The Biggest Conmen In Video Game History Strike Again!

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  • @literallyshaking8019
    @literallyshaking8019 Před 3 lety +3255

    If Todd Rodgers is “Todgers” does that mean Billy Mitchell is “Bitchell”? 🤔

  • @CriticalNobody
    @CriticalNobody Před 3 lety +7480

    Todd Togers is actually the evil twin brother of Rogers and all of this is an elaborate setup to ruin him. That’s my canon.

    • @Eurynomos326
      @Eurynomos326 Před 3 lety +180

      Someone needs to make a Todd Rogers vs Rodd Togers cut like the Roe Jogan ones.
      Also, where I'm from a Todger is a part of the male anatomy. Not to mention, Rodd.

    • @Prawnsly
      @Prawnsly Před 3 lety +8

      Does anyone remember the Captain Todger sketch from Mitchel and Webb?

    • @cwp24
      @cwp24 Před 3 lety +2

      Talk about a hilarious fail on his part. 😂

    • @alkaupadhyay7650
      @alkaupadhyay7650 Před 3 lety +6

      Todd howard

    • @Shorty_Hutch
      @Shorty_Hutch Před 3 lety

      As long as he stays away from our beloved splinter cell..

  • @here4good
    @here4good Před 2 lety +1040

    "I sued them. Not just the men... but the women and children too"

    • @chlebu955
      @chlebu955 Před 2 lety +10

      Nice job youve got a heart from the legend himself!

    • @sir3127
      @sir3127 Před 2 lety +4

      Nice reference my buddy

    • @fedbar
      @fedbar Před 2 lety +7

      I heard he has also sued the unborn (this is a joke)

    • @sir3127
      @sir3127 Před 2 lety +8

      @@fedbar glad you explained, you were about to trigger a hundred people rn 🤣

    • @aoshi9254
      @aoshi9254 Před 2 lety +9

      @@fedbar Thanks for explaining that it was a joke, I was about to type a 420 paragraph essay about why you are a bad person for saying something online about someone else which was very rude and everyone would be mad. Nobody could had ever realized that that was a joke. It's so good to the point were I took it seriously and was about to sue you for a random comment you made online just because of a joke, but I changed my mind all thanks to your comment saying (this is a joke).
      By the way, (This isn't a joke). I seriously believed that you should be arrested for doing something as bad as this.

  • @balzache
    @balzache Před 3 lety +695

    Hearing about Billy Mitchell holding back "giggles" from pushing a man to suicide makes "World Record for Biggest Piece of Shit" a more appropriate title then any of the records he's clearly cheated on.....

    • @ryanong3517
      @ryanong3517 Před 2 lety +17

      He's the longest record holder for that.

    • @davidwarford3087
      @davidwarford3087 Před 2 lety +5

      I just want to point out that these were ENTIRLY separate occasions. Him celebrating his death was a false alarm long before Apollo killed himself. Still horrible but nothing to do with suicide.

    • @projectpitchfork860
      @projectpitchfork860 Před 2 lety +48

      @@davidwarford3087 He still was happy about the false assumption of somebody having commited suicide.

    • @propheinx2250
      @propheinx2250 Před 2 lety +2

      As much as I want to agree, there's yet still bigger pieces of shit out there. Just like EA isn't actually the worst company in America, there are worse people than Billy Mitchell.

    • @stephenheffren4324
      @stephenheffren4324 Před 8 měsíci

      "King of C***s"

  • @L1me
    @L1me Před 3 lety +802

    Todd Togers is actually not a misspelling of his name. It's just the way the name comes out when you start typing in second gear.

    • @NintendoSunnyDee
      @NintendoSunnyDee Před 3 lety +4

      33 likes ain't enough

    • @ClebyHerris
      @ClebyHerris Před 3 lety +1

      I feel like it’s an actual technique that suing a person has. If they get backed into a corner they point to the name and say it wasn’t me. Or if it is dumb just go “nah wasn’t me”

    • @ausaskar
      @ausaskar Před 3 lety +18

      We call it the "human element".

    • @jackjohnson9055
      @jackjohnson9055 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ClebyHerris I mean it's going to be hard to claim if he shows up to the courthouse and tries to go through with it

    • @ClebyHerris
      @ClebyHerris Před 3 lety

      @@jackjohnson9055 no like if it’s a bad argument he can just say it isn’t his

  • @bane2201
    @bane2201 Před 3 lety +1411

    The fact that Billy Mitchell is responsible for Apollo Legend going into debt - which was a factor in his suicide - is INFURIATING.

    • @calamorta
      @calamorta Před 3 lety +315

      The fact US justice system actually forced a random internet teen (my mistake, apparently apollo wasn't that young) to pay him money is such a comedy
      edit: technically he didn't lose it, but still had to pay lawyers and so on. Justice truly is built to protect the wealthier.

    • @kaylanbuyukcetin5274
      @kaylanbuyukcetin5274 Před 3 lety +185

      "Billy Mitchell is responsible for... his suicide"
      Fixed that for you. I think, in my opinion, it was the main factor.

    • @zxGHOSTr
      @zxGHOSTr Před 3 lety +50

      @Stellvia Hoenheim Shocked me too to hear about his death... was thinking the same about the uploads.

    • @vedaryan334
      @vedaryan334 Před 3 lety +13

      Don't think so . He had other issues too.

    • @lonewolffang
      @lonewolffang Před 3 lety +17

      I didn't even know. Damn shame.😔 Mitchell is only worried about his ego being bruised. May he rest peacefully.

  • @ImCarpet
    @ImCarpet Před 3 lety +892

    I've been a fan of Apollo Legend for a long time. I wondered why he hasn't uploaded in a while and when you said he took his own life my heart stopped.. I had no idea. That's seriously heartbreaking. I already hated Billy Mitchell, but now I can't even express how much I hate him.. what a terrible fucking person. I'm so sad now. RIP Apollo Legend

    • @cw2002
      @cw2002 Před 3 lety +43

      Yep, I had to rewind and listen to it again to make sure it was AL he was talking about. Can't believe it! I wonder what Iillness he had. Very sad.

    • @MrMars-sx3db
      @MrMars-sx3db Před 3 lety +78

      You should see the comments of his latest video. So many trolls and Billy Mitchell bootlickers endlessly bad-mouthing him

    • @ImCarpet
      @ImCarpet Před 3 lety +66

      @@MrMars-sx3db Yes I've seen.. Some kid was even posting videos making fun of his death. So disgusting and just sad tbh

    • @V-for-Vendetta01
      @V-for-Vendetta01 Před 3 lety +38

      there is a good amount to unpack here.
      i was similarly angered by karl's video. i have always and will continue to hate mitchell.
      but the implication that billy was ultimately responsible for apollo's suicide is far fetched and so is the claim that he had to pay mitchell money for settlement (no proof of this yet; mitchell claims he has papers backing up the fact that no transaction had occured, but mitchell is a compulsive liar and i take his words with a grain of salt). unfortunately, mitchell has latched on to the this very sentiment and wants to sue jobst for these 'defamatory' claims which is derailing the entire course of action. mitchell must have most likely seen that a better case would be if he could prove that there was no transaction between him and apollo; hence he wants to proceed with this 'lawsuit' rather than the donkey kong one which he is 100% destined to lose. jobst should have been a little more careful while throwing those words as there was no real proof pointing towards any cash settlement.

    • @rangergxi
      @rangergxi Před 3 lety +32

      The suicide video cites chronic pain and his friends betraying him as the main reason. Billy laughed about it, but did not cause it.

  • @i69GrzzlyBears
    @i69GrzzlyBears Před 3 lety +1290

    Billy Mitchell legitimately said that he would try not to smile or giggle at Apollo's suicide simply because he was exposed for cheating at a video game. Truly pathetic man.

    • @ChiefMedicPururu
      @ChiefMedicPururu Před 3 lety +107

      Except Billy's comment was from BEFORE Apollo's actual death, but it's still a massive dipshit move.

    • @fivefierce8754
      @fivefierce8754 Před 3 lety +108

      @@ChiefMedicPururu Doesn't matter if it's before or after, even if you are under a false assumption it's still your genuine feelings. Believing someone has passed and expressing joy, and someone actually passing and expressing joy, are fundamentally the same thing.

    • @ChiefMedicPururu
      @ChiefMedicPururu Před 3 lety +30

      @@fivefierce8754 Hence the "Still a massive dipshit move" in my comment.

    • @RedArremer
      @RedArremer Před 2 lety +10

      @@ChiefMedicPururu Hence Five Fierce saying it doesn't matter about the "Except" part.

    • @charcoal4742
      @charcoal4742 Před 2 lety +15

      The fact that Billy's official statement/video (which btw everyone should save it cause theres a good chance he'll delete it) only talks about how no money was exchanged between the two and doesn't even mention him laughing about apollo's death is sickening

  • @KrinkelsNG
    @KrinkelsNG Před 3 lety +4415

    I enjoyed you calling him Togers for the duration. Very nice.

    • @Apnael
      @Apnael Před 3 lety +37

      Man love your work, keep being awesome.

    • @needamorecreativename
      @needamorecreativename Před 3 lety +14

      I thought it was funny and cool. I also enjoyed it

    • @rinzler9171
      @rinzler9171 Před 3 lety +24

      Madness

    • @shadowx2229
      @shadowx2229 Před 3 lety +15

      Never thought I'd see you here

    • @bundo13
      @bundo13 Před 3 lety +27

      Isn't Todger slang for a donger in British English as well? lmao

  • @vladimir8891
    @vladimir8891 Před 3 lety +4367

    Holy shit, I didn't know Apollo died. That's fucking horrible.

    • @sparkychan123
      @sparkychan123 Před 3 lety +807

      @@DonutPyro-np2mq when you feel like you're trapped and have no other choice, you tend to do that.... but if it hadn't been for Billy's threats, I HIGHLY doubt he ever would've gone through with it.

    • @Sanyo201
      @Sanyo201 Před 3 lety +713

      @@DonutPyro-np2mq
      What is wrong with you?

    • @tulipelily9373
      @tulipelily9373 Před 3 lety +251

      I didn't know either... I'm heartbroken wow

    • @papabones8753
      @papabones8753 Před 3 lety +363

      IKR? I heard about it a while ago, still feels kinda unreal, he was the first person I found talking about speedrunning ages ago and he's sorely missed.

    • @davidwhidden9337
      @davidwhidden9337 Před 3 lety +285

      @@DonutPyro-np2mq Hey man. When you go, I hope you go happy and not drowning in yourself pity.

  • @C64_Mat
    @C64_Mat Před 3 lety +326

    "He claims he has witnesses, but none of them ever come forward.
    Because they are imaginary."

    • @Aeviu
      @Aeviu Před 2 lety +15

      he has witnesses, they just go to a different school

    • @birdsnestisstupid
      @birdsnestisstupid Před 2 lety +5

      he has witnesses before his pills

    • @nicwelch
      @nicwelch Před 2 lety +7

      Nuh uh! They live in Canada! You don’t even know them!!

  • @Cyberbrickmaster1986
    @Cyberbrickmaster1986 Před 3 lety +304

    Regular Show really knew what they were doing when they parodied Billy Mitchell in one of their episodes!

    • @danielarputharaj9918
      @danielarputharaj9918 Před 3 lety +10

      Never watched it, looks hilarious to see that jackass memed to shit

    • @slygamer136
      @slygamer136 Před 2 lety +34

      @@danielarputharaj9918 to sum it up, the blue jay (mordecai) and raccoon (rigby) beat the ever loving shit out of everyone on that game, shooting for the universe record until Garrett bobby Ferguson (the big head parodying mitchell) confronts them and tells them he has that record, convincing the crowd enough to ignore mordecai and rigby and respect gbf, so the two of them challenge him in a round that ends with him pleading in sympathy for them to forefeit since the score is all gbf has, they do, but he lied and destroys their pride and respect in turn until the bros realize they have an extra life, trying to both beat the record and keep away gbf, thus kicking him in the nuts, winning all the respect, and gbf exploding into goo lol.
      Just watch 'high score', my explanation doesnt do this justice

    • @danielarputharaj9918
      @danielarputharaj9918 Před 2 lety +5

      @@slygamer136 sounds amazing

    • @amberdeyuliis7886
      @amberdeyuliis7886 Před 2 lety +1

      Damn I forgot about that episode

    • @GAshoneybear
      @GAshoneybear Před 2 lety +1

      The thing is if Mitchell had kept his mouth shut, most viewers wouldn't have known that and just thought of it as a funny design. I would guess that 70% of Regular Show viewers had never even heard of Billy Mitchell when they watched it.

  • @tyeikenberg8938
    @tyeikenberg8938 Před 3 lety +1132

    "He wrote his name wrong on the lawsuit" proceeds to call him the wrong name the whole video like an absolute legend!

    • @JojoushiPWI
      @JojoushiPWI Před 3 lety +14

      He will proceed to blame the "human element".

    • @uptown710
      @uptown710 Před 3 lety +5

      Loved the fact he kept that going 😂

    • @theonetrueac
      @theonetrueac Před 3 lety +2

      Kept me laughing throughout..

    • @oldgolfpunk
      @oldgolfpunk Před 3 lety +9

      Legally with that wrong name its a failed law suit. As the others can legally say we called Mr Rodgers scores fake. Not Mr todgers.
      In law every single word is critical rite down to its spelling. Even correct punctuation is necessary or you can loose everything.

    • @Hauntaku
      @Hauntaku Před 3 lety +5

      @@oldgolfpunk You spelled "lose" wrong

  • @gonzo7758
    @gonzo7758 Před 3 lety +1404

    When he is counter-sued: "I didn't file a lawsuit, Todd Todgers did."

    • @AliensAreNoobs
      @AliensAreNoobs Před 3 lety +40

      That idea reminds me of when Digital Homicide (a studio of two people) went after Jim Sterling, got shut down immediately, then kept repeating over and over “erm technically it wasn’t digital homicide in that lawsuit, it was only [insert whatever that dude’s name was]”

    • @catboygremlin
      @catboygremlin Před 3 lety +7

      @@AliensAreNoobs James and Robert Romine

    • @steeveedee4307
      @steeveedee4307 Před 3 lety +13

      Hysterical to see someone has donated $1,000 in the name of 'Todd Togers'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @Leonard0F41G
      @Leonard0F41G Před 3 lety +1

      @@steeveedee4307 Holy shit what a genius

    • @AlienGenotype
      @AlienGenotype Před 3 lety +1

      First thing that came to my mind lol

  • @comske8111
    @comske8111 Před 3 lety +230

    I feel bad for David. He tried his best to defend Mitchell and prove him innocent and in the end Mitchell betrays him because he couldn't do it. It's impossible that it wasn't on an emulator and David found that out during his own research.

  • @CptJistuce
    @CptJistuce Před 3 lety +315

    Tell you what, there is some serious emotional whiplash here moving from "Todd Togers misspelled his own name in legal documents" to "Billy Mitchell basically killed a man and then gloated about it."

    • @jojolafrite90
      @jojolafrite90 Před 3 lety +14

      Yeah. I know. Can't like a lot of people force the American system in any way to look in details into all Mitchell did? And force him to pay money to the families of those who's life he destroyed, some of these did die at least partly because of him and his actions, so he should pay money to the victim's family.

    • @incumbentvinyl9291
      @incumbentvinyl9291 Před 2 lety +4

      @@jojolafrite90 That's rather hilarious to be perfectly honest.
      You must think law works the way you see it in movies and sitcoms.
      Welcome to the real world.

    • @subtleusername5475
      @subtleusername5475 Před 2 lety +12

      @@incumbentvinyl9291 wrongful death lawsuits are a real thing you clown, it's not unheard of.

    • @KnakuanaRka
      @KnakuanaRka Před 2 lety +3

      Billy didn't influence Apollo killing himself, but still, laughing after hearing someone killed themselves is fricked up.

    • @testerwulf3357
      @testerwulf3357 Před 2 lety +3

      @@KnakuanaRka He did, He was a cause of it. Sure he wasn’t the MAIN reasons but he still likely contributed as who would of guessed that harassing and threatening to financially and socially wreck someone with a bunch of people in their comments shitting on them would of further wrecked the mental health of someone suicidal and in poor mental health!?

  • @demounit
    @demounit Před 3 lety +3092

    The fact that you keep calling him Togers is killing me

    • @nukadraco9942
      @nukadraco9942 Před 3 lety +89

      I mean, he called himself that so i dont blame him

    • @SuperNuclearUnicorn
      @SuperNuclearUnicorn Před 3 lety +187

      Disappointed we didn't get Bitchell for Billy Mitchell. It was right there

    • @nukadraco9942
      @nukadraco9942 Před 3 lety +84

      @@SuperNuclearUnicorn Silly Bitchel

    • @salmon85
      @salmon85 Před 3 lety +39

      todger, slang for penis
      :D

    • @someguy34hnt
      @someguy34hnt Před 3 lety +9

      Now all we need is Bimmy Mitchell (Y'know? Bimmy And Jimmy? Double Dragon 3? lol)

  • @CYMotorsport
    @CYMotorsport Před 3 lety +2875

    Mate. “Togers” got a giggle EVERY second time. Great call there 😂

    • @CommissarMitch
      @CommissarMitch Před 3 lety +39

      Rod Togers is at it again.

    • @paulbailey5087
      @paulbailey5087 Před 3 lety +24

      Toggers

    • @selvamantony5711
      @selvamantony5711 Před 3 lety +25

      @@paulbailey5087 Poggers

    • @cyborgste
      @cyborgste Před 3 lety +7

      Oh hey cranky yanky, nice to see you here.

    • @keryst
      @keryst Před 3 lety +17

      When he said Togers at 6:35 I lost it and had to rewind. Missed 30 seconds from cracking up.

  • @Guitarman1275
    @Guitarman1275 Před 3 lety +121

    As an attorney, I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed this video. And misspelling your client's name in the complaint might be the most embarrassing thing a lawyer can do. I am genuinely gobsmacked at this lawsuit. Genuinely sanctionable.

    • @fatfr0g570
      @fatfr0g570 Před 2 lety +5

      @@JuliusCaesar888 Yeah, I don’t know any 14 year old attorneys. Even assuming they haven’t updated their channel description since it’s creation 13 years ago, 27 years old is astonishingly young for an attorney, almost unbelievably so.

    • @liamcdm3689
      @liamcdm3689 Před 2 lety +7

      @@fatfr0g570 Is it though? One would be 25 by the time they graduated law school and by 26 they'd most likely be in practice.

    • @testerwulf3357
      @testerwulf3357 Před 2 lety +7

      @@fatfr0g570 27 is a very normal starting age for one.

    • @PartnershipsForYou
      @PartnershipsForYou Před 2 lety +1

      Todd Togers, bro

    • @Guitarman1275
      @Guitarman1275 Před 2 lety +1

      @@fatfr0g570 Hah it is quite normal to be a practicing attorney in one's mid-to-late 20s. Most folks graduate law school around 25-26.

  • @selanryn5849
    @selanryn5849 Před 3 lety +348

    Has no one filed an anti-SLAPP suit against Mitchell yet? He's exactly what they were meant for.

    • @chameon378
      @chameon378 Před 3 lety +34

      To my knowledge Billy would need to mis-place one of his accusations into the wrong state court system for an anti slapp suit to actually apply to him, as antislapp litigation is not at the federal level. However, I am not a legal expert, I've merely listened to a few who have made similar claims as well as survivors of likely slapp suits.

    • @Shyguyexplores
      @Shyguyexplores Před 3 lety +5

      Yes I was wondering the same thing myself, if the anti-slapp legislation covers federal court or just State Court? I would think that it is the federal court system which was being abused with these frivolous cases, but I could be wrong because I haven't checked into the actual law itself just see what it says. That's always the best way to check validity of a claim, to look at the actual law or at least put a link up here for people to click to see the anti-slapp law?

    • @ex3111x
      @ex3111x Před 3 lety +2

      You know Billy Mitchell was wrote to by Ronald freakin' Reagan, and named game player of the century by the makers of this. All these investigations and you are finding more to 'speculate' about, but nothing to certainly surmise any conclusion towards, leaving the speculation in the hands of emotional viewers. I may not like him, but he has skill. And guess what too, we have the right to the legal system, you have the right to a lawyer, and you don't need to spend money on it to pollute the legal system that people so deride.
      Maybe I think it's time this generation's viewers actually grow up for a change. Get over it, or better yet learn to get your head out of the scourge that is cancel culture. It's only convenient to accuse but not to defend in this day and age.

    • @s0shadow
      @s0shadow Před 3 lety +106

      @@ex3111x you're not going to convince anyone that you aren't a fraud, Billy.

    • @bluishwolf
      @bluishwolf Před 3 lety +5

      @@Shyguyexplores Only in state courts. And only the states that have it, obviously.

  • @themocaw
    @themocaw Před 3 lety +1433

    ". . . and Apollo Legend eventually took his own life."
    Okay. I was annoyed at Billy Mitchell before. Now I hate him.

    • @George_Kush
      @George_Kush Před 3 lety +117

      That hit me hard... I just learned that holy shit 😥

    • @grey3247
      @grey3247 Před 3 lety +25

      @@George_Kush Same...

    • @robhimself1985
      @robhimself1985 Před 3 lety +17

      Same

    • @TheLemonyBard
      @TheLemonyBard Před 3 lety +149

      The fact that Mitchell was happy is what gets me. I knew about Apollo Legend and basically everything leading up to his death, but THAT is news to me and makes me beyond furious.

    • @ztarx7990
      @ztarx7990 Před 3 lety +59

      Duuude.....Holy crap. I thought Apollo just vanished.

  • @geegee2925
    @geegee2925 Před 3 lety +665

    Imagine playing a part in bullying someone to their death and then celebrating. There’s being a bad dude and then there’s Billy Mitchell.

    • @Mrcake0103
      @Mrcake0103 Před 3 lety +86

      Holy shit. I literally just found out that Apollo’s dead.

    • @jongyon7192p
      @jongyon7192p Před 3 lety +29

      Billy even caused him to commit suicide

    • @crabking3525
      @crabking3525 Před 3 lety +7

      Yeah I was about to comment that he literally sued a dead guy.

    • @Fusion4687
      @Fusion4687 Před 3 lety +2

      I did too how are these lawsuits going thrue?🥺😖

    • @metalghostT4E
      @metalghostT4E Před 3 lety +26

      @@jongyon7192p believe it or not, this is actually a crime and can be charged with manslaughter for this

  • @BrainSlugs83
    @BrainSlugs83 Před 3 lety +125

    I'm sure Togers didn't lie about his scores; he just "misspelled" them. 😂

    • @Voidling242
      @Voidling242 Před 3 lety +6

      And has a bad memory so he just reads the "misspelled" scores.

    • @malcovich_games
      @malcovich_games Před 3 lety +6

      5:51 is the same as 5:57 in a blurry enough photograph

  • @XarmenKarshov
    @XarmenKarshov Před 3 lety +71

    I just realized, Billy's new lawsuit against Karl is being prepared a week before his birthday. I know it's most likely not going to happen beforehand, but I would want nothing more than to see Billy's birthday present being shutdown after decades of lying.

  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater Před 3 lety +1034

    "Judge declares Billy Mitchel is "not a giant floating head" contrary to popular belief."
    Best headline subtitle ever.

    • @CLOYO
      @CLOYO Před 3 lety +24

      His head is too small for that (and it's contents)

    • @TempDevil
      @TempDevil Před 3 lety +5

      so wait
      dude isn't kaos from skylanders?

    • @georgesracingcar7701
      @georgesracingcar7701 Před 3 lety +2

      cheezemonkeyeater.
      Best name ever.

    • @EnforcerX71
      @EnforcerX71 Před 3 lety

      Everyone knows William Shatner is the only Big Giant Head.

    • @cheezemonkeyeater
      @cheezemonkeyeater Před 3 lety +4

      @@georgesracingcar7701 My name is literally the username equivalent of a shitpost, because I initially got this account to be a troll when I was young, dumb, and ugly and couldn't be bothered to make a new account now that I'm slightly older, modestly less dumb, and moderately more ugly.
      But I'm glad it amuses someone.

  • @taipenn2358
    @taipenn2358 Před 3 lety +322

    Todd Rogers: Prepare for trouble.
    Todd Togers: And make it double.

  • @marshalmathers5669
    @marshalmathers5669 Před 3 lety +70

    Klassy Karl is such a professional.
    Despite all of the "human element's" temper tantrums, Karl still shows proper respect and addresses him by his preferred legal name of "Mr. Togers" throughout the entire video.

  • @lawuploadsonceinabluemoon9913

    "If you want to become legitimately good at something, unlike the subjects of this video..."
    The shade, I love it so much

    • @Voidling242
      @Voidling242 Před 2 lety +2

      The subjects in this video are legitimately good at filing frivolous lawsuits.

    • @BeepBoopBee
      @BeepBoopBee Před 2 lety

      Ikr. That segway to the sponsor part was brilliant 😂

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR Před 3 lety +594

    Shout-out to repeatedly calling him "Togers" after bringing up that he misspelled his name

    • @MikeandKatieShow
      @MikeandKatieShow Před 3 lety +20

      I was going to comment on this. Was so subtle but hilarious.

    • @techaid1940
      @techaid1940 Před 3 lety +4

      @@MikeandKatieShow indeed XD

    • @cubegame
      @cubegame Před 3 lety +5

      Every time he says togers I smile

    • @ElronHumpperdink
      @ElronHumpperdink Před 3 lety +3

      I didn’t even notice it like I should’ve til I read this and stopped scrolling... lol it’s funny for sure.

    • @Nysyarc
      @Nysyarc Před 3 lety +3

      Karl's legendary deadpan delivery was the icing on the cake of every "Togers" too. Had me chuckling.

  • @MrTheMasterX
    @MrTheMasterX Před 3 lety +440

    I don't have the nicest things to say about Apollo, but saying "I will try my hardest not to smile or giggle," because the guy that had habitually mocked you whom you indebted with a bogus lawsuit *committed suicide* is genuinely sociopathic. What a piece of trash.

    • @DonVigaDeFierro
      @DonVigaDeFierro Před 3 lety +59

      I thought Mitchell was a con artist and a loser... Now I think he's an absolute piece of shit and I wish him bad things because he deserves them.

    • @phishphan49
      @phishphan49 Před 3 lety +13

      Finally a reasonable take

    • @ZSpieg
      @ZSpieg Před 3 lety +6

      What did Apollo do?

    • @phishphan49
      @phishphan49 Před 3 lety +33

      @@ZSpieg blamed ezscape and darkviperAU for his decision after being adamant about denying help prior to his departure.
      It's pretty shitty to put that evil on innocent people that you wrongly attacked...

    • @user-hp6pj4sy3k
      @user-hp6pj4sy3k Před 3 lety +19

      What I'm wondering is why did Apollo even settle with Billy Mitchell? I remember he posted the video about Billy's lawsuit, then set up a Gofundme, and he was able to raise enough money to counter-sue Billy pretty quickly. And he probably would have won the lawsuit-Billy had no case and Apollo had plenty of allies. Very sad. Hopefully Karl Jobst's lawsuit will teach Billy a lesson.

  • @MillywiggZ
    @MillywiggZ Před 3 lety +83

    “Todgers”
    If he just went by the word above as one word he has speed runned his own name at least.

  • @fordxbgtfalcon
    @fordxbgtfalcon Před 3 lety +167

    This is so funny because he will forever be known as “Todd Togers” for the remainder of history.

    • @Panzer_Runner
      @Panzer_Runner Před 3 lety +15

      Surprised he didn't spell his own name Rodd Togers

  • @jackotherstar
    @jackotherstar Před 3 lety +407

    I know Apollo Legend wasn’t the best guy, but Billy expressing happiness over his death is just sickening. He and Togers need to be stopped.

    • @Bubbly_Dragon
      @Bubbly_Dragon Před 3 lety +54

      @@thegrasswhistle5238 He blamed another CZcamsr for his suicide apparently. I generally don't fault people for their last words before they kill themselves though, and frankly if that's the worst thing anyone can find on the dude he wasn't that bad

    • @wombatcat26
      @wombatcat26 Před 3 lety +56

      @@thegrasswhistle5238 he also defended Nazis in the speedrunning community. Still doesn't mean he deserved to die, or that his suicide should be celebrated.

    • @yilvoxe4017
      @yilvoxe4017 Před 3 lety +48

      @@wombatcat26 This is the correct take. Apollo deserved to live a full life and learn and change as all humans do. RIP.

    • @mayborneflower
      @mayborneflower Před 3 lety +29

      @@thegrasswhistle5238 Basically Apollo became kinda reviled by other speedrunners for spending more time acting like peak cancer Keemstar and LeafyisHere (each of whom have generally mellowed way out) than actually running games, having a raging hate boner for Games Done Quick, had ongoing friendships with legitimate Neo Nazis, and repeated tried to get DarkViperAU cancelled for previously broadcasting and calling out his bullshit in videos. Also, the funny haha skits where he cosplayed Billy Mitchell while meeting the real guy in person included textbook examples of harassment and as well as attempts to illegally record him.

    • @Aereto
      @Aereto Před 3 lety

      There's only one way to fix that. But no one has the willpower.

  • @OmoiSenpai
    @OmoiSenpai Před 3 lety +1934

    Yo what? Apollo Took his own life?! Where the hell was I at?
    Damn, that sucks =/

    • @DragonMals
      @DragonMals Před 3 lety +54

      Yeah...

    • @AncapOtaku
      @AncapOtaku Před 3 lety +302

      i was shocked as well i knew billy was a terrible man i didn't know he was a total scumbag tho

    • @OmoiSenpai
      @OmoiSenpai Před 3 lety +293

      @@AncapOtaku For real. It's really strikes me that he was such a head in the speedrunning community for those videos, but when he did what he did 4 months ago, like, I didn't hear a word or anything for the most part.
      Screw Billy Mitchel for real though.

    • @Astronic
      @Astronic Před 3 lety +70

      Did Apollo the speed runner kill himself?! Because of the law suits??

    • @midnight-fox7456
      @midnight-fox7456 Před 3 lety +307

      @@Astronic While it wasn't the only reason, Billy's lawsuit forced Apollo to take a massive debt in the bank, leading to money problems. This, combined with his already deteriorating health and smaller youtube dramas, is what finally broke him, which made Apollo commit suicide.

  • @KubanKevin
    @KubanKevin Před 3 lety +159

    Drove Apollo Legend to suicide and expressed joy at the thought? Well then Billy, it is now too late to turn back. I think you have a lot more to worry about than just counter-suits.

    • @donutman6313
      @donutman6313 Před 3 lety

      when did he say that?

    • @TKUltra971
      @TKUltra971 Před 3 lety +9

      Nah, Apollo killed Apollo. During the whole Billy lawsuit he had massive fan and those who were disgusted with Billy's actions full support. He offd himself due to illness and not being able to do what he said he was going to do when suddenly almost 100 grand appeared in his GoFundMe account over night. He cracked under the pressure and couldn't juggle his health, the lawsuit and his other personal issues. This is why he caved into the lawsuit and removed the videos, refunded (or tried to) the GoFundMe money then got backlash about that on top of Apollo's own shitty online history (he wasn't exactly a good guy himself).
      Billy or his son now goes around on social media or silly boards like 4chan boasting and bragging how it was a win for them, Apollo had to settle due to defamation and lying on Billy and how Carl is next after a supposed video he had to edit to remove a clip from Apollo's now deleted video. To sum it up all nicely Carl isn't Apollo. And im more than sure he'd have a lawyer paid for by his viewers easily. You know it's all bullshit, the man spends more effort giving out lawsuits then he does proving he can do the score again.

    • @TKUltra971
      @TKUltra971 Před 3 lety +25

      @@Mudlink Way to twist the facts and bullshit, so lets take those down one by one
      1) Billy continued to pressure and harass all leading up to Apollo's death. Not only that but his groupies did as well. Comment sections, social media you name it. It was uncalled for. Not to mention how he was a total snake with the whole visit to discuss the board swap video. When billy in that video tucked tail and ran in his office leaving Robert Childs to take the heat. Silly. They did it also to Tipster when he first covered the topic before he revealed himself to be a clown.
      2) No one cares about billys Twitch channel. He got what? A mil? That wasn't the score that he claimed to have. And too little too fucking late.
      3)Karl isn't the only source of information on this mess. And there are quite a few people who has a grudge or dislike of him.
      4) All the time during the TG investigation he never worked with them to present any evidence to defend himself. But stood in a corner in FL.
      So the Tldr? Billy's full of so much shit his eyes are brown. He's what? 60 now? Let this shit go and retire somewhere. Also you're dishonest yourself. I strongly hope you aren't hopping around on accounts going from video to video. Apollo wasn't the first to notice billys shit nor was Karl.

    • @rangergxi
      @rangergxi Před 3 lety +4

      The suicide video cites chronic pain and his friends betraying him as the main reason. Billy laughed about it, but did not cause it.

    • @TKUltra971
      @TKUltra971 Před 3 lety +7

      @@rangergxi He was a part of the reason and yes he did use quite a few dirty tactics to put on that pressure.

  • @asdfhklljfztvvw3686
    @asdfhklljfztvvw3686 Před 3 lety +61

    If it's a good judge he will rule: "Togers Integrity shall be reinstated, Rogers however is declared a fraud. BAM!"

  • @CalebTRBLX
    @CalebTRBLX Před 3 lety +540

    The fact that after talking about Todd Rodgers lawsuit where he misspelled his name he called him Todgers for the rest of the video, absolute legend lol

    • @BrenTenkage
      @BrenTenkage Před 3 lety +16

      it also protects him, since if Rodgers decides to sue him for reporting this, he can't be sued since he is talking about "Todd Todgers" who is on the form

    • @asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068
      @asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 Před 3 lety +3

      @@BrenTenkage Ye, that's not how it works :P

    • @BrenTenkage
      @BrenTenkage Před 3 lety +2

      @@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 oh I know, its just funny

  • @thenarrator6846
    @thenarrator6846 Před 3 lety +551

    Karl: "Billy Mitchel still exists."
    Me: "What?!"
    Karl: "There's more."
    Me: "No..."

    • @kerbe3
      @kerbe3 Před 3 lety +32

      This is Billy Mitchel
      Dear god
      There's more
      No

    • @miu4826
      @miu4826 Před 3 lety

      Rick grimes : KARWLL

    • @Przymiot
      @Przymiot Před 3 lety +2

      Same. I used to follow the whole thing closely but stopped once he took down the videos. Had no idea about this, very mindblown right now

    • @crittersandmore6918
      @crittersandmore6918 Před 3 lety

      Its FIREBLASTER! and it's totally tubular!

    • @SuperJumpBros
      @SuperJumpBros Před 3 lety +1

      Me: He looks like the Guy from Pixels who also cheated on Donkey Kong.......
      Wait

  • @Foxwolfred
    @Foxwolfred Před 2 lety +13

    It’s so weird that Rodgers claimed to have this amazing score but yet never would prove it on camera when asked and the few times he did he could barely get a score closed to it

  • @Rezver
    @Rezver Před 2 lety +19

    Some say that his quest to do a lawsuit 100% run still goes on.

  • @randys2669
    @randys2669 Před 3 lety +498

    Imagine being a judge for major lawsuits, like making serious decisions in important injury and malpractice cases, and once a year or so you're like "dammit the guy who keeps suing people over his high score is back."

    • @illdeletethismusic
      @illdeletethismusic Před 3 lety +38

      "i am a judge, and my hobby is judging lawsuits"
      "that sounds a bit monotonous"
      "oh no, for work i judge serious cases, but my hobby cases are dimwits suing over their gaming scores not being taken seriously"

    • @newyardleysinclair9960
      @newyardleysinclair9960 Před 3 lety +4

      I know. Its sounds so petty.

    • @kargaroc386
      @kargaroc386 Před 3 lety +1

      Not sure if judges get to pick the cases they hear, but most of the things I read suggest "no, but there are exceptions"

    • @dycedargselderbrother5353
      @dycedargselderbrother5353 Před 3 lety +6

      If you've ever watched something like Judge Judy it's probably not so strange. People go to court over stuff like "wind makes trashcan lids fall off" and "I want the olive oil in divorce". I realize it won't be a small claims court this time, but the judges will have seen it elsewhere.

    • @four-en-tee
      @four-en-tee Před 3 lety

      And on top of all that, your score still gets demolished by some random asian guy who plays in his free time.

  • @reversal
    @reversal Před 3 lety +730

    6:33 “It does state that Togers” you got me rolling Karl 🤣🤣🤣

  • @fengshuimma9160
    @fengshuimma9160 Před 2 lety +27

    If only he’d use the drive he has, to grind games instead of lawsuits, he might actually hold a world record 🤷🏽

  • @damp8277
    @damp8277 Před 3 lety +35

    I just cant see him not as a giant floating head. Thanks Regular Show

    • @Valigarmanda
      @Valigarmanda Před 2 lety +1

      To me he's just a shit Peter Dinklage impersonator.

  • @ProBotGamming
    @ProBotGamming Před 3 lety +857

    I can’t believe that Todd exposed his true identity, Todd Togers.

  • @jbvarghese1993
    @jbvarghese1993 Před 3 lety +267

    Oh my God, Apollo Legend....I didn't know...Rest in peace...
    Holy shit.

    • @Epicgaming454
      @Epicgaming454 Před 3 lety +24

      I didn’t know that either I feel so bad

    • @MouldGaming
      @MouldGaming Před 3 lety +24

      I hope karma catches up to Billy for this

    • @Epicgaming454
      @Epicgaming454 Před 3 lety +3

      @@MouldGaming yes

    • @andreschaves523
      @andreschaves523 Před 3 lety +3

      Same here... Billy's messages are fake, however, as they show a 2018 date

    • @sturmifan
      @sturmifan Před 3 lety +22

      @@andreschaves523 they're not fake. these are from back then. nothing to do with ApolloLegends real death. still so dark that i just want bill midget to realize that what he does is stupid, and turn of his internet. tod todgers is just trying the midget scheme

  • @benhurley02
    @benhurley02 Před 3 lety +112

    Billy Mitchell killed Apollo legends. That’s so sad dude. Like I’m tearing up that’s like such a horrible thing...over video game scores this man robbed someone of all his money and his life...someone needs to put him in his place ASAP...

    • @radiazkilfonte3607
      @radiazkilfonte3607 Před 3 lety +1

      Also a cautionary tale for all of us. iirc, Apollo already had a mental illness before he went into a very stressful & controversial topic of "exposing cheater". Your health priority should always be one step above your work.

  • @SpitefulAZ
    @SpitefulAZ Před 3 lety +25

    Billy Mitchell actually made a response on CZcams for the first time. This is a historical event!

    • @JSchaffer214
      @JSchaffer214 Před 3 lety +8

      Yeah, because for ONCE Billy Mitchell has a legitimate gripe in the eyes of the law. Unfortunately, this is a lawsuit he could actually, possibly, win. Jobst has no proof that Mitchell had anything to do with Apollo's suicide. While I believe most of us can probably agree that his frivolous lawsuit against Apollo likely made his mental stress even worse, it's going to be very, very, VERY difficult to prove that in a court of law. Especially when Apollo specifically blamed others for the reasoning behind his suicide.
      I can't stand Mitchell either but this could end up being a significant blunder on Jobst's part. Mitchell now lives to sue people so the second he has even a sliver of hope for successfully suing someone, he's going to do it!

    • @SpitefulAZ
      @SpitefulAZ Před 3 lety

      @@JSchaffer214 i think there's a good chance Billy is telling the truth about there being no monetary agreement between him and Apolo Legend and that's the only thing he will want to disprove. Everything else about him has been true, except for that one particular detail.

    • @thedarkderp2520
      @thedarkderp2520 Před 2 lety +6

      @@JSchaffer214 I'm sure Karl knows this he didn't accuse Billy of being the cause he just mentioned the outcome of their lawsuit and Billy's respone to Apollo's death

    • @HoneyBadgerVideos
      @HoneyBadgerVideos Před 2 lety +5

      I don't think expressing your suspicion someone's actions contributed to someone else committing suicide is illegal.
      Even if they turn out false.

    • @SpitefulAZ
      @SpitefulAZ Před 2 lety

      @@HoneyBadgerVideos someone could prove that promoting such a belief is defamation or slander.

  • @mechatyrants6218
    @mechatyrants6218 Před 3 lety +455

    The saddest possible life is suing everyone in sight for saying you didn't hold a Donkey Kong world record 30 years ago.

    • @IMaRUPG
      @IMaRUPG Před 3 lety +28

      especially when you faked the record lol

    • @t.dmattocks6119
      @t.dmattocks6119 Před 3 lety +24

      Not to mention killing someone over it. Dudes a monster.

    • @bradydavis5791
      @bradydavis5791 Před 3 lety +4

      I mean, life could get sadder than that....

    • @sulemandawood5955
      @sulemandawood5955 Před 3 lety +8

      @@bradydavis5791 it can t get more pathetic

    • @IMaRUPG
      @IMaRUPG Před 3 lety +4

      @@bradydavis5791 its an expression mate, calm down

  • @idkman-rr3bm
    @idkman-rr3bm Před 3 lety +234

    Billy Mitchell is such a sad man. Getting a high score 30 years ago is literally his life achievement and he can't move on.

    • @Chill_Valentine
      @Chill_Valentine Před 3 lety +39

      Those scores are his entire brand, how he markets his barbecue sauce, why people even know that exists etc. Not defending Mitchell because he’s absolutely a fraud, but I can definitely see why he’d so ardently fight to make his fake scores legitimate.

    • @gressorialNanites
      @gressorialNanites Před 3 lety +13

      Also, apparently fighting for those scores has been nothing but bad press and good money for him. That's a trade many would go for.

    • @dans4635
      @dans4635 Před 3 lety +4

      hes 100%a gigantic fucking loser, he has no life clearly

    • @paradoxzee6834
      @paradoxzee6834 Před 3 lety

      At least Mitchell have a score on a well knowed game.
      What does Todd Rogers have?
      A perfect time on a game that no one cared back than and even less now

    • @kevinf8439
      @kevinf8439 Před 3 lety +15

      Wrong. He achieved no high score. He achieved nothing.

  • @WarlockX4
    @WarlockX4 Před 2 lety +4

    I think Togers submitted a score of 5.57 originally. But someone at Activision messed up and printed his score as 5.51. After that Todd just ran with it thinking, "If Activision put that number and they're the authority I'll just go with it." But the lie grew so much he couldn't tell the truth.
    Our he's just a slimy liar. Either/or...

  • @RobertWCrouch
    @RobertWCrouch Před 3 lety +18

    Genuinely did not know that Apollo took his own life and am sad to hear the news. I enjoyed his meeting Billy, it made me laugh and hope that maybe Mitchell wasn't a super villain. Obviously a false hope. There's so many people in our community that support each other, so my hope can't be entirely diminished by a couple of entitled jerks.

  • @brianbernstein3826
    @brianbernstein3826 Před 3 lety +120

    "I will do my best not to smile or giggle." Billy writes this in response to Apollo's suicide? Pure. Evil.

  • @un-for-given
    @un-for-given Před 3 lety +889

    Billy be like: "Yo Togers, come sue people with me so I don't look like a dumbass."

    • @ebofthechill8008
      @ebofthechill8008 Před 3 lety +40

      "Got you fam..... so what are you wearin-"
      *billy hangs up*

    • @rockstar-5934
      @rockstar-5934 Před 3 lety +5

      This comment is underrated.

    • @javierrodrigo1009
      @javierrodrigo1009 Před 3 lety +14

      Now they both look like dumbasses 😎

    • @TheGleely
      @TheGleely Před 3 lety +6

      I guess the defendants ARE his little togchamps

    • @ultimatesquatchington
      @ultimatesquatchington Před 3 lety +3

      I'm honestly wondering if Mitchell came talked him into doing and offered to pay his legal fees.

  • @thewardenofoz3324
    @thewardenofoz3324 Před 3 lety +18

    Had no idea about Apollo Legend. He was a big part of how I learned about Mitchell and other game record fraudsters. I read that he butted heads with some folks from the speedrun community as well. I hate that he took his life.

  • @KCCKirby
    @KCCKirby Před 3 lety +19

    I wanted to say I respect you so much for removing the portion about Apollo's passing. I know was hard and Billy's video he posted was dumb. Hell, he said they reached a settlement, flashed a folded paper. Makes me think of the "Arcade Board swap" for DK and DKJr. Billy may have driven Apollo to what happened, even if money wasn't spilled.

  • @otter9581
    @otter9581 Před 3 lety +256

    "I'm now of the opinion he is legitimately evil" careful there Karl, with this guy's track record he's gonna try to sue you *again* for defamation

    • @WombatDave
      @WombatDave Před 3 lety +37

      The statement should be fine. It is, one must assume, a true statement regarding Karl's opinion.

    • @BigT.Larrity
      @BigT.Larrity Před 3 lety +21

      Ultimately evil is subjective, so there's no way in hell that sad twat could sue him for defamation.
      But even if he could Bitchell's remarks on what he thought was Apollo's suicide would fall under most people's definition of evil.

    • @grayaj23
      @grayaj23 Před 3 lety +4

      Opinion is not defamatory (with a nod to the pedants who will say "except when it is", but none of those conditions would apply here.)
      But to be fair, it's still a legitimate concern because it costs money to have lawyers argue in court and get a judge to throw the case out.

    • @Aresydatch
      @Aresydatch Před 3 lety +4

      Notch said he’s backing him up

    • @Megaritz
      @Megaritz Před 3 lety

      Philosophically speaking, I think the fact/opinion distinction is actually somewhat bogus (see John Corvino's article on this). But "opinion" still functions alright as a legal category.

  • @Kowkarot
    @Kowkarot Před 3 lety +88

    Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell look like a Wario and Waluigi Netflix adaptation.

    • @xxPenjoxx
      @xxPenjoxx Před 3 lety

      Bwahahahahahahahaha 👏 👏

  • @maxb5238
    @maxb5238 Před 3 lety +15

    The callout right before the ad FUCKIN HIT.
    “If you want to be legitimately good at something, unlike the subjects of this video”
    Ouch.

  • @xenasBS
    @xenasBS Před 3 lety +3

    This is stupid.
    I understand some people working hard for their records because they care about the game, and then cheating to get ahead, but Togers literally just cheated, and then spent like 30 years lying about it. This lawsuit is so insanely desperate. I can't imagine what's driving him to act like this.

  • @D2ezbmu
    @D2ezbmu Před 3 lety +317

    Huge shoutout and a RIP to Apollo Legend for being the original person bringing this to CZcams light.

    • @infinignite
      @infinignite Před 3 lety +10

      Yeah... He got cornered by some lawsuits and had to make an agrement with mitchel.

    • @THEDisneyNerd
      @THEDisneyNerd Před 3 lety +4

      What happened to him? Was one of my fav youtubers

    • @eugenehatin.420
      @eugenehatin.420 Před 3 lety +4

      @@THEDisneyNerd committed suicide

    • @mr.funnyman9765
      @mr.funnyman9765 Před 3 lety +8

      He was a bitch but Billy should NOT have won

    • @THEDisneyNerd
      @THEDisneyNerd Před 3 lety +3

      @@eugenehatin.420 I just got towards the end of the video, I am so saddened to hear this 😔

  • @VeritasGames
    @VeritasGames Před 3 lety +2054

    inb4 100% lawsuit WR

    • @blazingdude11
      @blazingdude11 Před 3 lety +25

      Wow, just got your ENTIRE SM64 speedrunning video as an ad on this video. Why?

    • @TheBluePhoenix008
      @TheBluePhoenix008 Před 3 lety +5

      Just think this is a funny reply.

    • @VeritasGames
      @VeritasGames Před 3 lety +40

      @@blazingdude11 google advertising % speedrun - I hope you didn't skip it that cost a lot of money!

    • @peppermint_8
      @peppermint_8 Před 3 lety

      @@TheBluePhoenix008 it means “I saw this video before”

    • @mikethetowns
      @mikethetowns Před 3 lety +12

      TAS but for the legal system haha.

  • @fyr3st0rm65
    @fyr3st0rm65 Před 3 lety +4

    Holy shit I had no idea about Apollo Legend. It's one thing when somebody like Billy impotently flails about, but when something actually connects and does damage he's gone from pathetic to actually evil. Billy's gone from somebody who we're trying not to remember to somebody that we'll never forget, nor what they've done.

  • @galacticboy2009
    @galacticboy2009 Před 3 lety +10

    I audibly said "WHAT?!" when you said Apollo Legend was dead.
    I wondered why he hadn't made a video in a while..
    Your channel, his channel, and Summoning Salt, are the trinity of popular speedrunning coverage on CZcams.
    He will be missed.

  • @whatis4295
    @whatis4295 Před 3 lety +114

    Now I'm pissed. I didn't know Apollo died as a result of Mitchell's lawsuit. I remember watching his videos about Mitchell's actions and am now very sad that Apollo is dead.

    • @kristoffer8609
      @kristoffer8609 Před 3 lety +22

      It wasn't the only reason seemingly but I'm sure it played a big part. Being out of pocket is difficult enough, and even worse when you have health problems.

    • @acemargera3203
      @acemargera3203 Před 3 lety +17

      You will never be a real woman

    • @fabulous_finn7810
      @fabulous_finn7810 Před 3 lety +10

      I would say dont look more into his death then. He fucking hated trans people, and used the trans population of the speed running community as a literal call to action to boycott AGDQ.

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 Před 3 lety +31

      @@acemargera3203 Okay incel.

    • @whatis4295
      @whatis4295 Před 3 lety +9

      @@fabulous_finn7810 That's good to know. Either way, I'm not really concerned about if he hated trans people as being in a situation where health is failing and being in debt sucks. I know a very similar situation which I am lucky to be out of (still working on some debt which may not be an issue soon).
      It still sucks that he died for such as awful reason and I don't want the to happen to anyone else either. No matter if they would have hated someone like me or not.

  • @themuffindragon
    @themuffindragon Před 3 lety +55

    This just shows how ridiculous the current legal system is in the US. The fact that people can sue one another knowing full well that their claims are absurd just to strong arm the other person into submitting is insane.

    • @MLennholm
      @MLennholm Před 3 lety +29

      Yep, the fact that someone who wins a lawsuit (either as plaintiff or defendant) still has to pay their own legal fees means people are forced to settle even when they're 100% in the right. Basically extortion and many states lack the anti-SLAPP laws needed to prevent this.

    • @ethanfordford6621
      @ethanfordford6621 Před 3 lety +6

      It’s really telling how easy the system is to break when you have the money to backup bullshit

    • @vball4eva0
      @vball4eva0 Před 3 lety +3

      My friend had this happen when he did work for a very well known DJ who used my friend's work without paying. The DJ dared him to sue because of course this DJ had a team of lawyers ready to strong arm my friend into a settlement where he'd have ended up paying money to do the work that was stolen from him. It's despicable

  • @jayextarys8616
    @jayextarys8616 Před 2 lety +3

    Upside: those two guys provide us with so much entertainment.
    Downside: the nice ppl he sues are very stressed and they dont deserve that.

  • @DarkPurpleDude
    @DarkPurpleDude Před 3 lety +3

    The fact that someone could not only feel no remorse, but quite possibly even feel personal satisfaction, that their malicious lies led to someone taking their own life, over points in a video game no less. How this man can even stand to look at himself in the mirror everyday is beyond me.

  • @TheZetaKai
    @TheZetaKai Před 3 lety +325

    Billy Mitchell is an IRL supervillain: petty, monomaniacal, and heartless. Todd Togers is more like a supervillain's bumbling flunky, the kind of mook that ruins his master's plans through his own incompetence, who would be sad if he wasn't detestably amusing.

    • @FuelYourFocus
      @FuelYourFocus Před 3 lety +14

      Mimsy!!!

    • @mandalorian_guy
      @mandalorian_guy Před 3 lety +4

      He is kind of like Otis from the Superman movie.

    • @RedArremer
      @RedArremer Před 3 lety +8

      In this case, Todd actually helped Billy by being the 'referee' that verified his 1.067 million DK score. The one we have no full video of, and only show-off demos from Billy (that reveal MAME screen drawing routines anyway).

    • @Hibernial
      @Hibernial Před 3 lety +5

      That’s...a good summary after having watched up videos on both of them. I still can’t wrap my head around why holding a fake record is such a big deal to these guys, but maybe it’s really not about that at all. It’s just a tool to push others around with.

    • @RedArremer
      @RedArremer Před 3 lety +3

      @@Hibernial They made a lot of money, but more so was the prestige of being 'worshipped' as gods in their minds.

  • @pcachu
    @pcachu Před 3 lety +281

    The first rule of Lawfare, as tragically demonstrated by Apollo Legend:
    *The Process **_Is_** The Punishment.*

    • @BrunodeSouzaLino
      @BrunodeSouzaLino Před 3 lety

      How so? Apollo didn't commit suicide because of the lawsuit. All things considered, why Apollo even settled in the first place to begin with? Billy had no case.

    • @chrisk2740
      @chrisk2740 Před 3 lety +25

      @@BrunodeSouzaLino Obviously I'm no Apollo fan, he was a reprehensible person. But you could definitely argue a major lawsuit can play a huge part in someone's crippling depression. Even if his physical disease was the much bigger factor.

    • @Azatosu
      @Azatosu Před 3 lety +2

      You really had to make the words bold for dramatic effect huh?

    • @astutepuggle3274
      @astutepuggle3274 Před 3 lety +7

      @@chrisk2740 wait, what did Apollo do that made him horrible? I'm really out of the loop

    • @chrisk2740
      @chrisk2740 Před 3 lety +2

      @@astutepuggle3274 He was generally a liar who manipulated facts and misrepresented things in very malicious ways. The most notable thing was when he played hardcore defense for an actually Nazi who got exposed and banned from GDQ, rwhitegoose. Apollo's misrepresentation of facts and commitment to "we all say bad stuff sometimes, he says he's changed, guys" was disgusting to say the least.

  • @Ustaleone
    @Ustaleone Před 3 lety +36

    It was all fun and games until I heard that a man took his own life. RIP Apollo, I didn't know the guy but was very sad to hear he comitted suicide.
    I not only hope that Mitchell goes bankrupt, but that he faces the consequences for Apollo's death and goes to jail for it. Man o man, what a world we live in...

    • @jojolafrite90
      @jojolafrite90 Před 3 lety +3

      There, there. I'm extremely disturbed at that thing too. Yes, he deserves some kind of retribution, but don't think this "system" will provide any kind of actual justice in that context.

    • @SamsarasArt
      @SamsarasArt Před 3 lety +3

      Billy Mitchell should burn in hell for all the suffering he's caused

  • @LemonGingerHoney
    @LemonGingerHoney Před 3 lety +2

    Damn. I was wondering where did "Apollo Legend" go, but this is... shocking. What the actual hell.

  • @raglock1433
    @raglock1433 Před 3 lety +424

    The fact that this guy ruined apollos life so much, that he took his own life....
    pure evil
    i hope someone pushes back and he will face justice

    • @synmer7104
      @synmer7104 Před 3 lety +33

      Just remember EZScape, And DarkViperAU also had a hand in it as well. They shouldn't be able to escape.

    • @stinar1855
      @stinar1855 Před 3 lety +11

      I legit reciled when I herd that. Fuck Mitchell.

    • @NekoNekonoTabiTabi
      @NekoNekonoTabiTabi Před 3 lety +11

      Wait what apollo went away TF

    • @TheForeverRanger
      @TheForeverRanger Před 3 lety +7

      @@NekoNekonoTabiTabi the stress from it caused him to take his own life

    • @jojo6783f
      @jojo6783f Před 3 lety +63

      @@synmer7104 criticizing people is fine and should be allowed. It sadly was a part of pushing him over the edge but I think neither expected that outcome.

  • @TheL33T3L1T3
    @TheL33T3L1T3 Před 3 lety +117

    The worst part of this entire thing is how Billy wears his tie outside his vest.

    • @ErectedGasCan
      @ErectedGasCan Před 3 lety +2

      I thought i was the only one with bad enough ocd to notice that 🤣

    • @jongyon7192p
      @jongyon7192p Před 3 lety +21

      lol jokes aside, the worst part is billy drove someone to suicide and is now laughing at their death

    • @Beakerbite
      @Beakerbite Před 3 lety +4

      Idk, to me it's the bird hair. It's not an accident that his hair forms a hood around his face, he's been styling it like that for decades.

    • @ErectedGasCan
      @ErectedGasCan Před 3 lety

      @@Beakerbite In my eyes it looks as if he wears a hoodie all the time, with a un-naturally heavily starched hood. 😅

  • @wnekuu
    @wnekuu Před 2 lety +2

    It's 4:30 am, I have to work in 3.5h and I'm going down the rabbit hole with your videos about guys I never heard of before but it's so interesting!

  • @boiledelephant
    @boiledelephant Před 3 lety +7

    Anyone: [states basic easily verifiable facts]
    Billy Mitchell: THAT'S ILLEGAL

  • @mikethetowns
    @mikethetowns Před 3 lety +263

    '"-and I'm now of the opinion he is legitimately evil" - Karl Jobst' should be added to the cover of any future King of Kong physical copies haha.

  • @Turnute
    @Turnute Před 3 lety +84

    I had absolutely no idea that Apollo Legend died, or even took his own life. That hit me like a rock man, Billy Mitchell deserves prison.

    • @synmer7104
      @synmer7104 Před 3 lety +1

      EZScape and DarkViperAU were listed on the suicide note as the main reasons he committed unalive, so they deserve just as much blame in my opinion. Many people forgot that fact, but I never will.

    • @FiatMihiSecundumVerbum
      @FiatMihiSecundumVerbum Před 3 lety +1

      @@synmer7104 why were they mentioned?

    • @synmer7104
      @synmer7104 Před 3 lety +1

      @@FiatMihiSecundumVerbum The videos they both did on Apollo were unnecessarily rude and harassing for very innocent mistakes Apollo made. Apollo explained such to them, and even made clear that he was mentally in a near suicidal position, but they both decided to continue anyway.

    • @IchHaba
      @IchHaba Před 3 lety

      I'm actually still stunned, what a fucking degenerate one hit wonder pushes such a good CZcamsr to death. Wow just wow

    • @BlackfireBandRocks
      @BlackfireBandRocks Před 3 lety

      If you watch the suicide video he made he never mentioned billy Mitchell, just Viper and some other channel.

  • @dirgeofdementia
    @dirgeofdementia Před 2 lety +17

    Ugh… this is just sad. Two grown men attempting to become relevant again through accomplishments and non-accomplishments from 40 years ago.

  • @RiteanDan
    @RiteanDan Před 3 lety +6

    Hi Karl. I was more a retro gamer than a current one (I can name all the “current” games I play on both hands!). I was born in 1969, so you can figure out that I was around during the beginning and peak of classic arcade games. I wasn’t great at them, but always enjoyed playing them. Somehow, while looking for CZcams related videos on these older games, I found myself here, watching your videos and the documentaries you’ve mentioned. I really enjoy the videos you’ve put together and I’ve learned a lot! This particular topic is so vast and crazy and that guy B is a real piece of work! The suicide of that young man is just too much. Anyone who would wallow in pleasure at that is a sick MaFa. Looking forward to hearing much more on this! Peace.

  • @chrisbeach423
    @chrisbeach423 Před 3 lety +212

    Its sad what happened to Apollo Legend, we are all glad Karl is now “fighting the fight” for Apollo now. Karl will never give in to Billy.
    RIP Apollo Legend.

    • @dash_naa2944
      @dash_naa2944 Před 3 lety +22

      I only just found out about that today, it's just so damn despicable that he could do that to someone and get away with it, I wonder if theres some way the community could band together and sue him over the loss of Apollo, get some retribution, but there probably is no legal standing on causing someone to go through all thay stress to the point of breakage. Either way, were going to miss you, Apollo, you were a damn good content creator and sounded like a hell of a guy

    • @imanoljesusdelpozo4907
      @imanoljesusdelpozo4907 Před 3 lety +20

      I watched Apollo’s videos on Mitchel before they were deleted, it was devastating to hear that he had taken his own life. I just hope Karl comes out victorious out of all this, he is admirable for holding Apollo’s legacy himself, I truly admire him deeply.

    • @toyjesus
      @toyjesus Před 3 lety +27

      I had no idea he died until it was said in this video. Very saddening.

    • @Jimmyvdpost
      @Jimmyvdpost Před 3 lety +5

      It's sad. Really sad. But Apollo is not really the 'good guy' in the story either

    • @cday131
      @cday131 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Jimmyvdpost No shit. He's a victim.

  • @sanderbos4243
    @sanderbos4243 Před 3 lety +188

    I can't believe Mitchell's response to Apollo taking his own life, he's by far the most evil person I've ever seen

    • @henryhardtits
      @henryhardtits Před 3 lety +12

      It's unbelievable 😔 Rest in peace Apollo

    • @coolpool4191
      @coolpool4191 Před 3 lety +5

      He is an asshole

    • @TheWatchernator
      @TheWatchernator Před 3 lety +21

      @@coolpool4191 at least my asshole has a function in this world, so it's not a complete waste of DNA.

    • @coolpool4191
      @coolpool4191 Před 3 lety +12

      @@TheWatchernator true, Billy Mitchell deserves punishment

  • @nj_K2_
    @nj_K2_ Před 2 lety +3

    some day he is going to sue himself for doubting himself in his world record

  • @tassimo9995
    @tassimo9995 Před 3 lety +13

    16:51 there was the part that karl cut out

    • @optimysticquest
      @optimysticquest Před 2 lety +1

      What was cut?

    • @tassimo9995
      @tassimo9995 Před 2 lety

      ​@Denny and Buzz
      If you go to 1:07 on Blillie Mitchell's video and 16:51 on Karl Jobst's video, you should be synchronised and you can see for yourself what was cut out (the removed part was 23 seconds long)

    • @tassimo9995
      @tassimo9995 Před 2 lety

      @@optimysticquest you can get to Billie Mitchell's video if you search for it or you can delete the spaces in this link: ht tp s:/ / ww w .yo utub e.c om/ w atc h?v =z9 w6 -sT d V vsIf
      (I answered your comment yesterday, but I did't realize that youtube links get filtered)

  • @DrakonisOrdo
    @DrakonisOrdo Před 3 lety +239

    "It does state that Togers has suffered..."
    "Togers implies..."
    I love how you switched over to calling him "Togers."
    Thats his name now. Is it really his last name?
    Well, its as real as his Dragster score.

    • @jtdHenk
      @jtdHenk Před 3 lety +1

      It took a couple of Togers before i heard it......

    • @klaushammer8687
      @klaushammer8687 Před 3 lety +3

      Actually there is not evidence in favor of Togers being his name vs the high score. See, there's actually written documentation.

    • @willyeeton4390
      @willyeeton4390 Před 3 lety +2

      Hey, the man himself said it was Togers, who are we to argue?
      "And if a man wants to be called Muhammad Ali, goddammit, this is a free country, you should respect his wishes and call the man Muhammad Ali!"

    • @YTDeepshock
      @YTDeepshock Před 3 lety +1

      He IS a Todger.

  • @lillyie
    @lillyie Před 3 lety +343

    Imagine being a lawyer, you handled serious cases like domestic violence, employee maltreatment, and so on
    then you see a guy suing other people because his high score in a video game got removed from the leaderboards

    • @leramar
      @leramar Před 3 lety +29

      The lawyers still get paid regardless. They probably think it will be a good change of pace.

    • @zeked4200
      @zeked4200 Před 3 lety +28

      There are different types of lawyers...not every lawyer is a criminal defense/trial lawyer. There are lawyers who specialize in pretty much every area of Law that you could imagine...including for situations like this.
      I myself am very highly versed in "Bird Law"...so, if any of you need solid representation...

    • @gerardgarvan6388
      @gerardgarvan6388 Před 3 lety +4

      Lawyers are scum

    • @theobscurestash6537
      @theobscurestash6537 Před 3 lety +3

      I think it's more sad that they don't care as long as there is money flowing, or that it's even allowed in the same arena as murder trials simply because it will keep a judge and their slimy cronies on vacation twice a year. These lawsuits, whether they win or not, are damaging innocent peoples lives financially, and potentially even ruining them, all for these asswipes ego trips, and lawyers are the POS middlemen that make that happen! They just don't care. Not even about the law...that's why they bend it for a living. Billy would make a great lawyer...unfortunately.

    • @teresawright3620
      @teresawright3620 Před 3 lety +6

      Lawyers are scum, special place in hell for them. They dont care if Billy Mitchell was suing a dolphin as long as the check clears

  • @k-lock2836
    @k-lock2836 Před 3 lety +1

    i remember when around a year ago I found Apollo Legends videos about Billy Mitchell. This is how I first got to know the whole topic but also Apollo. I also remember when he started his gofundme as I witnessed this whole story. I kinda lost track of those kind of videos though, so I just recently discovered them again, since youtube recommended them to me, once more. Therefore, I never knew that Apollo Legend took his own life during this time. Finding this out now is kind of a shocker, since I remembered easily who he is and what he did. Though story.

  • @AllThingsEntertaining
    @AllThingsEntertaining Před 2 lety +1

    I kinda want this lawsuit to go all the way to litigation, make Todgers believe he's got a case, then when they get to the courtroom, the judge just calls him Todgers the entire time, including when the judge throws the case out.

  • @dwangoAC
    @dwangoAC Před 3 lety +40

    Hi, dwangoAC, keeper of TASBot here - I can confirm Dragster console verification could only achieve 5.57 as shown at 8:36

    • @letcreate123
      @letcreate123 Před 3 lety +1

      Oh hi dwango

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 Před 3 lety +2

      Hi, me here. I can neither confirm nor deny the info provided by DwangoAC, for it shall forever remain a mystery... to me, because I don't know anything about the topic. You're welcome y'all. /s

    • @dwangoAC
      @dwangoAC Před 3 lety +5

      @@LordDragox412 I took the TAS that Omnigamer created and used TASBot with a replay device made by true to send the button presses to a real unmodified Atari 2600 console. The best time I achieved with any combination of inputs was 5.57, confirming that the purported record is not possible.

    • @ersatz_cats
      @ersatz_cats Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you, dwango!

    • @tarand4528
      @tarand4528 Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you!

  • @blunderbus2695
    @blunderbus2695 Před 3 lety +331

    David Race: "Do I at least get to show this recording as evidence?"
    Billy Mitchell: "This is America, so no!"
    David Race: "This isn't America, this is Ohio!"

  • @poppaboppa6000
    @poppaboppa6000 Před 3 lety +7

    You need to address Billy's response in the spirit of transparency

    • @ThaAwesome10
      @ThaAwesome10 Před 3 lety +2

      Do you mean how billy said he would try to not smile or giggle at Apollo’s death? Because that was removed as billy threatened to sue karl over it

  • @moonbot7613
    @moonbot7613 Před 3 lety +3

    💯 convinced that Rodgers sat each night before submitting those scores playing those games and saying something like “ damn it, I shoulda had X score if I wasn’t fucked over. I’ll just give myself the score since I shoulda had it “.

  • @tonedefleppard6738
    @tonedefleppard6738 Před 3 lety +222

    When Mitchell loses everything “I will not shed a tear. I will try my very hardest not to smile or giggle.”

  • @_ArsNova
    @_ArsNova Před 3 lety +207

    Billy, and now Todd have managed to make themselves look even more sad and pathetic. They either have zero sense of shame or are just outright delusional about their own fraudulent high-scores. Why they feel the need to drag anyone else down with them that they can is beyond me.

    • @The_Omegaman
      @The_Omegaman Před 3 lety +16

      They are clinging to that one “achievement” in their life. Al Bundy syndrome.

    • @Hotobu
      @Hotobu Před 3 lety +8

      "The election was rigged"

    • @migueeeelet
      @migueeeelet Před 3 lety +2

      @@The_Omegaman And this is why you don't cheat.
      Or if you cheat and are caught, you suck it up and leave with some dignity.

  • @rwdplz1
    @rwdplz1 Před 2 lety

    I think they're just counting on judges being so ridiculously out of touch with technology (and reality), and ruling in their favor on better legal paperwork and well-presented arguments. Or hoping the people they're suing will just roll over and settle for $$$.

  • @Anyonewhos
    @Anyonewhos Před 3 lety +3

    Don't get yourself in trouble bro.. keep up the great work. Just been watching a few of your goldeneye and other speedrun videos. Great job. I like you and summoning salt

  • @RADkate
    @RADkate Před 3 lety +202

    its so fucking sad what happend to Apollo, even if he did some stupid stuff he still was a genuine guy who cared

    • @TheLastAshbringer
      @TheLastAshbringer Před 3 lety +20

      RIP Apollo

    • @ZXL000
      @ZXL000 Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah.

    • @Sodier402
      @Sodier402 Před 3 lety +10

      Yeah from his purposefully misleading people about his white supremacist friend, and then sending his fans to harass a guy who called him out for it to his outright slandering organizers of GDQ he really was a genuine guy I miss his videos.

    • @twistedgwazi5727
      @twistedgwazi5727 Před 3 lety +2

      Can someone explain what happened to him I'm out of the loop

    • @ItsNitroBS
      @ItsNitroBS Před 3 lety +12

      @@twistedgwazi5727 Sadly after dealing with a lot of physical and mental issues he took his life. It's a very sad story, but you can investigate more about it online.

  • @It_Was_The_Entity
    @It_Was_The_Entity Před 3 lety +312

    Billy Mitchell be like:
    "I am the gaming equivalent of cancer"

    • @ciadarma
      @ciadarma Před 3 lety +21

      @Flameraker48 yes, he isnt, but his lawsuit definitely is

    • @hardworkingmf8445
      @hardworkingmf8445 Před 3 lety +7

      Be careful he might sue you lul

    • @Metroid250
      @Metroid250 Před 3 lety +9

      The difference between cancer and Mitchell is I'd rather be with earlier than the latter

    • @SpiffoGaming
      @SpiffoGaming Před 3 lety +3

      Not funny. My parents were killed by Billy Mitchell

    • @KittAnimations
      @KittAnimations Před 3 lety +2

      @@hardworkingmf8445
      What's he gonna sue us for?
      Free speech? LMAO

  • @Shorty_Hutch
    @Shorty_Hutch Před 3 lety +2

    Billy Mitchell uploaded a response to allegations video on his own channel.

  • @masondegaulle5731
    @masondegaulle5731 Před 3 lety +2

    Oh my god, can't these absolute fools just fade away? They've fallen for the ruse that plagues every cheater; they've swallowed their own bullshit. I'm sure by now they completely believe they won all that faked crap "fair and square". 🙄