What happened to Oscar?
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Oscar was a star for Chelsea and Brazil, he left European football for good in 2016, aged 25, and then headed for China during the peak of his career, and never returned.
So, what did happen to Oscar?
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Even as someone who simply wants to see the best players playing in the best league, I do respect Oscar for being up front about his motives. Some people put money over footballing legacy and there’s nothing wrong with that at the end of the day.
Compare that to someone like Henderson who is still trying to BS people into believing he went to the Saudi league for footballing reasons.
Don’t talk about people man.
What they do is none of your business
@@olamidesuleiman7423I personally will never talk about another person again. Thank you for the sage wisdom
If he was upfront about it, I would accept it, people use the fact he was poor before going to Chelsea as a way to defend his motives to go to China, forgetting that Chelsea paid him just a bit less.
Totally agree. Got no problem with footballers being honest, got a problem with them (or anyone) insulting my intelligence.
@@olamidesuleiman7423 Don't go around telling people what is or isn't their business
What happened to Oscar? He basically just wanted to take care of his family and gave them a future.
He could've done that at Chelsea....he just saw a better offer and decided that it was worth more than an amazing football career
He was already a multi millionaire though
I just don’t buy this. He already had enough money to do that for generations to come.
Yeah because poor Premier league players aren't paid enough for that.
@@danpreston564What’s wrong with doing it for MORE generations to come then? He’s accumulating generational wealth
I’m a brit living in Shanghai with a season ticket for Shanghai Port. The team is absolutely terrible (lost to a thai team in ACL) but Oscar has always put 100% in, delivers killer crosses, and scores a few too! He must be so frustrated with his teammates because they hardly put them away!
Big fish in a little pond, probably helps him a lot.
honestly you can never accurately measure how good a chinese side is, i'm a shenhua fan and on our day we look like asian champions but the very next day we concede 2 and lose to a bottom half team
@@joeylau7578 lol we were in terrible form actually but beat you lot 5-0! But yeah you’re right, you mostly see how bad chinese football really is when its the asian champions league haha😀
More interested to hear what it's like living in China as a brit. What are wages and cost of living life? The UK is absolutely dire for young people now. We all live in poverty with no chance of living the quality of life our parents/grandparents had
@@ilikelampshades6 in general the economy is pretty bad, but the cost of living is still relatively cheap. One problem is everyone goes to university compared to uk, so there are millions of graduates and very few graduate jobs. They go to uni just to work in a shop. I’m lucky to have a phd so i have more opportunities.
If you're offered a 400% salary increase in a relatively short career, i think for most people it would be a no brainer
let me add more to this comment.
If you're offered a 400% salary increase in any kind of career and you know you will succeed at that new place with more free time and maybe a less toxic workplace and environment..... Most people would take it.
Chinese super league is very volatile and politically driven. You can ask any Chinese person and they will tell you that. They are definitely more toxic than Chelsea although I don't like chelsea
100% but let football fans be the moral high ground and act as if they are above it, like the clubs aren't spending millions upon millions. It's so weird. 😂
@@artie8561 i imagine you played there?
Most do it
They just try to disguise it going there to play during their last 2-3 years like cr7, messi and many others since they have nothing left to prove and even if they did the chances to change it would be really low
Chelsea cult hero, and one of my favorite players at Chelsea during Mou's 2nd reign. even tho he struggled under Mou, he still managed to captivate some of us.
I really liked him but he was one of the reasons why Chelsea decided to let KDB go.
He’s still getting paid more than Halland in China 😂😂😂
@@henrimarjoan7876was just about to say this. It was a shame as you could see the quality kdb had albeit still raw. His first game was quality but Jose wanted more energy at the time and that's what Oscar gave. He didn't have the patience to watch kbd grow and I give props to him for asking to leave. He knew how key playing week in week out would be and look where he is more. Well go down as one of the great prem midfielders in history.
@@henrimarjoan7876tbf it’s not really his fault
@@Deathmare235 Ofc it isnt. Its Joses and the boards fault. But that doesnt change the reason.
I think a lot of it comes down to culture too, a lot of South Americans, Brazilians especially don’t view European football the same way Europeans do. Coming to Europe is just a job for a lot of them, so if you get a job offer that’s more money, 95% of people take it. Their passion for football comes from their own continent and they choose to end their careers playing for the club they supported growing up, similar to Europeans.
Christofahhhh
That’s not accurate
Winning the champions league and playing for a big European club is the ultimate dream for any Brazilian footballer
@@caio5987what @iiwi758 said.
Of course, Brazilians rate highly winning competitions like the Champions League and the Premier League. Plus, some people dream playing in bug clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Man U, Liverpool, etc. But getting to play in the seleção first, then winning the World Cup is the ultimate goal as BR player.
Ser jogador do Chelsea não é o sonho dos moleques brasileiros, por mais que pague bem.
@@iiwi758Thats ofc is the biggest dream but that doesnt mean that the other are not.
Not really, most Brazilians value the Copa Libertadores far more than then UCL@@caio5987
I think a lot of people are missing the point and also don’t know about other things like taxes. Basically half his wage at Chelsea is taxed, while living in the most expensive city in the world, London. Bro got wayyyy more money and was able to funnel that cash into his family and friends. Friends btw in countries like Brazil are very much like family, especially when you all grow up poor. He saw a way to take care of everyone right down to multiple future generations. He is the guy in his family tree that maybe even hundreds of years from now, his great-great-great grandkids can say “hey grandpa Oscar was really the man, he put us all in a position where we can do as we please, not have to worry and pursue life vs just survive it”.
Kudos Oscar 👏🏼
you are not realizing the brand deals you can get if you stay in europe.
@@overlytoxic pretty sure his agent looked at Oscar’s market value and rate he’d receive from brand deals in Europe and it probably was minimal vs the deals he’d receive in China on top of his gargantuan salary.
That goal against Juventus was a thing of beauty - one of the goals I've watched back the most
Even as a Juve fan, that goal was fenomenal. Buffon even praised it iirc.
Even more beautiful with the fact that he rounded Pirlo to do it
2 goals in that game lol
There was a reason why KDB never got a chance at Chelsea. Oscar was class. Sad he left. Could've been something more
That goal against QPR in 2014-15, running into the area and hitting it with the outside of his right boot, is still one of my all time favourite goals.
Still nothing as glorious as his goal against Juventus in the 2012/2013 champions league group stage. That curl, especially against Buffon, was ABSOLUTELY world class.
I really miss him at Chelsea.
@@marthanda-977On debut as well, if I remember correctly.
THAT FABREGAS ASSIST.
@@scsutton11st start for Chelsea, & UCL debut
He was one of my favourite players for Chelsea, respect him for securing his family
Yeah he was skint beforehand
He’d already done that at Chelsea. It’s just greed tbh
@@silvesta5027blame his family
all want oscar money without themselves working hard
@@silvesta5027 thank you
I don’t think you get how money works. Yes footballers earn an obscene amount but unless you’re one of the top top players or manipulate it to create other businesses like Beckham you can’t support your whole family, especially if they’re living in a favela in Brazil earning pennies.@@silvesta5027
Out of all the players who've gone to the CSL, I can fully respect Oscar and Fellaini. They may have gone there for the money, but they always gave their best for the teams they played for, stuck to their contracts, even extended them, and had been amazing professionals.
He's made over 160 million in wages since the move, not to mention his wealth from before. Assuming he invested the vast majority and has avoided nose-bleeding taxes as all footballers seem to have a knack for since he left in 2014 then he's probably worth anywhere from 200-300 million pounds now.
If it were any other career, having had eight years of stable employment with a good salary that allows you to support your family would be seen as the peak of accomplishment. He's done more than well for himself. It is strange that anyone would criticise him for looking for money. Trophies, glory or a legacy won't feed his family.
Chelsea and any other European club would look after him just fine
no EU club would pay him 500k/w decade ago not even now, and EU taxes are almost 50%. Messi CR7 almost went to jail for tax evasion@@jakehyams8659
@@jakehyams8659 they definitely wouldn't be paying him as much as the Chinese league can give and have given
Somehow I doubt he was living paycheck to paycheck at Chelsea lol
I think it's because sport isn't "any other career", and you expect people who play sport to have a certain level of competitiveness.
After the 7-1 fiasco at the World Cup Semifinal of 2014, Oscar should've been salvaged . He was one of the few to play well with Neymar Jr.
Oscar is a rarity in football that he was at least honest that he went for the money (unlike players like Delph & Henderson would lie consistently about their reasons for moving). As much as we like to romanize sports if someone offered to pay you x4 your wages you'd be a fool to not at least consider it, besides he'd won the Premier League, the League Cup & the Europa League with Chelsea (not mind blowing but he has won things in Europe). So I get why he moved, he'd already achieve his goals in Europe & wanted to secure his family's future, you have to respect that much at least.
Seeing Oscar back in Europe on the January transfer window next season would be mad!
I still have a lot of love for Oscar. All Chelsea fans knew he left because he wanted to secure his family's future for years and years to come. Sure, he probably could have done more with his career given his talents, but he was honest and upfront about why he made that move and I don't hold it against him in the slightest.
Manchester United will pay £80 million for him in June. Then not play him for some reason.
That or make another loan offer for a player that was good maybe 5 years ago & is now over the hill. 🤣🤣
I learned that ‘winning’ is an abstract concept. Not everyone shares the same ‘concept’ what winning really is. For some, it’s prestigious trophies and worldwide fame. For others, it might be making sure your parents and siblings never have to starve again.
You think the money he could earn in Europe wouldn’t be enough to do that? He was already rich beyond the dreams of nearly everyone.
Yeah they pay em pennies and peanuts in the prem
@@danpreston564 he was earning less than half of that playing for Chelsea. Great but not better than China's offer.
Let's say he has a big family circle of 10 people. His wages from Chelsea is more than enough to make sure they don't starve if they hire a financial advisor and keep the money rolling. Oscar's argument is valid for a player playing in south America but definitely not a Premier league playet
@@artie8561 em a big family isn't 10 lol . i have about 100+ family members very common in SA and Africa .
Was one of my fav players. Loved watching him, even put Brazil on sometimes to watch him
Saw him a few years ago in China (maybe Ighalo too but not sure) and he was incredible. Barely looked like he was even trying and just ripped everyone apart.
One thing I liked about Oscar was his off the ball movements. He's a thinking forward ála Thierry Henry. He would think of how his teammates play and adapt his off ball movements to complement. Of course when the team is off form, it became obvious he suffers greatly as well. But when its on form, he elevates it.
Ah yeah, the most fun part of football... off ball movements
After hearing his story, I don't blame him now ❤ so open and honest
It’s a well paid job, that’s all football really is and he found a better offer so fair play to him.
Everyone buys into these sound bites players are media trained to say in interviews when the majority of the time that isn’t reality. It’s about taking care of those important to you by using what talents you have. It’s refreshing to see a footballer like Oscar be honest about that.
The thing is that it may not be the case. He was one of the highest paid player in Europe. And people achieve prosperity with this sort of money already. To play in China, you earn more but for what though? You can support your family. And the family of your family. It will never be enough if the Chelsea's money is not enough. That's why so many football players go bankrupt. To support your family, you just provide them with good education and they can earn a good living with them. To "support" them end up hurting them the most because they just keep relying on you. That's how it is to be fair
@@artie8561At the end of the day being a professional footballer is just a job. That's it. I hardly doubt there are more than 10% of people who'll turn down a 400% raise offer from a different company.
He might also and probably does have business plans for the future beyond football. After all a football career is a relatively short life experience so why not take full financial advantage of it while he still can?
He knew his own limits. He hadn't played for Brazil for 3 years. He was always inconsistent at Chelsea. Took the money. Fair play to him.
he scored 9 goals and 15 assists last year when football resumed in China, he's still have quality even at 32
Especially after growing up poor, most people would do that for their famililies.
Man he used to be one of my favorite player from brazil.. I was really sad when I wasn’t able to see him anymore on tv and not having an internet regularly didn't even knew for a couple months where he was at!😢
kudos to him, legacy wont feed your family.. and also hes won alot of trophies in chelsea plus in china so win-win
You talk like his Chelsea salary wasn’t feeding his family…
@@Aiyoukim you talk like if someone quadruple your salary you wont change job
Many players dream of a European career like his time at Chelsea..playing for a top team, winning a league title and scoring impressive goals in the Champions League..Some might see it as wasted talent, but he prioritized maximizing his financial gains..I don't blame him for being realistic..What if he suffered a serious injury the next season ending his chances forever..It's easy for fans to say giving up money leads to greater achievements but the decision is complex when you're in that position..His choice ensures a prosperous life for his family for generations..While achieving this might be possible by staying in Europe signing a contract provides certainty..unlike the uncertainty of continually striving for the top..Perhaps he valued the financial reward more, having already experienced genuine European football..This situation is similar to Al Nassr's Talisca even though his exposure to European football was limited..Every week I click on a highlight of Talisca and it's a crazy goal..It's puzzling how Brazil dismisses players not in the top leagues but includes those from their domestic league...
This would be a good argument, if he wasn't already making tens of tens of millions of dollars already. How much money do you need?
Well well said mate
@@joalco3 he's made 4X the amount he could've earned in Europe now.
@@joalco3 It's relative I guess. Folks living on streets might think how much do we normals need, while we think the same of the ones above.
In some communities more money you have the more people cling on to you for financial help. Some footballers have helped fund a whole village.
I think there's worse case of money use than what Oscar prioritised. Hope he's having a good life.
@@mus-abumama so? he wouldnt be broke in europe
Besides this story, I like how this channel provides different perspectives on stories.
Oscar was never going to be a world class player (he lacked consistency at Chelsea) so fair play to him for knowing it and securing the bag
To be fair there's only maybe 5 players a generation that actually reach World Class status, so he made the sensible decision of striking while the iron's hot. Don't blame him one bit, if he stayed in Europe he might've had maybe 50% of that cash (& 3x the abuse) from social media calling him a flop.
Can we remember that Oscar wasn't only present at the 7x1 game, but also the only goal on his team, was made by Oscar
The only thing I remember about him is the last minute goal against Germany in the 2014 World Cup semi-final but it was a loss of 7-1 for Brazil. It was the most horrifying moments for Brazil back then and even now.
And even in the darkest hour, Oscar did his best
I rememer his goal vs Juventus where he turned and smashed it into the top corner past Buffon
To understand Oscar's career, you've got to explain his controversy in his youth team promotion. He was widely regarded as the "new Kaka" in São Paulo's system and even played some games in first team at 16y. But he decided to leave for Internacional despite being a teenager, which led to a judicial battle that ultimately made him stay at Internacional (not before an overrule of a decision that made he go back to São Paulo). He did so because he felt he wanted more money. I held a grudge at him for that decision at the time being a São Paulo fan, but now that I'm older, I understand him, he always felt he had to take care of his family.
growing up i loved watching him play alongside costa and hazard for chelsea. and i always wandered where he suddenly dropped off so suddenly and while he was so young. that said no disrespect to china but i don’t think oscar was earning meagre wages at chelsea especially considering that he won the premier league.
O mann...the likes of Oscar, hazard,mata and Willian is like a magical show... great tricks, dribbles amazing goals so beautiful to watch and these are the player's that made people like me to love Chelsea more and more 💙💙
Not a Chelsea fan, but liked Oscar when he played in PL. Respect to him to be transparent. We as fans should also understand, it is a job to a lot of players. If we received 5x salary, we would definitely go for it in our profession.
Only just started the video, but I sure hope you mention the fencing incident after Ospina wiped him out. That changed everything.
Can't blame him for looking after his family tho would love to have seen him stay eith us what a player 🤌
Damn! I forgot about this man!
He was really fun to watch.
I just searched for him, its odd that he still is at Shanghai (that are at least 2 contract extensions since 2016), i would have assummed he earned his money and did go back to Brasil.
I know i would have.
Oscar did the right thing 👏🏿 👏🏿 top flight football isn't always promised tomorrow.. get that bag at a lower level and be great
One year at Chelsea on the contract he was on and you’re set for life financially
@@Ooth9999 true but I think they was paying more in China? Plus even if he fell off he would still get guaranteed games in china.
@@richfranklin9270 Correct, he did smart move and thought beyond himself.
@@Ooth9999Oscar made the smart decision nothing wrong with that. We Romanize sports but at the end of the day its still a job, if someone offered you x4 your wages to do a easier job you'd be a fool to at least not consider it; Sometimes its better to make the smart choice instead of the heart's choice.
@@amadhatter3280 exactly 💯
Solid video on a decent person. Never knew about Oscar's motivations to go to, and stay in, the CSL.
For the record, Oscar is still getting paid an absolute premium salary on a contract that was signed shortly before China added their strict import salary caps. In addition, he was close to a deal with Barcelona but it fell through. He's not just there out of a desire to raise up the local league or his love of living in Shanghai (though he and his family do).
He was honest about why he wanted to go. All Chelsea fans know that, and we don't hate him for it. He came from a poor background in Brazil and wanted to provide for his family.
i respect his mentality ❤ but i still want to see him at the top before he retires
Honesty ! How refreshing !
He made the right decision. Looking forward to have him join here in Bahia.
Forreal gave me goosebumps when he was at Chelsea, reminded me so much of a Kaká regen 😢
Short version= went to china.
Even shorter version=China
Shortest version= ch
Its like Tifo read my mind, I was about to search "what happened to Oscar" a week back and here they made the video.
I miss the what’s happening to “football clubs” or inform players series. Bring it back!! Please
I watched Oscar play in Shanghai this year, we thrashed our city rivals 5 - 0. Still a phenomenal playmaker.
If going back to Europe is possible then I don’t see any big premier league clubs make a move for him other than smaller clubs like Brighton or west ham. At his age and years of playing low level football he seems more suited for serie a or la liga.
Big fan bro 🎉❤❤
I know it’s small sample size but saw Brazil live couple times at Olympics 2012 and Oscar was by far best player in Brazil team over Neymar - but when joined Chelsea didn’t reach those levels
As a Chelsea fan I never held anything against him for moving. I respect his decision to move for money and provide for his family. Yeah I wish he had stayed in Europe but it is what it is. I remember Mourinho chose Oscar over Mata which in retrospect mightve been the wrong move, but at least we did win a title with him. With the current Saudi controversy, its much easier to respect players who are just up front about the money and their motives.
He's earned the best part if £200M since going there. He wouldn't have earned that in Europe. Hes still playing football and its easy. Makes sense to me
No he wouldn’t have, he was on a downward slide at Chelsea
Still a great channel, but recently the videos have just been summaries of athletic articles :(
I read this exact article yesterday
Confesso q não esperava ver Tite, Paulinho, Renato Augusto E VITOR PEREIRA nesse vídeo
Always remember that goal he scored against Juventus
I miss him playing in Europe. Hope he'll come back😢😢
😂😂
Gavinoh is Ivorian, he's from Ivory Coast and he played for Ivory Coast, do your research very well .
Its good that he help the family🙂👍
How have you made this a 6 min video but missed the main reason he left Europe. His wife Ludy is Chinese, their first child was born and there was an option to move to China and raise their family while earning 24m a year.
And now the CSL has fallen back to pretty much the same level it was at in 2010, most of the money has disappeared and the stadiums are near empty again. All the players rushing to Saudi should really have taken notes, I've already heard a few reports of players not receiving wages (Lewis Grabban being the most recent and notable example). Its amazing how fickle football is across the board.
I will never get over my 2nd favourite footballer of all time leaving my favourite club 💙🔥😖
Wasn't this a video a few months ago?
This story has been covered a couple of times, on CZcams and Guardian. It does seem that he went out there for a brief smash and grab pay cheque, but ended up being stranded there for far longer than he anticipated. His constant commentary about joining a big European club is delusional though, and he needs to accept that. Then again, I can imagine a team like Man Utd getting him last minute to warm the bench.
I can't see him returning to Top Flight european football simply because of the pace of the game in comparison to China. Not also rubbing shoulders with his Brazilian Teammates will also limit to having the edge you require. I can see him at a team like Olympiacos for e.g
I can't see him playing in the Brazilian League either, most of the players that came from China flopped there (Hulk being the outlier)
i can see him going to a newly promoted team in the prem
I know players but get criticised about picking money over football but fair enough to him, at the end of the day we all want to make money and he also went out of the spotlight, making a lot without the attention on him.
It's hard to be too critical when he's still there several years later. And really it's no different to any of the mercenarys currently taking the Saudi coin.
this guy is dominating the csl and having a great time here. i hope he stays in shanghai post retirement.
Couple of good seasons back in Europe and he could still top it off with Saudi money if he's lucky. Smart worker good luck to him
My confusion is that even playing in Europe you get that balance. I appreciate and understand why he did it, but you don't have to throw away your whole career. The money in Europe is very good and always will be. There's plenty of money to be made in Europe to support your family whilst also progressing your career. Granted it won't match china's salary but the top leagues to pay well whilst also maintaining that level of prestige. Balance 🤔
I feel like I have seen a few videos about "what happened to Oscar" recently 🤔.
i will never forget the gif of the guy with the money that was in every comment after he left he sold his soul for money
The Special Moan turned him from a silky magician into a Brazilian Gallagher. Asked him to just focus on running around and pressing opposition defenders.
Always liked Oscar, I wanted him to stay but I really can't blame him for the decision he made. I'd love to see him return to a top club and do well, even better if he returns to Chelsea.
professional football player is a job , money is the most important of all in most jobs
As someone who grew up poor, I understand him perfectly. How many players sacrificed everything and still got nothing to show for in the end? Ups for thinking about family first
while I'm realize that this is just anecdotal info, I'd always heard that Oscar was a bit of a grouch...
Sources?
What happened to TIFO current football coverage? It's just the football history channel now.
A video on LAVEZZI would be juicy rn.
A legend ❤
168 million he would earn in total by November 2024. You have to say he's had a brilliant career especially if he returns to Europe.
Loved him on fifa
Did he not score the winner this weekend against Newcastle?
N how tf he no in brasil squad from 14 considering he's been consistent u can literally day that abt 0 players that moved to China for big money csn tell he a genuine guy. N would love him to get a 4 year contract wae us COYG another Carzola still Amazing from 32 to 36 38
Nothing happened to Oscar, he’s doing what he loves and getting paid ridiculously well for it
It's sad he didn't play for Brazil again after 7:1 and that tournament but I think he did the right thing.
As much as you respect when a player values legacy over financial gain, you have to respect ones understanding that they came from nothing, that careers can disappear with one bad injury or moment and they have to cash in while they still can. A lot of us say wed have stayed in Europe, but were not the ones presented with 24 million dollar cheques infront of us. The best players have the luxury of getting paid while still getting to play at top clubs, but most cant make that choice and have to make decisions that benefit and solidify them financially first. As much as I hate the Saudi League buying players for prices other clubs just wont compete with, but if they want to throw insane prices around, I dont blame the players for cashing in. Its more the league and the model that feels wrong.
What he was too short sighted to see is that making a move to china decreases your legacy and worth as a player which reduces opportunities after retirement.
Man made a sensible decision and went to get the money in order to provide for his family.
I respect that.
What about Fellaini too
Blues legend forever
this man has made almost 200 million... IDK why people are feeling sorry for him in the comments
It doesn’t matter how many brazil caps he gets or money he makes or the prestige of his club. Is he happy in china? If yes what a fantastic career move.
He is coming for internacional Poa in 2025 to win out third libertadores title
So altogether Oscar would've earnt closer to 200million euros during his Chinese stay. Fair play. Man got that bank.
more money for „easier“ work. who wouldn’t?