Why Removable Batteries Are NEVER Coming Back
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Linus: We'll never get removeable batteries on things back.
E.U. : Allow us to introduce ourselves...
Yep, it didn't age well
By force not free market
@@BsBsBock Would you say integrated batteries were brought by the free market? Id still buy a removable battery phone if I had the option without massive performance concessions.
dude i saw that
@@BsBsBockand? that was never implied, it did come back didn't it?
Yeah I'll give up removable battery and headphone jack so they can make my phone as thin as possible so I can put a case on it to make it as thick as a book anyway.
Daniel VanDusen You can literally never use phones right now without a case anyway.
@@theorangeoof926 My Cat S41 would argue against that.. but then, he is a thick boy all on his own :P
They just NEED to be pampering the Uber rich folks who buy 5 of the same phone in different colors
Phone or so thin these days that one drop just breaks the screen. I lalways buy a case. Not having a removable battery means it just a throw away in a couple of years.
@@theorangeoof926 my s6 would like a word with u. never used a case
But what if some user don't care about thin phones, wireless charging, face detection and such shit?
I actually hate all of those other things so....let me remove and replace my battery.
@@3_up_moon My phone is 4 years old right now. So it still came with all the necessary things.
But I have to replace it soon. Are there any phones available that don't have these unnecessary features?
@@leventeacs6371 theres no existing one but ebay has some dude celling an 5 year old iphone unboxed working fine (hope you dont get scammed)
@@leventeacs6371 my Nokia 2.2 has a replaceable battery, headphone jack etc
My Pockets are wide enough and I don't care about few grams more and I'm going to put a big case on it anyway. I can't use my Phone will its Wireless Charging and I lose electricity. Wow I would save like 30 seconds a day if I had face detection not the forget that it's often not really secure. Give me Headphone jack's and removable Batterys(at least some that work for 3 Years Plus)
I like how having a thin phone is wanted more and more when in reality your just making it easier to snap your phone like a twig
And that the phones today are literally thin enough
Id say modern phones are the right thickness now since any thinner and it would be uncomfortable to hold
I don't know man, I use my phone as a weapon when my sister is ready to throw some hands.
I want swapping batteries thats so effizient
@@Joopyter724 yep my note 8 Is a bit uncomfortable for me to hold because its thin. To cope with it,I have a thick book case for this
Samsung: not thin enough until you can paper-cut finger with it xD
CIA hates it when you remove the battery
Just wrap in aluminium foil or just get sprint and have no reception 100% of the time
Yes, you cannot truely turn these phones off, not ever.
You can say that again
More like nsa they are the ones with embeded trackung to the core and bioses
@@todop Whatever three letter acronym agency it is, I don't want them to have the ability to spy on me like that. It doesn't matter whether they have the technical legal authority. The potential and ability is the only thing that's relevant.
Boy I miss that; Once in high-school during a trip my phone died and I needed to make a call home, so a friend who had the exact same phone mode simply lent me his battery for a bit. So simple.
You don't need to accept to be a slave of smartphones. For the price of a smartphone, you can have a really good tablet that can everything better than a smartphone, and a regular phone that is much more practical than a smartphone for calls. I never bought any smartphone in my entire life and I don't think I'll do that anytime soon. I mean my Nokia Asha 302 is still in perfect condition, as well as its (removable) battery that I didn't even need to replace after all of these years.
@@italixgaming915I understand that and I do use a cheap smartphone and invest in my computer, but even cheaper phones are going that way due to some design benefits. In my specific case I have had the need to access the internet via data plan on the road in a smartphone for work and use it as a hotspot. I'm not a slave more of a work user tho.
@@italixgaming915 but they dont make smartphones because of practicality so your argument is invalid. people want to take high quality photos or videos. is it more practical to have an old phone and a big ass camera? its either focusing on gaming or photography. and thats why they make them. ur argument is like a caveman arguing over modern houses because he is sayong a cave is more practical. because it is a sturdy shelter and they lived by using that.
I think you need like a backup phone that runs KaiOS. Some people even ran Minecraft on it lol
@@tomikun8057 how does that solve my issue?
Is a kaiOS phone cheap? My smartphone was like 60 bucks case I out my cause on my laptop and a good camera
Removable batteries are still here if you try hard enough
People really don't get the joke, don't they
So true
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Just like every machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough
I've learned the hard way that poor battery replacement destroyed my waterproof device from water splashes.
Oh wow, such bot, we dont give a fuck about these curtains, if there is a lot of noise, just close the windows
This aged like fine milk
The S5 has a removable back AND a headphone jack and ip67 waterproofing.
S5 god tier
thats how my s5 died. had half of it submerged for 2 seconds..
I was gonna say, My S5 (only 4yrs 1/2 yrs old from when it longed... so not that old) still had a removable battery.
I still have an S5.
S5 is great but the battery is weak
Tech quickie: Removable batteries are never coming back.
EU: hold my regulations.
regulation to force apple to a standard charger is kinda gay though
@paula they're still in
EU: Hold my insolvency.
@@rightfulfuture4 yes, I'm gay and I approve.
@paula noone cares about Britain. EU is going to force removable batteries.
This video didn't age well
luckily
It's intentional
it's called "Planned Obsolescence"
capitalism
"harder to waterproof"
Me: *stares angrily at gopros that are the most waterproof camera without the case and have a removable battery*
@bongo155 you don't really know how technology works. Do you.
@bongo155 I think that comment proves that you're clueless. So tell me. What's the difference in waterproofing between these 2 boxes that both have charging ports, both have touch screens. And the gopro that has many more buttons than the typical phone.
What's that? The chips inside of the tech and software installed on it has absolutely nothing to do with its waterproofing?
@bongo155 you really have no fucking clue lmao 😂 you just detailed guts like they have any bearing on waterproof.
Get the fuck out of here, window licker.
@bongo155 "The Snapdragon 855 has more cores, DAC, GPU, DSP, WiFI, GPS, 4g modem, RAM and ROM and storage.
" I do not think you understand, both components break if water gets on them. A chip isn't easier or harder to waterproof because of how many cores it has, that is silly. Nor do those other things impact it. If water touches your electrical bits, they break. Regardless of whether it was a supercomputer, or an actual toaster, waterproofing simply means designing it in a way that water wont get into those electrical bits, regardless of how much ram they have to protect them from the water, or whatever you think the ram does.
My 1970 Rolex is water proof (not water resistant) to 5,000 feet and I can change the battery. At that depth a sub would be crushed like a tin can. Argument lost! Dumb asses you just got schooled! Cell companies know the technology exists they are just scamming you!
i'd rather have a slightly thicker phone with a swappable battery. the main reason for replacing my last 2 phones was because the battery was getting to weak.
Exactly this.
Open up the phone and replace tha baterry. It isn't that hard, if you'r no confortable with that get someone to do it.
Right, exactly. Rather have a phone that has a removable battery then have to trade in my phone due to the battery going out on me. Unfortunately, I think it will eventually come to that point where partial factor of obsolescence to where people like us to end up having to end up with phones with non removable batteries. the partial factor of obsolescence is the fact of the idea of cell tower usage and coverage, and what generation of the cell towers the phone works off of.
@@FabioKastro Depends on the phone. I bought a moto g3 for my mother a couple of years ago. To get to the battery you need to go through the front of the phone - taking the screen off.
Also, it's not necessarily easy to find a supplier of a decent new or refurbished battery.
Completely agree. I actually have found most new phones too thin for a while now.
There is literally NO JUSTIFICATION for non-removable batteries in phones, except for corporate greed. Deal with it.
Any justifications made are ONLY false dichotomy. LEARN THE MEANING OF "FALSE DICHOTOMY" PEOPLE. THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE!
How about the fact that the companies offering removable battery option phones, even really competitively priced ones, are just not seeing great sales figures. Companies release slim non-removable battery phones and consumers flock to them, you can go on about "corporate greed" all you like but if you're actually in a high up sales position or investor in said company, it'd be hard to ignore the consumer demand.
@@G1NZOU youre basically saying its s loop - ouroboros.
I'm just gonna say I never remember a phone with a removable battery having decent waterproofing. They said they did but it's nearly impossible to get a removable back sealed well enough for good waterproofing.
@@themakerstoolbox9688
Nokia was indestructible
EU: *Hold my beer....*
Hopefully they pass a law to make the 3.5mm jack mandatory too lol
@@ticktockbamI'd fucking move in a heartbeat if this shit happens
@@listener8228
The EU made them do usb-c and I’m pretty sure that’s applying to every iPhone, not just ones in the EU. So if they brought back the jack, you wouldn’t have to move, could be wrong though.
@@ticktockbamAnd expandable storage with a memory card
*me just liking the removable batteries because when phone freezes i can stop it and then restart it *
@Mr. Khan only outdated smartphones..You know when the Company itself stop supporting it's android OS without any update.
@Mr. Khan I have
@Mr. Khan good idea but that's bad for business. It's the same reason why company removed the removable battery capacity so that owners have to be force to either replace the battery or buy a new phone instead. They are also living on that lie that you are forced to backup your files through online storage if ever something happens to your phone, the truth is those files and photos can be recovered in every broken phones.Those files just are lying dormant. They just don't people wanting to stick to their old phones when every year technology advances and newer phones are getting made and needed to be sold.
@Mr. Khan basically removable batteries are old and outdated also
@Mr. Khan my Smartphone has 4 Gigabytes of RAM
Samsung XCover Pro. Launched 2020.
* Removable battery. 4050mAh
* IP68 dust/water resistant (up to 1.5m for 35 mins)
* Drop-to-concrete resistance from up to 1.5 m
* MIL-STD-810G compliant
* 3.5mm jack
* 6.3 inch screen, 1080 x 2340 pixels
* Otherwise mid-rangeish specs.
It is a little bit more pricey(currently $399 unlocked on Amazon) than a similar specced non-rugged phone. Replacement parts available for a reasonable price.
Perfect when you need a phone as a tool rather than a trinket.
You should have said, unless good regulating bodies start doing their job. Because unless something drastic changes, the EU is going to pass a bill to force removal batteries.
Literally just watched Louis Rossmann's video on this. The Samsung Galaxy S5 was highly water resistant (unhelpful term, practically this meant waterproof) and very slim on top of having a removable battery!
I think it would be cool if Samsung made an updated S6 with a new processor but kept the same housing. The S6 is still very widely used which is partially because it is still "good enough" and is rugged compared to glass phones, which makes it a prime candidate as THE military or outdoors related phone for various peripherals and apps . Plus it's cheap now.
@@dogboy0912 Don't you mean the S7? The S7 was basically the S6 with a bigger battery.
@@yaltschuler idunno maybe probably lol
i now want a Samsung Galaxy S5
It was my previous phone before getting an iPhone 8
Wasn't the Galaxy S5 water resistant while having a headphone jack and a removable battery? I think the water resistant argument isn't really valid.
Galaxy S5 Active from atnt. The beat phone I've ever had
@buckets of rust He said it's more difficult, not impossible. Also you can achieve a better waterproof with sealed case.
Do tou have an S5? If yes, go dip it into water and tell us if it survives
@@azarilh2355 Boom bomb drop on linus's same argument with how much you have your phone bet me money you won't drop it once. A case protects your phone so since you need a case anyway get a water proof one and since phones don't have removable batteries you don't have to pry open your case to swap.
@@CYWNightmare
_«since phones don't have removable batteries you don't have to pry open your case to swap»_ Not true at all. If i need to swap batteries it's because the original one died, so i'll open the phone regardless if it's supposed to be opened or not.
You left out the fact that with non-removable batteries, the phone is never really off when you press the power button. So the tracking and monitoring of your activities by BIG TECH still continues even when you think it is off.
This.
Actually when you switch the phone off it is actually switched off
@@stephensnell1379 in your dreams
When you switch a Smartphone off it really is actually off,once the Smartphone is off the flow of Power from the Battery WILL STOP
@@stephensnell5707 Do you live in the same world we live in? Are you a retard?
The EU issued an order that batteries on consumer items have to be replaceable by the owner.
"Most users care more about having thin phones"
Where are these users?!?
Let me introduce you to the Apple fanbase.
We need to put them hydraulic press to see how they can function with those thin beautiful organs.
The same ones who think it's a good idea to text in a rain storm
I like thin phones and would give battery life over dimensions
@@seeibe i hate them
Phones with swappable batteries make less money overall because we tend to keep them longer. THATS the reason.
This is a primary reason why the apple fanboys line up like lemmings for a new phone every year. Hey, nothing wrong with the device...just the battery has degraded. Sad.
True. I have had mine for 3 years. I have no reason to replace a perfectly good working phone.
No.
It's so you can NEVER turn your phone off completely.
*even non removable batteries can be replaced by anyone that can turn a screwdriver. A battery you cannot take out, EASILY, means you cannot shut your phone off EASILY.
@@m4rvinmartian Good point. Hadnt thought of that.
There's also probably something like the battery powering the GPS chip before other parts of the phone. Think about it. We're all carrying sensors with location data, microphones and cameras in our pockets at all times. The potential to use these for spying on civilians is obvious, and you'd have to be unbelievably naive to not think that this is already happening all over the world.
Imagine all the things we gave up on for the sake of 'convinience'.
Not only convinience. But for "security", "high class" and "being better" just to name a few.
"Anyone that is willing to forego security for freedom, deserves neither"
@@SupraSav No dumbass ,it's the other way around. "Anyone willing to trade freedom for security ,deserves neither" Go back to school and stop doing so much drugs.
@@justwindflow4083 Why are you so angry? take some chill pills man!💊
@@aadarshroy3216 Thanks, I don't take pills, you have fun with your drugs, I prefer to live in the real world
Me who dropped my phone in a sink and texted in the rain multiple times and my phone is still alive.
I don't buy it. It's planned obsolescence plain and simple. The Samsung S5 had a removable battery and a headphone jack and the water resistance was great. It's just greed and waste.
I know, Louis Rossman pointed that out.
You don't have to buy it, Useless Duck. In fact, none of us is forced to buy anything. Enjoy your land-line.
I'm sure you feel you need to buy a new phone every other year or so, but you are not forced to buy any phone, which is my point. Also, Moore's Law is not a physical law, it's just a catchy description, and your claim of planned obsolescence is a lazy way to refuse to acknowledge the limits of any particular technology. It's not magic - it's physics.@@nugget6635
@@montex66 "You don't have to buy it". I'm sorry but that's a stupid attitude. Instead people should vote with their wallet and demand repairable phones and other devices from manufacturers. Should be no excuse for the planned obsolescence in today's world when we are consuming resources at such an alarming rate.
@@montex66 Yeah, don't judge me if I do :) - Seriously, if you have a home you should have a land-line IMHO :) (unless it's a tiny-house on wheels or a trailer or something)....better ping and all that, not to mention that there's no true flatrates for mobil-internet :( (at least not in Germany!)
Water proof taking away easy repairs.
Water proof removing battery swap.
>I KNOW WHAT TO BLAME.
What's the point in WaterProofing? It's a phone, why is it near water?
@@FabioKastro one word - rain
@@JGnLAU8OAWF6 I still own my G4 with removable battery and SD card slot and it deals with rain just fine lol.
@@JGnLAU8OAWF6 or coffee
thots who drop their phone in the pool. thots who you blame.
It's so you can never truly turn it off, never turn off the mic, the camera, the signal that tells nearby cell towers where you are, etc...
Put your phone into a metal case. Same effect.
Put your phone into the microwave and turn it on for 4 minutes. Problem solved
@@arshdeepsinghmalhi4554 what
Snowden in an interview has said when he working, he and his colleagues were given dumb phones with a removable battery. It's possible for a smartphone to "pretend" that it's off.
Put that phone in a metal container, done! No signal no data. Just like they give you a bag to put your EZpass in if you want to "Disable it from being READ"
A phone could also pretend to have a removable battery while it has an additional hidden non-removable one.
I literally watches that video 20 back on youtube and viola i have this on my feed. Google scares the shit out of me.
@@brujo_millonario True but my friend who works for the Foreign & Commonwealth Office was given a clean phone where the security department disassembled it and made absolutely sure there were no bugs in it before he received it. He's also not allowed to bring unauthorised electronics into his workplace compound, not even his smartwatch.
Actual secure organisations double check things.
@@brujo_millonario when a Smartphone is switched off it is actually OFF,no power will flow through the device once it is turned off
1:33 Samsung Galaxy S5, it has removable battery and it's water resistant. It also has a headphone jack.
It's just greed.
And it's slim with good battery, my S5 didn't last more than 7 months, I dropped it several times RIP
Wireless charging?
I've been using an S4 for three or four years now (I can't even remember anymore) I'm running out of RAM, my OS is way outdated, and I don't have enough storage space for more than a few apps at a time, and at this point I don't think upgrading to an S5 would work much better.
Soulless leftover! No it’s called innovation and adding wireless charging with a more quality feeling phone. Many people don’t like the feel of plastic on there phonr
@@NaveTVG To be honest, when do you ever use it? I don't and everyone I know doesn't. And even if it is vital, with all this innovation to get a 100% screen phone I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find a way to implement wireless charging alongside a removable battery.
With removable batteries, you can get another 4 years on your phone. It's all about planned obsolescence
Here with a 2016 J1, swapped battery last month, good as new for another two years
@@ChaosSwissroIl And accept shit tier code and to volunteer more data for them to sell. Fuck Google.
Just pay $50+ for a replacement instead of a new phone. A removable would be even cheaper to replace, sure. But besides the bulkiness forcing out other handy components, the bulky plastic case forces out more battery capacity. So with more battery capacity you could have longer battery life with the non-removable one. And honestly if you don't mind carrying a spare battery to make up for low life then you don't mind carrying a battery powered phone charger or a phone charging case.
That's how I extended my old phone longer before getting a new one, as its battery was starting to lose capacity. I almost replaced the battery and kept it 4 more years, but the new phone I was looking at had a much much longer lasting battery (even compared to my old phone brand new) and a much faster processor so I don't have to wait for anything to load. I ignored all the random features in each new model until I saw those two things. I don't see apps getting any more instant and more battery will probably be overkill, so next time around I probably will just replace the battery. And then in a decade-ish maybe there will be some other feature so insanely nice that I'll have to replace my phone.
I'm sure that in 4 years the new features of a new phone will be so overwhelming that people will upgrade. My wife's phone is 4 years old and works good but it's so out of date tech wise it's almost impossible for me to use. So sure for some people it's all that needed.
@@NewAgeDIY My Samsung S5 just got a new battery after 4 years. It's as good as new. All the apps still run, it's not outdated.
I remember the Galaxy S5 mini that I had, it was IP 67 rated and you could remove the back cover and remove the battery aswell. Best of both worlds, underrated phone.
LTT: Why Removable Batteries Are NEVER Coming Back
EU: Ha jokes on you. Wait till 2027.
I'm sorry Linus but I have to disagree. The Samsung S5 had a headphone Jack, expandable storage, removable batteries, water/dust resistance all together. The excuse that they can't water proof a phone with a removable battery is bull.
He said it's more difficult.. not that it can't be done.
I have never understood the big deal of having removable storage. Phone storage has become do big, I think most people don't need more storage.
@@agisler87 It isn't more difficult though. The S5 had a rubber grommet around the back plate, it's perfectly simple to waterproof a phone and keep the battery removable.
Your thoughts on expandable storage are completely irrelevant.
@@ajshdhenskaka But you don't know what it costs to put that rubber grommet in place in the assembly process? No one really knows, everyone's thoughts (including mine) are just speculation. Even if a manufacturer gave a reason I suspect people wouldn't even believe it.
My comment on external storage is relevant since removing it is one less spot that needs waterproofing and many people complain about not having this port. Yet as my comment stated the increased internal storage capacity is suitable for the majority of consumers.
@@agisler87 Video takes a lot of space, especially 4K video. If you want to store your media locally, internal storage is going to get full sooner or later.
Even raw photography takes a lot of space, if you are a more serious shooter.
@@agisler87 you dont need more storage
I would prefer a removable battery over something like facial recognition.
rattle 99 agreed 110%
I'm watching this on a S5 and you're absolutely correct.
Fingerprint scan is more secure than facial recognition in my opinion.
Something I'd actually use over something I never use. What's wrong with a lock code?
@@TVperson1 nothing wrong with it my dude.. but i think fingerprint scanner makes you unlock your phone faster
My LG V20 is super thin, lightweight and water resistant, has a headphone jack (with high end DAC) and an integrated IR blaster. And, the battery is user replaceable with the push of a button. It shouldn't be that big of a challenge in 2023.
The EU has just voted to make removable batteries compulsory
Well that won't happen anytime soon so all future Smartphones will ALWAYS have batteries glued to the inside of the device itself
Also,Removable Batteries just make a Smartphone TOO BULKY AND UNAPPEALING
@@stephensnell5707 Too bulky? While phones have become thinner, they have gotten wider and taller, making them more bulky than before.
Not to mention the fact that they are so fragile now that a case is pretty much mandatory, which completely defeats the point of them being thinner.
I'm ditching phone manufacturers who drop the 3.5mm headphone jack and removable micro SD card. HTC, apple.
And now Samsung with the note 9. I'm a Samsung fan from the start but I'm really not happy with this decision. LG is now the only main one left I think with the headphone Jack.
Me too, I’ve got a galaxy s9 at the moment and plan on upgrading to the s10 next year, but it looks like it will be my last Samsung.
You’re going to be disappointed when everyone follows Apple... Because it’s only inevitable, every smartphone company will take advantage of forcing customers to buy Bluetooth tech eventually.
you can easily replace the headphone jack with usb c. (its just another connector, you can still use it as an headphone jack) and sd cards are weird, because you have 2 things to save on? its just better for me to have 1 big drive.
You mean Note 10?
"...harder to waterproof..."
Samsung Galaxy S5: "Am I a joke to you?"
one of the best phones ive ever had.. watching on my s7
Currently on S5 Neo. Do not want to change the phone.
I'm still using my Moto E4
Lol I DID just comment same but
T:Removble batteries are never coming back
Samsung Galaxy xCover PRO: am I joke to you?
I have a Note 3. Still works great.
The consumers: We want our phones as slim and lightweight as humanly possible!
Also the consumers: attach a three inch thick external battery pack that weighs four and a half pounds.
might as well we attach a 6 inch thicc chunk of rubber to it as a case to prevent it from breaking when it falls a foot to the floor
Correction
The Tech Reviewer and Marketing Department: We want our phones as slim and lightweight as humanly possible!
The real consumers: thanks, now I have to attach a three in thick external battery pack that weighs four and a half pounds because you didn't want to have an extra 16th inch on the base device.
"consumer want thinner phones"
me looking at my Cat s42 which is nearlly as thick as an old nokia
No one cares about 2oz of extra weight, you bastards just kept trimming witbout even thinking about it
Funny how this video popped up in my feed right when the EU is passing a law requiring device makers make batteries easily replacable.
The other thing is Samsung and at least one other company made phones with replacable batteries that also had high water resistance.
Linus should stay away from predicting the future.
Battery dead = buy new phone = more money.
Capitalism is a great system, isn't it?
That's how mafia works
Wait for apple's new phone - they're taking away the charging port this time.
@@sushakya_ I'd love to see what kind of trash phone the government would give you as a result of socialism. But you're right, you go ahead and use a phone produced by socialism. I'll use one produced by capitalism. I wonder which one will be better 🤔
@@thedoc77777 Indeed... As a guy who is from a preveous socialist country, I can tell you how this is going to go down :D . You will probably be able to get a - RED STAR ONE Nokia 3310 knockoff in 2019, wait arround 1 - 2 years to be delivered and be the talk of the town for having one at all :D ... As anyone in Bulgaria will tell you that was the way with ordering a car (Lada), before 1989. Also you will have a G network connection - not 1,2,3 or 4G :D just a G - who're you going to connect to :D the party leader comrade ... because who are we kidding you're way too busy to work your ass off so the lazy bastard down the street has the same ammount of wealth you have - aaaa breath it in... fairness and justice..
I think customers want more robust phones with removable batteries, and it's the bloggers and reviewers who have obsessed over thinness and fancy materials at the expense of battery life and fragility. The bloggers and reviewers are the least likely to keep a phone for long enough to care that their super shiny phone's finish is wearing badly or the battery has lost 20 percent capacity in a year.
I think you may be on to something.
@Rumpel Felt Even 6-months doesn't really get you to feel the pain of the battery loss. When a phone is 2-3 years old, it usually works just fine with the sole exception of a terrible battery life, and that's a frustrating reason to buy a new phone when it could just be a $30 replacement. These reviewers aren't even aware of that.
My old phone that I bought in 2015 is still functional to this day. All it needed was a battery replacement. It came with Android lollipop and now my mum uses it for WhatsApp and Facebook. If it were an apple phone they'd have probably slowed it down on purpose to force me to buy a new phone. Corporates are such scumbags.
Oh yeah, I can do the whole "...battery has lost 20 percent capacity in a year"
I don't think you understand what I mean, I don't use the phone a lot. My battery doesn't run out every hour or so.
@@DantesInferno96 Here I'm using Mi4 from 2014, everything is fine except the battery. On full brighness it just drops from 100 to 0 percent in 90 minutes. And takes 4 hours to charge. Unibody sucks!
That video aged like fine milk
1:55 yeah, since removing battery while it gets dried is the ONLY way to 100% save your drowned phone.
Well these days you won't be able to remove the battery anymore if you end up getting it wet
@@stephensnell1379 That is exactly my point.
Imagine a car that you can't service easily because its hood is welded together
That would indeed suck, but then cars are a lot more expensive and have a required service schedule. Phones will likely last years without ever needing to be torn open. Big difference. I do hate the enclosed batteries too, but this comparison is very hyperbolic.
Imagine a car with it's engine under a panel behind the seats, and that panel is held shut with 4 bolts. It's called the Tata Nano! They only occasionally catch on fire for no apparent reason.
The BMW i8 (i think) is sealed shut, and only serviceable by dealer..
Fair enough point.
@@buddyclem7328 that's not actually correct but well
Samsung: Removes headphone jack
Me: You have become the very thing you swore to destroy
yeah they also remove charging brick now
@Reda Basic S21 series
@@arnavbule Those super highend models are really bad to buy immediately. Better to buy it a year later, 2nd hand
@@tomikun8057 Agreed.
Always buy the second-last generation iPhone .
Next step, they remove the display and implant you on a neuralink, link. Ha ha
This aged like milk...
also if you can remove the battery then you can stop the phone from broadcasting your location to the nearest cell tower and nobody wants that. phones without removable batteries are tracking devices
10 years? Didn't the s5 have a removable battery
It does, has water resistance, and a headphone jack. The USB cover is annoying as crap and it's not "pretty". That's about all that's wrong with it design-wise. If it were USB-C, the cover probably wouldn't even be an issue.
I still have my s5. I'm using the moto e4 plus though.
Yes
Yea, also own an S5, I call BS on this, interesting thought, they make them thinner and thinner and just about everyone places them in a relatively thick case 🙁
the V20 has a removeable battery. Got mine in 2016.
"Because of corporate greed" is always the answer, one way or another...
Nah, if you think that you're clearly just some idiot stoner hippie apparently.
@@thomassowellaudiobooks6441 Uh, no it isn't? Corporate greed is what is destroying the planet, planned obsolency makes us waste the planet's diminishing resources quicker and quicker, instead of researching for ways to make phones more durable they research the opposite so we have to buy new models every 1/2 years
How is this "advancement"?
@@thomassowellaudiobooks6441 Corporate greed is not the only thing that can cause technological advancement. There are people in this world that still care for others, and those people also help create new technology. If everyone only cared for themselves, then we also wouldn't have all of this stuff we have now, as the corporations would keep it all to themselves.
@@thomassowellaudiobooks6441 How would they have the knowledge to create this technology if other people didn't share it with them?
@@thomassowellaudiobooks6441 Well, I can see you're not seeing my point here, so this discussion is kinda pointless :p
"They needed to be harder to allow for easier insertion"
Boy I know that feeling
Sounds like a "feature"
LMAO!!!
Thanks for the smile.
This video did not aged well. Now, EU is forcing the manufacturers to use removable batteries for smartphones.
If you can't remove the battery, you can't completely turn off the phone. Leaving that back door unlocked.....
Another conspiracy, turning off phone does turn it off completely, the only thing that removing battery does is get the device to lose time and date settings.
These aren't clock radios from the 80s. Phones constantly receive time and date info from the network. Disconnecting the battery has nothing to do with this.
@@herbderbler1585 only if you're connected to the internet
Dark ah, so your phone is on when you remove the battery?
@ Yes it is, but what does that have to do with anything?
The truth is at 00:55
It's all about corporate greed and planned obsolescence
Nobody's asking for billions of charge cycles all we're asking for is a solid 3000 charge cycles
Mike Rilling thank you for not wasting all the 5 minutes there
@@blackhole28 Still would be better if you watch it, as it explains the reason more.
Sync
nope, I am good
@@blackhole28 it's actually 6 minutes
Joshua Langwell I mean 5 minutes 59 seconds and a half
little did he know...
This might not age well after what the EU did.
I remember dropping my phone and having the battery fly out.
me too. its so weird how battery decides to yeet itself out like..
phone: *drops*
battery: 'ight imma head out
same
@@waiitwhaat yup
still happens to me lmfao
Same, I dropped my old phone like a hundred times and it's still working (mostly) fine after almost a decade. It was fully plastic but at least it didn't break.
"SH1T MANUFACTURERS SAY!" should be the name of this vid...
biela88 Louis Rossman said that the removable battery thing is BS too.
Yeah, saying that people care more about thinness and novelty features like facial recognition than a battery you can replace WHEN the original gives up the ghost sounds like the company trying to convince themselves of these opinions. How much longer until manufacturers tell us that they can't replace batteries or allow others to because they can only be sealed correctly at the factory..."Feel free to buy a new one though, that'll be 900 bucks."
Look at the S5 for example.
Dumbass hispter he just just explained why it went away
@@thewillows2733 S5 was "waterproof" and even that is generous considering how many times the cheap flimsy back failed and let water in
Fairphone: Hold my beer
Roughly 10 years?
I'm sure it's been only 5 years since I saw phones with replaceable batteries.
Greaaaat. Another feature removed. The excuse again is water resistance and size.
While poorly worded, lack of innovative design is as legitimate of a reason as any to discredit these big names; Ironic considering we as consumers rely on them, placing the responsibility (but not necessarily obligation) for a solution(s) squarely on their executive shoulders. I would wager a design for waterproofing and modular ability is more simple than they make it seem given the tentative exploration with smartphone peripherals. Perhaps they'd like to charge an unrealistic premium for such a device but opt not to in order to see what their competition will do? The premium is already through the roof though...I wonder whether it's justified though... would be nice if they were more transparent with their manufacturing and business practice... most companies rarely are.
And yet, ironically, despite paying quite a bit for 2nd-tier models, I've never owned a waterproof phone. These people are just bad liars.
I used to love removable battery but do not care for them anymore cause I actually prefer the metal casing now. Also, i prefer to keep portable rechargeable battery now since i can use it for more than just charging my phone. Also, instead of having to carry a removable battery everywhere, its better to carry a portable charger that has many more uses.
Louis Rossmann has a great point about the battery and jack that have been removed for no reason (if you wander the video main look at is the Energizer P18K but he hints at the last flagship that was IP 67 and had a Headphone jack and a removable battery namely the Samsung Galaxy S5 ) czcams.com/video/HAEzXznhZ5I/video.html
Suggestion: Why does the entire industry follow when apple makes stupid decisions that infuriate consumers?
Yeah, if I wanted a phone that's like an iPhone, I'd just buy an iPhone.
Apple phone: 2000 USD, equivalent to maybe 0.5 to 1.5 years of work in parts of the world
Other brand phone with similar features to an iPhone : 250 USD, much more accessible, hence companies would just make that and just sell to 8x more people.
ask those crappy companies
This is why CZcams.com/watch?v=vUqb_iGD88A&t=1s
because the entire industry is made of sheep.
If EU will pass the law to require removable batteries, this video won't age like fine wine.
You cant even swap a SIM card anymore
They too are going extinct
I'd still prefer removable batteries over thinnes.
The LG G5 was just as thin as the Google Pixel and had a removable battery. The Galaxy S5 was waterproof, had a removable battery and was just barely thicker (8.1mm (.32 in) vs 7.8mm (.31 in)) then the current Galaxy S20. Models like the LG G5 were even thinner at 7.7mm and the bottom of the phone popped off and the battery was replaceable. They can do it, they choose not to because they profit by doing so. Batteries have a shelf life and the average person does not charge their Lithium Ion battery and lets it die constantly, this destroys the life of the battery which can last upwards of 2500-3500 charges when done optimally, but be as low or lower then 300 when constantly drained. They know this and it helps push more phones, like a lot more phones. We saw great examples of this with the updates to slow phones down. They claim it was to "improve battery life" and it is conventionally kind of true, but we all know it was just another step of their plan planned obsolesce. Otherwise companies like Apple and Samsung would have told us about the updates. They only made excuses later once caught.
They keep making phones thinner yet they seem to not get any better. The batteries get smaller too. Stop making them so freaking thin! I don't even like them that thin.
@@Bound4Earth I loved my G5! I've since had a G6 and now a G7 and had so many issues with them. I'm tempted to purchase a G5 again..
Me too
Every tech reviewer that reviewed the S5 complained about it's back cover feeling "cheap." I think a large part of the reason why these trends have happened is because tech reviewers see a glass back and say "WOW, this device feels so PREMIUM!" Phone manufactures read those reviews and design their phones around what the reviewers talk about the most. The reviewers do not understand what 90% of consumers want. They are merely looking for a phone to "wow" them so that they can say positive things about them, and they don't evaluate them for long-term use.
2:53
Oh Hell no!
No headphones, no sale!!
Agreed. I don't need wireless charging, but I do need a freaking headphone jack.
CZcams algorithm seems to have a sense of humor after all...
The EU just made smartphone removable batteries mandatory by 2027.
I would gladly buy a phone a few milimeters thicker to have a removable battery. My favorite phone is the still the galaxy note four. I have a note 9 and now carry a power bank for travel and for long work days. Huge performance difference but if my note 9 had a replaceable it would be perfect. Now I get to spend $200 to have the battery replaced when it can no longer perform.
If you're spening $200 to have it replaced, you're paying too much.
My only phone is still a Note 3 and although I like the hardware upgrades, I can't bring myself to drop a grand on a new phone that removes features that I want in favor of features that I don't care about.
Honestly I would be happy with a non-removable battery if it was substantially bigger, like 5000-6000 mah batteries.
Totino's Pizza Rolls same here
Xperia ZR had a removable battery and was also water resistant
One thing I really loved about removable batteries is that I could power down my phone instantly if it's misbehaving.
Bruh same here
There's a thing called a hard restart. If you hold down the volume down and power buttons (both android and iphone), it'll force your device to restart by cutting the power from the battery briefly.
@@wx39 yeah but it doesnt feel as efficient as a proper disassemble restart lol, not to mention if the battery is slightly displaced nothing can be done about it nowadays other than paying a hell of money in service centres.
@@GMPranav fr
@@wx39 Most people know to do that from time to time anyway, but this won't work if you have problems with your phone recognizing your volume or start buttons and/or screen touches. Most phones I have had with problems are in this category.
I will only buy phones with headphone jacks until I can trust myself to not loose earphones (the wires make them so much easier to find and use imo, so when I pop them out they can hang from my neckline)
So pretty much headphone jacks will always be a checkbox (picked up a Samsung M31 a few weeks ago)
Also, theres no reason waterproofing and replacement batteries can't be a thing together. Its been done before.
It's been a few years since your video has been put out so it needs to be updated. The EU is now trying to mandate removable batteries in cellphones. Additionally; as an electrical engineer, it's not that hard to make cellphones with removable batteries to be waterproof.
"The hardness allows for easier insertion...."
Yes Linus.....yes
Wow lmao
LinusSexTips
force of removal and reinsertion
@@vistastructions czcams.com/video/Xpx_KmGZ6TU/video.html
IM DEAD😂😂😂😂
Because removable batteries make it harder for built in obsolescence.
Oh boohoo I made my product so good that you won't ever buy anything more from us! We may need to get into the pharmaceutical industry because people will pay no matter whatr
*Apple Healthcare invented*
Samsung XCover Pro have removable battery! It is waterproof, dust
resistant, weather resistant rugged and have headphone jack. Looks
better than most phone out there. Instant charging is finally back!
@@nsevv I looked it up after you mentioned it, that things a beast!
Edit: solid buttons SOLID BUTTONS
@Sylvershade, Shade Of Tides, exactly right!!!!
correct.
it's just pure corporate greed. There's a myriad of phones that use plastic instead of glass/metal, yet they don't have a removable battery. Phones that are not designed to be waterproof are numberless, yet a vast majority do not have a removable battery.
I've had a mobile phone for over 20 years, never had water issues, "water proofing the phone" is just to force you to replace a perfectly good phone sooner......built in obsolescence and you can still get new phones with removable batteries it's just not as easy :(
NSA hates it when you remove the battery.
No data can go to or come out of the phone when the batteries gone, doesn't matter if it can bounce a signal still they won't find you with it like its radar. No useful back end telemetry for anyone.
@Jay Blake they all are
@Bob Bobbertson asshole
People appear to forget pretty quick that only 3-5 years ago phones had removable batteries AND water resistance, not all them were made of plastic either, so you'd think now that we're paying over $1000 for flagships these days a manufacturer could easily justify any added cost in implementing this and other niche features... Nah, that's clearly asking for too much and I should just pay another $200 for next years phone, not to mention a lot of budget devices do still include some of these features depending where you look and yet flagships can't implement them because "reasons".
*Techquickie:* Why Removable Batteries Are NEVER Coming Back
*European Union:* Watch as I destroy this man's whole career
I was searching for a comment like that
I don't know if they'll ever act on it though. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see removable batteries again, but I'll only believe it when I see it.
video: "Why removable batteries are NEVER coming back"
Microsoft: *laughs in AA Xbox controllers*
removable
I just wish there were flagship options for people who want a removable battery. I miss going from 0% to 100% in 20 seconds.
*Yes* *I* *totally* *agree* and I think smartphones are simply *too* *thin* these days, I wish I could buy a Samsung or Apple flagship/halo phone that was 2x thicker and allowed me to hot-swap modular battery packs or even enhance battery life over the included default battery pack by inserting a newer modular replacement pack rated for more Amp-hours.
@@JeremyGalloway No, I just carry an external battery, or two, because well, they die
@@JeremyGalloway I did. They're not big. And you can get a small protective case for your battery. It's better than running out of power, or carrying around an external charger and cable (which will take at least an hour and 15 to charge the phone. I would go from 0% to 100% in 20 seconds. You don't understand that sort of convenience until you experience it.
The man speaks the truth none of the phones features are convenient if the phones is dead. Just saying fuck all this fancy tech if it can't do something simple like change a battery :/
@@JeremyGalloway I did, it was epic.
Planned obsolescence isn't a conspiracy, it's actually very well understood.
Why?
@@CUADRADITOSS components want $$$$
Conspiracy doesn't immediately mean it's stupid and baseless. It IS a conspiracy and it IS happening.
@Apollox44 Pollo wow someone with common since
@Apollox44 Pollo lol ok
100 years later
"why phones wont be in a box anymore"
phones literally wrapped in leaves because companies are "going green"
If removable batteries are coming back that has to be one of the things that makes me proud to be in EU... I wish we had removable GDPR and cookie warnings too..
Now they should also include SD card in the future
Watching on my S5 WITH replacable battery!
You forgot to mention, thin and light with a headphone jack, IR blaster and with all that still IP67.
@@portedbikes But one big downside: Battery life 😭😭 (Yes i replaced the original, didnt fix)
@@JulianDaniel2003 sadly battery replacements can be tricky on old phones, since Samsung do not manufacture those batteries anymore, you can't go wrong with Anker, important to check manufacturing date, over 10 months old is not good. Lithium batteries lose 10% capacity a year while not in use. I got lucky with my note 4 battery, found a batch of super fresh original batteries last year, and my phone works like new all over again. No chinese knock offs, no extended slim BS either, those are garbage. Get it on eBay, test it and if does not work properly, seller will have to pay for shipping back, so it is a free test for you. Just a hint... $5 to 10 are all garbage, $15 and up you get a better chance.
Gonna keep my S5 as long as possible.
It's going to be sad having to go to a new phone because in some ways we have regressed since then.
@@portedbikes 😍 I forgot about that IR blaster. I wish phones were still good like the S5
Tbh I didn't even had the thought of a having two battries and swapping them for unlimited charging (while one of them is charging)
... I need a time machine, I NEED TO TELL THIS TO PAST ME!
Perfect when traveling and taking pictures. I carry a spare ($20) in my pocket.
I did it with my LG for years. When my phone died I switched batteries and plugged my other battery in. I never had to put my phone down to charge it
3 batteries are more optimal. 1 battery in your phone, 1 backup battery full charged, and 1 charging in a dock somewhere. Then just swap between the 3 based on usage.
Thats why im sticking with my lgv20. I can outlast newer phones with super duper fast charger or whatever gimmick they call. Lets say the fastest phone can charge full 100% at 20mins. I can just swap my battery and have 100% in LESS THAN A MINUTE.
The LG V20 is the best phone ive ever used.
I kinda wonder if the removable battery also made it easier to completely power it down (including GPS location).
Many people complain about phones no longer have removable batteries. On one hand I can totally relate on the other: I had like 20 phones with removable batteries starting with the Siemens S4 and I never changed the battery
Number of times I've dropped my phone in water: 0
Number of times I've replaced dead batteries: Countless
This isn't about waterproofing, it's about selling more phones
hahaha nice meme
Exactly...
I've dropped my non waterproof phone in water twice, but it still functions fine after letting it dry in rice for a night.
I've never had to replace a phone battery but I always use my phone in the shower for listening to music. The fuck are you on about?
same! i've been using cell phones for 15 years,never dropped any of my phones in water
Say whatever excuse you want, the only reason they do it is for you to buy a whole new phone instead of just changing the battery.
Despite all the reasons provided in the video...................... Your tinfoil is leaking.
@@frequentlycynical642 no tin foil, we already know lots of phone companies are in oligopoly "agreements".
In other things, the waterproof argument is stupid at best and idiotic at worst.
The only valid reason in my opinion is the hardcase battery. But that is but a small sacrifice for a replaceable battery that makes the phone, in most cases, live far longer.
it's pretty known..people can sometimes be stupid really
No shit. Apple makes their phones last up to a year than it just gets worse and worse. That's why a Samsung s3 works better than a iPhone 5
Even the battery life is set at 2 years. After that its garbage.
Hasnt the Samsung s5 a closeable cover for water proofing?
Still removable on mine, just needed a screwdriver to pry off the back. When it started failing while at work, I pried it open with fingernails to get the battery number.
why do people make the excuse that making the batteries be glued to the insides of their phones under an easily breakable glass back is somehow neccecary for water protection, I have a digital camera that is more waterproofed then any phone ever made, and has a touchscreen and has many buttons and has its own processor and wireless capabilities. and it still allows you to swap the battery and SD card at a push and turn of a button
The Galaxy S5 has a removable battery..
Plot twist: It's also waterproof.
Plot twist it's actually not. The cheap flimsy back failed and let water in
Gonzalo Fonseca water resistant, i remembered it had a cap for the charging peripheral.
@@jeffreyrodriguez1913 lol freaking flappy caps over the ports to call it water resistant haha I can already tell that it was a cheap lagdroid that was ugly looking probably with rubber on back and sides haha
@Dual J the Gamer lol why would anyone bother removing the case everytime when charging? Phones are water resistant for accidental reason and yes it works when it isn't something with a removable battery. Also if water can't get in the phone it should protect against the salt water, but nearly no phone does that because it's not waterproof
theres no waterproof phone. only water resistant
Uh, I hate to be disrespectful here, but no. This is almost a step-by-step repeat of your headphone jack video, and it contains all the same faulty logic in addition to some new ones. The most telling issue to give away that this is about profit rather than engineering, is the fact that laptop makers got rid of swappable batteries at almost the exact same time. Not just for slim-build laptops either, where such a thing might actually be justified. No. These days even big chunky laptops tend not to have batteries you can change yourself. And if you want them replaced, you have to send them off to the manufacturer for it. That, or you can send it to a third party repair center and have the battery replaced for a very small fraction of the price.
Finally, going the route they've gone in with batteries have actually made them less durable while actively cutting into the battery life. I like reasonably thin phones myself, but not at the expense of these other features. Besides that, as even you've pointed out. When phones become too thin and start losing their bezel, they become actively uncomfortable to use. Thus, I'd argue, that despite having better chips, better camera's, and better displays, smartphones are worse now than they were a few years ago as they don't perform their core functions as well.
Thus, the last few phones I've bought have actually been lower end models. They often still have the headphone jack, still have screens that are comfortable to hold, still have physical buttons and are cheaper to replace when the battery goes up in smoke. In other words, all this progress you've cited actually make higher-end smartphones LESS attractive to me, not more. Even you've said as much yourself at various times. So it's highly disconcerting to see you back-peddle whenever you make these videos.
So if you were running apple, you would get rid of the bezeless display and ip68 waterproofing in favor of a removable battery?
@@loreaver3882
On the bezel, yes. It offers very little to no benefit to the consumer, while making the phones less comfortable to use.
On the waterproofing. As numerous other people have pointed out, there are phones with removable batteries that are water proofed. Saying it is either/or simply isn't an accurate statement.
But yes, being able to replace batteries on your own is a far better feature. It takes the cost of replacing a battery from up-to $200usd, to $20-$30usd.
That is an extremely potent benefit to the consumer, and is more likely to be utilized than waterproofing.
But if you accidentally drop your phone in the pool that’s $700 - $1,000 down the drain
Phones a few years ago were waterproof and had removable batteries. Time is not moving that quickly.
@@loreaver3882
1: If you're spending a thousand dollars on a phone then you deserve anything you get.
2: What the heck are you doing with your phone in a pool!? Swim or get out to use your phone. What sort of bizarre edge case would require using both at once?!
3: You're spending that much on a phone, and haven't gotten insurance on it!?! Yes, it will cover stuff like that.
4: Finally, as was pointed out earlier. Having a removable battery does not mean you can't put in water proofing. Phones with removable batteries have done it before. It's not that difficult an engineering feat.
But frankly, I still don't care. I've owned numerous phones. None of them have ever been waterproofed. I work around water quite a bit, and have never had an issue. So long as you're not an idiot and don't completely submerge your device, you're probably fine.
If taking out the swapable battery was really necessary for this, it still wouldn't be a worthwhile feature given the trade-offs.
Less durability, shorter product lifespan, and no ability to quick swap out power sources. That's a pretty severe trade off for a feature hardly anyone cares about.
EU: hold my beer.
Nonsense! Thinner phones? Phones are already so thin that we need a case to hold onto them. Water resistance? Rubber seal. Odd shapes? Smart phones are just rectangles. Flexible phones? Flexible batteries are much easier to design than flexible screens.
Agreed 100%.
There were some downsides tho, for example, many fake and unnoficial batteries sold as official. You can imagine the quality... Big companies wanted to shut down this black market.
@@nicosoftnt It is a smarter decision so that phone manufacturers can skip the investigation when smartphones explode or catch fire for some reason.
'black market', what they're doing is making stupid proprietary batteries, when they have the same weight, power, and amp-hours as a good rechargeable AA. Which there are MANY devices that use AAs and are waterproof. AAs are the real official battery, instead of these inefficiently designed rectangular battery knockoffs.
Hotel? Trivago.
Of course it is nonsense. That does not stop users from demanding it.
I mean, if users really wanted the objectively best phone, why is Apple still in business.
The S5 has ip67 water resistance and removable battery and headphone jack
Congrats you can read other people's comments
@@dacorthegreat1314 Yeah but most of them are low to midrange phones.
The first phone that i bought myself in high school
S10 has headphone jack....
It's not that hard to waterproof the new phones. It's that doing so would make $1,000 phones even more expensive.