Xiaomi M365 / PRO / PRO2 / 1S / 3 any voltage hot swappable extra battery
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- 50+ km range can be easily achieved without drilling and soldering. I will show you the installation process in detail and you will be surprised how quick and easy it is.
This video is still relevant in 2024. Don't be confused that there are no new videos at the channel: the thing is I am super-busy with manufacturing and really have no time to make movies. But I release all new stuff in my blog at e-scooters.embedden.com:
Custom extended internal battery -
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Double your Xiaomi scooter range for $100 -
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Newest 15s 44A BMS for Xiaomi and Ninebot - e-scooters.embedden.com/blog/...
Choosing the best e-scooter and upgrading it - e-scooters.embedden.com/blog/...
Free DIY upgrades for your electric scooter - e-scooters.embedden.com/blog/...
More information - at my website e-scooters.embedden.com/
A short text version for people who prefer reading rather than watching videos:
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I also invite you to join my telegram group related to Xiaomi M365, PRO and 1S electric scooters:
t.me/m365_custom_electronics_en
Feel free to ask your questions!
Links to the equipment I used:
Complete all-in-one kit to boost your Xiaomi e-scooter range (10s battery + Rita + bag) - e-scooters.embedden.com/shop/...
Complete all-in-one pack to boost your Xiaomi e-scooter range and speed (10s battery + Rita + bag + 12s charger) - e-scooters.embedden.com/shop/...
"Rita" adapter - e-scooters.embedden.com/shop/...
Mounted bag - e-scooters.embedden.com/shop/...
External battery 10s4p 13800mAh - e-scooters.embedden.com/shop/...
External battery 12s3p 10350mAh - e-scooters.embedden.com/shop/...
12s(50.4V) 2A charger - e-scooters.embedden.com/shop/...
Detailed Rita adapter user manual with all it's features explanation:
public.embedden.com/Rita/Docs/...
Link to the original charger upgrade tutorial:
• Xiaomi mijia m365 char...
Firmware builder for PRO, PRO2, 1S, Essential, 3:
play.google.com/store/apps/de...
Thanks for watching!
Thank you Tony Stark
Still laughing
And laughing of you, moderates team, haha
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This video gave me insight not only about the battery but also about how electricity works!
Same thing
Perfect
What a very informative video. It not just about m365 battery modding, but a lesson in electric and electronics 👍🏽👍🏽
I randomly arrived here, enjoyed every minute of it. Congratulations u found a Fan!
This just won the Best M365 Mod prize!!!! 🍻🍻🍻
I know Im randomly asking but does someone know a tool to get back into an instagram account??
I was dumb lost my login password. I would love any assistance you can offer me.
@Lucian Grayson I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and im in the hacking process atm.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Lucian Grayson it did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D
Thank you so much, you really help me out!
@Jadiel Spencer glad I could help :)
Awesome engineer and good teacher. And the animations are both clear and funny!
Wow. So much clarity and detail at the same time. Very informative indeed..👍👍
Very nice explanation. Even with subtitles! You have my respect!
Thank you!
This was brilliant. Thank you so much for the effort you put into this.
Pretty awesome that it can charge both batteries from the same charger!
My rita arrived today, i ran a external 10Ah battery empty, and then swapped to another full 10ah battery.
With the internal battery that was 72 kilometers range(44 miles), i got 17% remaining, not the best batteries i used.
This took 4 hours lol
I now have as much range as I can carry batteries😁Thank you Denis 👍
Thank you
Wohl im Unterricht nicht aufgepasst...
Thank you soooo much for such great video and information... cant wait to try it out.
Privet Denis.
Your channel is the most underrated channel I have seen on youtube lately. I will make a post and refer all of my viewers so they can see this video. Because this upgrade is the single most needed upgrade for the Xiaomi M365. Love it.
I am in love with Rita and I am already ordering one :)
I also have a "spare" 52V battery laying around... Was wondering if it will burn something out, or can I safely use it with Rita?
The video was not too long at all. It was very well made, well edited, clear and interesting! Looking forwards for the next video! Keep up the good work, thank you!
P.S. I was very happy with your custom BMS for the M365.
Thank you! I was really impressed when I see that you made a video about my BMS =) What do you mean as 52V? Is it nominal voltage? What a strange value?
Denis Yurev I should say 14s battery :)
@@VRMinde please, read this public.embedden.com/Rita/Docs/English/rita_manual_latest_en.pdf
Denis Yurev So if I would charge the cells only up to 4v I would have 56V pack. Theoretically, even the stock controller should survive?
@@VRMinde No, you must not use it with original controller. But if you modify it and cut the jumper at Rita, than you can use your battery
That is a very smart thing. I will do this modd even with a 10s battery. looks good and feels more safe. I will buy this Rita soon. Thanks
Kudos, nice product and excellent video, no I did not get bored I truly enjoyed watching that.
Edit: never mind, found all the answers on your site, great stuff.
I am definitely up for internal battery upgrade video.
Keep up the good work.
Ok, thank you =)
This was so AWESOME Bro /salivating
Great info, very well explained.
I am just about to start moving a hiboy max and your info is pretty helpful. Thank you
* modifying
Very good video @Denis Yurev! Thank you!
You are welcome
This video is awsome. Denis, your a genius! Thank you for this great information.
Thanks!
So with the little research ive done, RITA just compares the 2 voltages, the higher voltage pack is switched on until its lower than the other pack, that even solves the regen current.
what a great video, very clear and nicely edited
great job i wish i had those electronic abilities
Very informative, double thumbs up
'Rita likes big voltages and long ranges'. Giggity
🔥🔥🔥
THIS PERSON IS ONE FROM THE MILION
ur the best Denis Yurev! i want to try this on a segway g30 max!
Thanks, I will add ninebot support a bit later
Well done !!!
Amazing im gonna save up and get this💯🤝
Hello it also works with kugoo s1 , I did it on my channel...
Wow, good work mate !! Very nice video - T👌P
Your a true wizard .. thanks these mods have help me a lot .
Dude, you are freaking insane. 😍
this deserves a like and a follow!
thank you for making me subscribe to your youtube channel
Zajebiscie Wszystko wyjasnione :) Dzieki
Thanks) Dzenkue bardzo! =)
Witam! Można o kontakt ? Instalował Pan rite u siebie ?
Hi I bought a Segway Ninebot ES2 and a month later bought the Ninebot Extra external battery making the scooter a ES4. It increases the power, range and speed. I’m having lots of problems with the 2 batteries unbalancing, when I get to my destination the external battery usual has more power left than the internal. Another thing that happens is when I start my trip the scooter does the normal fast speed but when one of the power bars on the display starts blinking the scooter slows down to the speed without the extra battery, like a ES2. Also there is 4 power leds on the external battery to check the power. All 4 leds blink a lot when I run my scooter full power. Iv taken the scooter back to where I bought it from several times and it’s still under guarantee. I noticed on the internet that it’s a common problem with this model.
Now i need this for G30D ^^
Thanks! Bol'shoye spasiba !
I have my now 1 year and i am very impressed about it!!
Wow, nice! I am very grateful to my first customers who believed in me when the product was not yet known =)
@@DenisYurev I bought in july 2020, did you found any way to see your battery percentage normal? Because if you brake the battery goes quick to 100 and if you accelerate the battery goes down
Genius Mod, very good explained
Thanks)
Wow!! Very good explanation about electricity. You should become a teacher
I have been a teacher for 2 years)) We built mad robots with teenagers)) And I really love this, hope to start teaching again later
Hi Denis. Danke für dein Video, hat mir sehr geholfen und sehr viel Information einfach super.
You are welcome!
GENIUS
I want to get a pickle and a fine bottle of vodka to toast you for such an excellent video. Great knowledge.
Now that's cool!
Dude you’re a genius
Hi Do you think the Xiaomi Essential could be upgraded by replacing the front motor wheel with one from a M365?
This is very edifying
Bravo explanation
Awesome video and very well explained. But will this work on any other electronic controllers/ "ebikes" or its mainly built for this scooter.
AWESOME IDEA.
It would be epic if you can make Rita work on a Ninebot MAX G30D! I would instantly buy it!
Legend
Greate Video ! i have just ordered a KIT stand by for Review :)
can't wait)
Thank you for a great video
Denis Yurev,..
You are thee guy!!!
Heyy dude, really nice Video :3
Does the dingus work with any xiaomi scooter or is it just the m365?
Thanks if u answer, I'm looking forward to buy one
Hi, it works with any Xiaomi e-scooter and with Ninebot Max G30
@@DenisYurev nice thank u (: really good explaining of the matter in ur vid
Beyond cool!!!
Excellent video thanks
You are welcome!
Hi, fantastic product it looks like and easy to use. Just one question before I order one, if using the 10s all in one kit, I assume the normal capacity display on the scooter (Pro) will still work correctly? And it will reflect the combined capacity? I mean of course I realize that the detailed Ah numbers will be wrong etc, but the percentage is based off voltage right? So if it shows 80% it will mean that both batteries are around 80% left?
Hi!
Sorry for the late reply, I have to solder a lot))
You can read about charge level indication in the user manul:
public.embedden.com/Rita/Docs/English/rita_manual_latest_en.pdf
You are absolutely a genius! Where could i find the battery and the rita adapter?
Thanks! m365.embedden.com
This RITA shot up in price!
@Denis Yurev - Amazing video. Thank you. I do have one question: How would the Rita adaptor work if the external battery I connect has a BMS of its own? I have a spare M365 Pro battery that I was hoping I could use as an external battery for when I need it on long trips. Thank you!
Hello! Rita is designed to be used with a common port BMS equipped external battery, which means just one couple of wires sticking out of the battery for both charging and discharging. Original Xiaomi battery is equipped with a different type of BMS - separate port, with a dedicated charging port. Using this type of batteries with Rita as an external is not safe, since separate port BMSes are not able to control charging process via the discharge port.
@@DenisYurev Thanks, important information! ❤
@@DenisYurev So is it ok to use Rita with original battery(separate charging port) and external battery with common port?
Nice explanations, you have my appreciation. You will tell me what is the maximum voltage accepted by the original BMS ?.
If you mean "Original ESC" - up to 51V
Hello, i have xplay pro ( similar to the xiaomi 365 ) iwant to add an extra battery in to it , but I'm afraid that happens problem or battery explod, i saw that hoverboard battery is suitable to it too , is there any video explaining how to add it? And how to add button to change the use/ charge from the original to external battery. Thank you
Very nice video
I was wondering how it was possible to connect 2 different batteries in parallel, this explains it perfectly. I do have one question: When charging, the weaker battery will charge faster, does this device stop current going to the charged battery, while continuing to charge the stronger battery? I'm specially interested in using an original Xiaomi PRO2 battery, original firmware and original charger, while adding an external battery.
yes, the lower voltage battery will be charged first and stop being charged, while another one will continue charging
It’s no problem to ship to Canada, just the Rita?
And a quick question, as I have 48v 13ah scooter. When choosing a battery for external battery pack, would a 10A continuous max discharge rate (Panasonic battery cell) 13s3p for 500wx2 dual motor scooter be good enough to use? Or, should I be looking at higher CDR battery cell?
Rita may be shipped to Canada.
I can not give you any advice about your scooter, because I work with Xiaomi scooters only
Danis, you are a hero. I have a couple of questions. Can you use the regular 10s battery and increase the speed of the scooter by removing the speed limit in firmware? (and what are the firmware paramiters you recomend? I have the pro version). Second question: With a 12s battery will the speed increase even without custom firmware? I thought the scooter will not go more than 25km/h. Third question: When using the external battery will it increase the charging time exponentially? I guess it will take something like 12hours to charge both batteries.
>I guess it will take something like 12hours to charge both batteries.
Yes
>With a 12s battery will the speed increase even without custom firmware? I thought the scooter will not go more than 25km/h
It will beep an error without a custom firmware. You must flash it to use 12s.
>Can you use the regular 10s battery and increase the speed of the scooter by removing the speed limit in firmware?
Yes, you can increase it a bit. Check this link: m365pro.scooterhacking.org
I can not require any parameters. You must find out this by yourself, otherwise do not change the firmware.
Hi. Very interesting project. I see you only connect the external battery with xt connector so how the cells are balancing when charging with the original charger? Keep up the good work!
exernal batteries are equipped with a BMS, which balances cells
Congratulations on the video my brother, professional explanation! I have a question, I have a pro 2, which plug should come with the battery? I'm changing the main battery for a 13s3p 21700 48v but I'm not sure which plugs should come, help me please? thank you so much
Very informative video Denis. Forgive me for a stupid question. Does increasing the voltage also increases the power to the motor? I mean can I get my scooter climb hills with a higher voltage battery?
Hi! Yes, it feels more powerful at hills.
@@DenisYurev thanks. That means it's worth trying
Wow
You really know your stuff! Bravo and thanks for the lesson! Very good video
I am new to scooter. I want to buy one “all round “ for my family… maybe from xiaomi..? Do you recommend one that maybe in the future I can upgrade?
Since I’m Sweden we are restricted to 25kmph I would like to be able to limit the speed.
Hi! Thanks, I would say Xiaomi PRO2 is the best choice in 2021.
Excellent video Dennis, thank you it was very informative. I would like to know if the Rita can be used for a second battery on a ebike too and also is the Rita similar to the Datex2 d2/d3 device?
Hi! I did a google search, but did not find a "Datex2 d2" or "Datex2 d3" device. So I am not able to compare it with Rita)
At this moment Rita supports Xiaomi e-scooter only, Ninebot e-scooters support is upcoming. I don't have plans to implement ebikes support. But you can try to use something like this aliexpress.com/item/1005003001301142.html if your ebike does not use a regenerative braking
@@DenisYurev Thank you so much for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it. I will try and find out more details on the Datex2 device and share it with you, could be of interest.
@@DenisYurev Hello Dennis, the Datex2 device is a parallel battery adaptor, l saw a video on CZcams about it.
This is a great vid but my head is spinning a bit being not a technical person. If I get an exact replacement from manufacturer of the original battery, can I hook them up in parallel with a Y splitter? Or will the regenerative braking cause problems still? Have a Hiboy S2 Pro (basically M365 Pro). As long as you don't use the e-brake when both are fully charged, it should be fine, right?
Hi, there are no problems with regenerative braking at all when using the y-cable, because the original battery never gets "closed" for the charging current via its discharge output.
In short, you may use any 10s(36V) battery via the y-cable, but keep in mind it will be charged via its discharging port, so a common port BMS equipped batteries are required, because they are able to manage charging process via its charge+discharge output, while separate port BMS are not able to interrupt charging in case of overvoltage or disbalance, so must be used carefully.
i dont own a scooter, nor do i plan to mod a battery somewhere, yet i'm here enhoying this lesson in physics.
Thanks)
Quick question Denis,
I ordered a 10S4P 36Voltage 20mah battery how much do
I overvoltage the battery to for the custom firmware?
Awesome video btw!
Hi, no voltage changes in the firmware are required for a 10s4p battery
Hey, nice work.
Can you help me with my question?
The internal battery is protected by the BMS.
Has Rita some kind of fuse or overcurrent protection for the external battery?
I am planing to buy the complete kit with the standard voltage batteries for the Xiaomi Mi Pro 2.
Hi! Rita has internal 2*20A fuses at each power input.
Hello friend, good work made by you! This works for m365 essential?
Hello, yes!
Hey man. This is really amazing :D It's a shame that those scooters has a smart BMS on the battery. If the smart BMS was in the controller instead everything would be much easier since the scooter wont run without those data cables from the BMS to the controller, right ? :) not every battery packs got that smart BMS with data cables so you cant just exchange the original battery to another one without that data cables. :P
Yes, smart BMS has some disadvantages)
Hope you notice me and thank you for your very informative video. If i use RITA with my 10s2p external battery, do i still need to flash a firmware to disable thr charging mode on my xiaomi scooter 3, or RITA will do the job disabling the charging mode on my scooter? Because my firmware can't be changed due to DRV VERSION SPOOFING:555. I really wanted to put some extra battery for my mi scooter 3 but it won't let me disable charging mode and it's really frustrating. I emailed you hope you can help me. Thank you.
Hi Denis I have a question before i start install the 44,4 voltage battery and the rita adapter so do i need to the Firmware upgrade?
Regards,
Mohmmed
Hello, yes. you have to install a custom firmware to avoid error 24 when using a custom higher voltage battery.
@@DenisYurev A last question if i do a firmware upgrade can be a virus come on my phone?
Regards,
Mohmmed
hello! firstly thanks for that great detailed video. I got a question to you. my m365 pro has another software which can provide 32km/h. With your speed and range rita kit can add extra speed for my m365 pro?
Hi! 12s kit will grant you +20% speed
Do I need to buy a different charger for ninebot as well?
Hey Denis, i have one question for you as you are an expert:
Can i have two batteries, one original and one additional but use them separately? I was thinking of making an extension cord from the internal battery outside so i can unplug it when it gets depleted and plug an external one so there would be only one battery connected at the same time.
Forinstance: i go for a drive - original battery gets empty - i unplug the original one and plug the additional one - i continue driving.
In this case there would be only one battery connected and never two of them at the same time.
Can this be done?
Many thanks!
Hi!
Sure, it's easy.
Just manage the switching by plugs or switches.
And you have to flash a custom firmware which makes it possible to use a battery without data lines. Google XiaoDash and ScooterHacking
Hi, many thanks Denis!
This second person one from thousend showong something
THANKS.
This Russian Ironman really rocks. That's engeneering!
wow im stunned , did you create RiTA?? u a genius
im gonna buy one in your website, by any chance you have a discount code ? heheh
thanks in advance
u the best
Hi! Thank you. Unfortunately I don't provide any discount codes at this moment)
Hi Denis, I need more torque as I have a virtually all uphill journey that I have to do about 3 times a week. Do you know if the original controller can support/run to motors simultaneously? Maybe by simply connecting the wires of both to the single connection points on controller. Is this possible & what modifications would be needed if any?
Many thks.
Steve
Hello, I did not understand your question
Unfortunately, you cannot connect 2 motors to one controller - the motors get into each other with the phase.
And even if that worked, both engines would share the power for one engine and would only have half the power.
I would also not try a second controller on the same battery. I don't know exactly what the controller draws ... maybe 30 amps? 2 controllers would pull twice and possibly the battery will burn.
There are already projects, look for "2wd m365" or "m365 awd" on youtube.
Hey there, this is so awesome! I am planning to get a mi essential scooter. Would this kit work with it?
Kind regards
Hi! Yes.
Great video, I am wonder does this setup work on a more powerful scooter that has 2 motors and minimotors eye controller? I have a spare battery so thinking of makin use of it and trying this if safe?
No, it's for Xiaomi-like scooters only. Maximum current is limited by 30A(~1500W)
@@DenisYurev ok thnkyou for reply..if I gave you the specs of scooter and the controller it uses to you think you could build 1 that would allow me to use 2 batteries at once?
Hey Denis, is there a Rita adapter for ninebot g30 max? This would be amazing to have on the ninebot scooter!!
Hi, I am working on it! Hope to finish by the end of the year)
Hi, loved your video and animations, i can see you really care, keep share the knowledge!
What if i plug only a non original xiaomi battery as main one? Is there a way to emulate bms? Also, how can i make the rear fender light work?
Thank you in advance, my best wishes
Hi!
Yes, you can emulate it, just flash a custom firmware such as XiaoDash or ScooterHacking and check the emulation option
Connect the rear light positive lead to the scooter controller pin which normally goes to the green wire of the original battery. Connect the rear light negative to the fat black power cable going from the battery to the scooter controller.
@@DenisYurev thank you so very much, man!
I really appreciate it
Hi Denis,
Thank you for the video and for creating Rita. I have a 1S scooter which is, from what I gather, almost identical to the 365. So I am guessing that Rita will work with it without a problem, correct? Also, do I understand correctly that I can connect 10s and 12s batteries no matter the capacity? The only thing to keep in mind with the 12s would be to modify the charger or get a new one, right? All 10s batteries, no matter the capacity, will charge with the stock charger through Rita without problems, right?
Thank you in advance,
Cheers Filippos
Yes, all is correct.
@@DenisYurev Perfect! I will be ordering Rita as soon as I have the money. Thanks for replying :)
Where can i order rita ??
Did you install the monorim v3 front suspension yet? wit X-lock and X-lock extender?
No) But there are a lot of geeks in my telegram group who did, you can ask there: t.me/m365_custom_electronics_en
Since you can swap batteries with higher votlages, would the Rita be able to handle a 48 volt original interal battery (54 volts when fully charged)? Peak power draw is around 27A with interal battery.
Yes, but please read the user manual carefully, because 13s batteries using requires a special Rita connecting
Hi Denis! respect for your hard work and deep knowledge on electronics. Just a couple questions: 1.If I want to add a 10s2p battery in paralel to the original one of my PRO2, with a Y cable would be enough (instead of Rita), right?. 2. If the battery capacity is not an issue, but the acceleration and max speed is, would the serial connection be more recommended? do you have any videos concerning this type of connection? Thanks!
Hi, you may add a 10s2p via an y-cable, Rita is not equired. Just rememeber that batteries voltages must be equal at the moment of paralleling. Serial connection would increase speed and accceleration, I don't have videos related to this mod, because I personally don't like it.
Very informative vlog! Where can I buy this device for my scooter?
Many thanks
m365.embedden.com
Do you ship rita to qatar?? I already have external battery. Thanks
Do i need to align the voltage before connecting the battery