Clone Kings… or Clowns?
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- I love that so many companies are trying to make classic circuits in new ways to make them affordable to any level of engineer... But I ask you (and them)... have some of the dominant gear manufacturers created an environment where more emphasis is placed on LOOKING like the real thing, rather than being the best, most bang for buck "clone" it can be? Are they really just selling props as much as legit audio tools? I'm not taking a definitive position here, because the answer is both yes and no. It's complicated, and I still say a world where you can get a decent 1176 knock off for $250 or a solid 47 inspired tube mic for $500 is awesome, even if nerds and cheeseballs get rich doing it.
(Despite the admittedly click bait-y title... I'm glad Warm is around and mean no disrespect to Warm Audio or this episode's cover star Colt Capperrune! With the title of this video I'm really asking... Maybe I'm not their target customer?)
Watch Colt's Warm 44 vid here:
• NEW Warm Audio WA-44 i...
I HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH ANY MANUFACTURER, RETAILER, OR OTHERWISE. I'm just an old guy who's been buying gear and recording music for... oh... 35 years... from bedrooms and garages and automobiles... to world famous studios with iconic engineers.
You are sooo right about the gear disappearing from the name guys pretending to use Warm gear. I am one of them. I was sent a Warm 47 mic to make a demo video on. I told the handlers if they sold the mic for $400 and didn’t try to sell it as a U47 clone then it would be a good value to their customers. But the fact that they were selling it for $900 as a 47 clone was a rip off and I wasn’t going to make the video.
@@nicefish10 I love this. Thanks for sharing. I’m really starting to believe we’re on the cusp of a change in this ah… method of operation for these companies. Kicking and screaming we’re gonna drag them into offering more value. !!
Thanks for the view and the commentary!!!
Marty
I learned the hard way when I was younger by buying a basement full of crappy guitars that I could’ve just saved my money for a couple really nice guitars….so that’s what I did when I got my first full time job. When I started my hybrid set up and decided I wanted to commit to slowly building a professional grade project studio over time, I settled on the mantra “Buy it nice don’t buy it twice” (with obvious exceptions in this context 😅). Now that I’m a bit further along in the journey, though still a relative novice to hardware in the big picture, I am really REALLY glad I did not fill my racks with entry level gear (which was a temptation). I think what he is getting at is that warm audio and other entry level clone manufacturers are sort of preying on a vulnerable and easy to exploit natural human tendency to want to fill their studio racks with a bunch of crap😂. The cheapest piece of gear in my rack is an SSL six channel strip. And now I don’t even use that because my API’s blow it out of the water. You don’t have to spend $1 billion to create a super professional grade set up. You can still supplement with very high-quality pieces of gear from companies like Audioscape, Heritage audio, Stam or more. But at the end of the day, the best thing you could do is put a couple 512s or 1073s in your 500 series rack and grab a Distressor (or 4) and call it a day lol. Otherwise, why not just use the best plug-ins because in my experience so far, the top plug-ins essentially beat entry-level analog gear. But if the best someone can do is warm and they want their fingers on some knobs I really see nothing wrong with that and if it sounds good, it is good. But I have never use their gear and I am already pretty strong on the philosophy of go big or go home when it comes to hardware, so I don’t think I will be anytime soon…
For reference, I’m not trying to talk down on anybody or any products and in fact, the SSL six is great. I was just saying the more expensive and famous microphone pre destroyed it…shocker lol. My point is beginners who specifically don’t want to spend a lot of money should not be trying to get into hardware anyway. That’s why I find manufacturers like warm audio to be kind of insidious because it’s basically the hardware version of “you NEED this plug-in because it sounds just like the real thing man”. No, The real thing sounds like the real thing. YOUR thing just LOOKS like it…. And if a UAD plug-in can come close enough that the average person will never be able to tell the difference, then why would I buy a warm audio compressor for $1000? You could at least get an audioscape and get great value relative to the difference in price
I agree with you 100%. Buy it once. Buy it right.
How many components are the same in the WARM pultec clone vs the original? Zero. The 1073? Zero. The 1176? Zero. The 44? Zero. Not a single original component in any of it. How can they even call this stuff clones?
Because we’ve adjusted as customers what we will accept, even want.
Make it look like one and tell us it is… that’s what we want”. ..
Personally idc they sound great and are great for the price. At the end of the day they sound great. Period
@@angelbeast8863 fair enough.
Would you buy them if they were ugly and cost 2/3 of the cost?
Would you buy one with a more accurate circuit but ugly cosmetics for the same price?
Sincerely interested in where people are at on this.
Thanks for watching and the comment!
-Marty
Any alternative brand you recommend?
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD if they sound good, they can look like crap and we would be buying it. Warm audio does really good sounding products and that's the reason of their success.
I really like the warm 251...it performed better then my c414xl2 mic through my rnd 511 mic pre.
@@astrangeandmysteriouspodca7168 that’s good to know. I’ll have to find one to try out. Thanks for the view and the comment! -Marty
Old gear you find in unlikely places is so much more interesting to chase than clones. The best clones are the ones you get as kits and build, I think. Just cuz doing that is fun.
Dude… I’m back on the “I’m just going to buy another Venice and be done” train.
Thank you for this video. This stuff is nuts. New gear comes out everyday. No one has the ability to hear the real thing. No point of reference. Just wishful thinking and hype. Clown gear for clown customers sadly. And it’s a double edged sword that also helps sell plug ins cause these products help close the gap down the middle between the real thing and plug ins… they just don’t make the parts the way they use to down to the circuit boards themselves.
Sure there is diminishing returns but you either have it or you don’t.
I know MXL microphones that sound and built better then things mentioned in this video.
Consumers are gonna consume.
@@BlueHouseSoundStudio thanks so much for watching, and the great comment! -Marty
Warm Audio makes great gear you haters probably haven't even used the equipment.
Did you watch the video though?
What do you think about the main point of the video? (Which wasn’t about hating warm!). -Marty
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD I own the WA-87 R2 and WA-67 which are identical in sound to the originals but don't look exactly identical. I would have preferred that they did as I personally want a sonic and visual match. I still bought them though. Warm also has preamps that are completely their own like the tone beast and the WA12 (API clone with it's own look), I bought the API (WA-412) and Neve (WA73-EQ) clones myself that look and sound just like the originals.
@@jesserios7333 quick question: so you’ve compared in person your warm to a real 67?
Secondly, would you pay less for the same circuit in a mic that didn’t look like the original? Or pay more for the look?
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD I haven't personally compared but Masterclaes on you tube has (2) vintage U67's and shot them out and they are identical in sound. Check out his video. Like I stated previously the Warm one doesn't look identical and I still bought it but would prefer it to look identical...
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD I have not compared in person but there is a you tube video (Masterclaes) where the guy shoots out (2) of his vintage U67's vs the Warm one and his conclusion (with sound samples) is that they are identical. You should check it out. Like I previously stated I would prefer that the Warm one looked identical.
Good video! This is true. U87w2 nothing like a real one. Wa273eq is a joke. Get a real neve and compare the DI. The api knock off hass bass issues. I cant use the wa stuff. The u87r2 is an okay mic by itself. Just not close to real one.
Any alternative or “clone” brand you recommend?
I don’t NOT recommend Warm to be clear… I’m just saying there are manufacturers not spending $ on cosmetics and passing that savings on… and also to be clear, I’m not against making gear that uses classic cosmetics.
I just think it’d be smart for a company like Warm to offer a line of basic mics with their same circuitry… THAT would probably be as big or bigger of a hit?
I am glad for most gear. There’s only a few pieces of gear in my life I’ve used and been like “nope, get this out of my sight!” Ha.
(That’s an interesting list I’m not ready to share yet though!).
If you look at my racks, I’ve got a few different levels and “schools of thought” clones… replicas… versions of… takes on… and I am pretty dang happy… I love the journey of getting new stuff, getting excited and inspired and occasionally bored or “over” something… so there is a lot of turnover from time to time.
Ok I’ve stalled enough.. my official answer is:
All of it. If you see a deal, buy it. Flip it if it’s not your thing. If you don’t have seller’s remorse over something like that, are you really even a true gear nerd?! Haha
How about you? Any brands you really recommend?
(Seriously, I think I will do a vid focus on pieces/brands I think do it right?! Thanks for the idea!)
Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD Hi. I’ve some demos of Igs. Don’t have any, but they are very well builded and sound very good. Cheers!
Stam Audio, or Audioscape.
its affordable and useful gear aimed at home recorders and semi pro studios. people want it to look like vintage gear just like people still like strats and les pauls and old amps but get an epiphone or a squier. I mean the BAE, heritage, avedis stuff looks pretty neve too...
Yep. It’s not THAT it looks like real stuff… it’s that the mentality of the customer is that they will pay more for it to “look” more authentic, rather than buy something that IS more authentic on the inside and the same or less money.
That’s messed up. And it’s not Warm’s fault. It’s you and me.
We do that to ourselves.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I honestly don’t think it’s aimed at any semi pro studios at all. Even the semi pro users know the difference and that having the best quality gear and the real gear matters to how seriously they are taken in the industry. If you’re just recording, hip-hop, vocals, Or your own music in the basement studio, then buy all the cheap shit you want. But if you want to be taken seriously by top people with real budgets and real money, you have to have the real gear. Semi pro guys can start to see this whereas the amateur can’t and all they want is the cheapest gear they can get. That’s where a large part of my customer base comes from; The semi pro guy that’s trying to build a reputation and wants to use real gear. I probably book 15 sessions a month with various independent engineers who are trying to make a name for themselves and getting away from their cheap gear, so they come in to use my real gear. If you want to be taken seriously, buy the real shit. If all you care about is impressing yourself or other idiots that don’t know any better by the cheap crap, but if you focus on cheap you’ll stay right where you are.
On the whole, I'm much more interested in new circuits that haven't existed before, or are, at least, some new take on a previous design. It's part of the reason i like the ART Pro stuff. Or companies like Cranbourn. Or Lewitt.
Mic manufacturers are arguably the worst offenders. Nearly every LDC on the market is either a 47 style clone, a 67 style clone, or a C 12 style clone.
That said, I own a Warm 47 jr. It's a fantastic mic for the price. As long as you know what you're getting in advance, and dont expect to sound like the fucking Beatles jr. it can be a useful, cost-effective addition to your mic locker.
I didn't buy it because it said 47 on it, though. I bought it because it was in my price range, and I liked it marginally better than the other handful of mics i tried out that day.
I like this guy, very critical🎯
Dudes got a Klark in the background, and a BLA.
Correct. Dude must not have watched the video.
The point is that Warm COULD make the same product without the cosmetics and sell them for a big price reduction, but don’t. Why? Because people PAY to have stuff that looks real.
Tell me about the gear that is the same quality of sound as KT without the cheesy fake look that costs less and I’d buy it. Wouldn’t you?
Do you want Warm’s sounds for less money? Or do you want to pay more for the look? Asking you directly.
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD Klark looks just like the EQP1A3 as does the 76 and the 2A so they’re selling on the looks. Aside from that they are cheaper as Behringer uses cheaper components. Warm uses top quality components, U.S.A. transformers, etc. it’s also marketing. Why not use the looks of the original if that’s the vibe they are giving off. I guess it’s to each their own. I enjoy their gear as well as the Lindell clones.
Yes, Warm could be unique but would it be as attractive? No. Heritage, BAE, Avedis. There are way too many to name that have resemblance to the original.
@@joshuagilbertdog Correct.
Everybody understands the differences between KT and Warm… it’s the similarities that are the point.
I have no problem with people building gear to look like classic gear. At all. Cool.
Warm stopped trying to stand out and innovate because it doesn’t pay.
Warm uses better components, Warm sounds different.
We agree on that right?
Right now you can go to Reverb and buy a Warm Eq for $500 used.
Right now you can go to Reverb and buy a KT-EQ for $200.
That’s 45% less than new for the warm.
That’s 33% less than new for the KT.
The Audioscape EQP is 10% less if you can find a used one.
The idea that Warm offers “incredible value” is just marketing. Straight up BS.
Doesn’t mean the Warm isn’t cool.
The POINT is that if Warm stuck the same circuit in a different box, they could charge less, and have even more market share.
Customers would benefit.
Warm would both make more profit, AND actually be a better bang for the buck.
I’m telling you. Warm needs to make a line of the same circuit in plain boxes for less money.
Somebody is going to soon.
At one point WARM did that.
And that folks, is the point.
I would much prefer if they clones had their own trade dress and didn't look like the original. I have a WA272 sitting under my BAE 1073 in my rack and the similarities make me refer to the Warm as the "Fake". My Patchbay is literally labeled "FAKE73". I think that Warm unit sounds fantastic, and I use it all the time, almost indiscriminately from the BAE but in my mind it is "Fake" because of the trade dress. If it looked like it's own thing I would just think, this is another cool preamp I have. But for people starting out in recording, they fall for that "Dress up" thing you talked about, and it sells units.
I had a really weird feeling upon seeing the WA44. The RCA 44 or AEA 44 has been a mic I've wanted for years. I actually borrowed one from AEA (they're local to me) in 2008 to try it out. It was an awesome mic that I ended up giving back to them without purchasing as the 2008 economic crash basically hit the week I had with it. It didn't seem like a good idea to spend the money at the time. In the months after that crash, I was seeing vintage ones for 1500 -1700-ish on ebay. I still didn't buy one. I'm aware that AEA has all their metal work done locally. Like Burl and some other made in USA audio companies in CA, they are paying higher wages and that makes their products expensive. Does the WA44 sound like the AEA or the original? I have no idea but if it does, I'm not sure how I feel about the nearly exact physical copy they've made. Wes Dooley bought all the tooling and materials from RCA to make their mics in the beginning. AEA makes a clone that really isn't a clone. Presently, an AEA 44 is not affordable to me. Even their no-frill version is way more expensive than the Warm version. If it sounds similar or close enough, I will be conflicted. I wish it wasn't such a good looking copy because I feel like it cheapens the icon of the real deal.
I’m not sure if you’re attempting sarcasm, but to be clear not a single time did I mention concern for cheapening the real thing. What I said was it’s weird people will pay for a company like Warm to make something look like the real thing, and then choose it over a piece that has better components and build quality, and costs the same or less.
Thats weird. It’s smart of Warm and others to do this.. and it frustrates me and many others to see companies focusing on cosmetics, selling totally innacurate/different/compromised circuits but calling the thing a “clone”.
AEA, Audioscape… they’re not doing this. They’re building significantly more accurate reproductions. Clones in the sense of the word that well… makes sense. They’re not dressed up to LOOk like the classic circuits. They ARE.
There’s a fairly clear and defined distinction made.
But as you brought it up, they also aren’t doing the “built overseas, inspected in the US” thing many companies do… and I have little problem
With that either. It works for lots of companies and helps get affordable gear into the hands of people who couldn’t afford it without a compromise like this.
A real question, sincerely asked:
How much less could Warm sell a 44 inspired mic for (and importantly NET the same profit margin) if it didn’t spend as much on making it prop-like in cosmetics? You or I don’t know that number but Warm does. You can safely bet the there is a savings and increase in ACTUAL value that could be passed along without Warm losing a single cent of profit. Win win.
So yeah. Appreciate you commenting. Would love to hear your view on this last thing here… if Warm can make it uglier, but more affordable, without losing any profit.. wouldn’t it be cool? If the marketplace spoke up and said “hey, can you do this? We will buy it if you do”… wouldn’t that be cool? Where is the negative?
-Marty
That’s my tldr.
And I can answer your last dilemma/question… I feel great about owning an Audioscape, and would love an AEA. It’s the quality inside that makes the cosmetics a joyous bonus. Lol
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD I think AEA is an example that's done exactly what you proposed in that last question. The N8 and many of their other large ribbon motor mics have more in common with the 44 than less but the body is much less elaborate. Those mics aren't even in the iconic category of the culture of music production but for those that know, they are fabulous. I think warm is definitely tuned into the "hear with your eyes" marketplace.
Accepting that an aea 44 isn't really practical from a price/use perspective for me, I now covet an R88. Although I know 2x N8 on a stereo bar is more practical.
I agree that warm investing in the physical appearance so heavily is a unique choice. So much cost going into a housing and case, and ultimately, shipping makes one wonder where they could have provided more component value in a less ambitious mic body. Cloud Microphones makes a neo modern looking 44 type mic that I've never heard. While a microphone body does impact the sound, there's nothing about that 44 shape that couldn't be accomplished in a less elaborate body.
I think on one hand, warm wants to sinserly tribute the 44, they also want to attract the "hear with your eyes" market. I haven't worked with any audioscape hardware but I walked by their namm booth this year and saw a rack full of relic'd faceplates and just felt like that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I think it's just a prop for namm but God forbid that become a thing.
@@lmrecorders yeah agree.
Are you talking about the Audioscape relic stuff? Yeah I’m at a loss there. Totally cheeseball, BUT… the distinction being it’s an option.. if that’s your thing, you pay extra for it. They don’t build a cosmetic cost into the base price
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD I didn't know they had a cosmetic relic option. Other than at namm, I've never seen it anywhere else and I've only seen Audioscape gear on youtube. For me, I don't mind when gear adopts a certain visual characteristic of it's inspiration origins if appropriate. It's a starting point of sorts if I'm in a new situation. It's not 100% effective but it helps. My Avedis MA5s have a neve-ish gain knob. That's okay with me. Some of my Brent Averill racked neve gear looks like it has higher quality 80's home stereo knobs but definitely sounds like a neve. The faceplate is the right color. In the end if it sounds great, it is great. Second for me is whether the controls feel good. I don't care too much about the look. I hate bright LEDs, especially in blue.
I don’t really know what to expect from gear manufacturers. Almost every piece out there is a clone or a ripped design from something else. Almost no one is making original from scratch designs. That being said the warm mics with a bit of tweaking can easily compete with all the boutique clones and nobody can make a 47 because the parts just aren’t attainable. The warm 67 with a Neumann capsule and NOS tube sounds incredible and prefer it to the Neumann 67 reissue. The warm 47 with some components swapped and beesneez capsule sounds every bit as good to my ear as the 4k Heiserman. To each there own
Yes! in a lot of ways it’s just a ridiculously cool time for gear…
What bugs me is the companies that trade on the idea you’re getting a true “clone” as in same circuit… but instead they give you a mic (or pre or whatever) that has more in common with the overall LOOk of the classic piece being cloned, but little in common in the actual circuit!
I sold my Warm 47jr and got a Heiserman Type 19… a bit more money but infinitely better mic… and a great example of a manufacturer trying to push ahead and make NEW classics… the Type 19 is a 47 capsule but in the form factor/size close to a 414… so designed to be easy to stick anywhere… not some big fet 47 shape/size/weight because they were worried about people needing that cosmetic association!!
Anyway, thanks for watching and commenting! Super appreciated! -Marty
Warm 4 Life...
8000g Is Fire... 🔥🔥🔥
Sweet. Would an 8000g that sounded just like yours, but didn’t LOOK like an 8000g… and cost 75% less be better than the one now?
Serious, sincere question. Is the mic as fire if it doesn’t look like a real one?
@SHUTUPANDRECORD the mic sounds amazing my friend, and I own several high dallor mics...
@@DeeLo256 yes. perfect! I have a sincere question that I’m having trouble getting anybody to answer…
You own the mic. It’s amazing. Not questioning this! That’s awesome. IF the mic didn’t look like an AEA, but sounded exactly the same… but cost 25% less than what you paid for yours… which one do you buy? The LOOK or the sound?
Serious question.
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD I would definitely buy the sound. No question.
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD I was real hesitant on this but... I pulled the trigger when I heard it.
People pass counterfeit money every day and It's getting made better and better everyday.
Making this click bait before the actual mic ships is crazy for me. I kept waiting for a shootout or something at the end but it just sounds like a bunch of hate. I mean, isn’t AEA the exact same thing? They were repairing the mics that weren’t in production then looked up one day and said hey “we have everything here to make the mic now let’s just do that” sounds like you are just a guy who could afford all the vintage gear who is trying to gate keep. It’s like you don’t want people to make the best sounding music they can afford to. WA making clones isn’t going to effect the music you make so why do you care what they do?
You didn’t watch the video did you?
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD you didn’t order the mic did you? Lol
@@KhrisRoyal so that’s a no eh?
The point of the video isn’t about the WA-44, it was just perfect example of the behavior of US. You and I, the public… the market.
You’re making my point well though… you brought up AEA but why? Are the circuits or the components of an AEA 44 compared to the WA-44 the same? No. Totally different mics. Both have 44 in the name and look similar so here we are.
I’m not being negative about the WA-44, not at all… what I’m simply pointing out is that Warm COULD have put this same circuit in a more economical body… same mic… but no cosmetic frills…. And charged a chunk less. Would that be cool? Hell yes.
But they don’t because people will pay more to have a mic that looks like AEA.
Ironically, AEA makes the 44CE where they do cut back on the cosmetics to a degree. So you get the same circuit in a more affordable package.
Thats what I’m saying Warm could do. You’d see a lot more of ThAT mic in studios that can afford to buy the premium, made in the USA AEA.
I’m not sure what offends you about talking about the marketplace being willing to pay for lesser quality if the package looks like a more expensive original. It’s not an attack on any company or person. It’s just the way it is.
Here’s an easy simple question asked directly. Sincerely…
If you could pay $1000 for the “clone” that LOOKS like the expensive original…
Or $1000 for more premium components and matching original specs… but in an ugly body…
Which one gets your $1000?
No wrong answers.
I’m just saying, Warm are genius and certainly driving the market. It’d be cool if they got back to their roots. Wouldn’t it? With the power and share they have now? What they could do for their customers!
The original title was classic 🤘
It’ll be back… I’ll change it right now. Thanks for the input. I enjoy making CZcams the algorithm annoyed with me.
Haha I just literally couldn’t remember exactly what the original title was..and I spent a ton of time getting it just right this afternoon! Sooooo I think my brain is melted from trying to get this video done today. It was a killer. I stress a bit because I don’t want to come off as just a negative hater. But…I’m so done with just sitting around letting stuff that’s driving me crazy slide. Might as well have a public opinion.
Warm is a joke. Buuuut…. Their market is definitely the home studio recording guy that cannot afford real gear. Once you use the real stuff companies like Warm and Behringer will just piss you off.
Im sick of clones...
Clones are fine.. heck clones date back to the early years of effects pedals and amps. My biggest issue with the Warm Audio guys is that they step too close on the line between clone and ripoff. The branding just puts it over the line for me. People who don't understand the money that goes into R&D don't understand the true value of things. I still treat things on a case by case basics and am willing to let some things slide but when an innovator doesn't have the marketing or gets undercut by a fly-by-night clone king it hurts my soul.
Amen. That’s kind of the root of my frustration. I appreciate that warm is putting some cool stuff into the hands of people who otherwise haven’t had access to it before… BUT, it’s a lot of times very questionable to call it “clone” in the sense an old
guy like me understands. People new to the pro audio world end up buying lesser gear because Warm/Sweetwater have such a hold and influence on the market. And idealistic lil’ guys make crazy great gear nobody hears or benefits from. Thanks for watching and commenting! Very awesome to hear your point of view and insight! -Marty
Warm gear is awsome. I have a bunch of their compressors and they rule.
Thanks for the comment! What’s your opinion about paying less for pieces without the cosmetic copy stuff?
They only rule because it’s what you could afford. Go buy some real stuff and then come talk to me. If you could afford real gear and you’re serious about doing this you would have and you would notice the difference in every element from billed to sonic quality.
I think people need to watch Jim Lill and stop being completely empty headed.
Dude. He’s the best.
You mad because you bought all the real gear huh? 😂😂😂😂
Well, my racks are full of lots of cheap, ugly stuff…. Haha. So I’m generally in a good mood, what makes me “mad” is when young/new engineers get convinced to pay for looks over guts. All gear is real gear though. It’s the arm that swings the hammer.
But it’s not mad so much as just frustrated for them. My studio is what it looks like when you started seriously buying cheap gear and trying to get “pro” results in 1991.
Thanks for watching and the comment!
-Marty
Guys with the real gear are super mad that in todays market what they own could be worth now 5 to 20 times what they paid. 🌚
Please take your own advice. Please shut up and record. Please. This is a rant that goes absolutely no where.
Thanks for the comment and criticism. It’s certainly not lost on me the irony of making an op-Ed vid.
I’m interested, do you feel the situation I described isn’t a thing? Or is it just not something that matters to you?
Do you own any “cloned” gear?
I’m sincerely interested in your point of view.
Thanks!
Marty
Warm Audio is disgusting. I know no good studios with WA gear. Replicas? Yes. Audioscape, Telefunken,.... but no Warm Audio. Americans used to complain about Chinese copies...
It has been my experience, that most studios that start with a warm piece, grow out of it soon after and end up with something like Audioscape.. the differences in quality at all levels is palpable, along with the fact it’s made by the people who sell it directly to you… made in the USA, with original circuits not “inspired by” marketing bs. AND it looks awesome too.
I do wish Audioscape would offer the circuits in plain boxes for even more savings! I’d be all
Over that. But as it is… truly stuff you can keep for an entire career. That holds its value.
I hate to be negative about any company I really do, but when I talk about people understanding “where warm fits value-wise”… it’s this. Just not a good investment.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Much appreciated.
-Marty
Hmmmm, I agreed with the message in the video. But the comments just pushed it down the hill. Disgusting! Really?
@@lassestorgaardjacobsen US companies where once innovative, but Warm Audio is a cheap Chinese copy shop. Imagine this kind of copy from a Chinese company 20 years ago. I expect more from a US company. Is it harder to be innovative? Of course. To copy is cheap money.
I could name you more than 10 honest and innovative Ribbon-Mic companies. Why buy the Behringer of Studio Hardware?
@@lassestorgaardjacobsen I’m finding that people have strong opinions about Warm. I hoped to clarify up front through both the description of the video, and my own comments that I’m coming from a place of sincerity, and ultimately am hoping a positive change for consumers could spring if enough of the “clone” buying public relates and agrees!
I have no problems with Warm itself… I’m bemused and disappointed the market is what it is… but I don’t blame businesses for doing what they feel they have to do. Thats a lot of where my frustrations grew out of… that companies that don’t choose to adhere to the look of a classic piece of gear are sacrificing sales… it’s a real thing.
Thanks for the view and especially for taking the time to comment.
-Marty
@@SHUTUPANDRECORD Agree. 🙂