You Freeze your Lane but your Enemy roams - now what?

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  • čas přidán 10. 07. 2022
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Komentáře • 36

  • @natsuruislove
    @natsuruislove Před rokem +236

    ok but if I press q on the minions I get big dopamine hit so why would I freeze?

    • @EragonUK
      @EragonUK  Před rokem +116

      True it is very fun to see lots shiny coins appear

    • @baldboyfriend8589
      @baldboyfriend8589 Před 6 měsíci +1

      LOL this is me everytime. Us guys who live off dopamine cannot freeze

    • @SlyI42
      @SlyI42 Před 6 měsíci +1

      You have a big argument

  • @bacardibatman2996
    @bacardibatman2996 Před rokem +71

    It's always amazing when you tell people that the top is roaming mid and then you watch the roam work 10 sec later

    • @b4ptist
      @b4ptist Před rokem

      happened today to me. truly hilarious.

    • @tomekl3476
      @tomekl3476 Před 7 měsíci +8

      When i play mid and ping my bot quadrilion times because enemy mid and jungle is coming right to them in snails pace and they still get caught when they hard more than enough time to back off

    • @sulista4855
      @sulista4855 Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@tomekl3476It's like they don't believe it will happen or want a visual confirmation, but, usually, past that point it is already too late.

  • @Pixctvsff
    @Pixctvsff Před rokem +39

    4:40 yeah this moment when us all top laners realize what happened on the other side of the map tho lol

  • @udojurgens1400
    @udojurgens1400 Před rokem +23

    Great analysis and good job immediately fixing accidents! Keep it up, your vids are super helpful

  • @zcvhzd
    @zcvhzd Před rokem +2

    This makes a lot of sense, thank you

  • @mattbell888
    @mattbell888 Před rokem +6

    We do a little editing

  • @aldomancebo123
    @aldomancebo123 Před rokem +23

    You did nothing wrong here, unlucky team. This is what makes me appreciate games like TFT more. Everyone plays for themselves

    • @klauskeller6380
      @klauskeller6380 Před rokem +4

      You might like the game starcraft 2 then. You should try it out!

  • @DimeloVi
    @DimeloVi Před 7 měsíci

    Great Analysis!
    It will be great if you could share the whole game with your insights/analysis ❤

  • @smokyx
    @smokyx Před rokem

    great analysis and lesson, content could be way better but I'm sure you know this already and will get better over time! Thank you for uploading this content :)

  • @luftmagier11
    @luftmagier11 Před rokem +2

    gud vid thyvm choach

  • @Blackfrog67
    @Blackfrog67 Před rokem +1

    thank you for the great content. Top lane is really frustrating sometimes you win your lane you freeze the ennemy, yet your jungler keep forcing play bot mid when they are clearly losing. If only they could remove catch up exp freezing would be so much more worth and bad laners that afk roam would not be as rewarded. Also I'de say you break the freeze if you wanna reset also, I see so many people that freeze when they have an item power spykes, sometimes recalling and spending gold is the play xd.

  • @plasmahvh
    @plasmahvh Před rokem +1

    a nice tip i abuse when smurfing on a new account is freezing lvl 4-5 holding till 5 and a half or so. turning it into a slowpush and then walking around bushes with a tiny amount of xp needed for 6. then with 6 advantage i can easily force flash or get a kill.

  • @patrikmarkovic1968
    @patrikmarkovic1968 Před rokem +5

    what do I do when my jungler is botside and enemy is freezing while having advantage on me?

    • @EragonUK
      @EragonUK  Před rokem +16

      Depends on the game/champs mate. But most of the time your options include soaking XP in bushes and waiting for help, dying to crash (champ dependant) and unironically waiting for the enemy to mess up the freeze - this sounds dumb but 99% of the playerbase can't maintain freezes. To say more I'd need to see the game.

    • @drew1578
      @drew1578 Před rokem

      @@EragonUK how can you tell if dying to crash a wave is worth it? Would it be worth it on irelia?

    • @EragonUK
      @EragonUK  Před rokem +12

      @@drew1578 How much gold you give when you die + how much xp you lose vs how much gold you lose for the freeze (depends how long it is held) - very often it isn't worth it, if you were to just soak xp in bushes that's often a better strategy.
      But PLEASE look into why you are frozen on with a disadvantage in the first place. Top lane is a lot about looking back at previous mistakes which set up bad situations.

    • @dishonored6116
      @dishonored6116 Před rokem +2

      You can bait a trade so the enemy minions hit your minions while your minions hit the enemy laner. Other then that, you just can't. One option though is to proxy the wave if they freeze.

  • @skiaelafris759
    @skiaelafris759 Před 8 měsíci

    Ziggs is likely to die to Lee + Vel even if Garen is not there

  • @Muwubot
    @Muwubot Před rokem +2

    No first strike Renekton detected. Opinion rejected

    • @StoneDeceiver
      @StoneDeceiver Před rokem

      1st strike renekton is trash. PTA is by far the best for dmg

  • @ox4tune
    @ox4tune Před rokem +1

    plot twist, garen was afk

  • @burritogod59
    @burritogod59 Před rokem

    Technically your editing self is right and they don't lose gold, but they do miss out on gold making it a 240g difference.

    • @thebreadscare
      @thebreadscare Před rokem +6

      No, he was right. You gaining 120g while enemy gains 0g = 120g difference. It confused me for a moment, but I thought about it like this: if enemy was farming that wave, he would also get 120g which is a 0g difference.

    • @burritogod59
      @burritogod59 Před rokem +1

      @@thebreadscare ahhh you are right. Starting from the point of both people farming the wave and it being a net 0, it would only be a 120g difference when one is not farming. I find this to be a less compelling argument then though. 120g is not much. The exp is a much bigger factor than gold if it's only 120g per wave.

    • @thebreadscare
      @thebreadscare Před rokem +1

      @@burritogod59 maybe a little less compelling but if the enemy wastes enough time you get a lot for little effort. And if they come back then you have all the advantages of maintaining that freeze (they have to be vulnerable if they want to farm)

  • @Moijau1
    @Moijau1 Před 7 měsíci

    In my opinion after Garen appears is easy for you to break the freeze and crash the wave with renek for a free back and close if not complete your mythic item saving tp, you have ignite, lee probably use R to kill ziggs or kayn, you have R, dont know about R garen, but you can actually 2 vs 1 in that state.

  • @dbfblackbull
    @dbfblackbull Před 6 měsíci

    Been playing for years. Never learned how to freeze. The game really does a poor job of teaching you it's mechanics. If only there were a good tutorial built in

  • @fostyy106
    @fostyy106 Před 2 měsíci

    *meanwhile me in silver*
    Me: "bro where tf is garen? I didnt seen him in the minimap for like 2 minutes"
    Garen: *AFK in base*