Watchmen: A Clock Without A Craftsman

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  • čas přidán 12. 08. 2018
  • "Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
    This video essay looks at whether it's possible to impart meaning accidentally, by looking at Zack Snyder's Watchmen. I discovered the film first (which was really cool at the time) and eventually the graphic novel by Alan Moore, Dave Gibbons, and John Higgins, which has much more intent and meaning.
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  • @craftpaint1644
    @craftpaint1644 Před 4 lety +1815

    I like how in the book Dr Manhattan was asked why he didn't save JFK and he explained that John was being shot at the same time they first shook hands; meaning that experiencing all time all at once is to exist in a information paradox.

    • @Pedro-zu3uq
      @Pedro-zu3uq Před 4 lety +117

      Didn't know what a information paradox was, now i do, many thanks internet stranger

    • @DavidTSmith-jn5bs
      @DavidTSmith-jn5bs Před 4 lety +245

      I was thinking about how Dr. Manhattan called himself "a puppet who could see the strings." While he was aware of what was going to happen, he was as powerless to stop it as anyone else, like when The Comedian killed the Asian woman who was pregnant with his child. To quote the Tralfamadorians in Slaughterhouse 5, "The moment was structured that way."

    • @PabloYaos
      @PabloYaos Před 4 lety +56

      @Sohan Biswas appreciating an evocative sentence sure is more childish than treating people as shit because they do!

    • @christianalanwilson434
      @christianalanwilson434 Před 4 lety +93

      Its interesting when you realize that Dr. Manhattan was by FAR the most powerful being in the Watchmen universe, but he was also the most passive and seemingly uncaring because he literally saw too much. The big picture was all and the little things started mattering less and less to him.

    • @PabloYaos
      @PabloYaos Před 4 lety +29

      @Sohan Biswas haha not really but good try. At least I'm not insecure enough that I need to answer aggressively to people sharing their feeling about a work of art to feel some kind of superiority. But it's ok, to each his own. Decent people talks about concepts, small people talks about people.

  • @sebastiangomezletelier1367
    @sebastiangomezletelier1367 Před 5 lety +1864

    The Watchmen comic is a miracle, totally unrepeatable, and this movie, while clumsy and confused at times works great as a homage.
    Everybody knows that it cannot be topped, it can only be admired

    • @anroburger7689
      @anroburger7689 Před 5 lety +57

      The book is in a league of iets own, it's unbelievably nuanced, and meticulously planned. And its made to BE a comic about comics. Allan Moore is a legend.

    • @sethstartix
      @sethstartix Před 4 lety +46

      @seb --- Bingo.
      Also big surprise - a film wasnt as adaptable to a million different minds as a graphic novel. 10/10 still better than almost every other cinema adaptation of graphic novels.

    • @farmandoart5850
      @farmandoart5850 Před 4 lety +5

      This comment is exactly what I always thought 👏

    • @NebMunb
      @NebMunb Před 4 lety +5

      Settle down, its slightly above average at best n

    • @jnnx
      @jnnx Před 4 lety +7

      Anro Burger If only Charlie Kaufman adopted the movie...

  • @crazziemonkke
    @crazziemonkke Před 4 lety +658

    “The film is Eyes Wide Shut, while the book is the parody from Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia”
    Genius!

    • @atenakehnaton3965
      @atenakehnaton3965 Před 4 lety +34

      I've always compared what Boogie Nights is to porn Watchmen is to the super hero genre.

    • @atenakehnaton3965
      @atenakehnaton3965 Před 4 lety +7

      @Michael Freed If you think that's perverse you need to get off the internet. NOW

    • @desa2208
      @desa2208 Před 4 lety +9

      IM THE TRASH MAN

    • @edifiedreader
      @edifiedreader Před 3 lety +9

      "You can't tell under the mask."
      "I absoLUTELY can tell under the mask!!"

  • @Astupid13NAme
    @Astupid13NAme Před 4 lety +933

    dude, that edit you did where Dr. Manhattan voices over the meeting between Lori and Dan while changing scenes was smooth af

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 Před 4 lety +42

      Astupid13NAme - it’s the one case where Nolan’s style of over-trimming, and cross-cutting like a giant montage, would actually be appropriate for the source material.

    • @Astupid13NAme
      @Astupid13NAme Před 4 lety +77

      @@samwallaceart288 not only that, it especially works with Dr. Manhattans character since time is essentially irrelevant to him.

    • @ashlike270
      @ashlike270 Před 4 lety +5

      My thoughts as well!

    • @oliaustfjor6247
      @oliaustfjor6247 Před 4 lety +1

      @@samwallaceart288 But Nolan had nothing to do with this film

    • @praveensukabrahmam
      @praveensukabrahmam Před 4 lety +4

      Indeed... After watching bvs and this video, i think it's slick af, why didn't Zack do this?

  • @federicoarmada8775
    @federicoarmada8775 Před 4 lety +64

    You know, Laurie attacking straight to thr camera could have added a whole new meaning to the scene in a very cinematic way, but we cut away too early for that to work.
    It would've been great to see the glass shattering from the other side of the glass.

  • @doktor_ghul
    @doktor_ghul Před 4 lety +401

    In the end, the movie made more people who aren't comic fans or Moore fans aware of the graphic novel, and maybe even inspired sales to go up, which might have made them admire the original and see how unfocused the movie is. The graphic novel will never go out of print. That's the best thing about the movie; it's an excellent ad for the novel.

    • @leighfoulkes7297
      @leighfoulkes7297 Před 4 lety +6

      For me, Alan Moore brought me back to comics (I stopped reading when I was a teenager) and made me interested in comics again but... I've not read anything else but Alan Moore either. Well, I did like "The Incal", anything by Mobius Neil Gaiman's Sandman serious and a few Charles Burns comics. But then again, none of those are super heroe comics except for Alan Moore's.

    • @fbritannia
      @fbritannia Před 4 lety +13

      @@leighfoulkes7297 Well, the solution seems simple enough. read other things that aren't Super Hero comics, the medium is too vast and beautiful to reduce it to one genre.

    • @mintbericrunche9437
      @mintbericrunche9437 Před 4 lety +2

      Yup I read the novel first but only because I had heard of it through the film coming out.

    • @jazzypom
      @jazzypom Před 4 lety +4

      @ He's moved on, I think. I remember being in an audience when someone asked him about the Watchmen a few years ago, and he was over it. He had his magic and his noves. But he just won't get into comics and ask people not to talk to him about his comic book work. Which, you gotta respect the principle/

    • @Violent_Mitch
      @Violent_Mitch Před 4 lety +7

      The movie was not "unfocused" for me. It did make me want to read it, they are different mediums. Every other adaptation would have made many more changes than Zack ever did, which was very few.

  • @davidbliss5220
    @davidbliss5220 Před 4 lety +494

    I love your re-edit at 13:40
    Makes it feel like you're peering through time with Dr. Manhattan

    • @TotallyNotKanye
      @TotallyNotKanye Před 8 měsíci +2

      Nah it sucks man 😂 plus during the "numbness" part… he either doesn’t understand dr.manhattan or… idk… or that he’s not objective enough and he was watching the objective critically since the very first frame… because the movie has some "grant morrison" vibes and the dr manhattan character feeds that. The whole movie feels like a trip and feels like you’re dr manhattan

    • @themakerstoolbox9688
      @themakerstoolbox9688 Před 6 měsíci +1

      His edit feels like a trailer. It gives you all the information but leaves out the emotion. I guess it does feel a little like gow Dr Manhattan sees the world but the original edit really drives home the loneliness of Dr Manhattan. It also leaves a little suspense on the table with Dan maybe getting in over his head by maybe dating the girlfriend of a real super human.

  • @jaredcress4328
    @jaredcress4328 Před 2 lety +122

    "The reality is that for anyone to decide to go out in the streets wearing a costume to beat up criminals, they are inherently weird... This is the point of Watchmen: dressing up in costumes is silly"
    One of the most basic and central themes to the book that I think both the movie and HBO series missed. This is an excellent video, I think all the points you made here are perfectly presented and spot on

    • @catra.dora1685
      @catra.dora1685 Před rokem +15

      I think the HBO series does a way better job. For example: Adrien looks fucking silly when he wears his costume in the HBO series.

    • @TJMaxximalist
      @TJMaxximalist Před rokem

      Strange how I keep catching you in the comments cuz

    • @jaredcress4328
      @jaredcress4328 Před rokem

      @@TJMaxximalist We gotta stop meeting like this...

  • @macaroon6593
    @macaroon6593 Před 4 lety +176

    Holy shit that edit of the Jon/Laurie/Dan scene is great

  • @thekneesbee
    @thekneesbee Před 4 lety +38

    I think like most people there's a complicated relationship with Watchmen, and the musical bits with montage does take some away, but I will say I loved the opening. It was a great way to establish the passage of time, the consequences, and the time period. Zack Snyder did do a great job at that. Just wish it could have been a mini series at least, there's so much intricacy and detail it would never have been able to fit in a film.

  • @vincentdawn9689
    @vincentdawn9689 Před 4 lety +22

    Considering Reznor is now scoring the series, it's quite a lovely coincidence that an excerpt of "Pilgrimage" kicks in at about 8:14.

  • @taari1
    @taari1 Před 3 lety +31

    It's the only movie really that has something to do with superheroes that I actually liked. It was amazingly flawed, but at the same time, I liked it. I can't explain why.

  • @isaachanan5705
    @isaachanan5705 Před 4 lety +57

    I remember watching this movie years ago, having no prior knowledge of The Watchmen. After watching this video, I think I'll give the graphic novel a read.

    • @michaelvessel4604
      @michaelvessel4604 Před 4 lety +9

      You should read it, it truly is one of the best graphic novels out there imo. Say what you will about him now, but Alan Moore in his prime was a genius, as was Dave Gibbons.

  • @MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive

    14:14 I watched Watchmen in the theaters with friends who had never read the book and they walked out of the theater thinking every Watchmen had super powers. They came out of the movie asking questions like _"Aside from super intelligence does Ozymandias have super speed like the Flash? I mean that scene where there was the attempted assasination he just strolled through those executives before the gunman could even pull the trigger and calmly knocked him out. He had to have super speed right?_ (One also tapped me on the arm and asked _"He's the bad guy right?"_ The MOMENT Adrian appeared with that psuedo Transatlantic-British-German accent and mustache twirling demeanor instead of the sad and troubled man bearing the weight of the world from the comics.) _Did every Watchmen have super strength? Rorschach is coming back right? He must has Wolverine healing abilities since he got up from those vicious beatings? Does his magic mask grant him those abilities? What's the origin behind his magic mask?"_

    •  Před 4 lety

      it's not like Veidt couldn't catch bullet in comics or Rorschach could walk on Antarctic in coat, or climb building by the rope on his own strenght, or defeat SWAT team with DYI weapons he made on the go.
      Do at least one of them, see how ordinary that is.

  • @rencosbjd
    @rencosbjd Před 4 lety +188

    He's the one
    Who like all our pretty songs
    And he likes to sing along
    And he likes to shoot his gun
    But he don't know what it means

    • @AIIEYESONME
      @AIIEYESONME Před 4 lety +15

      Hey, this smells pretty good.

    • @swissidol8403
      @swissidol8403 Před 3 lety +5

      damn. kurt cobain ended snyder’s career before he even got started.

    • @LuisMartinez-rw2lj
      @LuisMartinez-rw2lj Před 3 lety +5

      Commenter 10 because Zach Synder is a comic fan who loves all the comics and loves watchmen and loves the story but he doesn’t know the theme of the story

    • @farenheit2456
      @farenheit2456 Před 3 lety +1

      No set of lyrics describe all those edgy, Rorscach-loving Watchmen misinterpreters better than those.

  • @Vapor817
    @Vapor817 Před 4 lety +269

    I'd pay money to see your own feature-length edit of Zack Snyder's Watchmen tbh. Those scenes were kickass.

    • @ISAbyanymeans
      @ISAbyanymeans Před 4 lety +4

      poppyface I agree

    • @yyZiggurat
      @yyZiggurat Před 4 lety +15

      RELEASE THE TRIBBLE-CUT
      It would have to be free since making money from it directly would attract the lawyers.

    • @Vapor817
      @Vapor817 Před 4 lety +13

      @@yyZiggurat even a free version might still attract attention from lawyers

    • @yyZiggurat
      @yyZiggurat Před 4 lety +17

      @@Vapor817 True. But a free alternate cut available on torrent sites from several sources or shared from person to person would make it harder for copy right lawyers to find a target

    • @theunforgivenmoon
      @theunforgivenmoon Před 4 lety +4

      @@yyZiggurat We're all in this together!

  • @devilmaylift
    @devilmaylift Před 4 lety +35

    18:14
    Okay so this muffled, somewhat distorted version of All Along The Watchtower seems ever more chilling. You see the bodies piled and one of the most powerful people in existence saying "he can't do anything"
    I honestly think there needs to be a remake, but with more gritty but unflattering moments.
    But the impending doom is perfect. And I think that covers it perfectly. Straight out of a horror film

  • @MrHEC381991
    @MrHEC381991 Před 5 lety +491

    "I don't read the words, I just like when he punches people" - Bart Simpson.
    "This will look cool" - Zack Snyder.

    • @residentgrigo4701
      @residentgrigo4701 Před 4 lety +20

      And that´s why he hired Dave Gibbons to remake the comic in the form of storyboards for this film. Sure fam. Gibbons publically likes the film btw.

    • @chka1043
      @chka1043 Před 4 lety +1

      @@residentgrigo4701 Such a valid counter to OPs comment!

    • @aolson1111
      @aolson1111 Před 4 lety +3

      @ Co-creator? You mean, guy who drew what Alan Moore told him to?
      I mean, it's no surprise that he liked it, the one thing the movie did somewhat correctly is capture the look of the comics.

    • @user-mx4is4fx3c
      @user-mx4is4fx3c Před 3 lety +3

      @Wandile Mtambo You know what I think? It's not even about the movie. It's about Snyder. Suddenly everyone is rewatching the movie now and they now say it doesn't understand the novel and it's bad While back then it got rave audience reviews. So why that change now?
      I'll tell you. Because people are trying to find ways to satisfy and justify their hate boner for Zack Snyder because his movies didn't beat Marvel. In other words, fanboy mob logic

    • @user-mx4is4fx3c
      @user-mx4is4fx3c Před 3 lety +2

      @Wandile Mtambo That's not a conspiracy but the truth.
      Just look at negative review videos like this or the Watchmen doesn't get Watchmen video:
      1. Most negative reviews from back then either say it's too long or too boring for a superhero movie. Which make sense for an Alan Moore adaptation from a general audience perspective. Most negative audience reviews from 2017 and forward are following the "Snyder is a hack that doesn't get comics" narrative
      2. The comments of these negative videos are moreso about bashing Snyder and re-enforcing the affromentioned narrative than actually talking about the movie
      3. Most negative Watchmen review videos came two or three years ago. The point where everybody was hating Snyder because the DCEU failed to beat Marvel
      These prove that what I say is more than likely correct

  • @MADVILLAIN669
    @MADVILLAIN669 Před 4 lety +28

    For years I was never able to fully articulate the reason why the watchmen movie felt odd to me, thank you so much, this was beautiful!
    However, I would have also liked if you included that lack in subtlety in small details, like showing the Who Watches The Watchmen sign in full

  • @HerohammerStudios
    @HerohammerStudios Před 5 lety +46

    Hands down best Watchmen 'review' on the entire platform

  • @Bonko78
    @Bonko78 Před 4 lety +14

    And yet, I think it's Snyder's best movie. I do admire him for trying to film the purportedly "unfilmable" ones. Both "Watchmen" and "300" are books that fit the feature film format very poorly (for different reasons) but he still went for it and made a surprisingly decent action flick here. I think it does look better when compared to the other Snyder movies than with the original book, though.

  • @DocMortsnarg
    @DocMortsnarg Před 4 lety +81

    Oh my god, the comparison of the book/movie of Watchmen to Eyes Wide Shut and Always Sunny is so unexpected but so perfect!

  • @WarCriminalPhlox
    @WarCriminalPhlox Před 4 lety +90

    Amazing video lad. It's very well made, well argued, and quite thorough. I'm amazed at how well you managed to present the problems I've had with the movie, and even bring more stuff to my attention. Truly a phenomenal video essay

  • @nerychristian
    @nerychristian Před 4 lety +172

    The 1990 TMNT movie is criminally underrated. I consider it one of the best graphic novel adaptations of all time.

    • @maxhydekyle2425
      @maxhydekyle2425 Před 4 lety +12

      Then came the Michael Bay movies

    • @KreativeHogwartsLegacyGUIDES
      @KreativeHogwartsLegacyGUIDES Před 4 lety +5

      was it really? because i loved that film. was that the one where shredder had this really cool club house where kids go and hang out?

    • @maxhydekyle2425
      @maxhydekyle2425 Před 4 lety +5

      @@KreativeHogwartsLegacyGUIDES Oh yea, Skeet Ulrich was there and everything, but as Dan O'brien said online gaming really would've ruined Shredder's gangs entire appeal.

    • @shaderax_storm6165
      @shaderax_storm6165 Před 4 lety +11

      And never forget that no film company on the planet wanted to make that it, so it ended up being the highest grossing independent film of all time for a long stretch of the Guinness book of records history. Classic film that is often forgotten nowadays

    • @maxhydekyle2425
      @maxhydekyle2425 Před 4 lety +2

      @@shaderax_storm6165 Didn't Blair Witch beat it just a few years later? Or was that just in return on investment?

  • @leighfoulkes7297
    @leighfoulkes7297 Před 4 lety +44

    I love the whole idea that Zack Snyder, a libertarian, would make this movie a comic book that bashed libertarian ideas. Rorschach is supposed to be a character based on Ayn Rand ideas (she is a heavy libertarian influence) and Alan Moore turned him into a psychotic mass murdering lunatic that is sexually confused. Alan Moore did show pity on the guy by giving him a real sob story that makes you sympathies with him (he did the same with the Joker) but still, he made it clear that Rorschach was insane pathetic anti-hero.

    • @Kta8548i
      @Kta8548i Před 3 lety +2

      How do you know zack is a libertarian. when has he ever said so? are you just guessing and giving ou minsformation

  • @Crowley9
    @Crowley9 Před 4 lety +278

    I feel like the opening fight between The Comedian and you-know-who sums up the problem with Snyder. First, the comic shows The Comedian is dead before it shows any of the fight itself. When reading the fight scene in the original, I get a feeling of despair and futility. This is a pitiful, broken down old man who is putting up a hopeless fight against a superior opponent. Snyder looks at that, and what he sees is a wicked cool action scene!

    • @darz_k.
      @darz_k. Před 4 lety +26

      Thumbz up for giving a gog and avoiding a spoiler

    • @arempy5836
      @arempy5836 Před 4 lety +48

      Snyder's the apotheosis of the 90s comics. Imitating watchmen but completely misunderstanding it. Seeing all the sex and violence but none of the thought yet still thinking he's saying something.

    • @v0ldy54
      @v0ldy54 Před 4 lety +35

      Never thought the comedian had any hope watching the movie, his opponent is always clearly superior to him

    • @thewitcherking937
      @thewitcherking937 Před 4 lety +35

      How? It shows the comedian to be a seasoned fighter but still his opponent is superior to him. You still feel his futility. Even he acknowledges it.

    • @thewitcherking937
      @thewitcherking937 Před 4 lety +11

      @@arempy5836 certainly not. He understands watchmen and uses to satirize comic book movies.

  • @Kerwin-Kendell
    @Kerwin-Kendell Před 4 lety +37

    I read the graphic novel long before the film, and I knew the film would not be the comic, or truly great. But the film was great in it's own way, and offer's a lot. If general audiences can't or couldn't get something out it, that's their loss & problem.

    • @Kerwin-Kendell
      @Kerwin-Kendell Před 2 lety

      @bella_-_ great to read your thoughts! Let me know if you read the graphic novel & whose your fave character.

    • @Kerwin-Kendell
      @Kerwin-Kendell Před 2 lety

      @bella_-_ the graphic novel has a lot the film didn't have and it's more in-depth. There's also a motion comic of the graphic novel on youtube (they use all the original art).

  • @mariod1547
    @mariod1547 Před 5 lety +115

    This might be the best video essay on the film and book I've seen. Good job!

    • @verybored1261
      @verybored1261 Před 3 lety +1

      Not to be a dissenting opinion, but you should defs check out kaptainkristian's video as well!

  • @fairyeater
    @fairyeater Před 4 lety +122

    i think zack snyder working from the perspective of hollis mason is the only way he could’ve adapted a comic like watchmen as a film and kept (a majority) of its integrity

    • @alexamegiddo2083
      @alexamegiddo2083 Před 4 lety +11

      It's also easy to see it now as a parody of the superhero films that were then being made "gritty" and "real world", its a movie using the same story with some changes as the original story but also making a point about movies like the Dark Knight

    • @Zuri_SM
      @Zuri_SM Před 4 lety +11

      @@alexamegiddo2083 which is kind of funny because Snyder would go on to create dark and "gritty" super hero movies that he essentially parodied with watchmen.

    • @DavidTSmith-jn5bs
      @DavidTSmith-jn5bs Před 4 lety +6

      That was the only thing about the "adaptation" that disappointed me: the absence of the excerpts of Hollis' book "Under the Hood." I particularly liked how he responded to the question "How does it feel to be a costumed character in real life?" While the contemporary costumes were suppose to look "cool" because that's what the "mainstream audience" would have expected, the idea that wearing a costume in public is just as ridiculous as seeing a middle-aged man wearing a "padded bra" adds a bittersweet note to Hollis' story. Of course, even "Tales of the Black Freighter" was added to an expanded DVD so it's understandable that this would have made this a 4-5 hour film, so I'll just read the book like other people should and not gripe over what wasn't included in the film.

    • @DavidTSmith-jn5bs
      @DavidTSmith-jn5bs Před 4 lety +2

      @Cynical Joker It's true that a documentary TITLED Under the Hood was made BASED on Hollis' book but we didn't get to hear an actual excerpt from it. My point was that we fans of the original story can go on and on about what was cut out of the original story that reduced the quality of what we read but most movie-goers aren't going to sit for four to five hours to watch a faithful rendering of a classic novel. You would be the exception rather than the rule.

    • @mexicantimberwolf
      @mexicantimberwolf Před 4 lety +7

      ​@@Zuri_SM Zack didn't parody superhero movies with Watchmen so much as he thought it was a cool book and wanted to make it into a movie. I remember reading about how Zack didn't really like comics except for graphic novels like Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns, specifically because of how much darker and grittier they were.

  • @actordylancross
    @actordylancross Před 4 lety +19

    Understand this, as a filmmaker myself, we are ARTIST. We create as well as adapt. It is in our blood. Now, when comics or books are adapted, it is important to still have creative freedom on the things we adapt. Because if not, we are just stealing a story and saying "I want money from this too". Take batman and take the Dark Knight trilogy. Those were darker than any other Batman comics I read, even the dark ones. But it was Christopher Nolan's dream allied with the Batman stories that made it great. For watchmen, I think Snyder showed Moores work amazingly while also showing his love and potential as a director, and that's why I love it.

  • @christyseagraves8774
    @christyseagraves8774 Před 5 lety +9

    Another amazing video! This taught me some subtle (and not so subtle) differences between film and comic mediums that can’t really be interchanged. Very strong re-edits and a very clever ending! Also loved the montage and dialogue overlay starting at 18:13, it really works!

  • @heroeagleeye8141
    @heroeagleeye8141 Před 4 lety +27

    tfw you just finished Watchmen, just started Slaughterhouse-Five, and are in the middle of watching Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex before watching this video. Fantastic essay, and god tier taste, my friend.

    • @jnnx
      @jnnx Před 4 lety

      You just mentioned the same mass market media everyone else is into, and because you are into it too, you label it “God tier taste”? No wonder most modern criticism and media analysis is dead, aka this is why we can’t have nice things.

    • @Smapiecus
      @Smapiecus Před 4 lety +8

      @@jnnx What's up with the random resentment towards this guy for enjoying a video essay because it includes works that he has recently read? You don't have to be angry/annoyed because people have opinions that you see as inferior or mainstream. Just let him compliment the creator of the video in peace without spreading unwarranted indignation.

    • @Yatsura2
      @Yatsura2 Před 4 lety +4

      @@jnnx I dont know anyone who is into Slaughterhouse-Five, Watchmen and GitS SOC. You are just an arrogant, elitist brick who thinks he is so much higher above everyone else. If anything killed any form of criticism, its people like you.

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 Před 3 lety

      @@jnnx this was sad

  • @samcalven12
    @samcalven12 Před 5 lety +374

    I still really love the Watchmen movie

    • @Steef_Lee
      @Steef_Lee Před 5 lety +40

      Me too. Not a huge fan of Zak after the whole Justice League thing, but I love Watchmen and think it’s highly underrated.

    • @samcalven12
      @samcalven12 Před 5 lety +44

      @@Steef_Lee how he didn't even get to finish it and they also cut out most of the scenes he put in and they reshot many scenes

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 Před 4 lety

      Lucky you

    • @gracefool
      @gracefool Před 4 lety +10

      I think the movie only really works if you've read the comic... But then the inadequacy is clear.

    • @leejunki1997
      @leejunki1997 Před 4 lety +14

      The movie definitely requires multiple viewing

  • @godspeed2272
    @godspeed2272 Před 4 lety +6

    I think the opening montage is probably one of my favorite scenes in any movie

  • @coolieo2222
    @coolieo2222 Před 4 lety +10

    all of your points are well made, including the point were i still love it

  • @ia2625
    @ia2625 Před 4 lety +8

    the best chill-hop video essay channel.

  • @freewilliam93
    @freewilliam93 Před 4 lety +127

    The movie was as good as a hollywood film version of it could be. Its Snyders best film.

    • @infantjones
      @infantjones Před 4 lety +27

      "Snyders best film" isn't saying much

    • @XenosSavior
      @XenosSavior Před 4 lety +38

      I'd have to agree. A lot of the die hard fans forget that in order to make the film they had to still make it marketable. A direct clone adaptation would have been lost on the overwhelming majority of the movie-going audience. Certainly the film isn't perfect, but it's a much better adaptation than many comics/books have received.

    • @freewilliam93
      @freewilliam93 Před 4 lety

      @@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan ive been meaning to see that one too, but i liked 300.

    • @captainjakemerica4579
      @captainjakemerica4579 Před 4 lety +1

      Nah 300 is his best film

    • @quickdrawmcgraw3567
      @quickdrawmcgraw3567 Před 4 lety +9

      @@XenosSavior A lot of people seem to forget how many studios dumped the screenplay and refused to make the movie calling the novel "unadaptable". Of course Snyder had to "action-movie" it up, or else the graphic novel wouldnt have even a shred of the popularity it does now. The movie is just as good as it needs to be to appeal to comic movie fans while adding just enough from the novel to interest hardcore Watchmen fans.

  • @RN502
    @RN502 Před 4 lety +5

    This is an amazingly detailed and considered video essay. Really enjoyed your points of view!

  • @pugglesthepug3248
    @pugglesthepug3248 Před 4 lety +1

    You make incredibly captivating videos, thank you.

  • @mr.phillips
    @mr.phillips Před 4 lety

    I LOVE your alternate edits!

  • @DreamGamerZii
    @DreamGamerZii Před 4 lety +15

    After finishing this video, I scrolled to see how many views it had.. This piece of work is extremely underrated, you've earned a new sub sir!
    Amazing film but clearly has it's flaws, of which you pointed out unbiasedly which a lot of people cannot do nowadays with films.

  • @tommygeno92
    @tommygeno92 Před 4 lety +5

    The ending bit made me laugh out loud. Brilliant video man!

  • @spicydaddy2526
    @spicydaddy2526 Před 11 měsíci +1

    i didnt expect to be watching a dozen Jesse Tribble videos this week, but here I am. After the absolutely spot-on House analysis I am hooked.

  • @mrkatzewerfer
    @mrkatzewerfer Před 5 lety +2

    Great video! Loved the re-edits.

  • @userasdf
    @userasdf Před 5 lety +51

    A pale imitation of a great comic is still good. I can still enjoy the movie yet understand its many shortcomings which you described quite well.

  • @kevinpascual
    @kevinpascual Před 4 lety +12

    I actually like the film for trying to do something different, Snyder's problem though is that he is obsessed with a certain style (slow motion and unnecessary combat). What if Sam Mendes did this film, would it be better? I don't think a faithful adaptation is possible.

  • @quickdrawmcgraw3567
    @quickdrawmcgraw3567 Před 4 lety +2

    A lot of people seem to forget how many studios dumped the screenplay and refused to make the movie calling the novel "unadaptable". Of course Snyder had to "action-movie" it up, or else the graphic novel wouldnt have even a shred of the popularity it does now. The movie is just as good as it needs to be to appeal to comic movie fans while adding just enough from the novel to interest hardcore Watchmen fans

  • @violetslit
    @violetslit Před 2 měsíci

    your re-edits are FANTASTIC holy cow

  • @lilgrl213
    @lilgrl213 Před 5 lety +17

    Woo I just subscribed and notice you had made a video 5 hours after I did!
    Your stuff is so great can't wait for more!!!
    Okay so I wanted to add to your video.
    I saw the movie before I read the comic and I loved it. It looked cool, aesthetically amazing, it respectfully /tries/ to take its time with scenes/moments, and it made you really care about its characters despite them not being completely likable.
    However, after I read the graphic novel I was like ".... oh so this is why Alan Moore didn't want his name in the movie."
    As a stand alone, like you said its done pretty well. But I agree a big flaw was the movie strangely chooses and disregards parts it wants to from the comic. The references fly over audience's head who are not familiar with the comic. It can actually make it distracting not understanding why that happened or this showed up.
    I think the movie was made just a bit early. Watchmen was made just before the intense wave of mainstream comic influenced movies. Disney is pumping out so many Marvel movies and has turned into a crazy corporate machine (I guess some can argue its always been that way). If Watchmen was made 5 or 10 years after it was originally made, I'm sure it would've been able to use its medium better. Because Watchmen didn't have the wave of Marvel movies, it was a movie adaptation of a comic that was parodying comics. But it was made later, I think it could've done a better job of parodying recent comic movies the way the comic did it to comics.

  • @CybermanKing
    @CybermanKing Před 4 lety +59

    Shame it took almost a year for this to come up in my recommendations.

  • @AngelEMtz
    @AngelEMtz Před 4 lety +2

    Dude, you are a genius!
    Its beautiful to see you do your thing. Thanks.

  • @a.l.9504
    @a.l.9504 Před 4 lety +1

    Oh man, props for you
    Such a great video
    Don't know much about Watchmen, but it kept me interested all the way through

  • @cflynn2769
    @cflynn2769 Před 4 lety +3

    Well, I’m impressed. Great review sir!

  • @StewedBeef
    @StewedBeef Před 4 lety +3

    Alright, it’s time to tackle the show and by tackle I mean a video essay about its brilliance

  • @macmckitrick4101
    @macmckitrick4101 Před 4 lety +2

    Binging your channel and I gotta say these videos are A+

  • @lycan10101
    @lycan10101 Před 4 lety +2

    I'm writing an essay on film adaptation of other media for school and I'm 200% gonna reference your analysis in this video bro, this is dope, thank you.

  • @jordanrodrigues8435
    @jordanrodrigues8435 Před 4 lety +90

    I never thought I would say this but your essay made me think "Snyder was right". I think the comparisons between the movie and comic are perfectly right but I love that the movie works so well as a movie and leaves the parts of the comic commenting on exactly that. Like Alan moore's nightmares of what "regular" people leave his work with ideas of. Art belongs to and individual but every time it is used becomes more homogeneous. Slick but more of a neutral taste. I think whether Snyder was trying to prove this point (which lets be honest isnt)the way the film was made only reinforces the ideas in the novels. What more can I ask for?

  • @greatconfabulator
    @greatconfabulator Před 4 lety +5

    Shout out for playing one of my favorite NIИ songs.

  • @jayhlovelady
    @jayhlovelady Před 4 lety +1

    Dude. I've been sampling your videos and that last bit sealed the deal on the subscribe. Great work!

  • @JamesMathurin
    @JamesMathurin Před 4 lety +1

    Love the edits.

  • @undercomposition
    @undercomposition Před 4 lety +7

    Watchmen was and still is my favorite "Super Hero Movie"

  • @DolanDamnWargin
    @DolanDamnWargin Před 5 lety +3

    This was one of the best video essays ive ever seen, keep them coming man!

  • @cotto1hunded
    @cotto1hunded Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for making this video.

  • @Steef_Lee
    @Steef_Lee Před 5 lety +1

    Just started watching your videos. I may have ran across them in the past, but I just took notice. I love you. Subscribed.

  • @Jacob-yg7lz
    @Jacob-yg7lz Před 4 lety +5

    So essentially, the Watchmen movie is a Cargo Cult watchmen. It replicates the superficial look in an attempt to replicate the deeper meaning.

  • @fictionmyth
    @fictionmyth Před 4 lety +4

    Jesus, this channel is criminally under subscribed to. That was one of the best video essays I've ever watched. Seriously, and I have watched a ton Just Write, Lessons from the Screenplay, Nerdwriter, Lindsay Ellis, Every Frame a Painting... on and on. Typing that out I realize I might have a problem...
    Anyways, that was a wonderful watch and interesting insights into both the book and adaptation. Also, like you, I read the comic and watched the film. I should, and in some ways do, dislike the film. Yet, for whatever reason, I do enjoy it and have watched it multiple times and felt entertained. I think that might be the problem. It succeeds at being an entertaining film but fails at being a deep philosophical masterpiece like the material it's adapting. Which, in all fairness, might be too high and expectation to place on anything but that begs the question, "Why would you adapt it at all if there's no way to maintain or improve the quality?" The answer, obviously, is money. It's always money.
    The fans of the book are a in built audience that will do the leg work of getting word out about a film being made if it's a property that they love. That's always a good place to start for any project. That's one of the reason superheroes are so popular at all. (Hot take, I know, right?) Though I completely fall for it every time. Right now it's "His Dark Materials" for HBO. If you've read the books you know how good the story is and if you haven't then I'm telling you, right now, that you should. (I'm proselytizing a story that's anti-proselytizing.)
    So, TLDR, I love your channel, your analysis, and the media you choose to discuss. I don't like your sub count. It needs to be way, way, way higher and now I'll not rest until I do some legwork to make you more popular!

  • @sucubus4life
    @sucubus4life Před 3 lety

    I love your edit. It was amazing

  • @snakemont
    @snakemont Před 3 lety

    Thanks Jesse, Great Work! Great 20 mins of my life!

  • @solomonrivers9118
    @solomonrivers9118 Před 4 lety +5

    First off, I just stumbled into your channel and have so far been absolutely delighted with your content. I love finding a creator before they get popular. Nothing is more tragically pretentious than being a CZcams Hipster like myself. Anywho keep up the good work.
    Second, I never read the comic. Caught the movie while it was steaming on HBOgo a while back and enjoyed it. Proceeded to download the Directors Cut because more is always better I thought. I couldn’t make it through. If I knew the source material I might could have at least appreciated it, but the pirate cartoon absolutely killed the pacing. I never finished it.

  • @ZaLewdWarudo
    @ZaLewdWarudo Před 4 lety +4

    I almost wish you had your own edition of the film with how well those edits work.

  • @outlaw-_-9815
    @outlaw-_-9815 Před 4 lety +1

    Your analysis and scene edits were legit

  • @peepspers
    @peepspers Před 4 lety +1

    Dude that edit is so good

  • @Aurich88
    @Aurich88 Před 4 lety +38

    The Comedian's fight scene/death serves a second purpose, though: Part of his character is that his savagery made him the most effective of the Minutemen. In their youth, he's said to have beaten Ozymandias (who thinks of himself as the perfect man) in a fight. Ozy could have poisoned the Comedian or something, but he showed up to kill him personally as a private rematch. The fight shows that (1) the Comedian is a very dangerous man, (2) Ozymandias' methodical violence trounces C's savagery, and (3) Ozy is still petty enough to want to settle the score.

    • @UltimateKyuubiFox
      @UltimateKyuubiFox Před 4 lety +8

      The whole point of the original scene is that Edward Blake became a pathetic old man who got beaten to death. You’re supposed to feel sick to your stomach watching that scene, slightly guilty and uncomfortable, not bummed that this powerful guy is still losing despite his efforts. This wasn’t meant to be a fight, it was meant to be equivalent to what happened to Nite Owl I. You learn the Comedian was a dangerous man in flashbacks, and his savagery is laid out in contrast to his later senility. That’s the whole point. The whole point is that it’s sad and pathetic. It’s non-aggrandizing. It’s deflating.

    • @Aurich88
      @Aurich88 Před 4 lety +2

      @@UltimateKyuubiFox He needs to look dangerous for the scene to work. Regular old people don't do combat rolls in their bath robes or knock holes in their walls. You're not supposed to root for him, but it's not impressive that he got taken apart if he doesn't seem dangerous himself.

    • @LazyMaybe
      @LazyMaybe Před 4 lety +2

      @@Aurich88 It's not supposed to be impressive that he got taken apart.

    • @Aurich88
      @Aurich88 Před 4 lety +2

      @@LazyMaybe "RORSCHACH: An ordinary burglar?
      Kill the Comedian? Ridiculous."

    • @gracefool
      @gracefool Před 4 lety +1

      @@Aurich88 is that line from the comic?

  • @seanlemaster4985
    @seanlemaster4985 Před 4 lety +6

    Really fantastic video, man. Felt like you really understood the topic and criticized the movie without bashing it needlessly. Great edits btw

  • @gabriyelmastrianna8864

    You earned a subscribe. Love the channel so far

  • @croisaor2308
    @croisaor2308 Před 4 lety +1

    13:43 That transition was one of the best I've ever seen. It's actually perfect.

  • @bolik15
    @bolik15 Před 4 lety +7

    Excellent video essay, the best one on the movie I've seen.

  • @cb9811
    @cb9811 Před 4 lety +13

    I'd love to hear your thoughts on the new watchmen series

  • @gracefool
    @gracefool Před rokem

    I just watched this for the second time after 3 years. It's brilliant, my favourite video essay film review.

  • @evtikarina
    @evtikarina Před 4 lety +1

    brilliant work, keep it up!

  • @HerrFenrisWolf
    @HerrFenrisWolf Před 4 lety +4

    Still love the movie, brought me to the comic and I very like the stylish slow scenes to a fine tune of music.

  • @food6832
    @food6832 Před 5 lety +6

    This channel is criminally underrated. Amazing video, helped me understand more about what was missing from the adaptation aside from simple cuts for time. Subscribed my dude keep it up

  • @billydablob
    @billydablob Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this video! Amazing

  • @ryanpatlover4241
    @ryanpatlover4241 Před 3 lety +2

    Great review! I’m also a huge fan of the graphic novel, but I gotta say, I still love this movie

  • @theechothief5594
    @theechothief5594 Před 4 lety +4

    Love the use of Pilgrimage from NIN.

  • @chonchjohnch
    @chonchjohnch Před 4 lety +5

    I enjoy the Manhattan segments of watchmen

  • @DARILARYON
    @DARILARYON Před rokem

    THIS IS SUCH A GOOD VIDEO MAN ILY

  • @buteverybodycallsmegiorgio

    Your edit was impeccable! Why am I only getting this recommended to me now? Subbed and dinged

  • @digi1071
    @digi1071 Před 4 lety +8

    I was recommended this exactly 1 year too late.

  • @ImTweeZy
    @ImTweeZy Před 4 lety +7

    the ending was the cherry on the cake ! beautiful video and you were right on pretty much everything.
    I think the movie is still great especially in comparaison to other superhero movies, but if you were to look for perfection this video right here would help for sure !

    • @SuperGamerxl
      @SuperGamerxl Před 4 lety +1

      But it can't stand on its own Because its adaptating something.

  • @drawingsnwordz
    @drawingsnwordz Před 4 lety +1

    Phenomenal Video.

  • @stephenohimor1784
    @stephenohimor1784 Před 4 měsíci

    This is a great analysis. Well done.

  • @farmandoart5850
    @farmandoart5850 Před 4 lety +6

    The movie is good, the comic is a masterpiece

  • @joesiemoneit4145
    @joesiemoneit4145 Před 4 lety +4

    nice use of the nin sample!

  • @AbsentMindSal
    @AbsentMindSal Před 4 lety +2

    That fucking last clip was poetic and fucking hilarious.
    Thank you for pointing out the things about this movie that bothered me but I couldn’t quantify

  • @jread5400
    @jread5400 Před 4 lety +2

    Damn those edits are so good

  • @gocsa
    @gocsa Před 5 lety +42

    Goddamn how is this video still sitting at such a low view count, this needs to get some promotion or something :)

    • @Enzaio
      @Enzaio Před 4 lety +1

      Seems like it got just that.

  • @wrigh2uk
    @wrigh2uk Před 4 lety +11

    I'd consider myself the general audience, and this film absolutely worked for me. It's my favourite comic book film bar none.

  • @dogmiagy
    @dogmiagy Před 5 lety +2

    Great job m8! 🇵🇹👌

  • @cernunnos_lives
    @cernunnos_lives Před 4 lety +2

    Ahh good journalism is another art always in places where you don't expect it. Just like Alan Moore putting his talent in comic book form.