"Titanic Remembered" (1992) - Classic British Documentary with survivor interviews
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- April 11, 1912 - "Titanic" set sail from Southampton the day before on the maiden voyage and has now reached Queenstown, Ireland. The last day that anyone other than passengers saw Titanic sail.
Includes interviews with survivors like Edith Haisman and Eva Hart MBE. The documentary - produced pre-James Cameron's "Titanic" - shows memorial services and conventions taking place in the 1970s and 80s. It shows that interest was still high before the 1997 film, although the demographic of Titanic nuts was soon to be swollen by mass influx of teenage females. At this point, people still seemed interested in the actual ship.
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I like what Eva Hart once said about the tragedy, namely that it "will go down in history as the one disaster in which there was no need for anyone to die."
Eva Hart was 12 on Titanic, she had the best stories, first hand. May she RIP.
*7
she was 7 years old
she was 7years old
Lol. I love how the appearance of the comment having already been made a couple times doesn't deter folk.
@@VanishedPNW can I say it AGAIN for your entertainment “She was 7 years old” 🤭🥹😅😂🤣
I light a candle every April god bless all who perished on the Titanic 😢
God bless you.
It is very easy to see you have a beautiful heart.
NEVER CHANGE❤
I’m in this film, it was mostly filmed at the 1992 Titanic convention, held by the UK Titanic Society at the Southampton Hilton hotel. My grandma painted the Titanic and brought the picture to display, and Eva Hart, Edith Haisman and Millvena Dean all signed the back.
That's pretty cool❤
A couple of months before I was born.
Thank you for sharing this with us 🙏
There's still the nails in the wall of the White Star building here in Liverpool 🇬🇧 where the list of survivors was posted after the tragedy. ☘️👋📚
😔 HEARTBREAKING! The tears and pain in that spot ... just Horrid . 💔
@@cowboykelly6590 Very much so yes, it's now included in the official tour of the city. 🙏☘️
@@DaveSCameron about time too ❤
Eva Hart's mother had just the right feelings about the ship.
26:35 Man: "This is probably the most famous film ever made and will probably remain so."
James Cameron: "Hold my beer."
It’s the most accurate
I liked these old vids. Survivors back then swore they saw the ship break in two then submerge. Wasn’t proven till much later
Good point showing again how subjective we humans are as witnesses. 👍
@@DaveSCameron we are, but this is not a good example because in this case it was proven that what the witnesses claimed to have seen was true.
@@renek243 but everyone wanted to believe the crew who said it went down whole. To show this was a horrible accident but white star was still safe. Even though Olympic had an accident and titanic sank then the third sank but that was an act in war time
@@Truecrimeresearcher224 my great grandfather Albert Horswill was a crewman on Titanic who survived the wreck, he testified at the British Inquiry that the ship broke in two.
@@Truecrimeresearcher224 it’s fascinating how the wreck of HMHS Brittanic can be seen from the surface at 390 ft (122 meters) lying on its starboard side and can only be accessed only once a year and ONLY by the most qualified organizations and experienced marine professionals
Very thoughtful, sweet remembrance.
I met an elderly lady several years ago who said she was on the Titanic.
She told me her father had worked on the Titanic and before it left port, had taken her up on deck, in his arms, walked around and then gotten off before it set sail.
Hard to believe this was 111 years ago today.
Yeah it’s really hard to fathom how that the survivors are even ALL dead ☠💀last living survivor was “Eliza Gladys Dean “Millvina Dean” died May 31, 2009 .. i hope to at least one day meet one of the grandchildren or a family member like a grand uncle of Titanic passenger one of these days when I go to visit Belfast or Southampton
@@ChairmanPaulieD Wonder what she thought of the 1997 movie, since she was an infant on board.
@@patcurrie9888 I think I read in an online article that two (2) maybe three (3) of the remaining Titanic survivors DID watch the 1997 Titanic film I can’t remember who it was
However long ago it all happened though I think the Titanic will always be with us
Survivor Eva Hart maintained throughout her life that this other ship was much closer than those 19 miles.
Yeah I heard many eyewitnesses say that she was as close as 5- 10 miles away from the RMS Titanic as she was sinking. At 19 miles away and on a dark haze on that night April 14-15, 1912 at 11:40 pm - 02:30 am it’d be vaguely impossible to see anything at 19 miles away bc even at 5 miles it’d be extremely difficult to see anything that far away so at 19 miles away I’m going to put my money at 5-8 miles away 10 miles away at most 🤞🏽
@@ChairmanPaulieD They also estimated their own position wrong. Seriously, if a ship had gone to Titanic that night, they would have been 20 miles away from the ship and seen nothing. The only reason Carpathia found the life boats is because they'd drifted. Titanic's rescue position was off by 20 miles. It was a very bizarre night, pitch black, and a "sea of glass." Everyone was seeing things, even the lookouts talked about what an odd night it was.
I'm sure she believed that, but there were other ships in the area that night. Samson was one. It's very possible that they saw this ship. We know Californian was correct that it was 15-19 miles away because we know how long it took her to reach the wreck site. And that was in daylight. They wouldn't have been able to go that fast at night.
Titanic's crew made blunder after blunder that night. They waited until a full HOUR into the sinking before firing up rockets. They fired them up at intervals of 7 minutes apart, not the traditional "SOS" one after another. 100 years ago, some rockets meant "stay away." But distress rockets were fired up one after another, not intervals. The captain of Californian didn't even receive word of them until just an hour before she sank. Even at 5 miles away in the middle of an ice field, that 6,600 ton ship couldn't have done anything. You can't pull alongside a floundering ship.
And remember, everyone on earth, including White Star Line were in disbelief that it sank. In the Californian's mind, the idea of the largest ocean liner in the world sinking would have seemed impossible, too. I do believe they should have turned on the wireless, but like many older captains - including Smith, remember, he ignored ice warnings - didn't believe it was needed. They sure learned better the morning after. My feeling is that even if they'd shifted on the wireless at that moment and found out she was sinking, they would have arrived just in time to get people out of the boats. And even that would have been taxing with little equipment on her for that.
SS Californian was a steamship with a capacity for 102 people. Carpathia was a passenger ship with capacity for 1,700. The idea that Californian could have swam aside a floundering 56,000 ton ship in pitch black night and saved everyone is ridiculous. Titanic was 56,000 tons, Californian 6,600 tons. They would have been stressed just to get the survivors on board and wouldn't have had room to move. White Star line needed to demonize someone so why not this little steamship with capacity for only 47 passengers.
@@ko7577 "You can't pull alongside a floundering ship." -- you can, however, lower your own lifeboats into the water.
I can guarantee it was closer, much closer than 19 miles. I work on the ocean, on a boat in the oil field in the Gulf of Mexico. The curvature of the earth would have hidden any ship or object 19 miles away. The furthest I’ve ever seen an object with my naked eye offshore is around 12 miles. That ship was likely around 5-10 miles away for so many to see her, and for the Californians officers to report seeing the titanic so clearly and to see the rockets fired so clearly. No way was it 19 miles away. That’s simply too far to be seen at sea, at night, on a night where an iceberg wasn’t even spotted until far too late.
Tough to believe she is only a third of the size of current cruise ships.
Sort of. I was on what was then the largest cruise ship in the world in 2008, it was pretty unreal how big it was. When you can be alone on a pretty large running track aboard a ship with 5000 other people on it, you know it's big, lol..
What a dear old lady Edith Haisman was God bless her
I just love how so many people have these vivid memories they tell so vivid in fact they are always so absent of any detail at all 😅😅
Beautifully done...thank you!
Thanks for this Titantic program.
Thank you for explaining the history of the Titanic , of the history that I didn't even know about, That was a real treat
unfortunately Eva Hart's mother had the right premonition about the Titanic sinking. I like what Eva Hart once said about the disaster no one had to die.
Me too; that's just so true
Again, true; it would be different if it all involved an earthquake or tsunami hurricane or big volcanic eruption
God rest the souls who perished that awful night.
Not sure if it's honoring Smith when his mural includes a painting of his ship sinking.
There is some honour in going down with the ship, you know.
Whether that's an honor or no, I don't see much to honor Capt. Smith for
Eva had a sharp memory. I would've loved to have known her. We all need an Eva Hart in our lives ❤
She hot
Watched from Jamaica. Some years ago their was a news paper article of a british man whose father or grand father, was a violinist on the Titanic who also went down on it, discovered that his father or grand father was in Jamaica the year before the sinking and was in an reletionship with a Jamaican waitress at the old Constant Spring Hotel in which she bore a child for him. This was discovered though reciets of insurance money sent to the child's mothers. The disendance were tracked down and the story made public.I suppose to have the news paper clipping around the place.. ,
Very Interesting 🤔 I definitely like hearing about news and information of passengers that were onboard the Titanic like maybe they sent a telegram at the wireless room with Jack Phillips & Harold Bride. I remember reading about a Haitian engineer Joseph Philippe Lemercier Laroche he was the son of the President of Haiti 🇭🇹 in April 1912 and he sent telegrams to his father. I read that his bride was a white English woman pregnant with a baby and Joseph Philippe Lemercier Laroche didn’t survive the sinking apparently. And his father didn’t want the bride to have any family relations with the President bc of racial tensions that she was a Caucasian woman and the son has a Haitian black son and was forbidden at that time during the Edwardian era. It’s very unfortunate evidently 😏😒☹
I found these stats here quite interesting : Col Gracie was the first adult survivor to die (December 4 1912), Lookout Reginald Lee was the first crew member to die (August 6 1913), Joseph Boxhall was the last officer to die (April 25 1967), and Michel Navratil was the last male survivor to die (January 30 2001). Then, of course, the very last survivor to pass away was Millvina Dean (May 31 2009).
Fact is the Captain of the Titanic ignored six ice and berg warnings before the Titanic hit the iceberg. The British made a hero out of Captain Smith because they couldn’t stand the thought that a Brit was to blame for the catastrophe.
For me, too, Capt. Smith will never be someone to look up to; things like dashing back to the bridge right after the impact and asking Murdoch "What was that?" after all those ice warnings and his discussion with Lightoller about ice precautions will just always reflect badly on him. That and the act of handing that one ice warning to Ismay rather than posting it on the bridge right away for his officers to read
Also, during her trips to Cherbourg and Queenstown Cpt Smith ordered a few lazy S turns to test the ship around (adjust the compasses among other things) in order to, in Walter Lord's words, "educate himself " on his new command. That you don't do on a voyage with passengers on board Captain that you do during sea trials. That's what sea trials are for .
That's not the approach of a sea captain, that's the approach of a teen.
So, once again the question arises: How much did Cpt Smith really know about the vessel under his feet?
And then, if he really picked up his megaphone near the end and said "Be British boys be British", then he was a real moron.
@@fmyoung
A good book on titanic ( latest) is.. on a sea of glass!!!! It’s the most comprehensive information on Titanic!
@@Gentlebreeze397 Thanks 🙂
@@fmyoung Titanic did do sea trails, off Belfast. Plus, Smith had previously captained the Olympic, Titanic's identical sister. You're being unnecessarily harsh there.
Furthermore, those last last words are probably apocryphal - they're too perfect an epitaph. Other survivors claim his last words, after calling "every man for himself", were "do what you can for the women and children." And this has the ring of truth about it. Still others reported his booming voice in the water after the wheelhouse plunged, directing people towards the upturned lifeboat. I believe that too.
Smith was not a great commander. He was past it and complacent after a long and safe career. But I don't think he was criminally negligent.
🙏♥️ Survivors 😢
Does anyone know the name of this song played at 41 minutes?
Seems like ...after they hit the ice berg. There wasn't a big panic. A lot of people didn't want to get on the life boats at first but then reality hit. When people finally realized their fate and that there wasn't enough life boats. Then it was probably chaos and your worst fear. Horrendous. Just horrible
The 300ft gash was actually a series of pokes and stabs that the iceberg inflicted into the hull as it bumped and grinded along. It took the berg only ten seconds to doom the Titanic :-l
You are correct, the first five and slightly sixth compartment were comprised, each suffering their own individual damage. 46,000 ton ship travelling at 21 knots striking an 100,000 year old Iceberg. Inch thick steel plates bent and buckled from the impact, popping rivets and opening the seams to the width of a man’s hand. Had there been a 300 hundred foot gash, Titanic would have sunk in less than half hour.
@@theone2519 :-l
@@theone2519 The gash was a fantasy of the media. They actually calculated the damage early on and were mostly accurate. For it to take 2 hours and 40 minutes to sink, the damage had to have been small. Edward Wilding, a Titanic design assistant, figured out the size of the damage by calculating the time she took to go under. He was almost exactly correct: 12 square feet. The Inquiry ignored him.
@@ko7577yes totally agree
going by the colossal size and weight of Titanic for many passengers and crew to feel a shudder / vibration at the time it’s hit the iceberg that damage in that fairly small area has been proper heavy
@@ko7577 It was also Lord Mersey's conclusion
These pre 1997 James Cameron Titanic documentaries are more interesting. Less Hollywood and more down to earth. The whole thing was a Captain Smith maritime ego trip that went horribly wrong
Smith apparently had an appalling safety record with the ships he commanded, many incidences of collisions and one of a fire which killed crew members. Though some will say that was a common thing back then. With the number of mishaps and accidents Smith had he shouldn't have been able to work for any shipping company at all, let alone White Star Line.
Yes a modern documentary would try to interject some black injustice narrative to it.
I think that's cause they just found it in the 80s and only a couple films had been made after the discovery
@@Embracing01 Passengers requested him. He was much loved.
@@Embracing01 I've seen this repeated over and over again online. Smith was in no incident with the Baltic, Majestic, or Adriadic. The first ship people mention him wrecking, the Majestic, wasn't even launched until 2014, two years after his death. The other two had incidents, but he wasn't captaining the ships at the time. He was known as a supremely safe captain and had no incidents with the Majestic or the Baltic. Just because those liners eventually had incidents doesn't mean he had anything to do with it. He received safety awards and commendations from White Star Line. Why do you think they put him in charge of Titanic?
His first incident was the Hawke. That was a legitimate accident and it was his first. And it's here that White Star Line should have questioned whether he was yet competent to command larger ships. He was an older captain, 62 years, and it's likely he didn't understand the strength and magnitude of the ships he was commanding. I agree that the Hawke incident should have called for a new captain, but remember, passengers asked for him.
1:11 The Titanic was originally scheduled to leave on March 20th but the Olympic dropped a propeller blade in late February so construction on the Titanic had to be stopped in order to get the Olympic repaired and back in service as soon as possible. That was the second delay in her construction. The first, in the fall of 1911, was the Olympic-Hawke collision
Imagine if they the Olympic, turned the ship into a Titanic museum, in 1935 instead of scrapping the sisters ship. Titanic was not yet far enough removed from the public consciousness to achieve the mystical status she has today
Here's why the Titanic's story will never die: (1) she was the largest movable man-made object of her day, (2) she excelled in luxury appointments, (3) it was her maiden voyage (of all voyages), (4) there were many celebrities of the day on board, (5) there was already a lot of talk about all her features before she was ever launched (including her "unsinkability"), and (6) the Titanic was the first ship in living memory to be sunk by an iceberg. Of course, let's not forget those who died. 1,500 souls is 1,500 souls.
Only 41 minutes late and there were survivors? Thank You for this, what a horrible event that was. Edit: Second!
34:33 That's actually the Olympic; she was the one that had an all-open first-class promenade deck. (The Titanic's was glassed in for the front half of its length.)
Such a stark difference between pre 1997 movie and post 1997 movie
A quite interesting story I've heard about Ismay is that around the time "A Night to Remember" was released in November 1955 Walter Lord got a letter from someone in England about the remarkable finish at the 1913 Derby in Epsom Downs. Craganour, the favourite, crossed the line first and was escorted to the winners' circle. Then, without a protest from anyone, it was placed second to Aboyeur. Craganour, Lord's correspondent said, was owned by Bruce Ismay, and I guess it doesn't really need saying that the horse racing establishment would never let his horse win the hallowed Derby after what happened. Walter Lord then went to check the story. Everything turned out to be accurate except for one important detail. Joseph Bruce Ismay didn't own Craganour. His brother, Charles Bower Ismay, did. Still, Craganour remained placed second to Aboyeur. The reason? Craganour's original jockey had been replaced by an American one, Johnny Reiff. I don't know why that was but the move was regarded as immensely unpopular, and at the end of the race during discussions the judges had a golden opportunity to discredit Reiff. Walter Lord, though, said that he still got letters afterwards still linking Bruce Ismay and Craganour together
One thing Ismay did on the Carpathia was contact the White Star offices in NY and ask them to hold this other ship, the Cedric, until he and the crew came, so they could go back home to England as soon as possible. He signed his message "Yamsi": his last spelled backwards. The actual reason for that message was to evade American jurisdiction before any investigation could be started. The American warship Chester intercepted his message and relayed it to Congress where a subcommittee to look into the matter was quickly formed and its members, headed by Sen. William Alden Smith, promptly went to New York where they strode aboard the Carpathia and succeeded at subpoenaing Ismay. He was to appear in court, not within a few days, let alone a full week: the following day. That was Sen Smith's subcommittee's way of serving swift justice which is what America likes to do so much
A very sad and tragic event it was.
It is one of those things that should've never happened
It should've never taken a disaster of that magnitude, where there was even no reason for anyone to die, to learn about the dangers of ice. As David McCallum said one time, "The North Atlantic is a harsh and jealous sovereign."
My Great Grandfather knew the Titanic was going to sink...
His cries where ignored and he was forcibly removed from the Cinema
😂🎉😂😅
Did he know it was switched with Olympic?.
@@Embracing01 actually I saw a doco on that. I actually think they very well could have switched ships after that hit in Port with the Naval Vessel. Insurance payments make humans do some horrible things for the sake of money.
@@NinjaBrothersINC The late Robin Gardiner in his book The Great Titanic Conspiracy, suggests that the Hawke collision may've been deliberate. According to Gardiner there was no reason why Hawke should've been in that channel because there was no need for it there having been a Navy battleship, it was the channel used for passenger ferrying vessels. Many switch theorists will state categorically that the hole caused by Hawke punched a 15 foot hole deep into the side causing the propeller shaft to be bent, and the keel was stretched making it impossible for it to be repaired. The debunkers will argue that the damage was that bad. As for evidence of a switch, I havent been able to find a single photo of either ship where there are signs of one ship becoming the other after a certain period - from Oct 1911-March/April 1912.
@@Embracing01 I appreciate your insight on the matter. Thank you.
As the Carpathia was going back to New York, Ismay contacted the White Star offices there and told them to hold this other ship, the Cedric, until he and the crew came, so they could get back home to England - and out of US jurisdiction - as soon as possible. That's obscene :-l
The White Star line acted disgracefully in the aftermath of the disaster. They visited traumatised passengers in US hospitals, to get them to sign an out of court settlement for *$25!!!*
Oh...and they billed the family of the band for their uniforms that they were wearing (and died in)... including a breakdown of amounts for the buttons, for the lapels...
Utterly disgraceful.
@@glazersout4272Goodness me, that’s too appalling for words!!
@@glazersout4272 Jock Hume's parents were the ones who got a bill for his uniform from C.W. & F.N. Black who employed the musicians
27:58 On quite a few streets in Southampton there must've been at least one bereaved family
These pre-1997 Titanic docs are much better, because they aren’t filled with James Cameron’s BS or Celine Dion music. 🤮
Haha 😂! This is not far from the mark, there's way too many with time wasting tunes and very little of #ourhistory
Oh you don't enjoy James Cameron's Titanic "banana theory?" lol.
@@BULL.173 I'll make the same joke I made when he said that. Excuse me at least buy me dinner first
@@Truecrimeresearcher224 lol. solid
@@BULL.173 bananas 🍌 a gay man’s favorite fruit item
26:39 - welllllllll...
The 300 foot gash is incorrect. A relatively small number of openings not much in total area sank Titanic
54:41 isn't that the "door" that Rose was on at the end of the movie?
Could be
April 10th is a day to remember and April 14-15th is "A Night to Remember"
42:48 Wallace was buried on may 18th, 1912.. where was his remains kept until then? almost a month after the sinking
His body wasn’t found for over 2 weeks. It had to be retrieved and identified and sent back to England for burial.
I can’t believe someone would vandalise a memorial of The Titanic, absolutely disgusting, just shows you the kind of people we have in our society today, disgusting!
1500 i ment how cold this happen
1:11 Because April was still off-season, and because there was a coal strike in Britain around the time she sailed, the Titanic was only two-thirds full
How the one gentleman could have made the comment about one of the reasons Titanic sank being the late departure makes no sense. Both the water and air temperature would have been higher during April than March.
34:28 Too bad the painting is wrong. The smoke coming from the 4th funnel proves the painter didn't see the vessel sail.
The 4th funnel vented the galley and the smoking room fire place, so there would have been some smoke.
Betty walker conceived on board "titanic" 😂
I don't think that's known for a fact that story has the same basis as the one saying that Cpt Smith swam towards a lifeboat with a baby in his arm, put the baby in it, and then pushed himself away
This is one of the few places I've heard anything about the SS St. Louis. My grandfather came to America on that ship in 1897. He wasn't quite 12.
They should build a new ship that fits the criteria of Titanic. It should be the largest floating vessel ever made in weight, length, height, and width. It should be the nicest and most luxurious ship ever to be built, something that would surpass the most luxurious resorts and hotels of the world. And..it should be built to be unsinkable, or at least the most innovative in engineering and technology. What would something like that be like?
Half a mile long at 2,640 feet long?
600 ft wide? 350 ft tall? Not to mention the otherworldly and impeccable luxury it would have to sport. Just Imagine. They could call it the Titanica, or simply Titanic II.
33:46 That's the Olympic :-D :-)
Yes, the basic facts are well documented and well known...
...like there _totally_ being plenty enough room for both Rose AND Jack, on that wood panel!! 🚪 (or, whatever it was) 🤔
R.I.P.
Jack Dawson 🙏
It was an alien made door 👽
💡Ice warnings all day, 5 ships stopped for pack ice and Smith goes 22kts in the blackest of nights....10-15kts would have allowed them to avoid disaster....He must have been suicidal after he realized they would sink....his last voyage of an impeccable career and he kills himself, 1500 and a new ship...think about how his final hour or two of life was like..
I couldn’t even fathom what was going through his head those last 2 1/2 - 2 3/4 hours remaining of his life. I would have rather shot myself than freeze 🥶 to my death 💀 after saving as many lives as I possibly could have
He must have been experiencing a wide range of emotions during that time. Aside from the tradition of the captain going down with the ship, I would assume he had no interest in surviving and dealing with the fallout of what happened. He was well aware of the hell that would be.
@@Friscorockhead do you think he would have faced the “BAD REPUTATION” like J. Bruce Ismay did? Let’s say him and Thomas Andrews made a floating device. At least they didn’t get into a lifeboat like how Ismay did. I think it would have been acceptable if they made “ANYTHING” that could have allowed them to survive the sinking 🤷♂
@@ChairmanPaulieD I don't think he would've faced much backlash if he somehow managed to survive without using a spot on a lifeboat. It's human nature to fight for your life. I just think that he made the concious decision that he wasn't going to survive. He had almost 3 hours to ponder what his mistakes were. He was probably feeling a pretty high level of guilt, shame, and embarrassment and didn't want to live with that. If nothing else, he most likely knew they were traveling way too fast for the conditions. I'm just speculating, of course. Nobody knows but him.
@@Friscorockhead I agree with you 100% and you know what “whatever what was going through Captain Edward John Smith mind” those last 2 hrs & 45-55 minutes ONLY HE and GOD HIMSELF knows. And I think if I we’re in Captain Smith’s shoes those last couple of hours knowing that I was responsible for every single human life on that vessel and that I knew there wasn’t enough space for everyone in the lifeboats. I probably couldn’t live with myself anymore either
48:40 why would being 15 secs earlier or later matter? the ocean was calm, the iceberg would've been in the same spot either way
Capt. Lord never told reporters where he was he told them that information of that kind would have to come from the company's offices?! So the Titanic's story involves a captain who doesn't know where he was....
I like all those if-onlys... :-l
Just can't believe the answer Lightoller gave to question 14197 at the British inquiry
Can you suggest at all how it can have come about that this iceberg should not have been seen at a greater distance?
- It is very difficult indeed to come to any conclusion. Of course, we know now the extraordinary combination of circumstances that existed at that time which you would not meet again once in 100 years; that they should all have existed just on that particular night shows, of course, that everything was against us.
That's not the reasoning of a ship's officer, that's the reasoning of a teen. The court wasn't impressed, and the message seemed to be, as Walter Lord put it so well, that the accident was of the one-in-a-million variety. Friend of mine told me earlier today this is actually of the "preventable variety."
That teenager with the mouse. Haha. Wonder if he works with Ocean Liner Designs these days? :)
50:51 Yeah.... again, what was the Titanic's final destination? New York. What was the name of the ship she almost collided with? Of all names - New York. Holy....
I would bet that not one of Titanic's designers made the hubris claim of an unsinkable ship. Sounds like managerial types promoted that BS.
"This is probably the most famous film ever made (about Titanic, I assume) and will probably remain so." r/agedlikemilk considering the James Cameron movie that would come out a few years after this documentary.
JC was just wrapping up his Terminator 2 Judgment Day movie project and gearing up for True Lies in 1994-1995 with actor Bill Paxton who he would have in his 1997 film as Brock Lovett
@@ko7577 James Cameron was/is a Titanic fanatic. He has dived down to the actual wreck more than anyone else in history. His attention to detail of the ship itself in the film is immaculate. The length of time the movie spent in 1912; adds up to 2 hours and 40 minutes, the same amount of time the real ship took to sink, an attention to detail that no one notices; but was implemented anyway. They used real life models, some nearly life sized, and he spent an extraordinary amount of time making sure the sinking was as historically accurate as possible. He even set it up so that the placement of the stars from that night were accurate to the real thing. You can't say James Cameron doesn't have respect for the ship, that's just false. Some details were sacrificed or embellished for the sake of storytelling, that's inevitable, but he made a movie that got people fascinated with the real ship the same way A Night To Remember did, maybe even more so.
Both films have their merits and trash qualities, A Night To Remember is a monumental film, but its special effects (for example) are kinda trash. So many times I was like "That's obviously a miniature in a pool." sucking me out of the immersion. It also focused on too many characters at once, making it harder to fully get attached to any of them. I mixed up the female characters constantly. But I still respect the hell out of it.
James Cameron's one did have a rushed and unrealistic love story, but the effects still hold up, the score/music is phenomenal, the acting was great, and as I mentioned the attention to details were insane!
@@PeninsulaPaintings Oh, I'm not questioning his technical expertise or his knowledge of the ship or his ability to use modern tech to recreate the ship. He did a fine job on that. If he'd nixed some of the slop, I'd have called it the greatest movie in the world, but the actual plot of that movie was "Trauma bond set on the Titanic."
I'd love to see him go back and redo the movie with nothing but historical figures on the ship. Or even finding a real 3rd class or even 1st class story to build the plot around. The movie was breathtaking. It was like going on the Titanic yourself. But the Jack and Rose stuff, especially at the end with the boiler room, it just killed it. He could still redo a few scenes and make it a straight historical piece. Titanic had tons of drama. He could have picked two central characters - even the Astors (that's a love story of sorts), what a story there, or the Strausses, and the old wife going down with the ship because her husband couldn't get on a lifeboat). And God know show many other real people he could have built the story around.
I understand he spent a lot and had to recoup everything, and young, melodramatic love sells, but he could seriously do an amazing movie with just the real passengers someday. The Jack/Rose thing killed it for me. It was a love story set on Titanic, not a movie about Titanic. I'm in the minority here by a long shot. I wasn't opposed to a love story but the 1st/3rd class passenger scenario was just too unrealistic.
The Titanic's troubles began with her very name. "Titanic" is the adjective for "Titan", and, in Greek mythology, the Titans were a warrior race who waged war against Zeus, the so-called "God of Gods." That's the part of the story many know or have heard about. The other part is that they lost. They failed to overthrow Zeus, who smote the Titans to the bellows of the Earth with his lightning bolts. So, the Titanic is actually symbolic of defeat.
The greed of this channel is astounding its literally more commercial advertising than actual show about the titanic. if you are here to watch ads your in the right place if you want Titanic info keep moving. all the big business channels operate the same its disgusting
Creators of channels do not decide when ad's are played and how often. 😂. Absurd.
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The 300 ft gash is total bs the truth is the ice berge hit her like morse code pushing plates in every so many feet poping rivets allowing seams to open add it all together totaling a whole 2 1/2 ft in diameter allowing 100,000 gals a min 1 million every ten 6 million every hour allowing 2hours and 4o mins totaling 16 milion gals enough to sink the liner
Titanic or Olympic, still to many deaths for no reason
If you go along with the switch theory then the numbers of deaths make some sense as it's alleged that they were planning on having one or more rescue ships to pick up passengers as they were being loaded onto lifeboats. The fact that some lifeboats weren't filled to capacity with as little as just 12 people onboard, whilst others were filled to the brim, strongly points to the idea that for about the first hour after the collision the officers and Smith were not in a rush to get everyone into lifeboats because they were expecting a ship to come to the rescue. Only after they realised that this ship (likely Californian) wasn't coming afterall that they started to panic and the mad rush to get everyone into lifeboats as quick as possible began.
@@Embracing01 Californian had 55 officers and crew and cabins for just 47 passengers. Her length was approx half of that of Titanic. Where do you think they were going to put 2,208 people?
@@Dizzy19.eople can climb in, then get passed out to other ships as they arrive.
@@Lili-xq9sn There were no other ships! Carpathia took approx 4 hours to reach the lifeboats.
@@Dizzy19. California sat about 30 miles away. That captain was found at fault in both us and uk for not assisting titanic.
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@@Vingul that was two mos ago, you missed that boat. If you were black you would read between those lines.
@@arkethiaterrell1315 black people aren’t «allowed to learn about»?
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I enjoyed this. Except the Scientology guy and the floating body crap.
Christian Science not Scientology. Bit of a difference there lol
He was only talking about Lightoller's actual beliefs, ffs. And as the Comrade said, it's not Scientology. That didn't exist at the time.
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Titanic? I think you mean the Olympic
The title is correct. The wreck is 100% Titanic.
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The switch theory has been debunked numerous times
@@Will9719K Sure it has. And your vaccine is safe and effective
@@gordonhuskin7337 I’m not vaccinated…