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1985-Discovery Of The Titanic (News Coverage)
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
- -Baseball wasn't my only obsession when I was young. I used to read all the books about the Titanic and when the news broke of the wreck's discovery in September 1985, I taped all the news coverage I could about it! (my regular baseball fans of this channel will note that at 1:10:30 there is a CBS story on the Pittsburgh drug trials and at 1:36:06 a story on Pete Rose breaking the hit record).
-The news coverage includes interviews on the morning talk shows with Titanic survivors and Titanic author Walter Lord, live reports from Dr. Robert Ballard at the wreck site and a full episode of "Nightline" on the discovery with "Raise The Titanic" author Clive Cussler as one of the guests. This news coverage brought the first revelation that contrary to the popular belief that had existed since 1912, the Titanic broke in two as she sank. The release of the first wreck photos is included (along with some VERY inaccurate interpretations of the wreck photos. The first photo of the bow does not show "ice damage". At the time it wasn't known that the ship was in worse shape due to rust and erroneously, they thought two funnels were still intact).
She said it broke in half and he immediately cuts her off. She was correct
I have seen that happen many times at different events. This same woman was ata. Convention in 1984 and she said she saw and heard it break in half and some guy interrupted her saying well we don’t know what the sound was and he just played it off. It is irritating since that guy was not there and he treated her like she was crazy. Glad to see she was proven right.
Thinking the same thing
The misogyny is real.
@@alanluscombe8a553I saw someone in the comment section of another video say I think she is lying about her mother having a premonition like how the hell would that person know. People are just so wrong.
@@nancyhopkins389 Or maybe he’s just an arrogant journalist.
How tacky for the survivor to listen to the first comment concern being about diamonds in a safe, and not that this is a resting place for 1500 people one of them her father.
There is probably a billion dollars in valuables down there
That is tacky
This is a brilliant collection of footage. A snapshot of another time, a simpler time. I grew up in the 1980’s and I’m a huge nostalgia addict!! As well as highly fascinated by the Titanic.
Ah the good old 80's the last decade of true freedom.
It's nothing but a trail of fragments in a rubbish field, my goodness these experts really.had no idea
@@philipmcdonagh1094We're now the adults in the room. Make it happen, and the best of luck.👍
If it wasn't for technology of the 2000s you wouldn't be able to watch this video
@@philipmcdonagh1094 nah, that is the 90s
The sweet lady who survived and her father died, when asked what should be done with the wreck...gosh, I love her
#EvaHartRules!
She called it to. The reporter cut her off, but she said her mother always said the ship broke in half.
I agree with some of the artefacts being recovered for display in museums, so that future generations can learn and be educated about the ship and about a period in time that was totally different from today but I don’t agree with the private trade in the artefacts from the shipwreck. Sold to the highest bidder, just so they can put it in their private collection and show off to their other rich friends.
Billions of dollars lost to an iceberg
Titanic 2 engine cylinder engineering diesel generator room
Great video, thanks. Eva Hart, in every interview I've seen, was a quick wit, a woman of sense and sensibility and a person able to distill this epic event into sharp personal detail. This tragedy is an enduring fascination.
Eva Hart was truly a fascinating lady, I’ve watched a number of her interviews and I absolutely agree with you.
@@michaeltburdine3652 Not true. There is video from the BBC where they interviewed a deckhand and he describes what is happening to the ship moment by moment as he is trying to save people.
It seems like a big hokey performance to me. Lady has probably never talked about anything else her whole life and the jokes she sprinkles in are painful. She was born to be an attention whore.
It is uncanny that Walter Lord mentions the wreck of the USS Thresher at 14:30, since Robert Ballard discovered the Titanic while on a top-secret Navy mission to secure the Thresher's nuclear reactor. Dr. Ballard says the Navy was actually upset when he found the Titanic, since it was only supposed to be a cover story! I don't know if Lord knew the true purpose of mission, it was only declassified in 2018. It just goes to show what a perceptive man he was. Also delighted to see Walter Lord and Eva Hart speaking together! This coverage is incredible, thank you so much for posting!
REALLY 😮
It's crazy that now we've been down so many times that we have a full 3D model and amazing footage of the wreck. Even today, she still is in incredible condition considering she's 111 years old. I totally agree with with Miss Eva, Titanic should be left alone, other then for research purposes. Sadly, all the news on the Titan submersible led me to this video.
I'll bet that since the Titan Submarine disaster happened, I'll bet a lot of these types of videos had a huge upswing of views. Also the Titanic alone has a mystical attraction that captivates people, myself included. It's a piece of history that is still fascinating to this day.
it's not that incredible of a condition, Britannic is really incredible, almost fully intact
Titanic belongs to the ocean.
I have the book that Robert Ballard published in November 1987 about the first trip down to the wreck in the summer of 1986. All the pictures are grainy and some are black and white.
Most of the drawings were done by Ken Marshall. It has been interesting to see the development of photographic technology over the decades since her discovery and the deterioration of the wreck site.
I can't believe that guy talked about using the technology at the time to find the Thresher. Ballard had to keep it a secret that he had to first find both the Thresher and the Scorpion, and if he had time left, he could go look for Titanic. He found both subs before he found Titanic. But, in finding those subs he came up with an idea on how to find Titanic.
I caught the same thing and found it funny.
I love her queens English accent and method of speech. You don’t here that anymore.
Yea i remember when the newsreaders spoke like that. Now you don't know what their saying and you probably don't want to no either.
Hear**.
Not only great footage and interviews of the titanic, but seeing clive cussler, maria shriver, and news of that day is truly historical.
Ah those memories. Back when news was actually news and the people who reported it was incredibly professional and as entertaining as a news person could be. I really miss the 70's and 80's. From Drive-ins to the classic shopping malls. Heck one of our malls actually had a Ice Rink. I remember ⛸⛸Ice⛸Skating⛸⛸ there and it was a BLAST! I used to love to play 🏒Hockey🏒 and anytime I had a chance to practice my Ice Skating I was all for that! My Grandma and Grandpa took me there for the first time back in the mid 70's. They eventually shut it down, which was very very sad. So much of those days were special. We may not have had the technology that we have now, but we had ONE thing that kids today, SOME kids today do use...... their IMAGINATION!! Yes we had Atari, but we ALWAYS went outside to play and it was so much more fun. Sorry for the long comment, but the 70's and 80's were the best decades for me and I love to talk about them.
I miss when news was actual news.. Instead of just allegations and hit pieces about people they don't like... Ugh I miss it so much
Thank you so so much for putting all of this together. I’m in awe ❤
This is really valuable footage
what a wonderful collection of clips from the news of the day ! its self now history . nice work thanks ;)
It's interesting how far off the wreck location is at 0:09 compared to where it actually is. It's ~1000 km off.
I saw a few of these stories when they were originally aired in 1985. News reporting has really changed over the years. I like the style used back then. I remember very well the news of Titanic's discovery. Wonderful collection of clips, and interviews with some of the survivors, now gone. Christa McAuliffe, the Teacher in Space, who would lose her life in the Challenger disaster in just a few months, was training to be an astronaut when Titanic was discovered. (Jan Griffiths).
This poor woman. She is clearly under such stress talking about it. So sad.
It's all understandable though :-).
Eva Hart’s story of that night is one of the most fascinating, given her mother’s premonition. It bothers me that her account of the sinking was discounted by some, even though she was correct.
I know that fascinates me too. The fact that she'd had premonitions of some form of impending doom but couldn't yet identify the source of it. Can you image how she felt when she was doing her nightly watch that night keeping herself awake - that feeling of "ah yes, here it is, here we go..."
@@spangol87 chilling
@@spangol87 Exactly. I’ve had unexplainable things happen in my life enough that I can understand why she didn’t need to ask her husband what it was. She didn’t need to know what it was, she’d known that feeling since their tickets were booked.
@maybememory1 I've watched Eva mention this in a couple of interviews but in this one she seems to suggest she was having premonitions of something before their tickets were booked which hit me even more. Something's coming but no idea what...It's a shame we've advanced in a way that we generally silence gut feelings. I've had one particularly strong gut feeling experience of danger in the moment and it's crazy how it happens..not the same as a premonition weeks/days ahead but still, it's in us
@@Sepherynso god killed over one thousand people including children and small babies just because of what someone said?
They knew at the time of discovery that raising the ship would be impossible. Also, I really admire the historian, I've read his books. But he was incorrect when he stated the ship hit the bottom at 100mph. It was more like 30mph. But that's still very fast being the ship was 46,000 tons and full of water. I've always loved hearing Eva Hart speak. Wish she was still with us.
It's actually more like 3-5 mph. That is the accepted guess, because we really don't know for certain.
The 30 mph is what's routinely (incorrectly) stated as the speed she was traveling when she struck the iceberg. Which was 22 knots which is about 25mph.😊
@@LynxStarAuto that sounds incredibly slow.
It wouldn't have been 46'000 once it had split in two and the speed would have slowed to about 17 knotts when it struck as the engines had been stopped before it struck. Most likely sank in a falling leaf type pattern and hit the ocean floor about 15 or 20 knotts.
Gotta appreciate how the presenter, during the radio call at 58:59, respects the radio procedure.
That guy had no idea when he said it could be useful to find the submarine Thresher that it was actually a secret mission that Ballard was on when he struck a deal with the US government to fund the search for the Titanic. He had to survey the wreck of the Thresher. The US government already knew where it was but never told anyone because they didn't want the Soviets to get the nukes. They wanted him to see what he could find out about the wreck and where the nukes were. This guy had no idea how on point he was.
Awesome to watch! Love the other old news articles and adverts along the way 😁
I was seven when the Titanic was found and I’ve been obsessed ever since!
Im a 80s baby, watching this definitely takes me back to the good ole days!
I was 9 and same!!!
Very much enjoyed this, thanks for recording and posting. My son was 5 months old when Titanic was discovered, so this sequence of clips brings back a lot of memories.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Eva Hart is frickin’ phenomenal!
She was the one who said many times after the sinking that the Titanic "will go down in history as the one disaster where there was no need for anyone to die." That's just so true
She's the one who said about that "mystery ship" that she didn't see just lights but also masts. Speaking of which there's oftentimes mention of another ship in the area at the time, the Samson, that she was illegally hunting seals and that she hightailed it out of there once the rockets went up. Documentary evidence shows though that the Samson was actually in Ísafjörður Iceland around the time of the tragedy, and then I guess seals don't venture that far out into the ocean from land. The Titanic's wreck is 370 nautical miles (425.7mi, 685.24 km) south-southeast of Newfoundland and about 700 nautical miles (805.546/1296.4 km) east of Halifax. Walter Lord said that not even the Mauritania's mighty turbines could've got her to the scene in time .
Did you notice how they ignored that that lady said this Titanic broke in half? The host cut her off as fast as possible.
When you're coming up on a commercial and you're told by the guy in your earpiece that you have to wrap things up, that's what you have to do. I have to admit as the person who recorded all of this stuff back then it's amusing to see people reacting with such anger and horror to a non-issue which is simply the technical limitations of time that morning shows give to interviews and how it all falls under a rigid schedule. I watched these shows daily every morning before going to school and the interviews were always short segments in which you ran up against the clock and there'd always be a commercial at 19 after and 25 after. It has nothing to do with cutting off Eva because she said the ship broke in two and it's amazing so many people are reading too much into this.
Very cool video, my grandfather is the guy on GMA at the 1:04:10 mark (the American)
Eva was always such a character. You can just feel her personality. I love her appearances in interviews.
Tue fact he mentioned the missing sub the Thresher proves just how well using the Titanic as a cover story for finding the Thresher really worked
Damn. If miss Eva was alive today I wonder what she’d have to say about the recent events? I have a feeling I know how she’d feel…😬
Hundreds of people visited the wreckage and came back alive, including the ones who actually found it, what would she say about them? Lol
@@diahreea2022 The wreck was found while she was still alive. She just pointed out that she didn’t want them to try to pull it out, which was impossible anyways. My comment was in reference to the CEO of Oceangate who apparently doesn’t believe in science and seemingly had a goal to go be apart of Titanic’s underwater grave. He basically took inspiration from Captain Smith - ignored warnings, even stated that the Titan was invulnerable during an interview once. Didn’t learn a damn thing from history unless the outcome was his goal.🫠
What’s your IG?
@@Jaclyn_Zenwe never learn, Chris Hadfield doesn't think we're ready for mars, Elon does. We'll see
@@patrick1564I'll take the astronaut over the memelord.
The entire way through they insisted the ship broke in half when it hit the ocean floor until the author of “A Night To Remember” said it confirmed a theory he had been working on that the Titanic broke apart. They completely ignored Mrs. Hart’s account that the ship broke apart at the surface.
The aftermath of this sinking had a huge impact on white star line. Some of the survivors would watch it sink from the boats, in my opinion with the sounds of screams and the cracking crashing that a ship would make while sinking that others with family still unaccounted for wouldn't watch. We know it broke in half now 100% but imagine white star explaining that his hit a burg and broke in half. They wouldn't sell another ticket. So I believe people were hushed along with the 25.00 white star paid out per person.
In some ways it's the same today, with social media and everyone with cameras it's harder to lie.
@@seanhannon1055 The problem was that during the investigation the only two accounts taken to decide if the ship broke in half or not were from people who weren't in the correct position to see what happened to the ship itself.
It was he early 20th century and all that, but what strikes me is the fact that when during the hearings when things are about to get interesting (from the survivor viewpoints) they are ordered to stop talking and move over, like nobody was actually trying to build a compete picture of the dissaster.
Even worst, despite the fact that the mayority of the survivors claimed they saw the ship broke in half, their accounts were dissmised by the two testimonies from the two guys i mentioned above.
@whitneylivingston5706: This report says the ship was found in "great shape" and substantially "intact", despite that it's in two pieces and the boilers blown out the sides of the hull. It's like some of the cars I see advertised for an arm and leg on Craigslist describing "patina" covered crap boxes with torn interiors as "good condition".
@@fifty9forty3 You have to realize that the first views were with B/W cameras that didn't reveal the true nature of the damage. Those first photos created an illusion the teak decking was still intact, it didn't reveal the rusticle formations and Ballard actually thought two funnels were still intact. It wasn't until they dove down in a submersible the next year the true nature of the damage was evident.
Such well spoken. Rip Eva ❤️
This is a fascinating video. Like a time capsule of sorts.Thank you.
This footage is so invaluable
Eva Heart is lovely, I love listening to her tell her story. Walter Lord looks like he was under the sea, in a shell. Hanging with Squid Word.
Thanks for these news briefs during the Titanic discovery era, much appreciated! 👍🇺🇲
Awesome footage tyvm This is so invaluable
1:19:51 "It was the first SOS ever radioed from a ship..." It was not :D The first ever SOS was actually sent by the RMS Slavonia after she ran aground and was wrecked off the Azores on June 10th, 1909. Two vessels, the Batavia and the Prinzessin Irene, came to the rescue, and everyone was saved. SOS was not adopted as a distress signal until November 1906 in Berlin, at the first of two international radiotelegraph conventions.
Bringing back my whole childhood watching this footage!😢 Really was a simpler time
As morbid as it sounds, I can only imagine what an incredible sight it was to see that thing sink..
Incredible- you mean horrifying?
Sinking ships can be fascinating to some. I forget what they call it, but it catches our attention because the ship is doing something it's not supposed to do (sink)
@@Xtjiggzsthey probably just meant “unbelievable,” which is EXACTLY what incredible means. You can add horrible to it, if you want; I think they’d probably agree, but there’s no need for a correction of what they said.
@@Xtjiggzs Incredible IN-CRED-I-BLE , adj 1.) impossible to believe 2.) difficult to believe; extraordinary.
I think he might have meant "incredible".
This surviving lady after surviving from Titanic then went through horrors two world wars, what's an extra ordinary scenarios of modern history
4:29 her response to this question speaks volumes. Nobody should go down there again, they’ve done many expeditions, made movies, and now 5 more lives were lost going down there. Leave the final resting place of 1500 people alone.
Love this! Tysm!!
Thanks for this
Sending 💖💝💗To ALL the beautiful perished souls of The Titan and the Titanic. And to my father who died at sea. 💓Farewell. You are remembered. May there be safety protections followed as technology & advancements for mankind are made or discovered...
Wow! Nice find! After Titan brought me down a rabbit hole😂
She seems pissed off that it was discovered, as if everything she remembered and her father’s grave was now known to all
Much respect to her.
We need a Carpathia movie. Not only starting with the rescue of the Titanic’s passengers but also her own Demise and Sinking!
I love interviews with Eva, she seemed like a great women with a great British sense of humour.
Its so strange watching and listening to first hand accounts of that night.. today, every survivor is long gone 😔
That's right eh as of May 31 2009 there's no survivors to turn to, only testimony and research
@@fmyoung yea it's a shame
@@tommybrown9534 Well there's just nothing either of us can do about that
@@fmyoung I agree
Jesse Jackson and Jerry Falwell debate South Africa. Damn! What a time to be alive 😅.
I have always been taught to “Respect the Sea!” If you don’t, tragedy is guaranteed.
Exactly the sea has its own set of rules
I live in Hawaii, Our waterman always say…’Never turn your back on Mother Ocean.’🤙🏽
"The North Atlantic is a harsh and jealous sovereign" (David McCallum) it advises you not to keep "flying in the face of God" (Esther Hart)
His name is James Cameron (the bravest pioneer), no budget to steep, no sea too deep, who's that, it's him, James Cameron! 🎵
No offense to the "expert", but the survivor's recall of that night was far more interesting than his own opinion.🤔 Again no disrespect to the expert at all, but she was there, she saw and experienced one of, if not the most horrific event to occur in naval history at that time and for decade to come.
The captain of the Titanic was a total idiot! He was in a hurry to break records and didn't want to slow down for anything!
Yes, let's boil his life down to "total idiot" because you think you have any clue what happened. Try reading witness testimony about the guy.
That is myth that is has found it way in mainstream. No such thing happened. He kept to the common routes and pace at the time. Titanic and her sister ships were never intended to to take the atlantic speed record.
Well he was a total yes-man towards Ismay. He did order the course altered to a more southerly route but it wasn't much; that amounts to just a formality really. And then, things like hand that ice warning to Ismay instead of posting it on the bridge right away for his officers to read. I once heard that at one point near the end when all the lifeboats and collapsibles were gone Capt Smith picked up his megaphone and shouted through it "Be British boys be British." If he really did that, then he was a real crook. At any instance I don't see much at all to respect Capt Smith for
I love how the Titanic expert talks about how excited he was with the new technology because "in the future" they could find the Scorpion and Thresher when they had actually already been found on that same expedition, but no one knew it yet. lol
2 minutes in.....did they ever got those diamonds???
I don't think so
Nice! I miss all the old tapes I recorded too.
2:07 he got 2 things wrong already 😂 it did not break into on impact with the sea floor and it did not do 100mph
Yea a 100mph it would have ended up in Australia, and given its regards to the Earths core on the way.
Fake news? 😂
@@soberanisfam1323 Yep Stanley Kubrick did the Moon landings, Then Ballard handed the reign to James Cameroon another film director with artistic license to do what he wanted with Titanic.
This is a look into the past I've been wanting to find for years, but um... what were the news team doing with that animation at the beginning? Did they really think a ship steaming to New York would go by Labrador?
I used to dismiss Eva because her being so young. But I started thinking. Well even if you are let’s say even 5 and up; you’re sure bound to remember something: especially as traumatizing as this was. She said she seen it break in half; and it’s broken in half. During her time; people didn’t believe her because of Lord. (A night to remember)/ he said it just sank basically.
And she’s not the only one to hear an explosion: one of the boiler crew members heard an explosion. Forgot his name but he survived.
I've thought of it this way.
I wad 6 when Challenger
Happend I can remember watching it on TV. In my grandpa's living room.
Now imagine being on a gigantic ship on a ice cold night. Then torn from your father whom you would never see again. Stuck in a life boat in freeze water.
You would definitely remember that.
She was 7 so she would definitely have memories.
Yes, the age of remembrance is usually around 5 years of age. What she experienced was so harrowing and traumatic, I’m sure it was all ingrained in her memory forever. I can’t even imagine.
I was 7 when 9/11 happened and I can clearly remember having a guitar lesson in school and some of the conversations. No doubt she remembered it clear enough.
Love Eva Hart. She didn't see or hear the musicians so cannot make any comment on that. And if you desecrate the Titanic, "you are desecrating my father's grave."
Looking back, its kinda funny how many people are talking about raising the ship. Of course, we now know its impossible. But a lot of people back then simply wanted to do it just for the challenge, like the guy on TV at 1:04:00.... no shame lol
What makes it even more hilarious is that from what I understand, this interview happened _after_ it was confirmed the _Titanic_ had broken in two, thus making such an operation impossible
I think even now if the money was there it could still be raised , the steel is still strong
@@tur74d56 no it’s definitely impossible now unfortunately. The rusticles have made sure of that.
Ugh, everything about that guy was smug! Even his douchy accent ! I hope he didn’t get anything from the wreck
@@tur74d56You think wrong.
Love to see the U.K. News from 1985 on the ship to
Here is a short clip from BBC News in 1985 - czcams.com/video/bhFmf_18dmA/video.html
2:54
"To say that the ship 'Unsinkable' was flying in the face if God"
No doubt and that's again why Eva Hart's mother had good reason not to like the ship
"The North Atlantic is a harsh and jealous sovereign" (David McCallum) it advises you not to keep "flying in the face of God" (Esther Hart)
Another thing I heard about Ballard's expedition is that one of his submersibles brought part of a cable to his research ship. Ballard thought it was undoubtedly from the Titanic so in order to avoid any gold rush on his ship he threw it back into the ocean
Thank you so much for this! 😊
Here's why the Titanic's story will just never die: (1) she was the world's biggest movable man-made object of her day, (2) she excelled in luxury, (3) she was on her maiden voyage (of all voyages), (4) there were many celebrities of the day on board, (5) there was already a lot of talk about all her features before she was ever launched (including the whole "unsinkability" talk), (6) she was the world's newest ocean liner of her time and (7) the Titanic is the first or maybe the only ship thus far in living memory to be sunk by an iceberg. It seems the Titanic will always be in our minds despite herself; unlike the ship itself, the story remains unsinkable
"She wouldn't go to sleep in that ship. She'd stay up all night, and *sleep* during the day"
Sleeping in the day is still sleeping lol
That was Eva Hart's mom she was disturbed for really good reason. "The North Atlantic is a harsh and jealous sovereign" (David McCallum) it advises you not to keep "flying in the face of God" (Esther Hart)
I think Ballard was the right person to find the wreck; he has the right attitude for endeavors like that .
8:43 The soundtrack composer of that film, William Alwyn, was alive only for a few more days after Ballard's expedition found the wreck. He died ten days later, on September 11 1985 .
Thank you so much for sharing this! What a treasure trove of footage. Thoroughly enjoyed the footage and the VHF component with all its flaws (in comparison to current technology.)
7 years old when she saw the Titanic go down, no wonder they said "we will fight Hitler in the streets, with brooms" Adolf truely underestimated England!
Even if the ship had enough lifeboats to accommodate the crew and passengers it wouldn't have mattered if in their haste and panic didn't fill them to capacity.
More lifeboats would’ve so saved more lives.
@@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY: Maybe. The laws have changed to accommodate all passengers, not half the number. It wouldn't matter in a like situation if panic and lack of crew training ensues and the boats aren't filled to capacity. Those two latter factors are key.
@@fifty9forty3 Well more lifeboats still would’ve at least given more people something to float on because even though the last two weren’t properly launched, a few dozen people were still able to float on them which did save their lives.
@@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY: The number of boats was what the law required, insufficient as it was. The shipping company was in compliance, and nothing could be done about that at the time of the collision regardless of how the abandonment proceeded. The major factor for loss of life in this tragedy, in my opinion was the negligence in lack of response by the SS Californian, for it was within range to arrive and save many, if not all of the unfortunates that went down. That may be disputed, but those potentially saved could equal the number saved if more life boats were onboard.
I just reread Custer’s book. And rewatched the movie. They left so much out of the film. Some really intense action scenes that would have made the movie epic. Instead the movie just plods.
A problem was that in order to secure US Navy cooperation for the film, the script could not overemphasize conflict with the Russians (This was the age of detente). So therefore the whole plot element of the Russians boarding the Titanic during a hurricane was out before production could begin.
Even the survivor talks about not having enough lifeboats. The reality was they barely had time to launch the ones they had. Two were swept away. Any more boats just wouldn't have got used.
Experts talk very much about the future and we who are watching an 80's tv program in 2023 r now that future they were talked about. In 1997, 12 yrs after this tv show , and further in 2001,2003, 2004,2005...2021,2022, we know much more about Titanic...
We really do not know much more than we did back then.
No treasure to speak of.
7 million in 1912 diamonds 230 million worth today.
14:30 he mentions the "Thresher" atomic submarine... not knowing that this was exactly what Ballard was out for to find, sent by the Navy. Funny little fact, he found the Titanic only in the aftermath of searching for two atomic submarines, the "Thresher" being one of them. And now this guy mentiones that technology could be useful to do exactly that. ^^
21:01 geez, the little kid in me, sees a monster in that boiler
The first expert thought the ship was broken up, imagine his face when he saw that it was actually fairly in tact in two halves.
Would love to know where you found all these old news clips? I really miss this type of broadcast.
I recorded all of these stories as they happened at the time. I would tape just the Titanic stories when I knew they'd be coming on with a couple minor story items I was also interested in like the two baseball stories) The discovery was big news spread out over the course of a week and it was easy to tape the morning show interview segments before I went off to school.
Excellent foresight! Her ability to capture our interest and ignite our imagination lives on. Thank you for preserving these invaluable artifacts of history and legends. God, I miss the 80’s!
@@epaddonI’m so glad you did! I really miss this too. Seeing old clips from news, TV shows, and commercials from back then makes me feel so nostalgic. Thank you.
Footage with the tugboats and the clip of the ship backing out of the harbor is actually the Olympic, even the video footage of Captain Smith walking around on deck was also the Olympic in 1911 as he was the first captain on the ship.
That lady is seen on various news programmes and every time she mentions the Titanic split in half before she went under she’s cut off ….
They should not of scrapped the Olympic it was a rare ship
The ship was obsolete and couldn't profitably run any longer in 1935. Scrapping it gave work for hundreds of people who were unemployed during the Depression. If there hadn't been a Depression and the ship still existed when WW2 broke out it might have become a troop carrier again. But there was no sane economic reason for maintaining her in 1935 because there was no "Titanic mania" then.
@@epaddonif there hadn't been a depression there may of not been a ww2
I think the Depression '30s played a role in that outcome; those people in Jarrow and Inverkeithing badly needed a job
GREAT compilation. I really enjoyed this. In light of recent events. Glad this popped up in my algorithm. Also, nice leaving some commercials from that time in as well.
Thank you! I freely admit that because I was an impressionable 16 year old at the time, I deliberately started the machine up when I saw Kathie Lee Johnson's (she wasn't Kathie Lee Gifford yet) Carnival Cruise commercial come on (which in a strange way in this compilation reveals how much traveling at sea had changed in 73 years since the Titanic!)
This must have been when the ship was first discovered, but before it was found to have broken in two - there’s no way there would have been talk of possibly raising the wreck otherwise
If they only knew at that time how fragile conditioned the Titanic was in they would never bring it up. Anyways I miss the old Nightline so classic🎩☺🚢 and never raise the titanic its holy grounds of the dead.
One thing Ismay did on the Carpathia was contact the White Star offices in NY and ask them to hold this other ship, the Cedric, until he and the crew came, so they could go back home to England as soon as possible. That already made everyone think that he was trying to slip away from America before the police or the authorities could get their hands on him. He then made things worse for himself by signing his message "Yamsi": his last name spelled backwards. That then begs the question why try to cover up by spelling your name backwards if you have nothing to hide. The American warship Chester intercepted his message and relayed it to Congress where a subcommittee to look into the matter was quickly formed. Its members, headed by Sen. William Alden Smith, promptly went to New York where they strode aboard the Carpathia and succeeded at subpoenaing Ismay. He was to appear in court, not within a few days, let alone a full week: the following day. That was Sen Smith's subcommittee's way of serving swift justice which is what America likes to do so much yes but then (1) the tragedy took place within US territorial waters and (2) there were American passengers on board So this time the US was presented with the right opportunity to do just that, serve swift justice
1:46:55 Capt Lord always said the Californian was too far away to help at "19mi." The Carpathia was 58mi away when Cottam told Capt Rostron about the Titanic - and she still came. Ballard says that the Californian must've been only 9-10mi away, probably less.. So, again, if the Carpathia was able to come, so was the Californian
Robert Ballard once said, considering how dangerous travel can be on the North Atlantic, "I would always hope that the other mariner out there would stretch a little to save my life."
1:20:31 Her radio may have been off but the officers saw rockets nearby and could've asked the radio operator to check. Capt Lord and his crew would've really earned big-time recognition if they had rushed over and helped out
TAKE ME BACK TO THE 80'S AND LEAVE ME THERE
“It was intact in good condition.”
Ok, Jan.
They hadn't a clue at that stage what state it was in just that they had found it.
1:46:59 That's the thing too the crew thought that lifeboats filled right up would buckle and break under the weight of people in them; this although Harland & Wolff stated that they could be lowered completely full
It’s like we repeat history
Soviets - Russians
Vietnam- Afghanistan
Titanic- titan
There's nothing new under the sun.
very ironic that how they mention that the technology used to find the titanic could be used to find the uss thresher, when finding the thresher and scorpion was the exact reason that robert ballard was able to find the titanic at all, using the same technique that he used to find both of the subs
The Titanic took over 73 years to be found after she sank at a depth of about 12,500 feet, but her rescue ship Carpathia took over 81 years to be found after she sank at a depth of somewhere between only 500 and 600 feet. As for her ignoring ship, the SS Californian, she sank at a depth that is believed to be even deeper than the Titanic and even to this time in 2024, she still hasn't been found.
1:19:56 The entire North Atlantic "crackled with news too extraordinary to believe." (David McCallum as narrator of "Titanic: The Complete Story")
I hate that "women and children first" was mistaken for "women and children _ONLY"_ It's just absolutely tragic...
1:41:02 Capt Lord just didn't feel like giving up on his nice and toasty warm bunk
who else didn't hear anything after 7 million in diamonds.
This must've been quite the achievement for Ballard
45:45 Capt Lord thought he would get off the hook at court by explaining his "prudence" of laying stopped for the night while the Titanic was recklessly "rushing full-speed" through the ice. He told reporters it would take him "about ten minutes" to say that at court. Was he ever wrong....