royduenas1192
    @royduenas1192 Před 6 měsíci

    Exceptionally informative video, yet again, Steve! Happy Holidays! 👍🏼💯🇬🇺

  • @jasonseiverling5354
    @jasonseiverling5354 Před 6 měsíci

    Added bonus of carburetors. Once you get them setup correctly the plugs look perfectly safe. And once you get to that point you know exactly how you can lean on it bit if you need it. Love your videos, Steve. 👍

  • @hankhank3129
    @hankhank3129 Před 6 měsíci

    Great carb tech, thanks! I mentioned a few months back because nobody really talks about it anymore.

  • @timlarson9193
    @timlarson9193 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Oops! Making too much horsepower! 🤣🤣🤣 Just don't hear that very often

  • @codyypettersson7119
    @codyypettersson7119 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Perfect video after a long work day!

  • @metaltrucker97
    @metaltrucker97 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks Steve, I learned something today

  • @sallombardo1678
    @sallombardo1678 Před měsícem

    Hey Steve, I’m looking to put a ProCharger on my 565 and this is a lot of great information!! Thank you for your experience and help! I will be giving you guys a call within the next couple of days to figure out the right combination for me!

  • @gordonstarship
    @gordonstarship Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you for sharing this knowledge. I always learn here.

  • @aaronguerrette
    @aaronguerrette Před 6 měsíci

    25 years ago we were talking bout Blow Thru carbs. Glad they still get their due

  • @davidholcomb9961
    @davidholcomb9961 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video! Lots of great info on tuning the carb and dialing down a blower motor.

  • @builditraceit504
    @builditraceit504 Před 6 měsíci

    Nice refresher course on carb tuning.

  • @125squeeezer
    @125squeeezer Před 3 měsíci

    Idle mixture adds/removes air AND fuel air bleeds are air as you said. I personally change IFR if screws are out too much ie 2.5 x out.

  • @Hoosier81
    @Hoosier81 Před 6 měsíci

    Just want to wish Steve Morris family and crew a Merry Christmas 🎄 I’ve learned a lot watching this channel, Ty

  • @Sinnicide
    @Sinnicide Před 5 měsíci

    Not me seeing this title with my 1984 Honda Magna immediately thinking BUT CAN I TURN MY MAGNA INTO A BLOW THROUGH?!?!?

  • @vehdynam
    @vehdynam Před 6 měsíci

    Great carb/boost tuning information and much appreciated. I am in Canada , and for what I do EFI is too expensive here , thus I use carburetors. Many thanks.

  • @donsmanufactory
    @donsmanufactory Před 6 měsíci

    I attribute that tip in stumble to the low manifold vacuum caused by a “bigger” cam. I reduce the air bleed a bit more and close the idle screw a bit. Same idle mixture but a richer tip in. If you don’t go too far it will run smooth through tip in and not tank fuel economy.

  • @johnnyshell2839
    @johnnyshell2839 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I agree. A touch rich on idle is way more responsive. Neutral or a hair lean gives that delayed gag then jumps. Its all within 1 second but that's the difference between competing or going home

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce Před 6 měsíci

      If Street Car tad lean is fine.

    • @johnnyshell2839
      @johnnyshell2839 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@wobblysauce probably. Unless you need to jump in traffic. That gag could be a bad situation. Even a daily. Go a touch rich. My 81 f-100 300 straight 6 is almost right for where I live. All I have to do is flip the breather cover for summer and winter.

    • @johnmallios6643
      @johnmallios6643 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@johnnyshell2839bb ñ

    • @NunyaBusIness-tl1ev
      @NunyaBusIness-tl1ev Před 5 měsíci +1

      Rich is better to compensate for high ethanol/additive gasoline and/or E85

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Před 17 dny

      Adjustoing for a stronger pump shot will clear that right up.
      Common problem with low vaccum big overlap cams also or not enough initial timing .

  • @jamesrichardson4616
    @jamesrichardson4616 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video Steve! Merry xmas to you and the crew

  • @michaelatkin9649
    @michaelatkin9649 Před 6 měsíci +8

    You just need to buy Kyle a car with a carb and make him drive it to work everyday

    • @Hoaxer51
      @Hoaxer51 Před 6 měsíci +3

      And make it a quadrajet so he has to work on it more.

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 Před 6 měsíci +1

      would he ever get to work??? 🤣🤣

  • @todd8109
    @todd8109 Před 6 měsíci

    This is some of the best information about carburetors I’ve seen with a ProCharger

  • @calvinevans8305
    @calvinevans8305 Před 5 měsíci

    27:08 What's wrong with it Carl? It ain't got no gas in it. Lololol 🤣

  • @garryharris2082
    @garryharris2082 Před 5 měsíci

    Very cool to see that Steve uses Your Dyno controls and software.

  • @Kraken270Jetsprint
    @Kraken270Jetsprint Před 6 měsíci

    Fascinating Steve.. All best xmas new year you and family

  • @ray_s281
    @ray_s281 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you!

  • @justinfargas2367
    @justinfargas2367 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The other thing with the cards is, watching CZcams on a television, is usually most tv's don't have an option to "display cards". All mobile phones usually do however.
    Another banga video. Thanks chaps. 😅

  • @taterkuhn5048
    @taterkuhn5048 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Got a custom built Pro Systems Dominator a couple years ago. Had fuel leak issues and didn’t want to idle. After taking it apart it was nothing like the supplied build sheet said it was supposed to be. It was basically a stock 1050 spec carb. It didn’t perform any better than my home built carb did so I Sold it at a swapmeet. Bought a custom Braswell carb that works well but no better than my old carb built by me outta Holley/QFT parts from yrs ago. Go figure. Guess I’ll put together my own carbs from now on….

  • @knottypine7935
    @knottypine7935 Před 6 měsíci

    Steve has forgotten more than I'll ever know about engines. Love watching the videos! ♥️🇺🇲

  • @stevesmith9254
    @stevesmith9254 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great Video, learned a lot. Thanks,

  • @waylonrichter1253
    @waylonrichter1253 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I love it when the parts guy drops a spark plug (still in the box) and hands it to you like there's no way it could be broken. 23:00

  • @carlstephens-tm7zj
    @carlstephens-tm7zj Před 6 měsíci +1

    Merry Christmas to all at Steve Morris engines

  • @chief3378
    @chief3378 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I just learned a lot about carburetors that I wish I knew 35 years ago

  • @lotafun5480
    @lotafun5480 Před 5 měsíci

    Great stuff!

  • @azmartin1977
    @azmartin1977 Před 6 měsíci +1

    It would be great to know the manifold air density with the different pulleys combos, Gale banks has a set up that would be of great help with extra data.

  • @LilFoxAK
    @LilFoxAK Před 6 měsíci +1

    Steve flexing his knowledge on this one. quick question, those idle adjustment screws dont back out in the car with solid mounts/poly mounts? thanks for schooling me in carbs today!

  • @johnnystanley4469
    @johnnystanley4469 Před 6 měsíci

    Awsome, content love all the differant builds God bless

  • @Thumper68
    @Thumper68 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I prefer carb on my vehicles just so much easier and I don’t have to worry about electrical issues

  • @tomscustomshop
    @tomscustomshop Před 6 měsíci

    Nice result!

  • @jamescusmano2690
    @jamescusmano2690 Před 6 měsíci

    wow steve keep doing it the way you been doing merry xmas and happy knew year

  • @ericsmcmahan
    @ericsmcmahan Před 6 měsíci

    Steve Morris, u r sharp. I am learning a lot from u. Thanks for posting.

  • @StephFourie21
    @StephFourie21 Před 5 měsíci

    Man them herspers just wanted to run free and Steve over here putting them in the pen.

  • @JohnRoberts71
    @JohnRoberts71 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great content thanks for sharing

  • @raindeergames6104
    @raindeergames6104 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Man this is how I like to start my day💪🏼💪🏼

  • @parsonsenergy
    @parsonsenergy Před 6 měsíci

    Tanks Professor glad school is back in session...

  • @pockets5628
    @pockets5628 Před 6 měsíci

    They are called idle mixture screws. Not idle air screws. They do not change the amount of air in the idle circuit, only fuel coming through the IFR jets.
    Tip in is controlled by the transfer slot exposure/fuel, and the accel pump cams, and lastly squirter size.

  • @v4yt126
    @v4yt126 Před 6 měsíci

    simply the best

  • @patrickciarcia4100
    @patrickciarcia4100 Před 6 měsíci

    Love seeing the blow thru carbs, and the ⚙️ cog belt.. ahh, I’m an old dog… MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄 TO YOU AND THE FAMILY..😎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video thanks for sharing

  • @philabowl8073
    @philabowl8073 Před 6 měsíci +1

    We need a decibel meter in the dyno room!!!

  • @BrainDeadEngineering
    @BrainDeadEngineering Před 2 měsíci

    My friends dyno , he installed a gas water tank and pumps hot water through engine pre fire up. He says he get work done faster and less cold start fowling and wash down 😊 i helped him plum it . Bunch or ball valves.

  • @vincel6340
    @vincel6340 Před 5 měsíci

    Back in the day (way back), Gale Banks made 350 SBC dual blow through turbo kits. The fuel pressure was controlled by a special mechanical fuel pump with the control line going to what was the ambient side of the diaphragm. The 850 Holley was modified with throttle shaft seals. Boost was bled off when the throttle closed under boost with a simple valve located in the special air horn. However, these could no way reach the HP/cu. in. this monster has. The highest HP street kit only produced 600 HP from 350 cu. in. (5.7L). The 700 HP version was not recommended for the street. This implies the situation could have benefited from modern turbos and better heads. The max boost was about 7 (if I recall correctly), so that was a major limiting factor, as the kits were designed for a stock block. Also, 7,000+ rpm was not an option.

  • @ksart9188
    @ksart9188 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video. Tech was fantastic. Learn something every time you do one of these. Good to know the “old fart smarts” are still around!

  • @Big_Country0179
    @Big_Country0179 Před 6 měsíci

    Love your education videos.

    • @Big_Country0179
      @Big_Country0179 Před 6 měsíci

      You build some of the baddest mild horsepower units without, making the hotrod street able an manageable. Looks like a awesome for beginners, or for the novice. Love it. 6 pound's an at 5500. 😮🎉🎉

  • @harryjohnson2
    @harryjohnson2 Před 5 měsíci

    @Steve Morris Engines how about an open house one day in the spring? I am sure there are several Fans that would love to check out and tour the shop.

  • @poortouringhotwiregarage5617

    Idle mixture screws adjust the amount of an aerated mixture of fuel and air in. Idle air bleeds adjust the amount of air going into the mixture. The main fuel jets adjust the amount of fuel going in.

  • @andretorben9995
    @andretorben9995 Před 5 měsíci

    it revs to 5500 and it sounds like its barely trying, yet its putting out 1300hp. Just makes it look so easy to make power. Nice work guys.

  • @djwilliams4714
    @djwilliams4714 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Steve teacher of the trades!! What is old is different than New!!

  • @davidgraham5889
    @davidgraham5889 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Idle fuel screw. Back off a half turn makes it richer. Open an idle air screw a half turn, which makes it leaner. You almost had it correct, you correctly called it a fuel screw but started calling it an idle air screw again.

  • @jasonazbill9898
    @jasonazbill9898 Před 6 měsíci +2

    All my ProSystems Carburetors from Patrick come dead on. We have dyno proven a few times that the jetting out of the box is spot on. Not a better carb or guy out there on the market.

    • @jdias51
      @jdias51 Před 6 měsíci

      Tossed one our 383 with a single carb blower went a full pitch up on the prop and zero bog and never have touched the carb

  • @BIBSTERSrepairshop
    @BIBSTERSrepairshop Před 6 měsíci

    Another engine at the Steve morris rehab for N02 addiction getting the help it needs great video

  • @tonyking9235
    @tonyking9235 Před 4 měsíci

    STEEV ITS CALLED DIMINISHING RETURNS.

  • @just4thetruckofit
    @just4thetruckofit Před 6 měsíci

    Merry Xmas..SMX for the win!

  • @ThePJ9454
    @ThePJ9454 Před 6 měsíci

    Another amazing piece of work by Steve Morris. The only guy I know that makes too much horsepower. :)

  • @DisgustedGenXr
    @DisgustedGenXr Před 6 měsíci +1

    Where were you 10 years ago. You actually take the time to “overexplain” ( which I am accused of all the time , refrigeration tech) to make sure even the weary understand. You sir , are the man!!

  • @robmassicotte4889
    @robmassicotte4889 Před 6 měsíci

    thats YOURDYNO? Awesome to see that! I use yourdyno for my motorcycle dyno, always wondered if it was just "regular" guys like me that used them, its great to see someone of your caliber using yourdyno!! Thought for sure you would be a dynojet guy..

  • @davejames2015
    @davejames2015 Před 6 měsíci

    Old man garage had that blow through figured out!