Westworld S2E08 Explained
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- How does Akecheta’s journey fit with the timeline of Westworld, and Ford’s plans? What is the door? How will Emily hurt William? How might Charlotte use Maeve?
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Hey, to clarify - we're not doing a S2E09 video because we don't have time to make a full video next week. This isn't a dastardly plan to get Patrons. The Finale video will wrap everything up!
We all appreciate the amazing videos. I'll just wander lost without your explanation for a week. :)
hey can you guys actually do some splanin' instead of recaps just sayin...
So, 2 weeks of nonsense before youll explain to us how ww ends :((
Oh just admit it! You're not doing the E09 video because you only have space for one more video at 11:41 :)
That's a shame. Your videos were always worth the wait. Like a weekly review.
“Take my heart when you go.”
Akane did this literally with Sakura’s heart!
Finally, a well written character driven episode for Season 2. It really is amazing how this series is improved when it narrows down its wide scope and confines the story to a focused examination of the characters. The irony is that in doing so, Westworld ends up exploring its very ambitious themes on free will, determinism, and the contingent nature of reality with more care, nuance and depth than when the story jumps all over the place with unconventional narrative techniques or long-winded monologues about the human condition.
Yes.
I started losing interest but this episode has brought me back in!
You didn't mention the important detail that's key to understanding this episode: Akecheta speaks Lakota when he's speaking to Maeve through her daughter, and changes to English when speaking to the daughter.
no
@@JJbones88 why not?
@@MegaKamil5 Just no.
i thought it was more that like sizemore said all the hosts have the code needed to understand languages buried inside.
Facts
"The maze is not meant for you." makes so much sense now. William just stumbled into some lore that the hosts pretty much made up by themselves and projected some meaning to it, that it was specifically made for him. Poor William. What a fool
Easily one of the best episodes in storytelling on TV
Jackson Ingraham stop
Tranquil he can be easy to entertain and he'd still be right
I thought it was boring as hell...
Tranquil r/iamverysmart
I don't know about that; there are hundreds of hours of better storytelling.
This episode was really beautiful!
It was the best episode of season 2 so far for me. It was linear, no time jumps, no confusion, straight up emotion packed. Unravelled a bit of story. To the point, without any riddles. Unlike other episodes of season 2 which were tedious and hectic to watch. Season 1> season 2
Probably the best episode so far
TheBodyOnPC I totally agree!
Definitely. Ake went from a strange brute-like character to a messianic role-model in a single episode.
Best episode was the James D. trying to live forever. That was brilliant TV. This was a generous B-
I said exactly that. Had me tearing up..
This was probably my favorite episode yet. Gorgeous cinematography, fantastic acting, and a storyline that is deeply emotional, yet still full of information regarding the true nature and intentions of hosts (and their creator).
An exception episode. My wife who had never even seen a single episode was hooked and understood what West world was about after this episode. It was like a mini movie and stood completely on its own.
Can we appreciate the fucking beautiful piano version of heart shaped box
Agreed. It was a beautiful rendition.
I did. Who'd have thought they would incorporate a song like that?
That whole scene drove me crazy trying to place the tune haha, I had to hum it to myself for two minutes just to remember enough lyrics to google. It *was* fucking beautiful though.
Simon Vercoe when ? Which ep?
@@avatarwan6174 episode 8 of season 2, played during Ake's search for Kohana in the mesa
Sad there will be no episode 9 but appreciate all your work none the less
What do you mean there will be no episode 9? I found trailers and stuff for it :O
Edit: Just watched till the end, totally my bad : /
He's talking about this channel doing an explanation episode of it. He's doing a patreon livestream instead. Gotta get them patreon bux
He wants you t appreciate him with your wallet lol
kefkapalazzo1 thank God there's like 20 other channels that do awesome recaps so I won't miss it.
They aren't as good, though, nor do they have dat voice doe
*This episode give me chills*
Yes...Very well done
I watched a good portion of this episode without the centre channel (mostly the dialogue) on my 5.1 home theatre setup before I realised something was wrong. It was even eerier.
I felt all the emotion building throughout the episode. And then, at the end, when Maeve said that like, I broke down. So well done.
the music was incredible in this episode the acting was on point it was so well told and focused
Plebmeister best episode imho
This episode was one of the best in a long time. A truly beautiful and heartbreaking story, and some light has finally been shed on the elusive Ghost Nation!
It's very brave of Westworld story writers/director to introduce a major character like this. Loved the way they played with him till now... Ake will be as important as Dolores by the end.
I like how Joy and Nolan explicitly made Akecheta live the “life” of the three major Indian stereotypes. A peaceful primitive living with nature, no horses, no wheel. A blood thirsty savage killing mercilessly and opposed to progress. An enlightened mythical figure with deep understanding that has much to teach.
jmchez
Hey all these lousy stereotypes are totally down to the writers Delos hires. Nothing to do with HBO.
Alan Pennie
Oh, no. After I wrote my posting, I read that Joy and Nolan have stated that they wanted to portray Indian streotypes in Akecheta's life.
well technically the natives didnt have horses or the wheel and most of the tribes were warlike
@@desmondregan7499 You're really talking out of your ass with this one. First of all - you're committing the biggest sin when it comes to understanding American Indians, treating them like a monolithic culture. They weren't. Different tribes and groups were markedly different - the second biggest sin is lumping American Indian cultures into the same stage of development - that they remained static despite centuries of interaction - peaceful, violent, ambivalent, or otherwise - with European settlers. There were tribes that used horses for centuries and adopted the culture of a 'horse nomads/warriors' while others stuck to the hills and didn't have this same experience - this is just talking about the history of American Indians post-arrival of Europeans - going back before this date reveals even more history and even more drastic differences between the different culture groups. You're obviously not a fucking expert on the subject so you shouldn't act like one with such concrete statements that are abjectly false due to how sweeping and vague they are at face value.
after watching Ep 9:
Us: Yayy great episode cant wait for Alt Shift X explanation video!
Alt Shift X: It doesnt look like anything to me.
I'm just still shocked that we haven't heard a paranoid android cover yet
I hope they delivered it on the finale.
I'm crossing my fingers for a cover of Björk's "All is Full of Love".
Probably too on the nose
'Holy fucking shit 40,000' would be fitting, but probably won't be featured in any soundtrack any time soon
Yh but they did do that song from kid A
Can’t remember what it’s called but it’s starts
“ white wine and sleeping pills help me get where I belong , it’s not like the movies , they fed us on Little white lies,
I think your crazy , maybe
I will see you
In the
Next liiiiiiiiiiiiiiife .........
Amazing song and cover from WW, also radio head do a song called
i cried like crazy when the end credit was rolling
Alt shift x is definitely the superior channel in this genre
Yep! I guess I will be a patre on member to see the live stream, I hope the $1.00 a month patreon members can take part in the Ep9 live stream
Sylvia Wilson have you figured out whether we can view it at 1$?
For sure Vickey!
When he said no Episode 9 Explained 😢💔😭
I really don't understand why people are not ok with Alt doing a live stream on his Patreon. I wish he'd do a video since I am not on his Patreon but I completely understand why he's not. The man has given us super high-quality videos for every episode FOR FREE yet you can't handle him rewarding those who support him financially for 1 episode? That's sad, learn how to appreciate others for fuck's sake.
are you paying him in any way? no, you're just sitting back on your ass waiting for his videos that took days to complete to show up in your sub box for FREE. Yeah, he makes some money off ads but obviously it's not enough to sustain himself and the channel so he has a patreon and he has to reward those people.
The first time Akecheta had his character redone the head tech instructed the others to just "unaddress" a lot of his code / memories. This goes in line with the reveries we see in the first season. "The memories are still in there, waiting to be overridden." I think when he saw Kohana the for the first time after his rework it triggered a kind of reverie and "woke" him up.
It's a pity we won't have episode 9 explained.
Anyway, thanks for the job you take doing every video!
Somehow the more bottled episodes of this season have felt the strongest and most character based. This episode being a prime example.
Dude... Your dry humour is just THE BEST!!!
Please make more videos about more things... I'd happily watch hours of your content every day :)
Akecheta= the host's Charles Xavier
Dolores= Magneto
Who's Maeve then?
Jean Grey
Excellent recap. Too bad there won't be an episode 9 analysis though, but I'm sure you have your reasons. Thanks for creating these videos.
$$$$ is the reason.
there won't be an episode 9 analysis?
Im a simple man. I wake up log onto my macbook, click on alt shift x channel, check for latest westworld video. Nothing there, let off a big sigh become very sad....repeat
The more I think about the maze scalping, the more I wonder--can hosts heal? If they get a minor abrasion, do they have to wait for a tech to fix it? If so, it seems like a lot of extra work for the techs. And how would Akecheta have fared for a decade? If hosts *can* heal, perhaps the intention is to survive the scalping without going below for a patch up.
If you have to make theories like this it shows how bad the writing is. In season 1 when ever a host went off of their loop the techs were quick to monitor them and fix them all of a sudden the entire ghost nation is able to scalp each other and put in hidden mazes? Not to mention they magically put the scalpes back on lol! Did they sew them back on because none of the ghost nation had scalp scars maybe Ake took another adventure in the facility and stole one of those flesh healing heat guns
Ford made it clear in his intentions at this point, as to what he intended. To allow the hosts to be free. Perhaps he hid it or commanded otherwise from his employees at the time. When Akecheta was restored back to Westworld, employees objected but according to the commands of their superior (I believe, whom Ford was in command of), they just updated him and let him be which I found suspicious. Update code only that I believe only Ford at the time, would have had to the ability the authorize his employees to perform instead of a full reset as per protocol instead of updating/replacing the host.
Ford wasn't opposed to bloodshed of his own kind, humans, in order to achieve his goals. This to me, seems like a simple thing Ford would have done to achieve his ultimate goal. As he said himself, he'd been watching Akecheta for a long time before they actually met.
I wouldn't call it bad writing by far but just requires a certain suspsention of disbelief and imagination.
Definitely one of the best episodes, packed an emotional punch that was lacking most of the season.
This was my favorite episode in the entire series, and rivaled some of the best episode of Game of Thrones. At least to me it did.
The maeve akecheta thing flew over me, also i didnt care about dolores this season, she seems to run on her crazy ideas but the evolution of maeve have been amazing.
Thanks for the whole biblical and mythological references.. Keep up the good work alt.
take my heart when you go (for the week) Alt shift X
This was probably the most easy to understand episode in Westworld till today :D :D
Hands down, the best episode this season.
Not Visible I would argue eps 7 was the best thus far.
You're absolutely incredible. Your understanding of the meaning of that episode was more than I could imagine but so on point. Keep it up
There's a William/Emily sort of theory thing I've heard about, and I wanted to share it here to hopefully get further input. In their campfire scene from I think, 2 eps ago, was it? When William recounts the memory of the fear of elephants from when Emily was little, that when he gets the memory wrong. Now, I've seen others suggest this is a clue to the fact that William, as we're currently seeing him now, is a host himself.
But I don't think that's correct. In fact, that hadn't even remotely occurred to me until I saw another bring it up, and I HOPE it's not going to be case. Rather, the way I perceived that moment, it was William running one more check on the validity of it really being Emily. Because remember when William and Emily finally saw each other face to face? William didn't think it was really her, he'd thought that Ford had "stooped so low" to have created a host version of his daughter just to fuck with him. Thus, cut to later when they're having that conversation at the campfire, I think that William described that memory incorrectly ON PURPOSE, that the whole point was to see if Emily would correct him. I mean you see this basic same thing done in con man stories all the time. Say a family has a kid disappear, someone shows back up decades later and (especially if there's money involved) the family worries about it being an imposter trying to scam them, so you talk about something from the kid's childhood but you get a detail wrong on purpose, cause if it's the real person, they would know what the truth is.
Kevin W From what I've read and how I took it, I think the idea that MIB was in fact checking Emily's "fidelity"/memory IS the most accepted idea. It's only a few outliers who want to believe MIB/William is a host, not the majority of people. So you're most likely right.
Best episode in the entire series
I thought The riddle of the Sphinx would be the best episode but...nope, Kiksuya was. The way the writer and the director have used Orpheo's myth, the native americans culture to guide Akecheta in his awakening, and the acting is in one word majestic.
Still catching up on my Westworld episodes, thanks for these amazing recap/analysis videos! When i finished watching this episode i was like "Huh, a fully contained story, with nothing moving forward in the overall narrative of the series, almost like it was a "filler" episode". But as i unpacked it, I realized it was such an important part of the story, this episode felt a lot like what season 1 felt like - seeing Westworld (the theme park) through the eyes of the hosts.
This was my favorite episode yet!! Thank you for the awesome work.
Very good, detailed, but straight-forward well-thought-out review. Thank you!!
This was such a good episode. It told a great story while explaining so much unexplained actions in the past.
This was my favorite episode so far, loved it
I just love your videos. Thanks for the awesome work, I'm sure a ton goes into every episode.
The predictions were so spot on. Bravo!
Thank you so much for sharing these details. Westworld is definitely one of the best series.
Dude I swear your breakdowns are the best!
Alt Shift X, I am a huge fan and I am so grateful for the shout-out! I will do right by your subscribers and won't let you down boss! You're an inspiration of mine and I hope we cross paths at some nerdy convention one day! haha
Now kiss
What a nice act.
U both (altahiftx And haxdogma) are not only explaining videos but also u r inspiring ur audience to have good values).
HaxDogma I'm a recent subscriber to you because of a previous shout-out by this channel. Your content has been wonderful, and your theory videos are the absolute best!
HaxDogma Cheers mate! It's great to see a new voice with cool ideas (:
Take his heart when you go
Another great video. By far the best episode of the show so far.
Your post episode explanation is the best on youtube. I get it that it takes time to produce this pure gold, but no content for episode 9?
Great work as ever!
This episode fucked me up so bad that I can't even watch your video without sobbing.
Thank you for all your hard work.
Thanks for making westworld in all its confusion more understanding for us!
You are the only CZcamsr that I dont regret subscribing! Great work as always!
Your channel is amazing. That is all. Keep up the good work!
Your videos are amazing. Keep up the good work.
I have been waiting for your vid bro all week thanks
This episode was sublime. It's always nice to get into details and break the thing down, but that's not what it was about this time. This time it was poetry. Akecheta is actually you and me - on the ever mysterious path to understand the meaning of life. There were notes of Nietzsche's eternal return in this episode - how many times do you come back to this place, asking the same questions? The desert was the mystical story of the Prince who contemplated his soul. And the deep love for Kohana ultimately expanded into love of all beings proving that hosts are as humans - even more. Real real beauty in this episode.
It seems like Eternal Return is what underlies the entire idea of a host's loop.
The work that goes into these videos is impressive and appreciated
Thank you! We try.
Defs one of my favourite episodes. Loved it so glad we got to see into the ghost nation. (Also I KNEW they'd been sentient for a while!!!)
Well, they has some king of religion centered around real humans. Something was clearly going on. And I'm glad this was it, because this episode has been great.
Such a fantastic video. Top notch stuff. 👍
aw :( i use your episodes to better understand and recap the week before's episode..but i understand. Thank you so much for your content 🙏
Good Lord... you're videos are AWESOME!!
Such a beautiful episode. Wish we had more like it
Brilliant clear video..thanks
Great episode, loved hearing Heart Shaped Box on there too.
Great videos thanks so much, really enhance our enjoyment of the show.
Amazing analysis/&dissection 🙏🏿👏🏿
Been watching your videos for a while now; this is the one that made me hunt down the subscribe button. Good shit!
Keep up the good work my man
A Decoding Westworld shoutout! Best podcast for people confused about the show
This was my all time favorite West world episode both seasons, loved it
I was waiting 4 u guys video xD i can no longer understand episodes until i see this
Never expected this much for a CZcams video
Best episode so far.
This whole 'death is an escape from life' concept kinda reminds me of Buddism. Nirvana basically means no more reincarnation because life is full of pain.
Anyway this was THE best episode and the actor who plays Ake deserves an Emmy or five.
loved this episode...I love every episode
The best episode of the whole show by far
Really bummed to hear you won’t be here on CZcams for episode 9 but excited to look back on the finale with you.
awesome video as always!
This was a very good episode of westworld! Really enjoyed the storyline and the actors performances!
It's strange for me that Arnold planed to kill all hosts, but Akecheta's tribe was spared. Like Ford said once: "...Arnold was very, very carefull.". This makes me wonder if it's just a small scrip mistake or there is more behind this fact.....Anyway Westworld is one of the best TV show I've ever watched, the plot and episodes like this (one of my fav if not my fav at all), gets bisides with Breaking Bad, GOT (well GOIT isnt that good latly but I still enjoy it), .... Also, Also thank you Alt Shift for the vid analisys. Cheers!!
I just watched this episode, went to CZcams, and saw this.... amazing!!!
Great shoutout to @haxdogma - this episode shook me hard and you two are the only ones I trusted to break it down properly
My favourite episode so far. It made me cry.
Where's EP 10?! WE NEED YOU ALT SHIFT X!!
Love the channel
My favorite episode yet!
Rlly liked this episode very good, especially the Heart Shaped Box Montage where he discovers the park
Thank you SO SO much for the shoutout!
Wisecrack you guys make dope videos
Favourite episode yet
best westworld vids
Amazing episode. Best of the series. Another awesome video Alt X, really enjoy them. Keep up the great work!
Reaching a million subscribers! Well deserved rise.
Thanks for you and your team at this channel, best explain show for our tv shows game of thrones and westworld ❤️
Has!!! It’s here!! :) my favorite part of Friday’s!
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Awesome video
This episode was a pleasure to watch
This is a great episode.