Anytime a fight is close do that and watch how you judge each round completely different with the sound off vs with the sound on and commentators in your year telling whats going on. Glad you tried it!!
At 50 secs u can hear floyd sayin ""that mofocker can punch man" just shows how little credit he got for this fight. He beat the number 1 big punching lightweight at that time. Respect.
Very well said Roy Jones over Mayweather any day, at least Jones fought a lot while both was in his prime. Jones was one of the most feared boxers and when giving a chance he fought. There was no question Jones fought the top in his division, but there are fighters out there May still has not fought that are holding belts and at the top of the division. To many fighters he did not face that is why May is not the best of all times, never will be.
This was a great fight! I give Castillo tremendous amount of credit. Castillo is the ONLY boxer to come close, or even beating, Mayweather. Some argue Castillo won, and I can see why.
@Elmatador525 I did not know that but pacman did agree to the testing for the second fight and mayweather was given a deadline to sign the contract and he said he was in no hurry to fight, that he had just fought 60 days ago, then his camp denied even being close to an agreement.
@kedricsample Its just odd how so very few ppl are aware that may called out sugar twice yet may duckd him. he called out cotto at 140 when cotto was 1 of the best at that weight. cotto chooses to reamin inactive in 06 rather than take the challenge yet may ducked him. pwill calls out shane clottey berto and pac. but may is the only ducker floyd didnt fight berto whos biggest win at the time was luis freaking collazo yet may ducked him???? im not disagreeing with you, but you dont find that odd?
@oomzie500 It is a matter of perspective, then: some will consider effectiveness as punches that land clean; some others, like myself, will define effectiveness as the ability to make the opponent fight at your pace, in your style. Both things happened in different moments during this fight, and Castillo landed more punches, and Floyd was forced to fight, something that you don't see often. Thanx for answering, have a good day.
I had him losing the 1st 6 rds, the 9th, 11th & a tie in the point deducted rds(8 &10) & Castillo got away with alot of dirty punches too! & he got outboxed again in the 2nd fight!
@TGUNZ562 Cloyd had no other choice but to accept Shane's challenge... Why would he demand a rematch clause? Or why did it take him to sign the contract TWO DAYS AFTER the deadline? It goes to show he needed a lot of convincing from Sr and Uncle Jeff to get him sign the dotted line....
the difference between all the other fighters that floyd beat and pacman is that pacman always comes at you with combinations all the time........if any of the flurry of punches can land effectively is another question.. as we know floyd is very evasive. and he can also box!!
Yea you pretty much named all of Floyd's fights that some people consider close. I only consider the first Castillo fight close. I scored the second Castillo fight 9-3 or 8-4. I had the Hoya fight 9-3. I had the Judah fight 9-3. I also had the Cotto fight 9-3.
Yea right. Post your scorecards to these fights. It is easy for someone to talk when they can't back up anything. Just continue to talk unless you start posting scorecards.
Well said..Floyd scored a knock down in Rd 2 but it was ruled a "Slip" How?.Mayweather landed a punch just before his foot stepped on Castillo,s foot.Ref made a mistake cos Castillo would have gone anyway with or without the foot stamp.Castillo should have been deducted more than one point cos he kept punching several times after the break..Good Fight over all..
Nobody talks about this but that Castillo did trip over his own legs after getting hit by Floyd, so technically they could have been called a knockdown in round 2.
Castillo was 9 pounds heavier than floyd. That's why he tried to put his body weight on Floyd the whole entire fight. I have round 1, 2, 3, and 4 for Mayweather so far. The crowd is cheering every time castillo throws a combination. Don't let that fool you.
@TheMechanizim yea but a round is scored on EFFECTIVE aggression defense and punching...castillo was aggressive in round 3 but what did he land? floyd was landing the punches...he had good defense so thats 2 out of the 3 castillo was only aggressive so that means they fucked up giving castillo the 3rd rounds it was like floyd vs chavez when in round 1 floyd landed 25/50+ and chavez landed 5/90+ but they gave chavez the round
the number 2 guy was a natural super featherweight who never fought so much as junior welterweight,let alone the welterweight level he did fight at.Rank wise,mosely would be the best choice since he is considered the number 1 welterweight by many people but he's not the big name that mayweather likes to fight.
Yes I notice he runs more now, before he was a lot active, but I feel fighters that really have a chance with him he doubts himself a bit. It shows in his boxing, he is better then Pac but I'm sure he will let Pac bring the fight to him. I feel May can really sting an stun Pac with a few quick jabs.
Yeah a few, including Judah, Corley and Mitchell. Against Judah especially he took a few rounds to figure him out (and then went on to dominate) and Zab was able to land some decent shots. I think Manny has a chance, but the smart money is on Mayweather.
Man Floyd vs pacman will only be debatable until the fight starts, i think there are equal fans on pacmans side as floyd, i personally think pacman would own floyd
Larry Merchant is a sportswriter and a commentator. Most people thought Castillo won. The entire crowd was booing the decision. Jim Lampley said "I dont know what fight the judges were watching"..that says a lot. If a fight is close, and he doesnt agree, he doesnt say that kind of thing. He only says it if its a travesty WHICH IT WAS!
@robinwu87 I would have no problem with what you're saying except when EVERYONE ELSE beats these same guys they get tons of credit. Judah-Cotto andKhan have these as theyre signature wins. Baldomir was a FOY candidate when they fought..- De La Hoya-this was win that REALLY made Manny a household name. Hatton- Pac got a ton of credit for beating this guy. Mosley-Floyd fought him off a big win, and was considered still one of the best in the world, Pac also got a lot credit for that win
Mayweather rarely throws his signature lead right or the pull-counter this fight. You can tell the shoulder was bothering him. He edged out Castillo with one hand this fight and beat him convincingly in the rematch when he had both hands.
@TheDolfan2010 While I wouldn't say I am a true "fan" of Floyd, just not a fan of his pre-fight antics... I am a die-hard boxing fan, and truly appreciate his talent, and execution... I am looking at this objectively, most fans are not die-hards, and want heavy hitting action (look at the decline in boxing since Tyson)... Floyd is drawing interest, because he seems unbeatable (IMO, Castillo won this fight though)... once he is beaten, if he is... alot of his general interest is gone.
Mayweather won rounds 1, 2, and 3. Castillo turned it up in round 3, during the last minute. He tried to steal the round but his total punch output still wasn't enough.
hates them? I doubt that very much and you cant prove it. Larry Merchant lavishes Floyd with praise. He constantly speaks of how skilled he is and how he is winning the fight. Cotto vs Mayweather was close till about round 9 ( I still had Mayweather ahead by a round or two) but then Floyd took over! He clearly won that fight and Lampley had the same score!
I remember this fight, was the first time i saw Mw fight. I thought he lost and thought he was a bum. Things done change thats for damn sure, He's one of the best in the world. I still think he lost this fight though, maybe i have to watch the whole thing again cause i was 16 yrs old when this happen. Im damn near 30 now
Castillo is, and will always be the most offensively skilled fighter Mayweather has ever fought. Marquez may have been the most skilled overall, but not as offensively skilled as Castillo, while Marquez is more of a counter-punching boxer and a thinker, and he was unable to out-think and and out-speed Floyd. Castillo's offense is very similar to Julio Cesar Chavez in terms of mixing his punches up, patiently cutting distance, and using feints, and winning exchanges.
foreman makes me laugh when he says "you have to take the power off and go for accuracy when youve got the opponent on the ropes" i think he learned that one in zaire...
What he does is illegal. That is why he had a point taken off! Castillo landed blows that were illegal and he got a point taken off. Castillo still threw more punches, landed more, and landed at a higher percentage! He also controlled the tempo and the pace of the bout! Also, all the HBO analysts felt Castillo won and the entire crowd was booing at the dubious decision!
@TGUNZ562 You're two months late with your reply,bub....Cloyd didn't want this fight, he was forced to when he danced his way out of Pacquiao's radar....
Im a castillo fan but u cant really complain about his robbery too much after all Floyd Gave him the immediate rematch and won it decisively. This was a good fight tho. ITs fights like these that we need in present day
@tycoon83 funny you mention floyd ducking pacman but dont mention pacman ducking shane mosley (the true welterweight champ) and a recent calling out by paul williams. you can have your opinion but good grief at least be fair
Round 3 to Floyd as well. Castillo is pressing unlike the 1st round but he's not landing. Floyd lands stiff jabs to head and particularly the stomach and the occasional right hand. In any cast not a lot of out put from either fighter and Floyd doesn't stay on the ropes long enough for Castillo to put together any real work.
@oomzie500 does not matter weather punches are hard or soft if they are landing they are scoring.look at the hopkins calzagie fight joes punches were pitty pat to the body but they still are scoring its not like the amatures when body does not really count And yes he hit floyd a lot in the clench but thats what u are supposed to do when the other fighter is clenching u.
@kyledagreat27 effective agessiveness means they are effective when they are agressive. not to be smart ass but thats what it means to me lol. plus it depends on who the judges like more anyway.
@DaGeniusOne now im sure that he did stepped on his foot... when falling back, castillo "let" his right foot in the front... he wouldnt fall like that (with his right foot in the front of him) if his right foot was free
@DaGeniusOne hmmm... i think he did... if no, i think, floyd would be complaining and they touched gloves after that... but i admit, i dont see it that clear to be 100% sure... but you also dont see it clear
@kedricsample shane was p4pder and may was still an up and comer. and your going to have to refresh my memory on how floyd ducked andre berto. I dont remember calls for berto calling out mayweather and mayweather turning down berto. the only legitimate time he ducked a fighter was margarito, because floyd wanted cotto at 140 but if you research that arum pulled the plug on that fight saying that cotto was not ready for that kind of fight
A fight can be close(meaning it was competitive every single round) but still be won clearly(meaning one of the fighters won more rounds), now if you say the fight was VERY close(meaning it could should have been a DRAW), and then say it was a clear win, then you are contradicting yourself. At this stage we can just guess how a Pac-May fight will play, to say one win surely win is just not right, knowing GREAT upsets have happened in Boxing, and this isn't even mismatch, it can go either way.
I think Money fights Manny JUST LIKE THIS! The only difference being, while Castillo at this point was an EXCELLENT fighter, and Floyd WAS still learning; PacMan is EVEN BETTER!!! BraaP!!!
@mexicaliyaotl - it was a close fight and close fights are always controversial because there are reasons of how the guy won on both sides. If castillo got the decision alot of people would say floyd was robbed. fights like sweetpea v JCC and lewis v holyfield 1 are robberies.
@AliRidah619 Yeah.. Even though THAT is NOT the scrap we ALL wanna see, its still a good fight.. At least their is the very real possibility that Pac could get WHOOPED!! Big Up man
@itiller69 I have. That's why I'm open minded. That's why I took the liberty of actually learning boxing instead of just watching it, and that's how I learned that Mayweather is a better fighter then Pacquiao.
there's no way we're talking about the same fight.Oscar De La Hoya wasn't nearly as drained as everyone made him out to be.I think it was his age more so than his weight that contributed to his loss.Plus the fact that he can beat good fighters,not great ones.ODLH with all his money and experience had to have had a nutritionist to make sure he lost the weight properly.He chose to fight manny.That he didn't prepare right isn't an excuse.And Floyd's timing was too good for marquez at any weight.
well thats the thing he will have to go to Junior Middle or Middle for any real challenge honestly nobody in Welterweight can even hold a candle to Mayweather
How did Lederman possibly give that 3rd round to Castillo. Watched that round trying to find a reason to give the 3rd round to Castillo and I couldn't. Castillo practically missed everything he threw.
personally i rate a clean shot higher than a hold and hit shot. I understand your point that castillo won because of his inside work but i didn't rate his inside work because he was going low too often and was holding too much. I have watched this fight a few times and the first few times i had floyd winning by a point or 2 then i rewatched, taking castillo's inside work into account and i had him winning, I've also scored it 114-114. All i'm saying is that it wasn't a clear win for either guy.
The first two rounds could be scored even. Nobody really landed anything significant and Floyd only landed 8 more punches COMBINED in those rounds. Castillo landed the harder shots even in the first two rounds. After that, Castillo took over. This is not even up for debate dude. Castillo clearly won!
I gave Catillo the round too. He was the one forcing the action and those shots he landed with Lil Floyd on the ropes did more damage than anything Floyd did during the round. Plus, Castillo cut the ring off well. Furthermore, floyd is a dirty fighter with that forearm push he uses!
@adxgr0undzer0 I mean it's a dreaded sport called pugilism in it's earliest moniker. Myself being raised in NYC I never lost a fight that I have been in and the after effect of losing a fight as a professional is like losing a piece of yourself. My point is it's about hitting whilst not getting hit and I don't know anyone in the last ten years who has done that better than Floyd Mayweather jr.
Yea I personally don't believe Floyd has lost a fight as a pro. Also Floyd was injured in this fight. He had a torn rotator cuff. Look what happened in the second fight. Floyd out boxed him without question.
@llerret09 Make no mistake about this... Mayweather needs that money more than Pacquiao (not that either is in desperate need)... Pacquiao is a far bigger name worldwide... Mayweather tried to run for political office, he'd get laughed at... Pac-Man is on a road to presidency in the Philippines... plus he is already transitioning into movies... I wouldn't be surprised if he is the 4th athlete to reach the Billion dollar mark (1st - Tiger; 2nd - LeBron; 3rd - De La Hoya).
Anytime a fight is close do that and watch how you judge each round completely different with the sound off vs with the sound on and commentators in your year telling whats going on. Glad you tried it!!
@MrJosemedina1881 what rounds did Castillo win?
@tycoon83 if mosley is over the hill, what do you call de la hoya when pacquiao fought him and was drained from coming down to fight him???
turn off the sound when you watch this fight
The reason why people question this fight so much is because Arum hated Floyd after leaving TopRank and this was his first fight after leaving Arum
@itchygonads Tell me which rounds you think he won. I can't see how anyone makes a case for him winning this fight.
At 50 secs u can hear floyd sayin ""that mofocker can punch man" just shows how little credit he got for this fight. He beat the number 1 big punching lightweight at that time. Respect.
@buonzz2 And those 2 things negate him from being a technical fighter? How does he not get hit and outclass other fighters while not being technical?
I agree. Castillo controlled the tempo and the pace!
hahaha i like how the commentator chuckles in his sentence when castillo got knocked down.
i love the way floyd jabs the belly.....
Dude, I just posted exactly what you posted here. Then deleted it after realizing it. That was really weird. Even the wording was the similar lol.
@mexicaliyaotl yes it was. How was it not a close fight ?
Very well said Roy Jones over Mayweather any day, at least Jones fought a lot while both was in his prime. Jones was one of the most feared boxers and when giving a chance he fought. There was no question Jones fought the top in his division, but there are fighters out there May still has not fought that are holding belts and at the top of the division. To many fighters he did not face that is why May is not the best of all times, never will be.
@Jp4955 Is that the temperature now? very hot
@4:17 beautiful work by floyd, great countering towards the end of the rd...first 2 rds i got floyd winning..
This was a great fight! I give Castillo tremendous amount of credit. Castillo is the ONLY boxer to come close, or even beating, Mayweather. Some argue Castillo won, and I can see why.
Castillo was more aggressive in round 2, but Floyd's accuracy and counter punching won round 2
Round 3 was Floyd's round. Castillo brought the pressure but he wasn't landing. Floyd was landing clean punches in that round
@Elmatador525 I did not know that but pacman did agree to the testing for the second fight and mayweather was given a deadline to sign the contract and he said he was in no hurry to fight, that he had just fought 60 days ago, then his camp denied even being close to an agreement.
I still don't know what people see when they give Castillo that round. I'm actually rewatching that round right now to see lol.
@PhflyDan1 right about what man?
@kedricsample Its just odd how so very few ppl are aware that may called out sugar twice yet may duckd him. he called out cotto at 140 when cotto was 1 of the best at that weight. cotto chooses to reamin inactive in 06 rather than take the challenge yet may ducked him. pwill calls out shane clottey berto and pac. but may is the only ducker floyd didnt fight berto whos biggest win at the time was luis freaking collazo yet may ducked him???? im not disagreeing with you, but you dont find that odd?
@oomzie500 It is a matter of perspective, then: some will consider effectiveness as punches that land clean; some others, like myself, will define effectiveness as the ability to make the opponent fight at your pace, in your style. Both things happened in different moments during this fight, and Castillo landed more punches, and Floyd was forced to fight, something that you don't see often. Thanx for answering, have a good day.
I had him losing the 1st 6 rds, the 9th, 11th & a tie in the point deducted rds(8 &10) & Castillo got away with alot of dirty punches too! & he got outboxed again in the 2nd fight!
we need subtitles for roger
Has mayweather fought south pow?
How can you say round 3 went to Mayweather?
I agree.
@TGUNZ562 Cloyd had no other choice but to accept Shane's challenge... Why would he demand a rematch clause? Or why did it take him to sign the contract TWO DAYS AFTER the deadline? It goes to show he needed a lot of convincing from Sr and Uncle Jeff to get him sign the dotted line....
Harold Letterman questioned the "slip" decision of the ref. Floyd didn't even hit Castillo. It's a good thing that Letterman isn't a real judge.
the difference between all the other fighters that floyd beat and pacman is that pacman always comes at you with combinations all the time........if any of the flurry of punches can land effectively is another question.. as we know floyd is very evasive. and he can also box!!
Yea you pretty much named all of Floyd's fights that some people consider close. I only consider the first Castillo fight close. I scored the second Castillo fight 9-3 or 8-4. I had the Hoya fight 9-3. I had the Judah fight 9-3. I also had the Cotto fight 9-3.
Yea right. Post your scorecards to these fights. It is easy for someone to talk when they can't back up anything. Just continue to talk unless you start posting scorecards.
Well said..Floyd scored a knock down in Rd 2 but it was ruled a "Slip" How?.Mayweather landed a punch just before his foot stepped on Castillo,s foot.Ref made a mistake cos Castillo would have gone anyway with or without the foot stamp.Castillo should have been deducted more than one point cos he kept punching several times after the break..Good Fight over all..
Nobody talks about this but that Castillo did trip over his own legs after getting hit by Floyd, so technically they could have been called a knockdown in round 2.
Castillo was 9 pounds heavier than floyd. That's why he tried to put his body weight on Floyd the whole entire fight. I have round 1, 2, 3, and 4 for Mayweather so far. The crowd is cheering every time castillo throws a combination. Don't let that fool you.
@TheMechanizim yea but a round is scored on EFFECTIVE aggression defense and punching...castillo was aggressive in round 3 but what did he land? floyd was landing the punches...he had good defense so thats 2 out of the 3 castillo was only aggressive so that means they fucked up giving castillo the 3rd rounds it was like floyd vs chavez when in round 1 floyd landed 25/50+ and chavez landed 5/90+ but they gave chavez the round
what kinda punch was castillo leading with at 3:55
looked like a half ass fake kinda punch thats werid
the number 2 guy was a natural super featherweight who never fought so much as junior welterweight,let alone the welterweight level he did fight at.Rank wise,mosely would be the best choice since he is considered the number 1 welterweight by many people but he's not the big name that mayweather likes to fight.
Yes I notice he runs more now, before he was a lot active, but I feel fighters that really have a chance with him he doubts himself a bit. It shows in his boxing, he is better then Pac but I'm sure he will let Pac bring the fight to him. I feel May can really sting an stun Pac with a few quick jabs.
Yeah a few, including Judah, Corley and Mitchell. Against Judah especially he took a few rounds to figure him out (and then went on to dominate) and Zab was able to land some decent shots. I think Manny has a chance, but the smart money is on Mayweather.
@kedricsample nah its not just you... i completely agree
Man Floyd vs pacman will only be debatable until the fight starts, i think there are equal fans on pacmans side as floyd, i personally think pacman would own floyd
Larry Merchant is a sportswriter and a commentator. Most people thought Castillo won. The entire crowd was booing the decision. Jim Lampley said "I dont know what fight the judges were watching"..that says a lot. If a fight is close, and he doesnt agree, he doesnt say that kind of thing. He only says it if its a travesty WHICH IT WAS!
@boricuamm707 Even WITH volume, you can't hear the punches hit-- 'cos they didn't lol.
Scoring Round 3 for castillo was ridiculous.
@robinwu87 I would have no problem with what you're saying except when EVERYONE ELSE beats these same guys they get tons of credit. Judah-Cotto andKhan have these as theyre signature wins. Baldomir was a FOY candidate when they fought..- De La Hoya-this was win that REALLY made Manny a household name. Hatton- Pac got a ton of credit for beating this guy. Mosley-Floyd fought him off a big win, and was considered still one of the best in the world, Pac also got a lot credit for that win
only reason why i can think lederman gave him round 3 was because castillo controlled the center of the ring
Mayweather rarely throws his signature lead right or the pull-counter this fight. You can tell the shoulder was bothering him. He edged out Castillo with one hand this fight and beat him convincingly in the rematch when he had both hands.
@frivera22 Clean and effective punches. Castillo wasn't landing.
@TheDolfan2010 While I wouldn't say I am a true "fan" of Floyd, just not a fan of his pre-fight antics... I am a die-hard boxing fan, and truly appreciate his talent, and execution... I am looking at this objectively, most fans are not die-hards, and want heavy hitting action (look at the decline in boxing since Tyson)... Floyd is drawing interest, because he seems unbeatable (IMO, Castillo won this fight though)... once he is beaten, if he is... alot of his general interest is gone.
Mayweather won rounds 1, 2, and 3. Castillo turned it up in round 3, during the last minute. He tried to steal the round but his total punch output still wasn't enough.
hates them? I doubt that very much and you cant prove it. Larry Merchant lavishes Floyd with praise. He constantly speaks of how skilled he is and how he is winning the fight. Cotto vs Mayweather was close till about round 9 ( I still had Mayweather ahead by a round or two) but then Floyd took over! He clearly won that fight and Lampley had the same score!
I remember this fight, was the first time i saw Mw fight. I thought he lost and thought he was a bum. Things done change thats for damn sure, He's one of the best in the world. I still think he lost this fight though, maybe i have to watch the whole thing again cause i was 16 yrs old when this happen. Im damn near 30 now
Castillo is, and will always be the most offensively skilled fighter Mayweather has ever fought. Marquez may have been the most skilled overall, but not as offensively skilled as Castillo, while Marquez is more of a counter-punching boxer and a thinker, and he was unable to out-think and and out-speed Floyd.
Castillo's offense is very similar to Julio Cesar Chavez in terms of mixing his punches up, patiently cutting distance, and using feints, and winning exchanges.
@Sammy2g3 - Award Mayweather the knockdown in the 2nd? Castillo wasn't even hit with the punch.
lmao, those are professional judges, not youtube bloggers
foreman makes me laugh when he says "you have to take the power off and go for accuracy when youve got the opponent on the ropes" i think he learned that one in zaire...
Gotta say not much happened in that round but round 2 goes to Floyd. So far 2 rounds in the bag for Floyd.
What he does is illegal. That is why he had a point taken off! Castillo landed blows that were illegal and he got a point taken off. Castillo still threw more punches, landed more, and landed at a higher percentage! He also controlled the tempo and the pace of the bout! Also, all the HBO analysts felt Castillo won and the entire crowd was booing at the dubious decision!
@TGUNZ562 You're two months late with your reply,bub....Cloyd didn't want this fight, he was forced to when he danced his way out of Pacquiao's radar....
Im a castillo fan but u cant really complain about his robbery too much after all Floyd Gave him the immediate rematch and won it decisively. This was a good fight tho. ITs fights like these that we need in present day
Maybe mayweather had problems with his shoulder, but castillo was very very good. A very good performance.
@tycoon83 funny you mention floyd ducking pacman but dont mention pacman ducking shane mosley (the true welterweight champ) and a recent calling out by paul williams. you can have your opinion but good grief at least be fair
i agree floyd will beat pac but the performance pac displayed was stunning.
floyd has to be at his best.
Round 3 to Floyd as well. Castillo is pressing unlike the 1st round but he's not landing. Floyd lands stiff jabs to head and particularly the stomach and the occasional right hand. In any cast not a lot of out put from either fighter and Floyd doesn't stay on the ropes long enough for Castillo to put together any real work.
@oomzie500 does not matter weather punches are hard or soft if they are landing they are scoring.look at the hopkins calzagie fight joes punches were pitty pat to the body but they still are scoring its not like the amatures when body does not really count And yes he hit floyd a lot in the clench but thats what u are supposed to do when the other fighter is clenching u.
@kyledagreat27 effective agessiveness means they are effective when they are agressive. not to be smart ass but thats what it means to me lol. plus it depends on who the judges like more anyway.
@DaGeniusOne now im sure that he did stepped on his foot... when falling back, castillo "let" his right foot in the front... he wouldnt fall like that (with his right foot in the front of him) if his right foot was free
Look at 1:40. mayweather turned south paw. damn. . . he has both hands..
@DaGeniusOne hmmm... i think he did... if no, i think, floyd would be complaining and they touched gloves after that... but i admit, i dont see it that clear to be 100% sure... but you also dont see it clear
@kedricsample shane was p4pder and may was still an up and comer. and your going to have to refresh my memory on how floyd ducked andre berto. I dont remember calls for berto calling out mayweather and mayweather turning down berto. the only legitimate time he ducked a fighter was margarito, because floyd wanted cotto at 140 but if you research that arum pulled the plug on that fight saying that cotto was not ready for that kind of fight
Got Floyd winnin' rounds 1-3 so far. Don't see how Ledderman gave round 3 to Castillo.
roger cracking me up!
A fight can be close(meaning it was competitive every single round) but still be won clearly(meaning one of the fighters won more rounds), now if you say the fight was VERY close(meaning it could should have been a DRAW), and then say it was a clear win, then you are contradicting yourself. At this stage we can just guess how a Pac-May fight will play, to say one win surely win is just not right, knowing GREAT upsets have happened in Boxing, and this isn't even mismatch, it can go either way.
@RealTalk687 no doubt. I was concurring with you.
Yes I did and from what I saw, the ref let Castillo get away with alot but I scored the fight just like the judges! 115-111 Mayweather!
I think Money fights Manny JUST LIKE THIS! The only difference being, while Castillo at this point was an EXCELLENT fighter, and Floyd WAS still learning; PacMan is EVEN BETTER!!! BraaP!!!
@mexicaliyaotl - it was a close fight and close fights are always controversial because there are reasons of how the guy won on both sides. If castillo got the decision alot of people would say floyd was robbed. fights like sweetpea v JCC and lewis v holyfield 1 are robberies.
@AliRidah619 Yeah.. Even though THAT is NOT the scrap we ALL wanna see, its still a good fight.. At least their is the very real possibility that Pac could get WHOOPED!! Big Up man
@itiller69
I have. That's why I'm open minded.
That's why I took the liberty of actually learning boxing instead of just watching it, and that's how I learned that Mayweather is a better fighter then Pacquiao.
there's no way we're talking about the same fight.Oscar De La Hoya wasn't nearly as drained as everyone made him out to be.I think it was his age more so than his weight that contributed to his loss.Plus the fact that he can beat good fighters,not great ones.ODLH with all his money and experience had to have had a nutritionist to make sure he lost the weight properly.He chose to fight manny.That he didn't prepare right isn't an excuse.And Floyd's timing was too good for marquez at any weight.
well thats the thing he will have to go to Junior Middle or Middle for any real challenge honestly nobody in Welterweight can even hold a candle to Mayweather
floyd tore his left rotator cuff before this fight in training
How did Lederman possibly give that 3rd round to Castillo. Watched that round trying to find a reason to give the 3rd round to Castillo and I couldn't. Castillo practically missed everything he threw.
@adxgr0undzer0 actually he doesnt know the difference between "your" and "you're".
Out of 43 fights he has 26 knockouts. What the hell are you talking about? Do your research.
personally i rate a clean shot higher than a hold and hit shot. I understand your point that castillo won because of his inside work but i didn't rate his inside work because he was going low too often and was holding too much. I have watched this fight a few times and the first few times i had floyd winning by a point or 2 then i rewatched, taking castillo's inside work into account and i had him winning, I've also scored it 114-114. All i'm saying is that it wasn't a clear win for either guy.
The first two rounds could be scored even. Nobody really landed anything significant and Floyd only landed 8 more punches COMBINED in those rounds. Castillo landed the harder shots even in the first two rounds. After that, Castillo took over. This is not even up for debate dude. Castillo clearly won!
I think mayweather is open for the right hook, and manny speed and volume of punches,he's got great chance
@tycoon83 theres more behind the story that u think bruh
I gave Catillo the round too. He was the one forcing the action and those shots he landed with Lil Floyd on the ropes did more damage than anything Floyd did during the round. Plus, Castillo cut the ring off well. Furthermore, floyd is a dirty fighter with that forearm push he uses!
Floyd should've been awarded the knockdown in the 2nd round. Plus, he won the first three rnds easily.
@adxgr0undzer0 I mean it's a dreaded sport called pugilism in it's earliest moniker. Myself being raised in NYC I never lost a fight that I have been in and the after effect of losing a fight as a professional is like losing a piece of yourself. My point is it's about hitting whilst not getting hit and I don't know anyone in the last ten years who has done that better than Floyd Mayweather jr.
My point exactly! I had it 115-111 for Mayweather!
Yea I personally don't believe Floyd has lost a fight as a pro. Also Floyd was injured in this fight. He had a torn rotator cuff. Look what happened in the second fight. Floyd out boxed him without question.
@PhflyDan1 yeah its a guarantee war
i wonder if he was carrying oscar to set up a rematch... cause he really did leave a lot of punches in the holster when he had oscar open.
I agree...The guy landed 5 punches that were not effective at all...
@llerret09
Make no mistake about this... Mayweather needs that money more than Pacquiao (not that either is in desperate need)... Pacquiao is a far bigger name worldwide... Mayweather tried to run for political office, he'd get laughed at... Pac-Man is on a road to presidency in the Philippines... plus he is already transitioning into movies... I wouldn't be surprised if he is the 4th athlete to reach the Billion dollar mark (1st - Tiger; 2nd - LeBron; 3rd - De La Hoya).