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Halibut Rigging: Simple Bounce Ball Rig (How To)
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- čas přidán 15. 03. 2020
- Here is a detailed step by step of how I rig for halibut in the bay and the ocean.
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Man you make the clearest, easiest to follow, best videos for helping learn all of this, no extra fluff, nothing to skip past, and you don't miss any steps, thank you so much!
Thank. I really appreciate your comment.
I tried this rig out last Saturday. It really helps avoid the line twist I was experiencing with a three way swivel. Thanks Moo!!
Glad it worked for you. Tight lines.
Hey Moomoo, I just got a kayak and caught my first keeper my 4th time out using your bounce ball rig! Thank you so much for the super helpful videos. Tight lines!
Grats. That's so awesome. You'll catch many many more as the bite gets hotter.
Awesome MooMoo, thank you for your effort and taking it step by step.... I'm so glad I found your channel! I used to live in the Bay Area and now I'm just up the coast, in PNW.
Thank you 😁
100% love and respect! Will definitely be using that knot. Tight lines.
Thanks 😁
Great presentation Moo! this rig is exactly what I've been looking for
Good job, Moo! Been there, done that. Good rig. I've found as I'm getting older shortening everything up by a foot, sticks in more in the Halibuts face so they exhort less energy biting your bait. Great job!
Thanks
Thanks Moo, I keep coming back to this video for a refresher!!! I appreciate this.
Thanks
I can tell this guy KNOWS his stuff. Well done.
Thanks for the kind words.
Thanks for the tutorial I’m going to try and mimic this setup for my first trip for Hali! 😎🤙🏼 Thanks MOo
Go get em.
Thank you Moo for sharing your knowledge and amazing personality in your videos
Thank you for the kind words. I really appreciate it.
very good video. thank you. i will be using it
i used your links because this is the information we are looking for not only how to, but what equipment sizes and stuff.
Thank you. I really appreciate it.
That's a great looking rig Moo! 👍
Thanks John. I appreciate it.
Great information Moo. My set up is almost the same with your, except I prefer the 4 to 5 feet leader and shorter distance from 3 way swivel to the sinker ( about 18"). Get ready Moo. See you on the water soon.
It's almost time 😁😁
Very nice video. Nothing fancy but really easy to understand. Thank you!
Thank you
Thank you Moo 🤗👍🤙 . Going to try this . Still trying to catch my first halibut from my kayak. 🙌🙌👍
Can't believe you haven't try this yet hehe
Excellent detailed video, much appreciated.
Thanks 😊
Thanks, Moo! I'll try this rig tomorrow
Good luck. Hope you get a big butt 😁😁
Good stuff. Never thought about making the hook slide on its shank like that.
It's great. It can accommodate different size baits.
Tight lines everyone. Gearing up for the new season.
Nice one buddy this will be a great demo for fishermen
Thank you 😊😊
Never thought I would search for this vid but I’m glad I found it brother!
It's a butt time! LOL
Awesome! Going halibut fishing for my first time Saturday. This will be my second time fishing in the ocean. This was extremely helpful. Thanks. Subbed.
Thanks. Have fun and be safe.
@@MooMooOutdoors be safe as well. I ended up landing a shaker halibut, a 23” halibut, a 5lb striper, and we missed my biggest halibut at the boat. We hooked into 8 halibut, a striper and two bat rays, one ray was 48 lbs. The 2 hot rods had a 6” sling blade chrome/uv blue, and chrome/green herring dodger. A 20.5” leader from main line swivel to sling blade, a 19.5” leader from dodger to a sliding snell with a treble stinger. We used tray herring and live shiner perch. Shiners caught all but 1 hali, 1 ray and the striper. Thanks again!
great video easy to see all the details at a great speed
Thanks.
so well done -- great info -- really helpful.
Thank. I really appreciate the comment.
Very nice tutorial. Interesting
Thanks Gin
Great Info my brother, Thank you. I learned a couple things there.
Thank you
Great video Moo! Looking forward to more video.
Thanks
Awesome tutorial video MooMoo. Thanks for going step by step. Not using the three ring swivel is a great idea. I like how it's able to slide up and down. Very cool. I am going to have to use that. Giant fish catch man. That thing was bigger than your chest. Holy cow what a fish.
Thank you. This rig works for me very well and I'm sure it will for others.
great video, more videos exactly like this would be nice!
Thank you. I will try.
This is a great setup.. nice video.
Thanks
very similar to my rigs but shorter on the leader and the distance of the weight , and I use smaller hooks...in case I catch some live bait...light wire live bait hooks, with a smaller treble .....good video...TEACHING CLASS!!!!!
Thanks Camo-Joe
Good stuff! I love seeing the different ways we fish!
Have you been out again since our last trip?
@@MooMooOutdoors No sir- Been working from home but I'm on call for the whole sales team and cant stray form my computer :( how about you?
@@christianfilloux I thought about going last Saturday but with the rain and wind decided to stay home. If there was a hot bite, I would've been out there 😂😂
@@MooMooOutdoors Good call! It was crazy weather. i fished for perch in the surf and got a few but i was completely soaked even in waterproof top and waders
Great job Moo! Corona can't beat fishermen!
No catching corona for this guy 😜😜
Great step by step. Thanks
Thanks for watching.
Shout out Moho Hope to meet you Friday. You're the man I was wanting to meet. Ty for this tutorial
Who's Moho? 😂🤣
Hahaha am at work MooMoo haha autocorrect is what I hate
See you Friday 😁
Thank you i learn something new today
Thanks
Great job buddy well done stay safe my friend 👍😷
Thanks John. You stay safe as well.
And there it is! Thanks man!!!
I hope you are slaying them right now.
Little confusion with the "shelter in place mandate"... So I'll be heading out to OP tomorrow. I'll let you know how I do.....
@@shotgunaaron please let me know. I hope you get em.
Sicc hali rig video thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching
Great tutorial! Subbed!
Thank you. I really appreciate it 🤙
Its interesting to see the rigging going down the coast. We go a bit heavier in Oregon (Pacific City) which isnt as big as they seem to use in Puget, which is yet smaller than AK. We also tend to go lighter on the weight line so it breaks off 1st, but not using a lure with bait I don't suppose it matter much (cost) Love the knots. I'm going to give a lighter setup a try and see how it works out. I'm also going to look at your foam on the rod tech, I have mine corded but that limits where I can go on my Tandem Island. Thanks for sharing!
I hope to fish the Oregon Coast one day. I love exploring new areas. Yeah I'm not a fan of rod leash. They tend to get in the way of things and might get tangled with I flip. With your TI, you won't have to worry about flipping 😁😁.
Good video I can’t wait to go fishing 🎣
About 4 months away for butt bite 😢😢🤣😂
Nice strait forward Video. Fish a very similar rig up here in AK. MOO MOO has it right this is a effective set up. To many people think that halibut are trash food eaters. Not true in the least they are true predators. We have caught them up here with whole king salmon in their bellies. Halibut swim and hide next to the bottom. Even if they are not hungry they are always looking up. so if your bait is within 10' of the bottom they can see it and small it. Keep educating Young Man. Hats off to ya!
Thank you very much.
Very thorough. Thank you!
Thank you for watching
@@MooMooOutdoors I subscribed. Some rigs will take practice. Some are simple. Just like life. Love fishing. Tight lines!!!
Great video
Thank you
Nice rig for halibut. Ive only used flashers for salmon.
I don't use flashers even for salmon 😜😜
very useful！Thank you very much!
Thank you for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it.
Reel nice bouncing stinger rigg....It definitely gets a hook into the short strikers!!
Thank you Wes. Them butts love to short strike 😁😁
Hell yeah thanks for the tips!
👍😊👍
Great video thanks
Thanks 😁
Nice video! Looking to hit the bay soon! Maybe I’ll see you out there 🤷🏾♂️
Thanks. Halibut are starting to show now. Go get em!
Thanks MooMoo hitting paradise pier tomorrow morning
I hope you got some
@@MooMooOutdoors it was good in the morning caught a couple shakers we had to pull out by noon the wind picked up bad
Thank you moo moo
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This helped !
Glad it was helpful.
Great video - thank you for posting. All your vids are fun to watch. Would you run the same rig setup (except end tie the single hook and ditch the treble) if you were using live anchovies instead of dead bait? I'm wondering if you would still use the bead chain and all the other stuff and troll the same way. Thanks again.
It will depend on the size of the live bait. When I'm using a small live bait like an anchovy, I use a single J-hook and nose hook the bait. When I'm using a big live jack smelt, I use the same rig and hook the treble at the tail. Yes, I still use the bead chain for live bait and troll like I'm trolling a dead bait some times.
Thank you
Go get em 🎣😂
Can’t wait to give it a try for San Diego halibut when the big ones come in.
Btw, Moo moo. I really enjoy your channel. We typically fish the mouth area of San Diego bay with swim bait on Jig Heads. We catch spotties, sandys, calico, sculpin, and a few keeper Hali. Now I’m going to specifically target Hali, in some of the flats where we have hooked halis on jig heads. But, now I’m going to use your bounce rig with live sardines. Yesterday I spent a few hours tying up the rigs. I always manage to snag something on the bottom, so I’m going to run 30# braid main, with about 12’ of 25# flouro, and the rig will be 15# flouro. That way I get the advantage of the braid main which I like, the invisibility of the 12’ of flouro, and the lighter leader. So, if/when I snag, I can break off the offending leader part and easily replace it. Going out this Monday…as it is supposed to be a moderate incoming tide to drift the boat. Fingers crossed..I’m hungry for fresh halibut.
How did it go? Did you try the rig?
@@MooMooOutdoors …Thanks for replying. I really enjoy your videos, and they are very informative. We used the rig at the mouth of San Diego bay today ( 5/2).We had several light to moderate hits that put large wide spaced teeth marks in the bait (6 to 9” live sardines). And I had one huge hook up. It was the strongest fish I’ve had in a long time, other than when I recently caught a seal. I knew it was a Hali, based upon the behavior. I let him take line, and was starting to gain on him…then “bang”!! I think his teeth cut the line at the first hook. I run a main of 30# braid, to a 25# flouro topper, and the rig was 15# flouro. I do the 15# to make it easier to break away from a snag. But, I’m afraid it cost me a big personal best. I don’t think it broke because of force, but likely from Hali teeth. I did catch 3 large sand bass, and along the jetty some calis.
One thing though..I had trouble with the line to the hooks tangling. Any hints on how to avoid that?
@@jeffreyharley1480 Yeah, halibut are toothy fish. Sometime I notice my line frayed after one fish and I switch the leader. As far as the tangle, reel it in slow when checking or changing the bait, make sure the bait is not spinning too fast because sometimes even the bead chain cannot keep up, and avoid making tight turns and make wide turns and keep the bait suspended by keep moving.
Nice video !
Thanks
Nice! I’d been using magic thread instead of tying a snell. Same effect tho.
Yes, magic thread works. My buddy uses magic thread.
Very well done! Even I understood it, :)
😂😂 Thank you.
The first finger halibut bite marks tells me your doing well on some big halibut. Great set up, only difference for us is that we bounce ball B-2 squid lures rather than bait. The B-2 lures also work on White Seabass which are feeding on the same squid balls with the halibut.
I gotta try the b2 squid
Thanks for all your great videos. What is the reason to tie the braid to the mono?
Mono provides stretch and abrasion resistance.
Cool cool cool...always learning bro..flatfish are a trip. Their eyes on one side wierd me out Haha! Great videos as usual 👍
Butts are my favorite fish to eat therefore my favorite fish to catch 😂😂
@@MooMooOutdoors I will agree they are tasty...the few times I've had it I enjoyed it👍
First fisherman I’ve come across that seems to know what they’re doing.
Haha, I'm pretty sure there are more out there. Thanks
@@MooMooOutdoors the passion though. I know, though.
What size is the bead? Thank you for the education. You are a good and kind person for sharing your knowledge! Stay Safe and hope you heal soon.
I use 8mm. Thanks.
If you snag your sinker on an object..I use 10 pound test line , only on sinker line , so I can break it off and not lose rest of set up.
Thanks for the tip and I have done this before too but I can usually unsnag with some force with 25 lb line. When it does break off, the double surgeon's loop knot that I use for the sinker breaks before the palomar knot.
Great video Moomoo! Can you use a barrel swivel instead of the bead chain swivel? What is the advantage of the bead chain swivel over the barrel?
A lot of times barrel swivel can't keep up with all the spinning and the leader line gets twisted. Bead chain or chain swivel prevents from the leader line getting twisted.
Good content as always. Curious, why do you prefer this method over the more common 3-way swivel?
I started out with 3 way and one day I ran out of 3 way and did it this way then I realized I was getting much less, almost no tangles.
Getting setup for this coming spring season and this video was very helpful! What oz. weight do u recommend?
I like 8-12oz. 8oz mostly and 12oz against strong current in the bay.
I just found your channel. Great video. Do you that same setup when using live anchovies? I fished with a friend about two weeks ago. His setup only used a hook (smaller than what you suggest) through the nose. No stinger. I am going you try your setup when we go again. The anchovies seem pretty fragile, and I was wondering if your larger hook and stinger kills the bait. I have heard some people don’t hook the stinger into the fish. Thanks again for the informative video! I am now subscribed.
Yeah this stinger is little too big for live anchovy drifting but great for jack smelt or shiner perch. I just nose hook the live anchovy when I do have them.
Great video and thanks for sharing your knowledge. So without the flasher, weight line is 2” and bait line is 3”. What is your length for weight and flasher/bait line length? Thanks again!
I put the flasher 1 foot from the bead chain and 2 feet leader from the flasher.
Referred to as a "Trap-Hook". Halibut have a habit of biting for taste and spitting out.
Thanks for video. This is a setup I been looking for from A to Z. I used the same sliding hook but the snell knot didn’t stay long after it’s hit the water. Have you ever had that issue. Thanks again!
Usually if the snell knot is loosening, it was not tighten enough. After a while you develop a feel for it and know how tight you tie the snell knot.
Pennel rig is much more simpler on adding second hook to the line, but thanks for sharing ur way
Thanks on providing links, i ordered some chain beads since u recommended
Great video, thank you! Can I ask what kind of depth you were fishing in? 🎣 🚣♂️
It all depends which part of the bay I'm fishing. Anywhere from 10 feet to 40 feet of water.
Hi moo. Great video. Curious if It would be better to place the trap rig and bait on the sliding swivel instead? Would the bait stay a little higher in the water column? What rig do you recommend for using lures? Do you like the same rig for live bait?
If the bait is on the sliding swivel, it will be a hard time or take a while to get to the bottom I think. I use the same rig for using lures at well and live bait. For the live bait, I use smaller hooks.
How often does that front hook get the fish vs the stinger treble? Just curious... seems like its usually the back, debating weather to drop that front hook to simplify. great vid! thank you
From my experience the front hook hookup is 10-20% but I feel that the front hook is necessary when baiting a live bait.
I'm a beginner when it comes to knots. I'm wondering if you can list what knots you used again (I know you mentioned them in the video) and I also I wonder if there is a good video on tying them.
My buddy Ryan has great knot tying videos. Check him out.
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It that foam pipe insulation on your rods? For flotation or other reason? I went to Rockwall for the first time this week and got a striper and halibut using your rigging method! Thanks.
That's awesome. Yes the insulation is for a float. I dropped my rod several times in the water and I always get it back 😊.
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what if I use swimbait? does is gonna do same action or it will prevent to do the tail movement if I hooked it up into the treble hook?
I not sure if it will roll with a paddle tail swimbait. I have used Sl'eel from Bransonbaits (no paddle tail) and it rolls nicely.
for trolling what are the advantages of sliding sinker vs. 3 way or spreader bar?
I never used the spreader bar but from my experience I get less tangle with sliding.
Wow out there catching off Stinson beach already
No no. This is old footage to get attention 😂🤣.
MooMoo Outdoors I’ve seen people catching them already so I wouldn’t be surprised if you already catching them!
@@OldManAndTheSea 😁😁
Lol, fifty pound… my leader is heavier than that… but I’m hunting Pacific Halibut (up to 500 pounds); you’re going after California Halibut (actually a flounder and only up to around 30 pounds). Come up to Alaska, nothing like hooking into a 100 pound halibut and fighting that monster, you’ll love it!
I use either a 1 pound weighted halibut jig head, or a setup consisting of a circle hook on 3 feet of leader and a weight of 1 to 3 pounds on 12 to 18 inches of leader (lighter than the leader to the hook), both separated by a halibut spreader bar… six foot ugly stick and a big penn reel with about 1000 feet of line.
For bait I stop at the dock. I reach down into the water and grab a small clump of tube worms off the side of the dock, I cut open the tubes, and cut the worms into half inch chunks and put those on a size eight hook with a light split shot six inches up the leader… I jig that by the dock to catch the little surf perch hanging out there, throw a couple dozen in the bucket and then use them two or three at a time on the hook between 5 and fifteen feet off the bottom (five if I want to also catch rockfish, fifteen if I don’t want any rockfish). I haven’t in the past, but I want to start catching squid and use chunks of squid added on to the hook with only 2 perch, everyone says halibut love squid, no reason not to take advantage of another “free” bait source (I have to pay a ton for the boat, the gear, and the gas; I feel it’s silly to pay for bait, too)… besides, my property is off grid two hours from town, why would I go all the way to town to buy bait that I can catch close by, and in the case of the surf perch, before I even get on the boat…
Oh, and before coming to Alaska to fish for pacific halibut you need to do some soul searching, because lots of fishermen (myself included) grow bored with fishing anywhere else after catching monster halibuts and big salmon in Alaska, where you can have your crab or shrimp pot soaking while catching monsters, then the next day dive for scallops and abalone, and on the third day hunt Sitka deer, elk, moose, etc….. it’s paradise, but afterwards most everyplace else isn’t worth wasting the time dropping lines in the water….
Nice video. Tight lines!
This is a great write up on Pacbut rigging. Thanks.
Still learning how to fish but is this rig only helpful for halibut if you are on a kayak or can you also use it for fishing from the pier?
This rig is for trolling from a kayak or a boat. From the pier, you can use Carolina Rig or Drop Shot Rig.
Do you use this same setup when using live baits? I typically slow troll on my hobie with live jack smelt... Just bought all the little things from amazon so I can now tie this rig. I usually just use the 3 way swivel.. This looks interesting so I must try it. Hoping for less line twists and to give the bait more of a natural presentation where he can cruise along more freely. Just sub'd
Yes, same set up for jack smelt but smaller hooks for live anchovy. Good luck.
@@MooMooOutdoors Thanks MooMoo. You da man
How long is your mono leader you attach to the braid? Thank you!
You mean topshot? I usually go 5-10 feet but it does not really matter.
Is there a big difference between using a treble or single hook for the stinger? I hate using trebles on a kayak they're a pain to deal with.
I want to say you get much better hookup ratio especially because halibut chomp the bait rather than gulp.
How would you recommend to rig if fishing rockfish/ling from the shore? Can this set up be used also? Or is it mostly for jigging and trolling?
This is more of trolling and drifting with fast current. I recommend high and low rig for shore fishing.
@@MooMooOutdoors thank you!
It looked like it was enough to put the net in the water and a huge flounder would immediately jump there :D
😂😂
4 idiots that don't know how to fish gave a thumbs down. I gave a thumbs up just because the explanation was very clear and you had proof you caught fish.
Haha I know right. Them haters 😂🤣
What weight size do you use when fishing around yetties? I’ve fished with 6 oz torpedo and it seems like it floating and not hitting the bottom. I’m new at kayaking and any advise will be appreciated. Thank you
I use 12 oz when bouncing with fast current like in the bay and 8 oz in the ocean. You can get away with 6 oz but you'll have to let a lot more line out which I don't like to do.
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Why braid to mono to the swivel and not braid straight to the swivel?
I like having a stretchy line and/or slow action rod when trolling for halibut. And for abrasion resistance. Braided line breaks easily when rubbed against rock and reefs when in the Ocean. trolling for halibut.
will a halibut hit a hoohie rig without bait?
Yes, My go to lure when I run out of bait.
I assume the weight is supposed to hit the ground and troll the bait just above ground level? If so how do you detect that you have it the ground? I always have hard time with this trolling. Got that same rod now as well btw.... yet to catch a fish on it though. Stripers have been playing hard to get.
Yes keep the weight on the bottom. This is commonly called "bounce ball" rig. You literally bounds your weight on the bottom as you troll and you can tell it by tip of your rod. If your rod tip is not moving, you are most likely not on the bottom.
MooMoo Outdoors thanks. Guess the bay doesn’t have any trees to get hung up at like at reservoirs. Typically at deeper channels of the bay? Can’t wait to get by first halibut after catching last year my first salmons.
I'm confident that you'll get some. Not much snag in the bay. Mayne some debris or seaweed on the bottom.
Hi, trying to look into your link in Amazon and I need some help.
For halibut fishing you have link for
1) Swivel lock snap #4 are you referring to #4 -77 lbs 100pcs?
2) barrel swivel 1/0 50pcs or 1/0
100pcs? Is this the same barrel ,but different quantity?
Thanks
1) Yes, #4 77lb is what I use.
2) Yes, they are the same. Just different quantity
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If I buy the dead herring from the Asian market should I freeze the bait and take it with me wherever I want to chase some butts?
Does asian or korean market have herrings?
@@solo022667 I have no clue if they have herring or even if they do how good the quality is. If they do have it, I recommend freezing it when you get it and brining it the night before using it. I have a easy brine video.
When is halibut bite picking up? Ready for my first but hunt.
Historically end of March and beginning of April. There will be in soon.