All-New 2024 Subaru Crosstrek review // Some welcome changes!
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- This is a Motormouth couple car review of the all-new 2024 Subaru Crosstrek subcompact SUV.
The 2024 Subaru Crosstrek has been re-engineered from the ground up, it has a more rugged exterior design, new steering responsive LED headlights and a redesigned cabin with a new available infotainment system. Subaru says, the 2024 Subaru Crosstrek has a 10% stiffer chassis for improved performance and ride quality and the latest version of Subaru symmetrical full-time AWD with a faster response time and better control on and off-road.
In Canada, gone is the Sport and Outdoor models, Subaru has added the Onyx trim to the lineup. This engine is standard on the two base models.
There are two engine choices, a 2L 4-cylinder matched to a CVT, 152 horsepower and 145 lb-ft of torque, it is standard on the two base models.
The second option is a 2.5L 4-cylinder engine with 182 horsepower and 178 lb-ft of torque, it’s standard on the two top trims.
Unfortunately, there is no longer a manual transmission offering on the 2024 Subaru Crosstrek models.
The Canadian 2024 Subaru Crosstrek will continue to be built in Japan. However, for the first time, US 2024 Subaru Crosstrek models with the 2.5L engine will be produced in the U.S at the Indiana plant. Production of the US Crosstrek 2L 4-cylinder models will continue at the Subaru plant in Japan.
Standard features include, a 4.2” multi-information display, a 7” touchscreen, available 11.6”, wired Apple Carplay and Android Auto, available wireless, 4-speaker audio system, available 6-speaker and a Harman Kardon sound system, heated front seats, a manual driver and passenger seat, cloth upholstery, X-Mode with hill descent control and SI-Drive and EyeSight Driver Assist Technology.
In the US, heated front seats are not standard but are an option one up from the base model, standard on the top two trims.
Here’s the Canadian pricing, Convenience $28,995 CAD, Touring $32,195 CAD, Onyx $33,995 CAD Limited $36,995 CAD.
In the US, Base $24,995 USD, Premium $26,145 USD, Sport $28,995 USD
Limited $30,895 USD.
In Canada, the Crosstrek accounted for 35% of Subaru sales in 2022, it’s an important vehicle for the brand. Even though the Crosstrek is all new for 2024, the exterior looks very similar with tweaks to the front grille, headlamps, taillamps, rear, unique wheels for each trim level and new steering responsive LED headlights are standard on all trims.
Many of the changes have come to the interior with the new available 11.6” touchscreen, wireless Apple Carplay and Android Auto, a wireless charger and improved seat comfort. The base trim has cloth upholstery, available premium cloth, trico and leather.
Some features the Crosstrek does not have are ventilated front seats, heated rear seats and a power tailgate.
The Crosstrek is more aerodynamic with new air outlets at the front fender and the rear bumper, it has a 10% stiffer chassis for improved performance and ride quality and the latest version of Subaru symmetrical full-time AWD with a faster response time and better control on and off-road. Blind spot monitoring in available one up from the base model.
The Crosstrek base engine has a 2L 4-cylinder matched to a CVT, 152 horsepower and 145 lb-ft of torque. The second option is a 2.5L 4-cylinder engine with 182 horsepower and 178 lb-ft of torque. Gone is the manual transmission on the 2024 model.
There are no changes in fuel economy, the Crosstrek 2L 4-cylinder gets 8.5L/100 km, 27 MPG city and 7.0L/100 km, 34 MPG highway. The 2.5L 4-cylinder 8.8L/100 km, 26 MPG city and 7.0L/100 km, 33 MPG highway.
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I believe you're right... the Subaru Crosstrek with the 2.5-liter engine is probably the most practical subcompact car on the market... the fact that it has a spare tire, fog lamps, and rear wiper is a major plus... most manufacturers are leaving out these important items to save on costs but, I think they are vital and necessary safety components.
I wish they included blind spot monitoring.
They also give you a sunroof, a power seat, wireless carplay, a rear seat armrest and LED headlights in their mid-trim, unlike the HR-V, Corolla Cross or Kona which force you to buy the top trim...
@solahoi what would make it a top trim if it didn't have more features?
@@JG90984I wanted to add the BSM to the one I’m getting but you can only get it with the moonroof. I don’t want a moonroof, they’ve been nothing but trouble in every car I’ve ever owned. Leaks, broken glass, and motor issues make a power moonroof a very expensive add on
@@JG90984 agreed, i wish BSM came standard, most manufactures have them on their base level
The reason nobody buys the manual because it’s only on the base trim with the base options. I want the 2.5 wilderness or limited in the manual, but can’t have it. To have to deal with the base engine, small screen and base seat materials, all to have a manual is a bigger sacrifice than it needs to be. The main problem is that Subaru is marketing the Crosstrek manual as the cheapest way to get a Crosstrek, instead of a transmission choice, and they should know better. On the other side of the spectrum, they offer a CVT on the the most expensive variant of the WRX which also doesn’t make sense. Give the people a choice! Thanks for the great content as always.
If I’m not mistaken you can’t do things like push button, auto start and start/stop with a manual. My guess is people want at least push button and auto start more than manuals so they chose to serve those customers instead which I think makes sense. More people don’t know how to drive stick than do these days
@@Michael-ur5qb Subaru doesn’t offer push button start on the Crosstrek manual, but they do on the WRX and BRZ. Other manufacturers include that as well as BLIS, adaptive cruise control, rear cross traffic alert etc. The main problem is that Subaru is marketing the Crosstrek manual as the cheapest way to get a Crosstrek, instead of a transmission choice, and they should know better. On the other side of the spectrum, they offer a CVT on the the most expensive variant of the WRX which also doesn’t make sense.
@@Michael-ur5qb I have a 20 years old Bmw with a manual and it has keyless access, start stop in neutral, adaptive cruise control. Jeep says it can’t have full time 4WD with a manual, all German brands prove otherwise
While I understand what you are saying, I’m sure they have data that shows people who buy vehicles like this go for the mid-to-upper trims and overwhelmingly buy AT/CVTs - not because they can’t buy manuals but because they simply don’t sell enough of them to justify building manuals in the higher trims. This is the case for other manufacturers of similar vehicles as well.
The unfortunately fallout of this is that those who want manuals in the higher trims are out of luck. People who want the higher trims care more for that rather than whether it has a manual. And that’s where Subarus makes their money - in CVTs with higher trims. It is a shame that the manuals only come with the lesser models but it’s a way for Subaru to justify keeping the manuals.
@@Michael-ur5qb good points. and you’re right, MT cars don’t normally have push-to-start buttons or auto start/stop. People like their AT stuff with buttons and levers. And since AT are getting super quick in shifting and more efficient than manuals, it’s no wonder pure MT are slowly dying.
I want to say I love your reviews that are focused on real world livability and things that matter most to consumers.
The XV is a great car and agree with your assesment as do soo many here on Greater Vancouver where its super popular.
As for the Manual - well yes and no- Subaru did sell many because in their usual fashion they sold it in the underpowered 2L and not 2.5L or doing a 2L turbo. If they really wanted to sell Manuals just put some emphasis on what enthusiasts want instead of ignoring them as they contnue to do with the new WRX and lack of Impreza/ WRX wagon which they sell incredibly well in other markets as the levorg.
This from a longtime Subaru owner - Forester, Legacy Wagon, Penultimate Outback 3.6R. I like much of Subarus direction minus their dropping an enthusiast wagon whether its a Turbo Legacy or Outback with a manual of which they sold plenty of - I see a few everyday and most are being driven into the ground because the market lacks real alternatives...
My daughter has had the previous version for a year and a half, and loves it. I took it on a road trip through the mountains and was really impressed. Really solid, nice to drive. This sounds even better.
A real good overall little suv. Great value, good features and you can drive ( almost) anywhere.
Actually I liked that comes without power lift gate, they have tendency to have issues: drains battery, malfunctions, etc.
It would be awesome:
* A full hybrid version not a mild hybrid.
* The chassis is good, would love to see a real Sport Trim with a Turbo engine.
As an owner of a Honda and Ford touch screen system I definitely find a level of driver distraction variation between the various vehicles. Just turning on my heated steering wheel in the ford requires me to go into the climate section of the screen and then press a small steering wheel. All the time I’m not looking out the windshield. Be cool if you add feedback on the level of distraction in each vehicle tested. 13:02
This really gives a nice look to what a next gen forester will look like! Still so charming with improvements that consumers have asked for.
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Well, I listened and you were heard. I am picking up my wife's new wilderness cross trek today. we are giving up our very reliable 2014 escape FWD. We are excited. thanks for your review. I just like the 4 cyl they offered and not the new 3cyl escapes.
Nobody bought the manual because it came with the lethargic 152hp 2.0L engine. Had it been offered with the 2.5L, manual sales would have significantly increased.
Manufacturers are only offering manuals with base models, then cutting production when manual sales are weak.
They create the problem, then solve it by eliminating the option
There are brands like Nissan, Hyundai and VW that offer it on other trims besides the base model.
Glad to see somebody brought this up. Mazda also does this with the Mazda3.
@@aurekogaming6600 True about Mazda as well. At least Subau offers the WRX with more manual trims.
There just isn't a point to a manual on a commuter car anymore. The CVT goes faster and gets better fuel economy, plus they have to gear the manual's taller to match the emissions of a CVT, so even if they do sell more manuals at a higher trim, the cost of car development is so expensive it's not worth it.
Great review as always. Your previous review of the Crosstrek influenced me heavily in making the decision to buy the '23 Outdoor trim. I'm loving it and glad I got the 23 model in cool grey. Thanks!
That's amazing, thanks for sharing!
@realdeal8607
We get the LED headlights here in Australia & they're 'made in Japan' 😮
Well done Subaru for making all the Canadian models of the Crosstrek made in Japan! I'd much rather have a car that's made in Japan than elsewhere and when I first heard (from American reviewers) that only the 2.0L Crosstreks were made in Japan, I thought the same applied to Canada which would've been a bummer since I'm only interested in the 2.5L version. With that concern out of the way, the choice between this, the Corolla Cross Hybrid and the Mazda CX-30 would be tough indeed (for me), but it's the made in Japan aspect of the Subaru that might tilt the choice in its favor, being that the other two are made in the US and Mexico, respectively.
Made in Japan is better, and I would never buy made in Mexico. I'd get the Corolla Cross Hybrid
Pretty sure the Subaru Crosstrek is “made in Japan” and only assembled in the USA, and a lot are assembled in Japan. But all of the motors I believe are fully built in Japan. But very valid points and good questions, the Crosstrek is becoming the “it” car for a lot of current buyers, well done Subaru!
@@Vanish723 That's correct; the major components are probably built in Japan and only assembled in the US, but it's the quality of assembly that does differentiate cars that are fully made in Japan and those assembled elsewhere. Things like paint quality, panel gaps' size/consistency and interior fit/finish are almost always better on the former.
@@sammyt3514 I agree!
Zach, I don’t see any unsold manual transmission vehicles on the dealer lots. People are trying to buy them. We purchased the second last 2023 Crosstrek for Canada and our dealer told us, they turned away over 20 clients wanting a manual. Subaru stopped shipping manuals because they don’t integrate into all the safety systems that Subaru want standard in every vehicle sold. Next is the WRX.
We sold our 2006 Nissan X-trail Manual and we had multiple offers because it was a manual. Sold for $1000 over asking.
It is a limited market overall. Even dealerships tell us, there are very few buying manual transmissions these days. In fact, they can't even drive them, they never learned. Zack had a manual pick up and it took longer to sell because it was a manual. Obviously, that wasn't the case with your vehicle. I do believe as less are built, they will be worth more money one day which is why we ordered a GTI with a manual transmission. We plan on keeping it long term. This week we are driving an MX-5 manual and I absolutely LOVE it. That model comes standard with a manual, option automatic.
It seems like they have jacked the price up since last year. You have to spend $2500 more this year for the cheapest trim with the 2.5L engine.
there certainly are alot of them on the road around here..and think they are worth checking out for sure...the awd is a great feature and having lots of room for the class..bonus🙂
You make car reviews so much more fun to watch! Thank you. Notwithstanding the Crosstrek off-roading capabilities primarily due to the excellent ground clearance, would you agree that Subaru could have named it 'Raised Impreza'? Interior dimensions are near identical, and the 2024 RS offers the 2.5 litre. Although off-roading in the GTA could come in handy given the congestion on the hiways and biways 😂 Cheers
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I got my 2023 Crosstrek Limited trim with a 2.5L boxer engine it's awesome to drive and I love to switch from I drive to S drive you really feel the difference. And I love the screen as is it.
Love my 2024 Onyx Crosstrek, having traded my 2020 Crosstrek. BIG improvements in noise suppression, bigger engine, comfort and technology. Minor complaint..the wheels on my 2020 were more substantial. Would really like Subaru to add a power lift gate and height adjustment on passenger seat.
It the highway speed more quite inside the interior? Is the Bluetooth audio for the phone better?
You guys make a great team and I really enjoy your videos
Not really a big deal here in Georgia, but my family and friends in the frozen north place great value in remote start: Could we add that feature to future reviews, please? Another great job: Y'all are my go-to source for new car reviews.
Yes it has remote start from the phone app
Hey Andrea, Zack genuinely looked frightened. I'm liking the weather with you guys in this video. Nice looking car and the interia looks very cool too! 😎
Gorgeous weather
I feel like this gen is more like a Gen 2.5 than a Gen3. It's still a good car, but the changes they made to it they needed to do, but don't move the game forward much. This is last year's car, but made to comply with 2024 realities.
The revised body shell they needed to do because the previous Impreza/Crosstrek was a top safety pick with the IIHS when it came out 6 years ago, but the test has been revised to account for heavier cars so they needed to upgrade the chassis. The 11" infotainment is ergonomically worse than the previous setup with a top LCD, 8" screen and physical HVAC knobs. The new system doesn't do anything significantly different than the previous one (other than wireless phone connectivity), because it's still ambient info top, radio/maps middle, HVAC at the bottom. Except with a touch screen everything takes longer and you have to take your eyes off the road to do stuff. But ostensibly they want to parts bin it with the Outback, WRX, Levorg, etc so that everything is the same for cost efficiency.
Improving seat comfort is a nice touch. The previous seats didn't have much lumbar support, and while not uncomfortable on long rides, they didn't have much give or cushion.
This is still a great car, but with all car prices creeping up, the thrill of getting lots for your money isn't as much as it used to be. Also: it's cliche, but you really are paying for the AWD system, there's nothing like it short of an Audi in the snow.
Thanks for the great review! I own a 2014 Crosstrek manual that has consumed oil since day one, so it has been frustrating. Tempting to upgrade and get another crosstrek because no other crossovers seem to have so many features at that price point. Might need another orange one 😊
Depends on how Subaru treated you? If they didn’t fix or compensate you for your oil issue, I wouldn’t reward them by given them more of your hard earned cash again.
That might be Made in North America Version of "Heavy Fuji Industries" We have a Subaru Legacy 1992 Model, imported from Japan, and the Oil Engine has been so clean that even after few month of Driving, the Oil is like New Change. Since the Clearance/ Under-hood is high we/I changed oil every 3-4 months and twice Annually Oil Filters ... (took 5 minutes for me to change oil)
And the Timing-Belt Originally stayed until 2019 when we had it changed. The Impreza BRZ that Subaru in collaboration with Toyota are the Best. The Original Tires/ Bridgestone and Rims Winter Tires still can be used and Changed in the Winter 1992 until now? The cost of Ownership was only Summer Tires and 2 CV Axes. Otherwise all original; and I even have spare Parts including Column Steering/Signal Parts. Other Subaru Outback 2007 Made in USA needed Head-Gasket Changed in 2019 ─ not the Legacy 1992 one!
Cheers,
They still had some lurking oil problems after the major head gasket issue was corrected in 2012, I wouldn’t be worried about that problem with any of the new models!
You guys always do a great video. I think you should add one more thing . How quiet is the cab inside when on the highway. You can use a DB tester from a phone. My Crosstrek 2021 with the larger engine runs 76-81db at 122km
This car is probably the absolute best first car for your teen or early twenties. Wow, I'm getting the feeling they won't be able to keep up with production because of the massive sales of this vehicle! The only chance Hyundai and Kia can keep up is if they finally solve the wireless carplay/Android auto scandal. I really get the feeling this vehicle will turn into the top seller among all vehicles in every class
Nice review. I am hesitating between the Onyx and the Corolla Cross Hybrid. I don't mind the wait. The problem with the CC hybrid in Canada is that roof rails (a must for me) are only available on the the top trim XSE, which would end up costing 4200$ more after tax than the Onyx, an amount that you'd recuperate after 5-6 yrs in gas savings.
I just bought one...better yet I traded in my 2021 Crosstrek sport for the 2024 Crosstrek sport. The blue color is beautiful!
Test driving one this Monday, great review. Cheers.
I havent been to Kelowna in years. Nice to see your test is based out there. This car is not my "cup of tea," but a great review, as always!
My top choice for this subcompact CUV/SUV class is the Mazda CX-30. It's hard to beat Mazda's combination of luxury, horsepower, safety and standard AWD. However, my second choice is the Subaru Crosstrek. I'm not sure that I like the new touchscreen; however, I still think that the Subaru is the second best choice in the class. When I was making my choice in February, I thought that I would go for a Toyota Corolla Cross, C-HR or Honda HRV. I even considered some less-conventional options like the Hyundai Santa Cruz. However, I ultimately narrowed down my choices between the Subaru Crosstrek and Mazda CX-30. They are well ahead of the others. I ultimately chose the Mazda; but, there were things that I liked more about the Subaru.
Yea, I think those two are the class of the segment. Crosstrek and CX-30 are sort of directed to different audiences though. For city driving with occasional use in snow/slippery conditions, the edge might to to the Mazda. If you are more inclined to light off-roading, I would lean toward the Crosstrek. The advantage to the CX-30 is that you get the 2.5L in all trim lines, while you have to go to the Sport or Limited to get it in the Crosstrek. My reservations about the CX-30 are the stiffer suspension/solid rear axle and the non-touch infotainment system. I know the CX-30 is sportier, but in MN, the roads look like the surface of the moon with potholes and cold weather stiffens the suspension, so I probably would prefer the softer ride of the Crosstrek.
@@edsmith9855 plus the Crosstrek has more ground clearance, lots more…. Once you drive a lifted car, it’s hard to go back to normal lifts. I’m a city guy, but I go into the country a lot and live in Canada with lots of snow, Crosstrek wins hands down!
My bad the ground clearance on the Mazda isn’t that bad 8”, minimum required for off road, although the Crosstrek is 8.7”, better…
@@TheNewMediaoftheDawn - Quite a few people switch tires to add another inch or two of clearance over the standard tires. Plus, I just returned from a trip to Mt. Shasta (in lots of snow) and the standard AWD in the CX-30 performed remarkably.
My choice of the CX-30 over the Crosstrek really came down to how I normally drive. I live in the Silicon Valley. I go camping a few times each year and then take occasional yearly trips to Yosemite, Tahoe and Shasta. So, my AWD will mainly be for such trips.
For most of my use, it's a daily driver. So, the better standard HP/torque, safety and premium interior just makes it a very fun and comfortable vehicle to drive. This new CX-30 might be the quietest vehicle that I've used regularly (even compared with luxury vehicles).
Don't get me wrong: I like the Subaru Crosstrek and seriously considered it. However, it just wasn't the daily driver that I wanted.
@@edsmith9855 And higher ride height!
The lack of a hybrid in Canada (for now) is unfortunate. It'd be near-perfect for long trips!
I remember trying to buy a prior generation Crosstrek with a manual transmission. None available in a 500 mile RADIUS of where I lived. Yes, they were simply NOT available, despite people wanting to buy them.
We/I believe that the new All Wheel Symmetrical latest version that AI/ Electronically Sensing the Tractions and distributed the Torque to that Wheel/Tire ─ An over-ride Manual would defeat the Purpose and might even interfere with the All Computerized AI controls.
Cheers,
You needed to ORDER it. 😁
I wanted a Limited, loaded with everything. I looked at more than a few dealerships, even though I already knew the only dealership I'd buy from.
I ended up ordering what I wanted from them.
I think the CVT would be a deal breaker for me. Living in the PNW, a heated steering wheel would be a nice feature. Also, a bit more engine power. However, everything else makes the Crosstrek a desirable option. Especially for the outdoor types. Great review as always!
10 years with my subie CVT. Nothing wrong with it and I'm sure they have done exponential improvements .
I agree with you that a “CVT” sounds scary but we own a crosstrek and it’s been super reliable and it’s the best vehicle for the snow/rain. Also the best vehicle i’ve driven off road.
Yeah, CVT drone sounds bad and feels bad.
Our cvt broke and was very expensive
@@shahsmerdis buy a lotto ticket
thanks for your in-depth easy to understand reviews - well done!
One of the best deals on the road. Great design, AWD system and size. I do wish they would’ve considered adding a manual to their 2.5L (even last gen. didn’t), but I fail to see why people (Zack) would ever want a power lift gate (potential repair, cost (hydraulic struts are super cheap) and they are SLOW… in my opinion). Otherwise… I’d strongly recommend one to almost anyone for the quality, practicality and price (HRV starts at nicely equipped Onyx versions). Great vehicle. Thanks for the video.
well i traded in a 2017 jeep wrangler for a new crosstrek. I've never looked back I absolutely love my ne w crosstrec
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I really like this car and am pushing my mom to get one. My question is why is the Crosstrek considered a subcompact while the Impreza (that the Crosstrek is based on) is considered a compact vehicle? Hmm.. Great video as always. You guys are truly awesome!
The higher ground clearance of the Crosstrek makes it a SUV, otherwise they are very similar in terms of interior design and space
I really wanted a '23 manual transmission car. I've always had a manual. But I couldn't find anything I liked. The '23 Crosstrek only offered the smaller engine in the manual and it was really underpowered and not fun to drive at all. I ended up getting a Rav4 hybrid and I love it, but I miss the fun of driving a manual sometimes. I think enthusiasts would buy manuals if they didn't only come on the bare bones base models. :(
You can get the manual in premium trim too, which I have. It has heated seats, heated mirrors and rear glass, heated windshield where the wipers sit, 6 speaker stereo, cd player, upgraded seats over the base model, leather wrapped steering wheel, climate control, body colored mirrors, fog lights, etc.
The 2L engine is not fast but more than adequate, especially with the manual. It’s a high compression engine so I use 91 octane and that seems to improve performance and fuel economy. I think the CT manual is an absolute blast to drive.
Not gonna lie. I’ve got a little case of FOMO. Just bought a 23 Limited in Feb this year and some of those upgrades like beefed up chassis, more power seat controls and wireless charging would’ve been great to have.
Meh I just bought a 2023 and prefer it. I hate digital controls, knobs are way better. I prefer the 23 look too. The only better thing about the 24 is the improved bumper cladding imo.
BTW, you two really are the best at this. Always outstanding reviews. Thanks
Wow, thank you!
The infotainment system , being vertical you have to look down for the information at the bottom of it, they should have made it horizontal . I have 2019 top trim, had 2014 base mode, never get the base again😂, I also had a legacy 2010 and outback 2014.
This is probably top of my list for the next purchase.
Back in 2020 I test drove a crosstrek and a Mazda CX30. The CX30 was much quieter in all respects. I'm glad Subaru was paying attention and made the car quieter... bravo!. Now if they can get a quieter CVT or get rid of it all together that would be great too!! The CX30 has a "regular" automatic and to top it off I'm getting great fuel miles. This past trip I got 36 mpg on the highway and 28-30 around town. I don't drive fast or nuts..
Great review of the new Subi...tnx
The CVT isn't "noisy"... it's the drivetrain combo that is somewhat loud.
You know….that bobble head doll idea would be a cool addition in your reviews.
Maybe two custom made ones of yourselves?
Keep up the great reviews!
I had both a 2.0 and 2.5 litre Mazda 3 some 15 years ago and the fuel consumption was 2L more for the 2.5, 12 vs 10L.
So, I can’t see this only having 0.3L consumption difference between the two engines.
Went from white 2.0L manual sedan to sportier black 2.5L automatic hatchback. They were both great otherwise.
You are guessing and guessed wrong 0:54
Just because you think something , doesn't make it true, do your research
Lots of people bought them, hence lots of people complaining they are gone
People who prefer CVT's would not complain that the manual was gone, common sense should prevail here
Subaru discontinued the manual transmission because EyeSight driver-assist technology is now standard across the line, thanks to Subaru's decision to eliminate the Crosstrek's manual transmission option. The automaker's corporate safety goals require using EyeSight in every car, and that safety technology doesn't work with a stick-shift
I am really disappointed with the manual transmission being gone.
Call me crazy, but I really think it is manufactured scarcity because all dealers I've called here sell their manuals as soon as they receive them, and some of them even before they even arrive.
Canadians also have an exclusive Sport trim manual Crosstrek! Although it only has the 2.0L engine, for some strange stupid reason. I am still a proud owner of a 2021.
I've always loved this vehicle, but I DETEST CVTs! This is the only Subaru I could ever stomach purchasing (the other models are ugly). If they'd ditch the CVT for a normal torque converter tranny, I'd be the first one in line to buy one.
A traditional automatic would impose a big change on the packaging of Subaru. The CVT's now fit in about the same space as the old 4-speed autos, if you want an 8-10speed auto that either pushes the engine further out from the firewall or has the transmission intrude more into the passenger compartment. Audi has leewyay to engineer aroudn these issues because they are a luxury brand with high margins per vehicle, but the CVT solves a packaging issue with Subaru's north-south drivetrain layout.
@Brian Lee - Okay. According to every engineering review and peer-review journal article regarding the reliability of CVTs, they just aren't as reliable as automatic or manual transmissions. Moreover, they aren't as ideal for long-term usability -- even if they come from Subaru, Honda and Toyota (who offer the best CVTs). At some point within 7-12 years, you will be forced to replace your CVT (versus 16-28 years with a traditional automatic). This is a somewhat expensive endeavor. Feel free to block me for telling the truth.
@@stuntmonkey00 - I would add Mazda, BMW, Lexus, Mercedes, VW and a few other manufacturer makes as "successful" makers of traditional automatic transmissions.
@@ccchhhrrriiisss100not true, change the tranny fluid every 40k miles.
It's not a transmission issue, it's the valve body from lack of fresh fluids.
I don't care what ANY manufacturer says, NO fluid is a "lifetime" fluid.
Automatic Transmission issues have been prevalent for decades & decades. From Dodge, Chrysler, Plymouth, Ford, Chevrolet. Infiniti, Nissan, Subaru, Toyota, Honda, ect .......CVT or not.
Including Mazda & Mercedes-Benz.
Unfortunately, in Germany we still only get the 1.6 and 2.0 engines. The only Subaru model here that gets the 2.5 is the Outback. Sales for the brand are too low in Germany, so they don't try harder with adapting their engines to EU regulations. But as long as they don't, sales won't improve either. Just imagine driving the Forester with that 2.0 litre. We tried. It's like trying to pull a small house with a lawnmower.
Exactly, and European Outback with 2.5l engine standing in the corner and crying while observing its US and Aussie counterparts with 2.4 turbo engines.
@@thomasero842 Very true!
Japanese cars don’t really sell in Europe, Honda, Mazda and Lexus are non existent here. DS sells more cars than Lexus which I find very funny. Japanese were always years behind Germans in terms of production processes, design, technologies ( talking about manufacturing and drive and power trains, not touch screens, but these too) Every car driving in Europe in rain I see with only DRLs on are Toyotas and Koreans, Japanese can’t even have their cars differentiate between a sunny day and low visibility cloudy day, Germans had no issues with this with auto headlights in the 90s. (This also showcases the buyer of a Toyota, or a kia, and their inability to be a safe driver with a brain and turn on their headlights. Mazda is guilty of this too but all Japanese brands. Mazda also will leave the market soon along with Honda.
No surprise people in Europe want locally manufactured cars that are of quality and are more reliable and don’t disintegrate after a 100k km like a Toyota does, they want a car that’s like a BMW 5 series, spending over a million km as a taxi within 5 years and still looking brand new, no wear on the inside, paint looking pristine, and suspension and engine all working properly with only maintenance and no repairs, impossible with a Corolla, engine will run at a million but it’ll either fall apart or rust out
@@Brian-jv8iy Excellent sarcasm!
@@Brian-jv8iy The experience in Australia is that Japanese, and to a lesser degree South Korean cars, are vastly more reliable and much cheaper to service than European cars.
I actully tried to buy a 2023 6MT in December, but the dealer said they would no longer accept orders for 2023 models and it was going to drop from the 2024 models...I can't express how disappointed I was when I heard that. Since there was no other options I ordered an Onyx but now I think that was the right choice as 6MT didn't come with those safety features Subaru boasts about and conidering the fact that I would be still driving it in 10 years when I have turned mid 50s.
Always interested to hear about a new Subaru. Excellent review. I have quite a few Crosstreks and Subarus in the family. I frequently drive a Forester XT, BRZ, Crosstrek manual and Crosstrek automatic. Both Crosstreks are base model 2021s with the 2.0. The Automatic Crosstrek drives quite a bit better than the manual. Very easy to drive. Great ride quality. takes a bump really well. For the money both are amazing cars The list in 2021 for the manual was about $21,000 Cdn!. They do handle like marshmallows, but are ideal for young drivers because they encourage normal, relaxed driving rather than charging the corners. The manual is very clunky and the gear ratios and engine tuning aren't great. The seats suck. The BRZ is amazing in everything but fuel economy. Love the old Forester, but it is very , very thirsty. Also had a 21 Outback XT, but didn't like it. Due to fuel economy and the likelyhood of gas prices staying high in Canada, would probably go Toyota Hybrid if getting a new car.
Disappointed in the "new" Crosstrek. Was hoping for powertrain upgrades in both the base and uplevel trims. Should have made the 2.5L standard, ala the CX-30. Also not a fan of the new larger infotainment screen at the expense of physical buttons. The fact that it is still competitive after minimal changes from the 2017 model year shows how exceptional it was at that time, but the competition is much stiffer now, and Subaru needs to step up their game.
Not really, the Crosstrek will continue to beat the competition
I hate the new infotainment screen. It looks stupid like a Tesla. The previous generation screen was more Subaru like, and temperature knobs are always better, because you don't have to take your eyes off the road.
I like the new design and was just thinking about getting a newer-used Cross Trek, perhaps I will wait till 2025 for a nice new one.
Always fun when you call your viewers broke. Good job.
Crosstrek is seems act like a classic vehicle. I like this if only they add a hybrid. Great funny video. 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
I have a 2019 Crosstrek and can confirm most if not all that was said in this video. It really is a great car! My only complaint is that I did not have any engine options when we purchased and got stuck with the slow-pokey 2.0L option. Acceleration/torque is mediocre at best, though if you're on the highway, it does pretty well once you're up to speed, especially if you have the paddle shifters. I've even had 40 MPG using the shifters (and a bit of drafting behind semis) on the highway. No complaints about the CVT- it does a very good job going through the "gears". Overall an excellent car! This will likely help make up my mind about our next car purchase... a Forester!
Test drove the 2.0 and the 2.5 back to back. Didn’t notice THAT much difference between the two. Neither will win any races, but winning races isn’t why you buy a Crosstrek. Thought the 2.0 was adequate. The 2.0 Crosstreks are made in Japan and the 2.5’s are made in Indiana if that means anything to you.
The 2.5l has more torque as well as HP. The torque is what really makes the world go round! As for the Japan vs. U.S. built Subaru quality - mostly an internet myth.
You are the ONLY ones to mention thigh support. I had a Suburu Legacy years ago and the only complaint I had was the LACK of thigh support. Seats in Suburu feel short. I can never buy one because of that. I want one but can’t. I remember the long rides and my legs hurting.
I just met them here in kelowna at delta hotel. Shout out to both of them. I enjoy watching them.
Thanks so much, it was great to meet you too! Thanks for the support!
The idiots making decisions at Subaru only offered the 6-speed manual on the anemic 2.0L 150hp engine. People would have bought the 6-speed manual on the 2.5L.
love the redesign
The problem with the manuals is that they are offer at the bottom trim, it on the trims that people want. I bet that they would be uptake of manuals if they offer then on better trims
I think it’s because you can’t do features like push button, start stop and auto start on manuals. They’re almost forced to do it. This is a small company, they need to produce vehicles for their largest segment that would be those people who want those features and do not know how to drive manuals
The all-new Crosstrek should sell insanely well in cold-weather states like Utah, Colorado and Alaska. So, I find it a bit ridiculous that Subaru doesn't give people in America the option to choose if they want a heated steering wheel or not. Maybe this omission is a conscious decision on Subaru's part to save money, especially since they know people will still buy this vehicle either way.
The Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid in the US doesn't have a heated steering wheel either. So strange!
Because US is warmer than Canada 😮
I live in northern Canada, my heated steering wheel is called gloves
I don't understand why options vs standard are different in Canada than the US?
Made in different countries.
@Worrywart yes Canada and the United States are two different countries. I'm pretty sure I knew that....
@@dalepritchard3335 I am referring to Japan and the US.
Since I am a hatchback fans and never been a fans of those plastic body claddings, Subaru's move with the 2.5 litre in Impreza 2.5RS is a more appealing model than a Crosstrek. However, by the time I need (never a want! Unlike most SUV buyers these days), a subcompact SUV. Crosstrek 2.5 Onyx should be on the top of my shopping list when comparison shopping a CX-30, HR-V and Corolla Cross.
After seeing your video I have finally found a car. I have been hiding my car from the Kia Boys for 5 months. Thought the Mazda Cx 30 Buick Envista Outlander sport was the one. Cross trek has all the qualities I am looking for and the price is nice, I think its a pretty good looking car. I have a 2016 Kia Soul it has been targeted 4 times by the Kia Boys, my insurance company may cancel or not renew my policy. If all goes well I will have a new ride for my birthday 3/12 and I will be out from under the Kia curse. 🤞
As for the manual I just bought one of the last 2023 and it took me 8 months to get, so I’m not so sure no one buys them. They also don’t make that many compared to auto, so it was easy to sell them all. I think they just wanted to jump the base price from 25-29K Canadian and make more money…. I find the 2.0L has adequate power, not amazing but certainly enough and worth the savings for me, although I’m sure the 2.5L is funner…. The Crosstrek is known as a cheap car anyhow.
Prefer the faux leather on my 2022 Sport. Wish they had kept it.
It seems to be mandatory to profess your love for the manual transmission but then never buy one. 😊
It's just like how everyone complains about trucks being to luxurious and high tech, but guess which models sell the most? It definitely ain't the WT models lol
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I love a stick shift, but the older I get, I like my automatics... just easier!!!
I find it strange that Subaru wants to be cutting-edge with its screen yet uses gauges (and those heated seat buttons!!) straight out of the 90s. I wish their interiors were a little more cohesive.
I have a 2023 crosstrek premium with a 6 speed transmission and it is the last new crosstrek I will buy unless they bring back the manual.
Then you're done buying
Spare tire is great, but only for a short time if you’re having problems, finding a place to fix your flat and you have to drive more miles you could ruin your differential… Because of all the tires not being the same when using a spare, it’s always good to go buy another tire That fits all the other tires instead of using a spare
I noticed the driver took his eyes off the road to use any touch-screen functions. How you like doing that? Do you like reading the screens instead of reaching for a few knobs? Do you find reading your car is beneficial to safe driving? And no matter how safe YOU think YOU are, how many cars come at you, every drive? I am hoping the rumors finally come true: in 2025 and beyond, car makers will opt for more knobs and less video-screen tech.
I drive the WRX with a manual and the same screen and it honestly is not a big deal and you get used to it
Would the claim about reducing head bobbing with the under seat airbag perhaps be referring to the (violent) head bobbing that occurs during a collision? I can how raising the seat with an airbag during a collision might allow for more control of bodily movements.
I bought the Premium with option 14 in the US. For the life of me, I can't figure out how to turn on the mirror defroster and heated steering wheel.
Also... Does computerized screen have a microphone that you can talk and and say turn down the heat or change this or that or take me to home or take me to such-and-such store?
Yes.
How bright are the headlights? I heard earlier years do not have very bright headlights. Thank you!
my wife next car and off course with bigger engine, door, great review as always, cheers V!
Hey Zack & Andrea, just love your videos, keep 'em coming! One small question though, did Subaru remove totally the front view camera for the 2024 Crosstrek? I have an Outdoor and I don't think its Wilderness has it either? 🤔
0:51 Dime sized brake lights! So now when you put a bike carrier and bike on the back of your car, your brake lights are probably going to be blocked.
Did you say 18" wheel is optional? Isn't that a standard size for onyx?
Great video. Pricing was wrong though, in Canada the Crosstrek Limited is 39,711.25+ tax not 36,995. So this bags the question shouldn't a user just get an Outback Limited which starts at 40,995 for a 23. I am sure a 24 will go up but the question remains , how much when compared to 3000 on the Crosstrek. Or just wait for 2025 when a new model for the Outback will be released. This will likely be some form of hybrid.
The higher number includes freight and PDI, we quoted MSRP
2024 Onxy 2.5L Crosstrek ordered a few months ago. Hope it comes in the next few months. My 2016 Tucson has one of the faulty Theta II engines that Hyundai expect me to pay to replace (they will supply the engine block but I gotta pay $5500 labor).
NEVER buying another Hyundai again unless they pay the complete cost - may never buy another again anyway
Interesting people aren’t buying the manual? They’ve sold out last two years, the only way I could have got one was to order. The dealers don’t seem to bring in the manual. That said I only wanted the manual because it could be towed behind an RV. I thought they discontinued manual to put eyesight across the entire line.
Only 1.7% of people buy a manual transmission in North America with some of the more popular choices being the WRX, GTI and Golf R. Although this number is up from 2020 where it reached an all time low at 0.9%
Back in the day, you got a manual because it provided better performance and better fuel economy. Nowadays it's the opposite, and as car company try to meet government emission standard, the auto provides the most fuel mileage, especially CVTs. Also, manuals seem to only be offered in the base trim. I would love to get the 2.5L with a manual
@@andreaspencer9813 that may reflect cars sold, but I wonder if more were available more would sell? As indicated by low availability in 2020, slightly better availability now.
@@jaywhy2016 Agreed, I personally think the auto is a better car in virtually every way, fuel economy, drivability and tech assistance. Plus it keeps their costs down by offering only one trans, but doesn’t meet my requirements. This leaves Jeep wrangler as the only sub 4500lb 4 down towable.
@@davebennett3415 Could be, who is to know, those are the stats for the past few years of vehicles sold. Interestingly enough, Ford eliminated the manual transmission on the Mustang Ecoboost turbocharged 2.3L 4-cylinder with 315 horsepower for the 2024 model year. They said it's due to lack of sales. It's kind of a shame because not only is it a great engine but it's the most affordable model.
I love my 21 sport, definitely get the 2.5l
I'm liking The Crosstrek and +1 on 2.5 L engine.......while merging into traffic it's doubtful someone would be wishing they got the 2.0L slug. 😊. The black wheel design doesn't fit the Crosstrek ethos in my opinion.
I have a 2021 outdoor model. Great car - I like how much interior space there is. But the trunk is just too tiny. And they made it even smaller this year?
If you want more interior space then go with the Forester
i love the 2024 onyx model (good value proposition with 2.5 engine), but really unsure about the fogs with yellow style ? is there a way to change the color with aftermarket or even OEM ? I dont see myself upgrading to the limited version (+3K$) for just avoiding the awful yellow fogs ?
Safety ratings plummeted on all Subaru 2024 non base models with the addition of the massive touch screen being placed in them. 😢
Subaru canceled my brother-in-laws order for a new Forester recently. Why show cars people can’t purchase or is it only the Forester that aren’t available?
Sounds like BS to me. Someone isn't telling all of the story.....
It’s crazy how someone in BC manages to get their hands on the Crosstrek 2024 so quick. I ordered Touring trim 2 months ago and I’m still waiting for them…
This was an event hosted by Subaru Canada.
One issue is 2.5 comes with the thermo control valve. That's been causing issues
Crosstrek is off our list if the hybrid is gone. Too bad. It was at the top of out list.
This cars looks good on paper, unfortunately Subaru still lacks in the reliability department. Even if they are over their issue of head gasket in the past, their boxer engines don;t last that long, if we tie that with a CVT and is a disaster. Also looks like the one suffering with more issues are the ones made in USA
Proof? Or just BS opinion?
I believe there is a pricing error. The onyx in Canada is $36,579.
its a great car but i got a rav4 for the same price
Used RAV4
Which trim is this one? Sport? Preimuim? Every video is a mystery about which trim you are sampling.
No heated steering wheel in the US? No thanks
Now to add the HK sound system to the Onyx like the Outback
Hello Zack, Andrea, always enjoy your reviews. Would you be so kind to add comments on the vehicles AWD systems as they are not all created equal. Toyota, Mazda, Subaru all use a different approach to AWD systems and therefore when comparing vehicles it should be something you address as part of your SUV reviews. I’ll be in the market looking for a new SUV shortly and the type of AWD system will be part of my decision process. Thank you so much, keep up the good work.
Nothing beats Subaru's symmetrical full time all wheel drive!!!!!
I've had other vehicles with front drive until 4wd is needed, and I can really feel that delay in traction especially in wintertime
The Acura SHAWD and Honda’s version with torque vectoring included is the benchmark. Subarus is definitely better than most on demand systems.