Billy Mitchell Accuses Me Of Fraud During Insane Rant!
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The chad Player of the Century vs the virgin keyboard warrior who would never say this to Billy's face. Who will win?
I think you might have to make like 5 more billy mitchell videos for me to get the point
I’m the Player of the Century. My best friend told me I’m the best he’s ever seen play Ranarama on the Atari ST. Surely that qualifies me.
Karl, PLEASE make that into a T-Shirt. Id happily buy one to help support the cause!
ey yo why do you beg people for money when you've already publicly admitted notch is funding your legal bills? if you have a literal billionaire backing you, why should regular people give you hundreds of thousands of dollars?
After beating Billy, you should get yourself an Australian flag tie. Or an American flag tie of your own
The fact that it takes $300k to defend what's clearly a frivolous lawsuit shows how absurd the legal system is
It's in the lawyers best interest to keep it dragging out. Especially if they are filing the suit. You drain the money as much as possible to try and force a settlement. Defense tries to prevent that. So I'm almost certain Billy's lawyers are gonna be about the same cost if not more by the end.
@@theatagamer90realistically Billy is probably paying a low cost hack to drag it out as long as possible. This is how stalling tactics works. You make your opponent pay more than you.
From Karl's "We're trying to get this to go to trial". Sounds like Billy's lawyer is working their ass off to ensure the case never appears before a judge.
I don't know if it's true in Australia, but the catch in the US is that, if a case is proven to be frivolous, the judge would likely award legal fees to the defendant. If that happened here then Billy would suddenly be legally required to cover all of Karl's legal fees for this case, past and current, on top of his own expenses and on top of any other damages the judge may or may not award. Frivolous lawsuits can backfire spectacularly thanks to that.
Karl is going to have a LOT of extra cash after the Judge demands Billy pay his legal fees...
We're gonna have 300 new videos paid for out of the gate.
that's probably australian dollars though. granted, it's still a metric fuck ton.
If I had a dollar for every time Billy Mitchell lied about court-related issues, I'd have enough money to pay the legal fees Karl has been having to spend on this bs.
Let’s do the math. The suit became public October 22 last year. 301 days. Karl’s legal fees are $280,000 dollars. So for him to break even, Billy would have to tell 930 lies a day on average.
So yes. I think you’re right.
But what would you do with all the extra money? Just don't let it go to your head! Money changes people 😅
considering karl's legal fees are funded by notch, it does seem kinda sus that he's asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars from normal people, doesn't it?
You'd probably have enough to pay the legal fees of everyone who Billy has sued five times over.
and some left over to get us all pizzas for supper.
I love that Billy Mitchell exists as a standard of what not to do as a human being
I agree. I was completely lost in life and had no idea what to do with myself. But as soon as I started using Billy Mitchell as a perfect example of what NOT to do, I managed to turn my entire life around. I thank Billy Mitchell for the impact he’s made on my life, and yet I hope he never impacts anyone else’s again.
Billy must have slept with Todd todgers for a high score
While I may not be considered a saint I’m glad not to be as awful of a person as Billy Mitchell is.
Also I took screenshots of Billy Mitchell's texts about Apollo.
A real whose who of 1980s retro stupidity.
Holy shit man, didnt realize you were getting that slammed with legal fees. Keep fighting the good fight.
He isn't; claiming the fees are $300k is so fools like you keep giving him free money; he makes over $10k per week from all his revenue sources
This $150k from donations already put him over what he needs for legal counsel, by a significant amount; the grift is so pathetic, and it amazes me how people just blindly believe KJ just because he is the 'good guy' in this narrative of Karl vs Billy
(Billy is scum, btw, but it isn't black and white; KB profits massively off this).
@@85wastedyearsHello Billy Mitchell.
Hello Billy Mitchell@@85wastedyears
@@85wastedyears This is quite literally victim blaming. Please think before you speak.
@@85wastedyearssounds like you got Billy in your mouth
I think it's fair to say that the only thing more pathetic than Billy Mitchell, are the people who blindly support him.
I think that's going too far, those people are likely very unaware of the whole ordeal with Billy Mitchell, or not very active within online speedrunning circle where Billy and Karl is on
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They have cognitive dissonance
@@intrnl I don't believe that.
After all this time I've seen enough to believe those people are being intentionally malicious, disregarding every bit of evidence presented by Karl and Twin Galaxies, in order to support Billy.
And the most pathetic thing is the fact that Billy doesn't even know who most of these people are, or care about them at all. (like the youtubers who defended him)
@@intrnl
Depends on who you're talking about.
Yeah, the people on retro gaming forums or Facebook or whatever that believe Billy are just unaware and are siding with Billy by default because he's a "legend".
Prominent figures in the arcade community and CZcamsrs that support Billy, however, absolutely know all the details and are either knowingly trying to help him continue the grift (Arcade community members like Triforce Johnson, Walter Day, and Todd Rogers) and the CZcamsrs that make videos responding to Karl (like Vanburen20 and Maris Memes) are trolls who are doing it for attention and know full well that Billy is a cheater.
And yes, all of the people in the latter camps are more pathetic than Billy, because the only thing worse than being Billy Mitchell is being a minion for Billy Mitchell, lol.
I can’t get over the disgusting texts Billy sent expressing his happiness over Apollo being deceased. He’s a narcissist and a terrible human being.
wait, he was happy over apollo's suicide? can you send a link to an article?
8:48@@No_Life_Alex
@@No_Life_Alex It’s here in this video. Not too far in.
@No_Life_Alex here in the video, about 8:20 is when the texts start showing up. I don't see a link otherwise, but I'll see if I can find it outside of the video if you'd prefer that. (Understandably)
@No_Life_Alex lmfao did you even watch?
It's so fascinating watching a full blown narcissist work through a situation like this. Watching Billy handle stuff is like watching a case study.
It's surprising his lawyers still let him out on his own. But I guess there are still a lot of bootlickers out there considering the few comments that are not in support of Karl on here.
Billy's mannerisms really remind me of Tom Cruise. That dead affect with such stiffly choreographed charisma.
If this money makes Billy mad, then it's money well spent. Stay strong, Karl. We've got your back. Hopefully you can counter sue this schmuck to get your court costs covered.
He is now fyling a law suit agenst you for giving the man 10 dollars
I love that Karl is 100% just making the videos to fund his legal case and Billy knows this but he continues to keep giving Karl content. The man is actually insane
fun fact - combined views of all Karl videos that mention Billy are 13 million approx, which is less than one single badabun video.
@@RancorousSea Lol, I think you significantly over estimate how much a content creator makes. Even at the size of Karl's channel, it's good money but not sneeze-at-$280K-in-legal-fees money.
@@RancorousSea At 20:07, Karl shows the lifetime revenue for a video that currently has about 900K views, which is about $2800 (not sure USD or AUD). Multiplying that out by the 13M total views on Billy-related videos someone else claimed above, that's about $40K total in revenue from AdSense (before tax, presumably) against $280K in legal fees so far. I don't know about you, but a quarter million dollar loss is not nothing...
@@RancorousSea i mean, who else is gonna throw a sponsor at a video like this. companies tend to not want to get involved in legal disputes (no matter how outrageously dumb), i'd say let him take the obvious gatcha sponsors that (probably) make him say nice things about it, some people like these games anyway so better for them to find it through karl then some crypto-bro, or someone like billy.
@@hoo2042 you have to take into account how lucrative these sponsorships can be. With Karl’s view count I would guess he makes roughly $10k-$20k per sponsorship. Even then, at about 2.5 videos per month average it will still cost almost a whole years earnings so it’s not beyond reason that he would need assistance with the lawsuit. One thing I’d like to know is how collecting lawyer fees for a civil case would work as the rules in Australia and the United States are very different.
Apollo's death is what keeps me following the downfall of this cruel person. I get upset whenever I remember we live miles apart. What he did is unforgivable.
Apollo's death was unnecessary, and I share your sentiment
Billy didn't kill Apollo Legend. But getting sued for a million dollars sure as hell didn't help a person's mental state who was already on the edge to begin with. In the end Apollo killed himself and that was Apollo's decision. People were willing to help Apollo fight the lawsuit. I am willing to bet the reasons for Apollo commiting suicide were way more complex then Billy's petty lawsuit.
This is the first i’ve heard about this and it makes me sick that someone can be so callus about a fellow human life.
The fallout from all this is going to be epic, i hope we all get a good view.
@@the_sixxness He did make a final video which is mirrored elsewhere nowadays, and explained his situation. IIRC, his sister also came forward and confirmed it was due to his sickness and declining health. I don't think Billy or the lawsuit came up anywhere, though I'd guess it certainly didn't help matters.
@@That1MetalheadDude I watched the video. The man had the look of a person who had enough of the race and didn't want to do it another day. It's a look I have personally seen before. And you don't get that way by one thing bringing you down. You get that way from things slowly stacking up on you like a game of Tetris. And sooner or later you reach a limit.
Communities spreading the truth deserve support.
We're so close to defeating this real-life villain. We got your back, Karl!
Let’s put silly mitchel in his place
@@liam6170No No, that's Silly Bitchell😂
(To Silly Bitchell) "You give supervillains like us a bad name." - Evil Emperor Zerg
I want this whole thing to end with Billy walking out of a courthouse after losing the lawsuit and getting hit by a coincidental rolling barrel.
I will try my very hardest not to smile or giggle.
He'll wish he had been after the judge makes him pay Karl's legal expenses. Most judges are all but happy to do that in frivolous lawsuits - why do you think Billy's so desperate to get people to stop donating to the defense fund? It just keeps making his losses bigger and bigger.
Coincidental? Not advocating for violence here, but I'm sure one of the viewers here could prepare a barrel or two
@@coltglue8191 I could ask for a barrel from the local wine cellar. just let me know where the courthouse is.
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@@coltglue8191I’ll do it 🙋♀️
"This man is a liar! I never sued him twice, never! I sued him once, I *threatened* to sue him twice!"
Yeah, that's a real valorous distinction to draw there, Billy.
Billy has so few actual defenses against what Karl says he has to take what he can get, even if it's only by the barest margin of being technically correct.
I did not hit her, it's not true! It's bullshit! I did not hit her! Oh, hi Mark.
Even vanburen20 realizes billy was a liar and lied to him
I didn't realise how far off you were from your goal. Here's another drop in the bucket, I hope it helps, you Legend.
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He isn't far off at all; he has profited. Literally every youtube does this; they claim the insane donations they got 'aren't enough.'
Karl makes insane money from his channel and from sponsors; he could literally afford it himself. But they always act like they barely make enough to scrap by; it is pathetic.
You have a parasocial relationship; just because you like his videos doesn't mean he won't do something that virtually anyone else would do.... which is take insane amounts of money for doing nothing
@@pyropulseIXXI I hardly think chucking £20 at a CZcamsr I happen to like (supporting their work, and it being the first time I've done so) would qualify as a parasocial relationship. It's not that deep.
u sound jelly @@pyropulseIXXI
@@zombl337ogI am jelly of making $100k per month
I wish you all the best, Karl and a swift end to this silly saga. Thank you for all your content!
Up until now, I thought this was only about cheating and world records. Those text messages made me feel sick seeing them. Only now do I see the kind of person Billy is. Thank you for documenting all this and taking the brunt of the attack from Billy.
Same, that was fucking sickening. What a piece of human filth.
I went to the convention before realising he was there, and finding myself in the same room as him genuinely made me so uncomfortable i couldn't even look in his direction
Same! Like holy shit
@@ross3695_basedhax u shoulda punched him
Yeah I knew about the cheating scandal and him trying to sue everyone which is already petty but after Karl exposes these text messages I’m now genuinely convinced Silly Bitchell is a completely awful person with no redeeming qualities. This stop being about his video game records being removed a long time ago now it’s personal.
Here's $10 towards exposing lies and replacing it with truth, and towards pushing Billy to finally finding a new identity in life other than a 31 year old arcade score that has been destroyed for years.
It's one thing for a man to behave like this in a relative vacuum: another entirely to destroy lives with frivolous lawsuits.
Correction: 41 year old arcade score.
I mean, he definitely found a new identity, it just wasn't a good one.
His identity is now "the guy who has deluded himself that his lies are reality so much, that he's willing to damage other's lives for it"
@KennyAkaMysterion You gonna donate more or you just gonna talk
@KennyAkaMysterion They ain't giving them to you, why are you thanking them?
Give this man everything that's been coming to him. I've watched this anime saga for many years now. Overall he is a good villain but his time has come.
Thank you for your coverage as always, hope this helps. Take care.
Billy is a pretty good anime antagonist, the writers made him so unlikable and irredeemable (without resorting to stuff like murder to make him irredeemable!) and it’s excellent! Though I agree, it’s time that the season concludes and this antagonist gets defeated.
When Billy loses, I will not shed a tear. I will try my hardest not to smile or giggle.
Lmao. I love when people use Bitchell's own words against him.
Why doesn't this comment have more upvotes?
I'm gonna belly laugh
I should sue the non upvoters for defamation. @@StreetwizeJJ2
why not though, this one is actually worth celebrating
Sending money, just to piss Billy off.
His stupidity astounds me.
This comment needs more likes xD
imagine paying to go to an event to watch Billy whinge and moan into a microphone@@differentman1878 you're doing it right my dude
Send money by the Go-Fund-Me.
Google/CZcams take's half of all super chats.
Honestly, Karl probably doesn't need to ask for money any more, just post pics of those trust balances.
As a Lawyer, it baffles me how a defense can cost 280K, especially on such a simple lawsuit. Some countries legal system is completely ridiculous.
Backed you on GoFundMe and I'm rooting for you Karl, hope that you win and hope that the lawsuit backfires at him.
yeah if a simple defense costs this much it almost makes me think the justice system is kind of classist....
@zwenkwiel816 in the US? Oh f*ck yea it is.
What country you from/practicing your career in? I’m in the UK and have no idea what it costs here, never had to use it fortunately!
Mitchell is American, a Native of a Barbaric Hell-Nation
@heart_of_a_daedra3649 Portugal. To have an idea the hourly rate my office charges is 100€~150€ depending on the complexity of the subject, if the case requires a team prices would go up a bit according with the number of lawyers needed for the matter. But if you don't have means of paying for a lawyer the State will provide you one, for free.
Lawyers are expensive, but well worth it in the end. Good luck Karl!!
Admittedly, I don't know enough about the legal system myself and seeing people who try to blatantly abuse it through money and intimidation tactics really terrifies me. Mostly because it seems to work in a lot of cases. Good luck though, my dude! Hope the donations keep you going and that you can see the other side of this BS soon!
Im canadian, so american law is out of my depth, but a lot of the times, it just comes out to who can pay for better representation. The industry of lawyers as a whole was deliberately changed so lawyers could charge more.
The scariest part about the law imo, is that so much of it was made so long ago by people who wanted to exploit it, and now we just have to watch all their generation wealth recipient descendants continue to reap the benefits of the same system. I say serve em up, it's dinner time.
I cannot fathom having to sink $280,000+ into defending oneself from such a frivolous lawsuit. Keep up the good work Karl!
The only people winning in this mess are the lawyers.
Which is where you also counter sue for court fees and lawyer costs.
@@SashaBlueMoon The lawyers, the firms, the courts. And the bullies with more money than brains. American court is a legal system. Not a justice system.
@@Unethical.Dodgson Why you say America if the lawsuit is in Australia.
@@callak_9974That's standard procedure in the UK, and since Australia is (for now at least) still a member of the commonwealth it is likely the case there too.
its insane that a person can lie about another person and use the legal process to ruin the other person financial. what a messed up world this has become...
Always has been.
That’s only in us.
@@nikolaiownz but Karl is australian. so its not only in US?
@@TheSykoRC Australia is basically a British version of America 🤣
"has become"
you know this isn't anything even remotely new, right? Look yes, the world sucks right now, but can we stop pretending the world was some super nice, lovely place until 20 years ago?
I've become so fascinated by this. I'm so glad that you're not being intimidated into silence, it's so clear he's just trying to intimidate you/bankrupt you to back down. So glad you're fighting, and taking us along for the ride.
This situation totally reminds me of the Truebones case where a man livestreamed himself living in a fantasy with his lies about copyright fraud attacking anyone who dares speak the truth about his scam including myself. I do not know whats wrong with these peoples brains but its really frightening to see that this kind of lying actually works for some of these predators because the average person would and could not expect such a flagrant level of deception. We live in a generation of people wearing the American flag as a cover for deeply unpatriotic and criminal behavior and I can't wait to be out on the other side of this watching our kids generation debunk these methods of manipulation.
Rules for thee and not for me, seems to be the rule of thumb now. Which is pretty despicable behavior.
billy: "I couldn't care less about Karl"
also billy 2 seconds later: *stands up to give a whole damn essay whining about how karl "defamed him"*
"I couldn't care less about Carl.... and that's why I filed a lawsuit against him"
@@alexandruandros1271 lmao
As an American, I'm proud to support you in your legal defense against Billy
How much did you donate?
@@elburto5387 Go away Billy
@@elburto5387In my eyes, it doesn't matter. Every little bit helps.
@@NerfPlayeR135I think they may be doubtful that *any* money was donated. 😂
Words of support 😉
I was at the NERG convention and was at the panel, I didn’t know as much as I know now but knew enough to check that no money for ticket sales would go to Billy (a few people had already asked about this). I was sat behind the man in the audience he kept pointing to when making his points, for some reason he picked him out, must have been weird for that guy!
Bless him Walter fell asleep a couple of times (you can see him nod off at the beginning of the footage and looks to be asleep when you see him at the end, he must have heard all this stuff so many times!) and the hostess was most likely primed to a degree, she mentioned having met him the night before, but she came across so nervous and uncomfortable throughout that I felt a bit sorry for her.
She also seemed to be from a pro-wrestling background, she mentioned a couple of terms and said something like ‘in our world we would call that a sell’ or something to that effect I can’t remember exactly.
It’s not in the video but at some point he started reading out personal messages he received from someone apologising to him and being wrong about him? Can’t remember who it was exactly but just felt like a really weird thing to do, like reading them out word for word.
Overall I would say the feeling I got was Billy taking the opportunity to try and get some people who aren’t in-the-know onto his side, how many people bought it I can’t say but I took it all with a pinch of salt, so much I had to go straight to the shop to buy more!
I would say the actual convention was really good with lots of games to check out and play if you’re in the area when it’s next on.
Keep being you, Karl. You make awesome content, and I hope this lawsuit will end soon for ya.
Apollo is the one who showed me who Billy Mitchell is, and I follow this all in hopes we can bring just a small sliver of justice to what Apollo was put through. Especially with how Billy acted about his death… it just makes me feel sick. I am ready for when you take Billy down a peg.
Well said.
Idk billy built his own tower of Babel off his lies so falling a peg is understating it. That snake is going to fall in what seems like an eternity. And the whole gaming community will be there to see the fall
@@SHADOMEGA7569 even if he loses the lawsuit that won't scratch his ego. He'll just act like (or even believe?) the world is against him, like it's a big conspiracy to take down the gamer of the century because everyone's jealous of the title.
@@plasticflower what's he going to do then, sue the world? Cause that will definitely make him look bat shit insane even to those both blind and deaf.
@@SHADOMEGA7569 No idea if he will try to drag the legal procedures out even more. And yes it seems insane, even now. But I don't think that he will ever oficially admit anything.
He seems like Donald Trump, in that he'd sooner claim a grand conspiracy against his person than accept a loss.
You nailed it on the head with “I’m the only thing keeping him relevant.” Billy screwed with the wrong guy and didn’t expect it to get this far.
Exactly. What a looser. He reeks with dishonesty.... Come on Billy! Sue us all!! 😂
Exactly he’s the only one still talking about him while he’s actively defending his lawsuit
And maybe that’s because the other guy he legally bullied has passed away (Apollo Legend)
Something he didn’t technically cause, but definitely had a hand in (his s*icide)
I'm sure in Billy's mind he thinks he's winning. It's going to be a huge surprise to him when the court rules against him. He'll probably go straight into "the judge was bribed" bullshit afterward.
Hi Karl, I'm a year inn in my own shitstorm.. Got sued by my old boss. It has been so hard on me, it costs so much money to defend yourself and all the lies really gnaw on you. The amount of stress and unease I can really relate to buddy. I won the trial but here in Norway you can just disagree and we get new judges and now I'm on round two... so here I am again.. I really hope you win this buddy! Notorious liars need to pay in the end!!
Why are you on round two?
They simply did not agree with the verdict, and now I have to defend myself again. First round was a civil case with 1 judge, now I have to face 8 judges.. @@Alex-gg9ht
The scumbag boss probably appealed it @@Alex-gg9ht
Maybe Karl can chip in with your case?
I just came out from a lawsuit where my ex didn't hesitate to lie and make up stories to make me look like a bad father in the eyes of my family, friends and even court. I recognize so much of this behavior that Billy shows up aginst you and everyone else. Thankfully the truth always wins. Stay strong, Karl. Much love from me and my little girl❤
A few things to unpack here: Billy is about as honest, and his video game records are about as legit as those of one Todd Togers. Real men, Awesome men play Missile Command. Billy isn’t Video Game Player of the Century, Charlie is Video Game Player of the Millennium, and lastly, Billy calling me & everyone else out, just for helping Karl, who has told the truth about Billy Mitchell from day one, is just gonna make me help Karl some more!
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You ever look at a mirror and say "man, what an absolute legend" ?
Lol, Todd Togers. Never gonna let him live that down eh? good....good....
@@frijolitoazul4343I do, but then I realize it's not a mirror and I'm just watching a Karl Jobst video.
Mr. Awesome vs. Silly Bitchell cage match
At first Billy Mitchell was just someone I remember being referenced on Regular Show when getting high at a friend's house. When I got into speedrun history and coverage it was mind-blowing what he did and what his reputation was. You and Apollo Legend have been among my favourite content creators on this platform, and I don't want to see him bully and try to ruin anyone else. He's an immature and disgusting person. Thanks for sticking up for yourself.
Holy shit i forgot he was on there
@@i_fuze_hostages6The clip at the beginning of the video felt like getting hit with a truck 😂 shit's wild
R.I.P. Apollo Legend.
@Nikku4211 Indeed. And just for the record, Apollo himself stated his suicide was not over anything on youtube or the lawsuit nonsense. His sister also says as much, he considered youtube and online drama totally different from real life. So, while I think Billy is one of the biggest scumbags out there right now, let's not assign him any more blame than is factual. There's still plenty he deserves.
@@Jrez Might not have been the direct reason but it's hard to say it didn't make things harder.
4:25. Has anyone noticed Walter Day in this time stamp!? Anyone else notice the body language, the stare, that facial expression!? Am I the only one who thinks Walter may be emotionally and spiritually dead on the inside? It looks kind of haunting.
I wish I had the extra money to help you out with this. You’re coverage of the topics you choose including billy are always accurate and fair. I hope that you are able to seek your own claim for damages after the court ultimately rules in your favor. Good luck Karl!
I absolutely cannot wait until the day that the "Billy Mitchell Has Lost" video drops.
Keep fighting the good fight, Karl - it's a shame defending yourself from this nonsense costs so much
Bros gonna get sued for millions
Hey Karl, I just wanted to say we’re all in your corner! Billy is hoping to wear you down morally and financially, but you’re doing a hell of a job fighting back!
The 30K$ is just crazy. If the number were so high every little channel could live from that. Sure less clicks, less money, but still crazy. 🤪
The fact that Billy said that thing about trying not to giggle at someone dying TWICE says a lot. It means that it wasn't just an impulsive message he sent, it was something he planned and felt proud enough to repeat it. I've seen that behaviour IRL and it's disgusting. These people have no morals and honestly believe that being a massive POS is something to be proud of. I hope you bankrupt the vile little worm.
It’s like Tommy Tellarico and the, “my mother is very proud.” joke he always makes.
Absolutely disgusting.
Yea and I lowkey feel like that was such a small part of the vid and that’s like super serious
Billys birth certificate was an apology letter from the condom factory.
There are some people who I won't mind seeing die, because they'll make the world a better place. (Billy's working hard at being in that category.) But I'm sure as hell not going to giggle in happiness when they do. I'll just feel a sense of relief that they're gone. Laughing about someone dying, even someone absolutely horrible like a serial killer, is sociopathic behavior.
I fully think Billy Mitchell is a major component in Apollo’s death. He’s a vile monster. Legitimately sociopathic and horrible. Undeniable. Unredeemable. Billy deserves to suffer so much. Apollo wasn’t a saint by any means but he had his whole life to be better. And now he’s gone. How utterly revolting.
Yeah, I watched his videos on the information about the TG scandal. But he was a questionable guy at the best of times in the community. Still BM crossed some lines with what he did hounding a kid with lawsuits and personal attacks. He's pissing himself over Carl because he knows he has the support of his fans and is an adult himself.
@@TKUltra971 "A questionable guy at the best of times"? I will never understand people like you who talk shit about people they've never met and clearly know nothing about. But then again, you can't even spell Karl's name right, so maybe you just don't care about things like "details" or "facts" and prefer to parrot shit you see other people say.
@@LoseirdoOh wow, I guess he struck a nerve eh?
@@LoseirdoThey were talking about Apollo Legend not Karl you dingus.
This perfect dark soundtrack got me feeling nostalgic
I found your channel looking to show some of Apollo Legends videos to a friend recently. I figured they were taken down from the lawsuit, and was disappointed with that... but i had no idea he died as a result (direct or otherwise) of Billy suing him. So this video hit me like a truck full of bricks.
I dont know much about your channel, aside from what ive been browsing thru recently, but i truly hope you can put him through his own personal hell as a result of this; losing his notoriety and breaking his public image down into a fine dust, and bonus points if he ends up financially damaged as a result.
Got one more rooting for you now Karl.
You know why Billy is so mad?
Because he discovered that he is in fact, NOT, nor will he ever be, an absolute legend.
Best comment so far 😂
New intro; "Hello you Absolute legends! ... and Billy mitchell"
Underrated comment
I guess I should be careful or Billy might sue me too. :(
If one cannot achieve immortality through significant achievement or contribution, there’s always the option of becoming a legend through extraordinary failure.
At this rate, Billy seems like he might become a legend…ary epic fail.
The fact that Billy has the time to press charges against someone for simply stating facts and damn near financially crippling them is absolutely crazy bro.
'charges' are criminal. This is a civil suit
this goblin must be a trust fund baby or something. I can't wrap my head around the fact that he might actually be a sucesful business man
he's a classic narcissist. the only person Billy hates more than himself is probably Karl 😂
@@esoteridactyl Exactly. You can't just sue someone and send them to jail. You go to the police for that. Even then, the threshold for winning a civil suit is typically far more lenient than a criminal trial.
welcome to america the land of frivolous law suits
Are Australian defamation cases more similar to those in Britain, where the alleged defamer has the burden of proving they _didn't_ defame, or more similar to those in America, where the person alleging they've been defamed has the burden of proving that they were? (Or are they different entirely?)
16:24 ah shit, a red joystick again
I like how while filing the defamation lawsuit, Billy casually incriminates himself with extortion. If there's one good thing about narcissists, it's the fact that their egos are so fragile that they think the law should bend to their feelings. It doesn't.
Sometimes it does though, sadly. The western world needs a thorough restructure of our legal systems. So much of them are controlled by money and are extremely biased, especially unfavourable towards men.
Thats not narcissism. Thats sociopathology unlike anything I've ever heard of. This guy is destroying lives with zero regard for anyone but himself. Lets hope he is swiftly prosecuted and, at a minimum, mandated to psychiatric therapy in the hope of resolving his mental problems so hopefully his destructive behavior will cease.
@ledspen Narcissists are inherently sociopathic because they cannot or will not see past their own motives. The trait means more than just being in love with yourself, it has to do with a complete inability to emphathize to a destructive degree. I agree that I hope he gets dealt with accordingly by the law.
@@wildmooseking There's obviously a great deal of overlap between narcissists and sociopaths but they are not necessarily mutually inclusive or hierarchically related.
The sociopath is typically much more manipulative and controlling, capable of engaging in social behavior but almost exclusively as a means of controlling others.
The Narcissist, on the other hand, has an inflated ego/arrogance/sense of grandiosity/etc that is not necessarily diagnostic of a sociopath. A narcissist also much more likely has a severe victim complex and a complete inability to accept any form of criticism, constructive or otherwise.
While the sociopath knowingly lies to others with the explicit goal to manipulate, the narcissist lies to themselves more than anyone, and by the time they tell their lies to other people, they believe their own lies to be true.
Again, they have a lot in common, such as extreme self-centeredness and lack of empathy for others, but the narcissist has a delusional sense of grandiosity coupled with a victim complex that the sociopath does not necessarily have. And the sociopath has a manipulative/controlling side that the narcissist doesn't necessarily have.
As someone from the town NERG is in, a lot of us didn't go this year (i'll never go again) because they had him as a guest. Why they thought it was a good idea to book him god knows, but a lot of us stood with you Karl and the others he tries to intimidate. Much love from Gateshead 👍
I thought the intro lady had a Geordie accent lol. Hate that this happened up here paying this bellend money to lie on a panel...
respect my friend i am from the UK and a tad annoyed he thinks he can come here to try this... please yes boycott this forever unless they provide a public explanation and apology for this
I'd have just tried to throw a raw fish at him knowing this shit now.
I was wondering why it was so quiet when he stood up to speak.
I would have gone just to heckle the bastard
If Billy's effort with the lawsuits were applied on Donkey Kong instead maybe he actually could have beaten the world record. He really doesn't know when to quit.
Walter Day looks like someone that’s thinking - why do I have to be dragged around for this shit…
There's something funny about suing a documentarian who specializes in debunking lies about very specific niche subjects. It's like trying to poison someone who specializes in antivenom, in their own lab.
If nothing else, we get a candid and deep look into what building a defence case looks like. Keep it up, karl, we are rooting for ya!
I'm gonna be "that guy". Antivenom wouldn't do shit vs a poison.....sorry 😂😂😂
@@19822andy Hey "That Guy". Semantics aside; "Antivenom for Venom" and "Antidote for Poison". We all knew what they meant...
Nice analogy
@@19822andynobody likes ppl like u
It's like trying to point a gun at someone at the gun store who sold you the gun and knows it's not loaded.
I'm still so confused how Billy can afford all these lawsuits
He has a rich family backing him.
He and his family own a fairly successful restaurant business in Florida.
also, wasn;'t he a sahdy businessmen with companions that would kind of conspire on fucking peopel out of their money? which wre most of the same willing to cover for him on his other bullshit claims, like all his witnesses just happen to be people that are shady as fucking all shit and connected with im for at least 20 years ? :D
or was that todd togers?
i think it was billy, he has that slick sleazy conman atttire that makes a car salesman look fucking honest
todd looks more like a 70s porno actor, then again didn't roald dahl mathilda's have a dad the shitty car salesman which had this same 70s porno stash look ?
Case solved thx for info
He doesn't pay anything. His lawyer is his good friend
It was Apollo who introduced me to speed running content on CZcams. I had watched Twitch live streams, GDQ and stuff like that before but no content made about it. For this I’ll always be grateful. He was and still is an absolute legend ❤
Honestly, i didnt know billy mitchell existed until i started watching your channel. Thank you karl for giving us quality content and let us know how people like this do exist.
"...and you've given him $180,000!"
Billy, buddy, listen very closely. If i had the money I'd give Karl a million dollars to fight you in court. We're more than happy to give Karl whatever we can, not just because we like Karl so much, but because we hate you even more.
"It's possible to get someone to lie for $30,000." So is it possible that Billy could lie for $150k, and then lie even more for another $450k? 🤔
@@abandonwareguru Well Billy would know.
As a random person on the internet, I hereby certify Karl Jobst as an expert on everything that's happening between him and Billy Mitchell. 🇦🇺
You are unknown person thank you
Now he can finally win the lawsuit lesgooooo
Well said
As another random person, i verify this.
as another random person, i also verify this
wtf... i can't believe that there's even this sort of event in the UK that would invite him along.... like.... who over here even gives a shit? XD
It's so important that you fight this and don't just take the easy way out.... keep it up Karl... your the man
CZcams recommended the hell out of this video until I eventually clicked on it. I'm so glad I finally watched it, you're fighting the good fight my guy. I barely ever donate for something I saw in a YT video but from one Aussie to another, I couldn't leave without putting a few drops in the bucket. Best of luck in the legal battle, I have faith you'll mop the floor with that POS. From the looks of the GoFundMe, you've got *lots* of people rooting for you!
I love a few things about Australians. Your grandmothers (scary ass, loving badasses), your fruit bats, and your tenacity of uncovering the US's worse humans. Bless Frost, and bless Jobst. Y'all are basically like a combo of West coast US and the midwest combined, with some south east in you. I love it.
The tribal nationalism is strong with this one
No one can convince me that his million dollar lawsuit against Apollo wasn't the straw that broke him. To be depressed and maybe suicidal already, and then be handed that abomination, it would be too much. It's not something that can be claimed as a murder in court by legal definitions, so he's free to laugh and go on with himself over it, but that doesn't mean it's not what happened. It was such a shame.
Maybe abetment of suicide maybe
I believe the same,
I agree wholeheartedly
Is there a video going over the context of this?
"Apollo is learning what a good lawyer can do" - Robert Childs
This is my first time watching you in almost 3 years and I can’t believe this lawsuit is still ongoing
"You could get ANYBODY in this room to lie for $30,000"
Okay. You didn't cheat. Where's my 30k
And now we know why Billy lied about his DK scores: Because someone gave him 30K.
It's funny that this is where Billy's mind immediately goes to. The reason for that is if he had a spare $30k he'd definitely use it to pay people to lie for him. Freudian slip by Billy.
It says something about his supporters, but nothing good. Clearly Billy thinks they're all scumbags who'll lie for money.
and billy would know, he probably only paid that softball mouthpiece bitch a grand to do his bidding lol
It’s really interesting to think about how these videos will be played in a court room. This takes some of the heavy lifting off of his lawyers to make this simple for a jury or relevant judge.
How can you prove he lies and cheats? Show these videos and site your sources.
Keep up the great work Karl!
I love how blatantly non tech savvy he is in those texts. Hilarious! And the hypocrisy EVERYWHERE. Boomers like him leave and I will jump for joy.
He must really be winning that crowd over the way he's pointing at them accusingly while telling them, "Then _you_ donate money to a scammer who's lying to you to hurt me."
Such a charismatic guy, isn't he?
I was thinking that too! What an aggressive way to speak to an audience and alienate them?
Great at thinking things through in general
Billy:
"...and you are so silly that you donate money without any knowledge or background.."
*Points finger at audience.
Karl: "Hello, you absolute legends".
I was also very confused by that. I'm not sure if maybe he prefaced it by saying "I am talking to all you haters out there on youtube" or something like that or if he's actually that far gone off of a cliff. Was bizarre.
At 11:47, Billy points at someone and says “you’re the guy i pick on,” so I think it’s alright.
I’m not defending Billy though.
I'm terribly sorry that Billy has prolonged your trial. He knows exactly what he's doing. He wants you to run out of money in the hopes that you can no longer defend yourself. With this community by your side that's not happening anytime soon. We know you will win this battle!
The more obvious that becomes, the more likely the court would have the other party recoup the costs.
@@zanequillarts9050true dat
Karl running out of money.. Like that's ever going to happen.
So how the fck does Billy haven't his much money? And why would he spend all this money to literally only make his money back, or maybe even lose some? Get this; Jobst literally profited from thee donations, but CZcamsrs and influencers always inflate the 'legal costs' in order to make it seem like they needed all that money.
In reality, Jobst just got over $150k for 'help' that will cost, at most $50k
he has his fans convinced that the lawsuit doesn't exist
4:37 the guy in the left looks so done with life.
He reminds me of the character Sandy in Along Came Polly. He became famous for one thing and never moved on. He's still stuck in those early years of his prime and it's quite sad.
"It's possible to get someone in this room to lie for thirty thousand dollars."
The paid off lady next to BIlly nods
"It's not something we should do."
The paid off lady has a silent existential crisis.
Lmao😂
Imagine having to spend 280 THOUSAND dollars defending yourself from this ridiculous, up himself, lying sample of a human being.
All the best to you and your family ❤️
That's almost a twentieth of the cost of a house nowadays!
Where does Billy get the money for it??
Hopefully you can countersue for legal fees or something like that.
@@maxstrWhere does he get the money it's from all the years of lying that he accumulated over the years as soon as Thursday rolls around I'm going to donate to this guy's GoFundMe page truth will prevail in the end ✝️
How does that even work when Karl lives in Australia.
When this is all said and done. I hope someone compiles all videos Karl has done in one go and can sit back and watch!
I love how you make it like one of those educational videos from back in the day around 10:10 where you say "knowing what we know about Billy" it's like ok pause, write your answer down, then the teacher presses play and hey I was right the complaint definitely mentions video games. Easy A.
Billy wants to pretend you make money just by mentioning his name. The reason you are successful is the insane level of detail and fact-checking you do. Any random could slap together a video like "OMG Billy Cheated!" and it wouldn't mean anything, but if you put up a video I know you'll bring the receipts.
At least none of the other subjects of his videos like the Minecraft or Guitar Hero guys never tried to sue
Imagine suing someone for defamation, and then publicly defaming them. Like HUH?! With how Mr. Mitchell is acting you could counter sue and probably win lol.
WTF!? I didn't get a notification when this video went up. I only noticed that it was the next recommended after watching the Hades 64 heat record vid
Man, Walter Day looks miserable.
Bigtime
NERG has been going for a while and *was* something I attended. They had massive backlash over Billy & Walter attending and I've heard had their lowest ever attendance because of it. Their social media was inundated with complaints and people (me included) boycotting the event.
He also did a livestream at a local arcade bar and I know a staff member there who said that also resulted in complaints and people saying they wouldn't be coming back in.
If he's costing these people money, especially in today's economy, I doubt he'll be invited back 😊
I wonder about that, how much influence does that shill woman have?
What the hell were they thinking inviting him in the first place, that's the problem. I'm also from England, so I know smaller events can get a bit desperate for guests but good grief he shouldn't have even been close to viable.
Can confirm, was part of the social media questioning their choice of guest
Yeah, I remember seeing the adverts for it on Facebook. I won't lie, I was tempted to go simply so I could see the shenanigans unfold, but there was another event in Newcastle going on later on in the year that I was more interested in, so I figured I'd not bother. Saves me a little bit of train fare.
Boy I'm wishing I did now, because this is...something else.
Billy is literally the embodiment of "He lied as naturally as he breathed"
It's honestly like he's deathly allergic to telling the truth. It's so wild.
When you've based your entire career and life on a lie, you really don't have much of a choice but to double and triple down and hope everyone just believes it.
But Billy made his bed, now he can go lay in it.
Unfortunately, there are more people like him, and some even in positions of great power - Sadly they often seem to find lots of ignorant yes men.
Love is War reference pog
Maybe Billy just wants Karl to subject to him and his whims so that he doesnt have to confess his feelings first
Thing is, the guy isn't even a good liar. He says things that are incredibly easy to disprove, as Karl illustrates time and time again. A skilled liar wouldn't make such mistakes, Billy is simply a charismatic person who knows how to project confidence. But his ability to lie is pathetic as he says literally only what he thinks the other side wants to hear and what will make him look the best, exactly like Karl points out himself as well.
I personally know a person who is indeed a really good liar, he's so good he made me second guess myself even though I knew the truth. Also funnily enough he was unable to convince his parents later in life that he was lying to them in the past, they wholeheartedly believed it all and though he is trying to pull their leg after so long. And just to set the record straight: he is not a bad guy, he just has a knack for it and his childhood situation has led to him developing those skills and learning how to lie convincingly.
@@RiskOfBaer The guy is telling big lies all the time with a straight face. It leaves you with no other options than to just believe him or walk away. In a way it makes sense why some people would believe him, because "why would somebody lie about this so much for seemingly no real reason?"
People like Karl try to challenge his claims and Billy goes nuts. It's clear that people haven't called him out on his BS earlier in life and he can't handle it. A strange, somewhat sad case this Mitchell fella.
Billy "Is It Hair or A Hood" Mitchell
“Oh boy another sponsorship”
“Nvm wtf 280k??”
It's going to really suck for Billy when he has to cover your legal costs when he loses the judgment.
Genuine question, does he have that much?
@@valgarlienheartHe seems to be able to afford the costs for his own lawyer so far, so there seems to be something to get.
Billy may try to screw him over by going with a payment plan instead of a lump sum.
@@TrueMohax that would just mean Karl gets the equivalent of a free wage
He have to sell a lot of hot sauce..
I like how Billy Mitchell, time and time again, says that you can pay someone to lie.
Sounds like personal experience.
Freudian slip. He'd do it if he had the cash to.
Maybe he's astounded by that since he's used to doing it for free? Allegedly.
Unrelated to video comment: i still admire that you use Perfect Dark background music. That was my all time fave N64 game growing up. Such nostalgia each time i hear it
If Websters dictionary put Billy's picture in there as the only definition of the word "douchebag", I'm quite sure Billy would brag about himself being published in a "Worldwide publication" or something.
Your Billy Mitchell content is entertaining! Literally the only reason I know Billy exists is your videos. The guy is ridiculous.
Haha 😂❤
No its not entertaining
Right!? He should be thanking Karl! I can't believe there's people that admire Jimmy. Talk about getting better idols!
@freestyler2223 maybe not to you
@@Cove_Blue and maybe to you it is, but I really don't see anything entertaining in it
I was at this convention at Gateshead Stadium. It was truly embarrassing, both the convention and this rant. Being from the North East of the UK and knowing he was going to be there after following this whole debacle was magical to witness. The part they didn’t show or tell you is why they addressed you in the first place. The woman (Lindsey) isn’t just shilling, but another guy forced her hand when he called Billy out for the Apollo situation, something that bitterly and subsequently triggered him. Also, since when did Walter Day start calling himself the “Grandfather of Esports” 💀
We shouldn't be giving a platform to twits like him in the UK. There are plenty of unsung gaming legends in the UK who still haven't told their stories. Thanks for the context.
Well it looked like Walter Day was falling asleep in his chair during Billy's rant @ 5:01 , so the "grandfather" part may be somewhat fitting 😂
I would like to apologise on behalf of the whole north east of England that that press conference exists
@@medea27 That plus the annoyed glance Billy risks at the poor guy around 16:55 👌
I came to see if anyone else had mentioned the woman being a shill... Just watch her facial expressions/body language around the 13:04 mark or so where he's saying "Its possible to get someone in this room to lie for $30,000..." LOL!
Just catching up with your story. I hope you and your family are ok. Doesn't sound like you have anything to worry about in the long run, but the journey is always the hardest part. Take care my friend ❤
"No one wants him around"
"ha i have 1 friend! Thats defamation buddy and im gonna sue you.. again"
"If I stopped talking about him, no one would care about him ever again. He is a disgraced cheater that everyone hates. No one wants him around, and I'm the only thing keeping him relevant."
That was so well said I had to watch that part back like three times 🤣
"I'm not locked up in this courthouse with you... you're locked in here with _me."_
If Billy watches these videos that one's gonna sting for a while cos the thing about people like him is deep inside the narcissist knows the truth, and that makes them hurt more than they can cope by bullying others.
I know it's not much, but I really respect your journalism. Keep up the great work my friend.
I’m honestly amazed that through all this Karl has had the restraint to not mention that ridiculous rug that’s been sewn to his head! Does he really think people believe that’s real hair?!
Billy is nearing the end of his rope. And it seems like he can’t stop lighting it on fire whenever he can. All his cases are just about to wrap up and he has no idea what to do.
I think Billy needs to stop squirming and just take the loss, because this is getting tiring. Anyway, always love your videos, and the Pac-Maniac in me is enjoying this history in the making. Keep us updated on the Silly Bitchell saga, and put this towards the court fees, you absolute legend!
"May thy enemies be blue and edible"
-Reverend Shoebox
just taking the loss isn't enough anymore. he's cost enough people enough money for that to be the case.
That quote is only applicable to people with blueberry allergies, and almost nobody has that.
@@jameskelly-smith1279 It's about how pac-man can eat the blue ghosts.
@@satiricalzero I know.
Sounds like a good time for a countersuit for defamation. If he's hurting your legal fund by lying, that is serious damages he's on the hook for.
He'd need to be able to afford that too.
@@RaceBanditI’m not sure if you mean Karl or not but if you do, he might be able to get that pro-bono given the literal evidence in the video. Could be worth a shot maybe
@@Zvasrasuch a slam dunk case, definitely sounds like there would be a lot of lawyers interested in this pro-bono
Probably not pro bono, but in the US a you might get your lawyer to do it on contingency. Don't know Australian law.
Honestly, I don't even think Billy would have the money to pay him back, even if he probably spends the least he can on legal fees, I can't imagine that these endless lawsuits aren't siphoning out his money