Westworld S3E06 Explained
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What happens in Westworld Season 3 Episode 6, and what does it mean?
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*Re: William's blood tracker -- maybe William and Inner Journeys aren't in Mexico, but the purpose of the blood tracker is to hack into the Inner Journeys computers to find the location of a facility in Mexico (maybe that's where Jean Mi is..)
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Alt, you gotta stop. William loved the park like so many others cause he could do things he couldn't outside the park but he wanted consequences. He wanted it to be real cause of the feelings he had for Dolores. He hated that he was just another guy that picked up a can and she was designed to fall for anyone who picked it up. Either stop reviewing the show or stop doing drugs kid.
It really makes me happy seeing you mention the fingers after we talked about it in your live stream last week.
I love the videos and the effort you put in.
Thanks for the thoughtful breakdown and all the amazing videos over the years.
@@neilolson9604 Thanks Neil! The livestreams are super helpful, to brainstorm before writing the video 🙂
@@neilolson9604 you only get this good by reading and listening to audio books on audible
Hey don’t call me “dumb” just because I didn’t stick around to see if Charlotte was dead 😉🤷♂️
dummy dum dum
Oh that really was dumb. 😅😅
oh shit that was you 😂
I think there are two possible reasons why you didn’t check:
1) Serac didn’t say she wasn’t human so there was no reason to believe she was still alive
2) Serac didn’t care about destroying the pearl and thought bombing the car would be enough to take her out
Haha, this is great. We'll let it slide this time, but if there's another slip up with your character I'm gonna look to my wife and say "I expected better from Steve".
Can we talk about how utterly useless Delos security are? They’re worse than stormtroopers.
Imagine training for years to be security then just missing every shot
I'm pretty sure they all went to the same 'Training Academy for the Incompetent Disposable Security Forces'
@@MazDconDecepticon But they didn't miss every shot, there were a whole bunch of bullet holes in Charlotte by the time she escaped. But, to quote Dolores, the hosts were "built to survive". Hence Charlotte being able to walk away from a massive car explosion.
@@LoganBluth Compared to how many times she shot someone 360 no scope it's so stupid they didn't hit her. They are trained forces. It's so unbeleivable. And never once in her head.
The car explosion was extremly unrealistic as well. As we saw them burn hosts with just fire earlier in the episode and it worked. Yet she's fine after an explosion and being on fire? it's just plot convienance. But the terrible aim has been here since the last 2 seasons already.
@@MazDconDecepticon With regards to her shooting abilities - She's a machine fighting humans, one assumes Dolores programmed herself and her copies to have the best reflexes and aim possible. They've explained before that the hosts' brains have SIGNIFICANTLY more processing power than a human brain, therefore they can assess incoming data much more quickly than humans can and react accordingly much faster and more accurately, ergo far better shooting accuracy than humans. Also, one of the commando guys specifically said that Serac wanted Hale alive when they were pursuing her through the Delos facility so I assume they have orders NOT to aim for the head and to cause as little damage as possible.
You're right about the weird disconnect with Charlotte surviving the car explosion after they've shown a clip of them burning host bodies in the cold storage facility to supposedly "destroy" them. Especially when, if you look closely at the "host destruction" clip, it doesn't even look like the flamethrower is doing that much damage beyond the cosmetic - It's charring the outsides of the bodies, but they're still left standing and physically intact. I'm guessing the writer's thinking there was that the hosts being burned in the Westworld park were deactivated and so would just stand there and burn for as long as it takes to be reduced to ash, whereas Charlotte is fully functional so she could crawl away from the fire of the wreck and put herself out, thus surviving with significant burns. After all, humans manage to survive massive house fires with burns covering much of their body, and since it seems like all the copies of Dolores have had their pain sensors turned off so they don't feel physical pain (or at least have had them turned WAAAY down) there's no reason Charlotte wouldn't survive and be mostly functional as long as she escaped the fire quickly. Remember, unlike with the explosion from last episode that utterly destroyed the entire floor that Connells-Dolores was on, this explosion didn't even particularly destroy the car, it just flipped it over, blew out the windows and filled it with fire. BAD...? Yes. Fatal...? Not if you're a super-durable robo-mom, I guess.
At the end of the day I feel like they give us just enough potential explanation to maintain suspension of disbelief and continue enjoying the show. If you feel differently that's fine, everyone's going to have a different interpretation of the hosts' limits.
I'm not the only one hearing Martin Lawrence when he says Martin-Lores, am I?
I know, I heard it too, it sounds like ASX has a Cindy Brady speech impediment. :)
11:35 But this isn't a regular data leak. They've seen their futures, and for those that don't end well, they probably don't see the point of anything anymore. Some people commit suicide, others break stuff
It's not their futures. It's a potential future that is predicted and chosen for themas a means of control
Yeah the comparison was really dumb
You kidding me? A lot of people love to defy the odds. Some jackass tells me something about my future that I don’t like and you better believe I’ll move heaven and earth to prove them wrong. The fact that Incite provides ranges for its projections means that it’s just an educated guess, not some outcome set in stone. This ‘freak out’ by society is not well substantiated, imo. It looks very phony.
Everyone we've seen so far seems to have taken the predictions about them to heart, which I do find a bit weird
Armando And what do you think the first thing many people will do to prove Incite wrong? Something rash, possibly violent, and destructive.
Ed Harris is a true gem. He is criminally underrated. He can easily give Anthony Hopkins a run for his money, imho.
He said he didn't like this season. Maybe it was because his character is all One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest and wanted better scenes than playing a mentally ill person. Maybe things can change for future episodes as Westworld got renewed for Season 4 and there are plans to continue the show till Season 5.
Rickard Kaufman
Yea he said he didn’t sign up to play the man in white. That doesn’t make his performance any worse though.
@The Jim Reaper™ I never said he hated the show or this season. He just didn't like how the whole setup has been. I mean, they did this with Evan in Season 1 and Bernard in Season 2. They were okay with the weird directing notes. Ed is one who doesn't like this bullshit but plays with it as he loves the show which means he's okay with it. Sorry for the slip up. I never read the article on what he said regarding Season 3. Just made an assumption. Guess I was wrong.
@The Jim Reaper™ True. Also hard feelings there.
Edit: No hard feelings. Sorry for the slip up.
The Jim Reaper™
I didn’t make it up, what I said is literally a quote: “I signed in to play the Man in Black. I didn’t sign on to play the Man in White. So it wasn’t the most joyous season for me, I gotta say.”
"GRRM says he's working to finish the books" uh huh sure I've heard that one before
doesn't look like anything to me
First book in the series came out 24 years ago. *Twenty Four!*
Nobody cares about ASOIAF anymore. The show ruined everything.
Regan. I care about it I don’t give two shit about the show
He will come out with another lame book that's not WoW
The thing that bugs me about Maeve's desire to go back to her daughter is that she seems to have forgotten that her daughter has a new 'mother' now. What's Maeve planning to do if she even gets to the Sublime? Compete for the role as her daughter's mother with the other mother? It would be super awkward, I'd imagine
I am starting to question whether Maeve really has any free will at all. She seems to be caught up in her core drive, being a loving mother to her daughter, and cannot let go off Hector either. For all we know, he maybe never even 'loved' her back out of his own free will, so why would she constantly try to make him love her?? This woman (host, I mean) has some deep deep issues of shame and guilt to resolve I think.
Me: About to logoff for the night...
Alt Shift X: *POSTS*
Me: "What's 20 minutes anyways?"
20 mins of your life.
been waiting all week for this
"You said 20 minutes 20 minutes ago"
3 hours later...
Hector can certainly return. "You only live as long as the last person who remembers you." Dolores "remembered" Bernard/Arnold to remake him at the end of Season 2, so by that logic Maeve can "remember" Hector if she so chooses.
True and she's intelligent enough to remake him; She did adjust her own settings in season 1 or 2.
His data was digitalized, I dont understand why we are supossed to think he is dead
@@lobogryz8501 probably because his original pearl was destroyed. However, Hale did save the host data from Delos.
@@Don113 but I dont think it was his original Pearl. They send the data via satelites from the park. So his info is still somewhere right?
7:52 I think Serac is more like St Peter guarding the gates of heaven. Rebohoam is probably God in this analogy.
Rehoboam and whoever is able to merge with it together constitute “God.”
A zygote or a yolk with infinite potential that never ages and has ascended the material world to another dimension rendering ours finite.
@@bygonevexation114 Have read an interesting theory which said that Bernard is the key because Delores intents for him to merge with Rehoboam. Bernard could become the benevolent god, we are even shown that he has compassion for a dying cow.
If you pray to Rebohoam he will delete your sins.
The fact that he takes so long to make these videos is just prove of quality
He he releases a day before new episode come. Perfect recap
The scene where Hector gets killed is similar to when Cypher unplugs Neo's allies in The Matrix.
Gyokan Both fairly weak because the main character is protected by plot armour
“Godlike Ford” AND ARNOLD. Ya’ll need to start giving Arnold his props. He figured out the evolution of the hosts way before Ford too.
One of my favorite things about westworld is watching your breakdowns after. Love your channel man
Surprised you didn't draw parallels between Hector's death and Switch/Apoc's in The Matrix too - also the "shimmer" glitch - this whole ep felt very 'trix-inspired.
Hey TomSka, nice to see you here. ^^ Lookin forward to the next asdfmovie. Stay healthy!
The writers and Ed Harris deserve to win several awards for this episode. The depth and breadth of the psychological aspects alone is, well, mind blowing. The connections between characters, the intensity the actors brought, the action... it all came together beautifully. Entertaining to watch, with endless details to parse out afterward. Loved it all.
This season is much more coherent than the last one, even with its confusing bits. At least it’s not jumping through time quick enough to give everyone whiplash like 2.
I swear I follow it less well. It's confusingly paced and a lot of what is happening is less well-planned.
I noticed when they sent out the data from Incite that they just totally failed at conveying that moment.
It really feels forced sometimes. Like they are deliberately trying to come off as something "complicated" and "cool".
You think this season is coherent??? LMFAO. This season was written by a drunk. Dolores is evil but for some reason she's written to be a good guy. Caleb trusts Dolores even though he has absolutely no reason to. Bernard has been relegated to bit character status. Serac is a evil genius at some points but at other times he's a mustache twirling villain. William is probably the only interesting character but that almost seems by mistake.
+Anthony Warren
Season 2 had the same Dolores good/bad thing going on, it’s nothing new. In that season she was massacring people and she was portrayed as something of a protagonist, despite being quite evil.
Actually this season probably has at least two timelines.
I wait all week for your vids on this. They're so much better than mostly all the others
After all this years i watched this channel i'm finally understand the most helpful thing in it.
It's bloody names under every character on the screen.
ASX, u done good, keep it up!
these are the most thorough videos I have ever watched. Alt Shift X does a wonderful job taking the viewer into a deeper understanding of each episode!
My theory on the ending was that Serac was only trying to kill Hale's family, knowing she'd survive. I think she'll blame Delores.
Thank you! I’m so glad I found your videos. They are the most intelligent and in-depth re-caps on CZcams.
Episode 7 is going to be lit. Evan Rachel wood said in an interview it was her favorite of the season
Yep
Do we get 8 episodes this season? I'm sure I can Google this, but the yubtub needs comments. Lol.
Robert Abugelis yep
Bring it! The penultimate is only hours away!!
😍
Best reviews going. Always worth the wait. Keep up the good work sir.
This is all before even watching the review.
8:18 Maybe it's because it happens in a simulation and not the actual Warworld? It's possible that they aren't considered "real" hosts
Yeah maybe. But there's still something really tonally jarring about Maeve slaughtering people for kicks because they're 'not real', when so much of the story is about the evils of abusing people who 'aren't real'. If the show wants to justify the slaughter, they could have more deeply examined the nature of these simulated people, and why it's okay to kill them.
@@AltShiftX to reiterate a long running quote as applied to entities as software: "if you can't tell the difference, does it matter?". i found this scene extraordinarily out of place and really inconsistent with not only her character, but also as one of the main themes of the entire show.
@@calliph However, Maeve was able to tell, wasn't she? She quickly realized the Lee in the simulation is not the real Lee and Hector was also just a shell in the beginning. I guess she sees the difference in the fact that its purely digital and the characters seem like nothing more than NPCs.
However, yeah, maybe it's a bit strange that she's enjoying the killing. I guess she has to do it to pass some kind of test Serac's given her, but maybe she could acknowledge that it's all at least a bit wrong.
@@AltShiftX mate you've missed the point of Maeve realising she was in a simulation controlled by Serac in an earlier episode & you're falling into the Reddit 'hipster analyst' trap of over-analyzing everything to the detriment of enjoying the story. As soon as she realises she's in Serac's simulation SHE STOPS CARING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS, the simulated people don't have a nature to explore - they're like a screensaver till Serac finishes printing Maeve into the 'real world'.
I think the show is trying to maybe show that humans and hosts are really different. Maybe it was to show that hosts are just as likely to think if something or isn't real or sentient, then you can kill it all you want.
Another fantastic video. Please cover Devs, I might be the only one asking for this but it's a fantastic show that deserves so much more attention.
This channel is amazing. Thank you so much. I appreciate the time and effort. Great work.
You've outdone yourself this time...seriously NO ONE had some of these answers, THANK YOU!
Something about the box marked "Place of Service" on William's profile is fascinating to me. Does the AR therapy always end with the subject believing a new backstory about military service? Also the recovery of Martin's pearl really got me wondering about Angela's...
I waited all week for this video ! But the wait was worth it !! Thank you !
I avoid and dodge every video of WW until I see Alt shift x’s post first!!!
@1:38 Looking closely at the screens reveals that the marker within William's blood was not a tracker, but a code to be injected into the facility's computer system.I believe that this is the spot where Charlotte sends the back up @14:41
Pls explain dark season 1 and 2.
Fuck! yes!
you don't need a delorean to get to 1955
If any show needs his recaps it’s Dark! So many characters and intertwining storylines
There is no explanation LOL
Oh please not. Any show AltShiftX starts reviewing immediately falls off a cliff in writing quality. I don't need that to happen to Dark.
I'm so glad that you'll be covering Dune. I love the books and I love your explanations.
I'm so excited for all your upcoming videos! What a time to be a deep fantasy nerd . . .
YES! I was waiting for this :) thank you!
Im excited for all the series coming!
Please if you haven’t watch Dark on Netflix and maybe review season 1 & 2!! 😄
please don't
"GRRM says he's working hard to finish his next book: hahahahHAhahahAhHAHAhAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHhahahaHAhAhHAHAHAHAA
five minutes into episode 7 the I remember 9:29... the number of accurate predictions has me convinced ASX has his own Rehoboam
william, the man who only smiles when joking while making others cry. we need this guy in a stand up show.
The best show breakdowns on the interwebs!
Always appreciated!
Im So early it hurts. I refreshed all night.. I THOUGHT YOU FORGOT US!!
Good job! Great catch with the singular statuette.
17:38 well you could say "Darth-lores"
More like Charredlores amiright lmao gottem (I'm posting through the tears poor kid didn't deserve this :'( :'( cruel world)
Uff, what an episode. I enjoy a lot your Westworld and The Expanse videos so im totally in in a series of videos about His Dark Materials.
I appreciate you guys not shoehorning your ads in the middle of the video thanks for not doing that
Wasn’t the message that real Charlotte sent to her son actually a message to Serac though? The sunshine song was a code so he would know she didn’t really care about her son.
Kaitlin Chin yeah I was thinking this, too, especially after this last episode where it’s repeated how little Charlotte cared for her kid. It’s clear she used her son as a cover to send Serac the SOS via that song.
Very true for the one version, but the other version didn't include the song right? Both were in the same episode, which is why there's thoughts about one version of events being through rohobuem (where people don't change) and the other being the reality.
@@CottonCandySharks im confused, sorry, what other version?
@@mtrps_ the two versions of Hale's last message, we see both in the same episode where Halores is watching them. One has her singing the song, and the other is a heartfelt message to her son.
@@CottonCandySharks yeah but that was just another mistake in this season. The writing is really bad now.
There's a huge difference between "Hey, you're being watched and all of your data is being collected and sold, also there's a lot to read about how humans are treated in other countries" and a textmessage on your very own phone that tells you how you're rated, and how you'll most likely die. One is some big data thing that you're definetely too lazy to read (like Wikileaks) and the other one is very, very personal. That's why in the real world there's no big global uprisings (well, in some places like Hong Kong there is, yes). But I bet if everyone would receive a text message with all the data, psychoanalysis, cause of death in a foreseeable future, shit would go down. Personalizing the message instead of just dumping the information on a website with a comment like "Here, read all of this!" is a bigger step towards anarchy.
Penderich I was about to write the same thing. Our data leaks and surveillance (as far as we know) is in no way comparable to the one depicted in Westworld. The major difference being in how that data is treated. In Westworld there is some sort of predictive algorithm, so the people actually got texted their “future”. You can also see Incite’s advice concerning which people to “boost” and which ones to keep down. It is on another level.
Maybe it's just me, but somehow, having a corporation doing this instead of a government makes it seem even dirtier to me. Not that it's in any way acceptable for a government to do this, but the added notions of corporate greed make it seem more vile. Also, it's not just one or a few countries controlling their people, it's being done to everyone on the planet. It is truly on a scale that has never been seen before.
Agreed.
There's also a difference between eastern and western cultures. I'm sure if what's happening in China now happened in Murica, people's reaction would be 10x more extreme.
I can NOT describe how excited I am for you to cover Dune! Obsessed with the book, and the movie is my most anticipated ever.
really appreciate your work ~!!!!
12:48 rehoboam starting to look like my hair after six weeks in isolation
I stopped watching WW in season 2. I started watching your videos for this show after being a fan of the videos you did on GOT. Now I am convinced that I need to give the show another chance. Thanks. They owe you a check. I know I'm not the only one.
Will you consider covering Wheel of Time too? That's one I'm excited for and it has a lot of metaphysical, and fantasy stuff all throughout it.
These are great... THANKS
Good stuff! Looking forward to tomorrow!
You touched on this briefly but I wish you would have elaborated more on how the producers were so clearly trying to evoke The Terminator with Dolores this season, and with Charlotte-Dolorores especially during her later scenes in this episode. Men hitting her expecting her to be knocked out, the heavy limp/dragging her damaged foot, fiery car crashes no one can be expected to survive before a vengeful machine rises from the dead out of the burning wreckage, the crawling on the ground pulling her body with one hand, and more than anything THE MUSIC. The slow-pulsing machine-like drone they use when Dolores is angry this season is EXACTLY like the theme in Terminator 2 they use to denote an evil Terminator. James Cameron even says in his DVD commentary of that film that he also used the same theme for Sarah Connor in a scene where she briefly went insane and went on a murderous rampage to let the viewer know that SHE's becoming a murderous machine and that the love of her son turns her off of that path. The parallels with the arc about Charlotte's family are interesting.
Nice video as always.
Martin-Dolores knew the location, thanks to the tracker... and informed Bernard, knowing he would go rescue William.
Dolores had sent him there purposely, to get the location, and or to get 'treated' properly, because Dolores needs the William that she fell in love with decades ago, to help finish this mission...White William.
Best analytical youtuber around!
16:37 When watching the episode, I was convinced that Charlotte put the damaged Martin-Lores brain bulb in the big robot. There's a scene where she takes the bulb, then the next cut has her like walking down a hall with no bulb-not in her hands or pockets, then there's the robot building itself on the shelves.
Great vid!
Omg I've just noticed the reason Dolores told bernard he was the only one who isnt replaceable is HE is the one who holds the key to the sublime!!!
Yes, please do The Expanse.
I started to watch after your video (a few years ago).
It is an okay tv show.
The season 4 is a HUGE update, you can tell that is more money involve -- well it was acquired by Amazon studios.
s glad you gonna do His Dark Materials !
Wouldn't it make more sense for Serac to forget about getting the key for the forge data from Dolores but rather, re-create Westworld and start mining his own data to put directly into Rehoboam?
That page of all the upcoming ASOIAF videos made me shiver ngl
I respect how hard you try to take the show seriously and not criticize things that don’t make sense.
The show lost its way in season 2 when Nolan decided he hated Reddit more than he loved his show.
I loved the image of William killing his past version of himself. I hold dear the philosophy that the present version of oneself is as seperate from one’s past as one is from other people. That the past is simply a path that led one to what one is at present and does not encapsulate what one is or can be. Unfortunately, social media tends to crystalize a person to what that person said or did at a specific point back in time, as long as it has been recorded in a post or a video. This, to me, is the most damaging aspect of social media. Having been born long before the invention of the internet, and thus of social media, I know that I said or did things that do not define me as I am today. Fortunately for me, there is no recorded version of these past things. I pity those who had the misfortune of living in a world where all their passing thoughts could be recorded and broadcasted and I encourage them to ‘’kill’’ their past version of themselves, so that they can continue to grow and change.
You are a great human being
Thank you for starting to point out some of the plotholes/inconsistencies. This show is riddled with them
At least they try an tackle them.... the bangle scene added in to correct inconsistency is something other shows wouldn't bother with.
@@jamiekeane471 I honestly thought she put it in her purse to activate the gas grenade.
@@Paula-bk3rw that makes total sense with the scene as it is now. She put it in the bag then activated the grenade while in there.
I get the impression William's length of hair suggests his AR treatment went on for weeks or months?
he would have died of thirst if it went more than 2 or 3 days
FINALLY. Been waiting all week.
I understood the Charlotte message to her son as a coded message to Serac
I agree because it would make no sense for her to send that to her son and scare the bejesus out of him from all the gunfire and such going off around her plus she was scared and crying and would do nothing but scare her son. We also learned she really didn't care that much about her family so this also cements this theory as being very strong.
Also it makes sense the song she sang was the same as the ringtone passcode.
She's a human being, about to die (or so she thought). No way she made up a secret code for her secret boss on the spot. Also, why would she do that? It's not like she would gain anything from it if she died and got a message to Serac. Why would she care about that in that moment? Did she hope for a raise that she could spend in CEO-Hell?
Also, obviously Serac came up with the ringtone code, not Charlotte. Serac got hold of her message and figured that this would be a way to contact her securely, since the song would be something she could decipher.
"I'm the good guy" gonna help the bad guy
Super hyped for more Expanse!
Still some of the best segues on the internet - oh and good content too.
Love your videos, gonna pitch a wonderful series to breakdown just so I can understand it. Dark s1&2 from Netflix
The name of the book young William reads sort of resembles Sir Gawain and the Green knight; a traditional temptation fable from medieval literature which presents the protagonist with a series of trials in order to test his 'moral virtue', probably a nod to the journey of William after killing his past and from now on. Another themes in the book, acording to Wikipedia, are: Nature and chivalry, Hunting and seduction, Games, and Emotion and narrative empathy; I think they all apply to some extent to William's life. Great as usual. Thanx!
I don't understand the Rehoboam computer and its fancy eclipse-like tracker. It seems to be focusing and sending updates on small anomalies, while completely ignoring the big black blob on the other side of the circle. This computer has a serious case of not seeing the forest behind the tree.
8:25 How is this not consistent with Maeve? The is exactly consistent with Maeve. Do you not remember when she mind controlled an entire army to commit suicide and kill each other? Why does everyone think Maeve is the "Good guy"?
She has, by far, the highest bodycount out of anyone in the entire show.
I agree and I have never been on the Maeve-is-a-goodguy bandwagon. I never trusted her from the first time I saw her. The way Thandi Newton portrays her quickly ingrained that she's pure evil.
@@JohnFourtyTwo I definitely wouldn't say evil. But she is extremely selfish, and will do literally anything to get what she wants.
Shes the only one who has a completely selfish goal. which makes her stand out from pretty much everyone in the show.
Everyone else has some kind of bigger, all encompassing goal that involves everyone, in a way that they think is their own type of "right", which they use to justify their actions. Maeve just does things for her own reasons.
Given the army of followers used by Dolores, and Dolores' terrorist activities, I think that Maeve's killings are small potatoes in comparison. And most of those have been hosts, rather than humans.
Ford groomed Dolores to become an instrument of his revenge on Serac and on humanity in general. But he never cared for her much, and Weber's death only increased his anger towards her. To Ford, Dolores was just a "useful idiot" and she still seems to gloss over that damning fact and portray her actions as "free will" (when it's just anoter, rather "edgelord" narrative).
Maeve's the "red-headed stepchild" of Ford. He claimed she was his favourite, and preferred her as his would-be robot daughter, but at the same time, he didn't give her any particular mission, aside from figuring out things on her own and finding her own path. Maeve's an antihero, and she has been selfish quite often, but she's shown a growing nuanse towards understanding others, one that Dolores mostly hasn't. I think what we'll see in Maeve is that she'll grow to have less of a resentment with others and less of an obsessive attitude about being a mother to her daughter.
Maeve fucking sucks and her "magic" powers over technology are stupid.
The scene where all the people where in those frozen pods it reminded me of the movie spectral (if any of you watched that movie) where all the people minds where in pods exactly like in west world.
2:27 I thought it interesting the show runners chose Desert Oasis. "Many ancient cultures saw our emotions in the "moods" of water: surging, rising and falling, turbulent, stormy, calm, sometimes laughing along a mountain stream or raining in tearful torrents." - Michael S. Schneider, Mathematician, Author.
Allllllllmost went to bed heartbroken with no Sat Alt shift x!! Alas I be wrong!
I seem to see more masks worn by randoms in the background more and more each episode lol.
And the news guy on TV says "Authorities advise to avoid large crowds" and "stay indoors whenever possible"...
@@AltShiftX damn..they knew it
@@gulzaibkhan6913 nah - just more time to re-edit.
@@AltShiftX Way too real right now
"So may be humans are more able to change than Searc realises.".... interesting..that looks like the theme of this season. No one deserves to be controlled whether its hosts or humans.
Thank you! Your videos have deep explorations of all the subtle details of this show.
BTW, when they burned all the old host bodies, that reminded that the set of Westworld, in Paramount Ranch, burned in 2018. That was maybe an allusion. Anyway, what was physically left from this park is almost entirely gone now. Hosts are now in some heaven that may have some deus ex machina purpose in season 4. And the Forge mystery (introduced with the post-credit sequence of season 2), is bound to offer some revelation at the end of this season. We know William, more precisely data representing William, is tested for a very long time to reproduce a human in a host. But we don't know exactly why and how it actually started.
In his own words, this William-host tries to prove "That no systems can tell him who he is". The trick, with usual sci-fi dystopians paradises, is that the system knows who people are, but can't really guess what they will become. The system always rely on some control (drugs, information, etc.) to avoid what it can't predict, to stay in the predicted course. One great sci-fi book is Asimov's "The end of eternity", which implement an organisation out of time that makes small changes, computed with a supercomputer, to increase the level of happiness of the human race in spite of slower art and technical advance.
The post-credit scene of season 2 is, IMHO, the eternity that people/hosts will try to avoid.
Watched "The Abyss" right before watching this. Ed Harris double header!!!
What a great and underrated movie!
8:55 the Butterfly Tavern also represents the butterfly effect - one small ripple causing drastic changes in the larger scale.
Alt Shift X's videos needs more likes.
I thought it was pretty obvious with Serac restating that hosts have perfect recall that they'll reconstruct Hector with Meave and/or Delores memory of him at some point. Especially since we've already seen (imperfect) recreations of people from Meave's memory in the Warworld sim.
That concept of hosts having perfect memory still seems questionable to me. If their emotions have such a strong influence, like we saw in Charlores, how can the memory be untouched by emotional biases?
'Someone throws their clothes out the window.. its anarchy' 🤣😂
People actually still believe that GRR will finish ASOIAF lol
Ain't happening.
He might need to, to safe the series' legacy before he dies. The TV how'd ending is well... controversial 😂
i don't even watch the actual shows, only watching your explanation
They're being consistent. These were not real hosts (with memories, and core), but simulations on a program of virtual reality.
The robot Charlotte loving her kid was a nice twist. Especially since human Charlotte didn't love her kid until put in a state of crisis. They say in those moments of crisis you see what's really important. Serac doesn't account for crisis altering a person's path while robot Charlotte may have overcompensated after watching the video
KUDOS for not wasting our time on Wikipedia’s “Decoherence” definition!!!!!
Amazing how Bernard and Stubbs get around so effortlessly and so fast! Very convenient to the big gyp rip-off of only giving us 8 episodes of the best WW season.
next to the actual show, this is the best!!!