Problems already? 2020 Ford F-150 2.7L EcoBoost 30-Day Owner Update
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2020
- In this video, we interview Brian Finn who just purchased a 2020 Ford F150 2.7L EcoBoost 30 days ago. We talk about why he purchased it, what issues he has had and how the fuel economy is doing on the small F150 2.7L EcoBoost engine.
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Here is a 6-month update with a much different story on the truck: czcams.com/video/inWhdWRtjBE/video.html
That`s 20 minutes of my life I will never get back.
I'll make up for it. Got lots of good content coming!
It was painful.
J Maier
I agree. The guy being interviewed is a tool. I'd hate to go on a road trip with him all hopped on coffee. He'd be annoying asf complaining about every little insignificant thing wrong with everything! He sounds like a person that's never satisfied and expects nothing in life to go wrong.
@@Pickuptrucktalk
You do have some good content but change the name. Its redundant. A pickup is the same thing as a truck.
@@Sig721Tau long story. Truck and pickup are different things in the country as well.
So I watched a 21-minute video waiting to hear if there were mechanical issues but all I saw was a non mechanically inclined white dude crying that he's not getting Honda civic hwy mpg
What’s with the white dude comment ?
Just my thought and opinion...if your buying a truck for fuel economy your buying the wrong vehicle.
my thoughts exactly.. im tired of these cry babys buying full size trucks and complaining bout mpg and tire noise
I think it's possible to want a truck, and want to have the best gas (truck) mileage. That goes to towing range and for simply not going broke at the gas station.
@@skywalker2852 then you better have big wallet for repair.
My 5.3 Silverado has AVERAGED not instant but has AVERAGED 24 to 26 MPG with the cruise control set at 72 to 74 MPH multiple times!
Towing my two quad's I average 18.7 to 19 MPG..
Yes you can have a truck and good fuel economy!!!
If all you are worried about is mpg, buy a bicycle
2019 2.7L scab 4x4 here with 13k mikes and no issues. Great truck!
Patience cupcake - problems will arrive!
@@brettvicknair9512 Thank you for your enlightening comment!
@@yulbrenner You welcome!
2016 2.7 50,000 miles. No problems. Love it
@@brettvicknair9512 I know someone with 150k on their 2017 2.7. So far, no major issue.
I have a 2016 same package STX 2.7L Crew with 52K so far NO issues at all., I live in Puerto Rico roads not so good and basically summer all year.. just have the doors recalls done and one rear axle seal replaced...cross finger still going strong... extra mega happy as how it has been since new..
Puerto Rico is very mountainous and warm, what is your MPG like there?
@@HotHeadCJ hi...yes our GEO is variable I average city around 16 to 19 ...highway 21 to 23 ball park....but as here mostly city metro driving unless you go on a trip out of metro area ( then highway miles) my ""regular"" MPG is in the 19teens.
After owning three f-150's I've been on the forums a lot. Or as I like to call it, the f150 owners support group.
LOL @ "f150 owners support group." Forums have their time and place, but they are to be taken with a grain of salt for sure.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I think forums are invaluable communication that owners would not normally have access to.
sthier24 and they can be. What I mean to say is for every problem on a forum, realize their are many more satisfied owners. Sometimes forum problems can lead you to believe defects exist more than they truly do.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Exactly....
@Boco LWN that is why I pay zero attention to any comments I will roll the dice and cross my fingers and so far I cant complain, and your comment goes for all brands including toyota
My 2018 2.7l screw f150 has been flawless for 23000 miles and 2 years. Love it!
23,000 in two years?🤣
I do 50,000+ a year.
Yup
23k miles ,,LOL,,,get back with us when it hits 223k miles- your story will be different!
2020 Freightliner Cascadia 100000 miles in 3 months no problems.
The guy that keeps talking and talking about nothing is difficult to watch. Couldn't make it 5 minutes.
He is not very educated on the trucks either. He didn't even know base XL , or STX.
You're right about the 2.7...it surprised me It's truly frisky. I run 93 octane (I live in OHIO). I'm getting better fuel efficiency than you. Perfectly happy with it. No issues
My 2019 2.7L has been extremely impressive for the year I owned it. My son bought a 2019 2.7L 6 months later and has double the miles and zero issues.
My dads 2.7 is a 2019 also. STX. He loves it
What is your high way average MPG???
I own a 2019 2.7 as well. Has 0 issues. Own a 2015 3.5 ecoboost. Also no issues.
Both trucks do a majority city driving and the 2.7 says it's getting 18.9. The 3.5 says 18.7 mpg. Highway I usually get 22 with both trucks.
My 5.3 silverado AVERAGES 22 to 24 MPG, has 116,000 trouble free miles and I off road often..
The original tires lasted 86,000 miles..
exactly. there is nothing wrong with the 2.7
This guy definitely is “that guy”
right...
lol
As soon as he said california, the male Karen vibes made sense.
Exactly lol
Yup
God bless America when a man that doesn’t need a pick up truck drives 80 miles a day and buys a truck bitching about the mpg,s . By the way this is from a guy driving in an F450 1k miles a week
This guy is that customer that nobody wants.
😂
yes ouin ouin ouin i feel sorry for his familly
😂
Yes but better to be that than the customer everyone does want.
Let me save the rest of you the trouble of watching this video. He had a camera issue taken care of by Ford, an issue with the app as if any of these apps are worth a crap anyway, and an issue with the dash which for replace and took care. That’s all. Don’t waste your time watching.
I own a 2018 F150, 2.7 FX4, 3.55 rear end. Have owned it 2.5 years, absolutely no problems. My opinion is the Ford app is very good and the sync 3 is a excellent infotainment system.
My company has had 4 of these 2.7 eco boost trucks and none of the four have ever had a single problem. All but one of these trucks had over 80k miles. The truck I drove averaged almost 21 mpg over 110k. I don’t care for the truck seating position vs. a car so I switched to a car for this cycle, but the f150s have been great in our fleet.
I have a this engine in a 2020 with and have never gotten over 18 mpg. Ever. Back to dealer 3 times with only 3k miles ,water filling the passenger floor. Glad you have had good luck
I own a family business and have two personal F150s and a small fleet of F150s and a few larger trucks. I have been extremely happy with my personal and commercial Ford trucks. My one personal F150 Ecoboost will soon be replaced with a Powerboost and the commercial fleet gets circulated when the accountant says it's time. Commercially, we look at GMC, Ford or Ram. I don't care which of them we go with for the firm. They've all been good dependable trucks and they get beat on, day in and day out by lugs who don't own them.
I actually like the Ford app, pretty cool to be able to see mileage, oil life, tire pressure etc before even getting in the car.
Dash issue is well known, and most folks don't care, but you can get it replaced if you want.
My 2.7 xlt 4x4 supercrew gets about 19 in the city and 23 or 24 on the high way.
I have a 2019 Ford F-150 xlt302 package with 3.5l echo boost 10 months old 4x4 with 20 “ wheels. On highway at 80 miles per hour averaging over 20 miles per hour around town 17-18 mpg. Transmission has smithed out and is wonderful. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned. Probably our 15th f series and the best yet. The 3.5l eco boost is fast.
I have the same truck 18" wheel package though....yep...amazing mpg...power is incredible....best truck on the market for the value.
Love it.
I got my 2019 F150 2.7 back in February. I’m at 30k miles now, averaging 24 mpg @70mph and I’m in Florida is hot too. I only been to the dealer for oil changes.
me too i think this are like those ones agains ecoboost engines because they only want the v8
The 2.7 Ecoboost is more reliable than the 3.5 and both eco engines are great IF you don't neglect preventive maintenance, which is always the key to long term reliability.
Lol. I have a friend like him. No joke, it takes him twenty minutes to order a pizza. He literally tries to rationalize the toppings.
You are lucky. I have a wife that does that.
I’ve been in the automotive repair industry for 30 years and my experience is that the people that stay balls deep in debt on vehicles constantly are rarely ever happy with their purchases. Some folks just are beyond being satisfied with anything.
Read a book recently about working with money. It said no matter how much money you have to buy whatever you'll eventually get bored or tired of it and move onto the next material possession and never have true happiness as opposed to someone who uses that money of experiences even more so if they're going those experiences with friends or family
Prevost, this is so so True!!
I have a 2018 f150 5.0 just hit 40k miles I’m getting like 20 mpg hwy everything good so far I love it!
Most mechanics say the 5.0 is best . My 2011 F150 with the 5.0 just crossed 100k and runs like its new.
@@twoweary 5.0 is nice. 10 speed trani kinda sucks for stop and go daily driving but its a beast when flooring it and passing on highway.
I would LOVE to see you continue with this formal of video reviews on people who purchased vehicles. Say 1 and 6 month updates. I cruise all the different forums for EXACTLY what you just did with this video. This is wayyy nicer to hear from you and a current new owner. You are onto something here that nobody else is doing!! Great Niche!! P.s. I would love to see a video like this after 30 or 60 days with a GMC 3.0l Duramax 1500 that you compared the Honda Ridgeline to in your last video :)
I have my F150 2020 from June to now and I don't have any issues jet....Awesome Truck!
Once I heard he was from California, I knew nothing good would come from this video.
Bro not fair I’m from California. This guys middle name must be karen.
I agree that explains he has two Toyota trucks
You got that right!!
@@lew6492 He bought a Ford.
@@ajfam871 same bro yup lol
Just bought a 2020 4x4 Tundra. I’ve done 2 pump to pump easy open road driving nothing over 65 mph and I’ve achieved 18.4 and 19.2. Now when I get into it I’m down to around 16 in a hurry. My 07 Tundra i traded in on this truck got decent mileage especially after getting some miles on it. (250k miles and only replaced the starter) Not sure why so many people dislike the Tundra? I’ve been in new Fords Chevys and Rams and besides the Ram I don’t feel the ride quality is any worse on my Tundra. I really like my 2020 and it’s definitely a different ride overall then my 07. Has plenty of power imo and is plenty techy for me. And I like the assurance when I’m hunting or fishing in the middle of nowhere I can count on my truck getting there and me back home.
If I drive my 2.7 under 65 I get the EPA mileage of 23-24. At 75 it's more like 20, which is to be expected. And though not trouble free my Fords have never left me stranded in 20 years of driving them. A 4Runner did, though. Twice. Go figure. The biggest problem I have with Tundras is the real world payload ratings...most 4x4 crew cabs are around 1200 pounds or less. And crash test scores are worst in class, that's important to me in a vehicle I haul my family around in.
@@plmn93 when the tundra came out it was best in class in crash tests, but vehicles have really gotten good over the last few years, the tundra just happens to be the oldest design. None of these vehicles are unsafe by any means though. Ford is the leader now. But go back and look at the 2001 tundra vs the 2001 f150. Its scary how bad the f150 and ram did. The 01 tundra mopped the floor with everyone on the crash tests.nit was the only truck that the cab didn't buckle on the offset test and the only one that the door could be opened, but that goes to show how far everyone has come since then. There's really no unsage pickups in today's world. Im willing to bet the redesigned 2022 tundra will be the truck to beat and then the big 3 will step it up, and in the end we the customers win.
rochab77 you’re exactly right. Back in 07 when I bought my first Tundra it blew by the domestic competition in almost every way. There would be comments you don’t need all that power in a 1/2 ton truck and so on. I feel the 07 Tundra took the competition by surprise and really made them step up their game. And yes it is now outdated to a degree but still by far the most reliable truck you can buy IMO. I suspect the 2022 will shake the 1/2 ton market again. But the competition is good for the consumer. I just don’t quite understand how some consumers won’t give the Tundra a chance especially after having so many bad experiences with their domestic truck.
@@kross1261 people in the pickup segment are brand loyalist. I love the tundra myself, especially the engine. No direct injection or cylinder deactivation crap. Just an honest v8 that makes its max torque at a lower rom than any other v8 in a half ton. And for those griping about tech, the only thing really missing is a 360 degree camera. It has lazer guided cruise control and toyota safety sense with autonomous braking standard, which some of the competitors do not even offer. You have GPS, never, a jbl sound system option, heated and cooled seats available and a huge back seat in the crew max, the largest brakes in a half ton, the only half ton with. 10.5 inch rear end and the only one with a 4.30 rear end. The Aisin 6 speed auto is bulletproof and never has any hiccups shifting, and doesn't gear hunt. It always kicks down when I want it to. Definitely thw best programming of any transmission I've driven in a pickup. People just don't like Japanese, amd some people are just flat out gullible amd have know knowledge or common sense. People say "oh my 2 year old sucj and such has 60,000 miles and no problems. Well, its only 2 years old. Time tells more than mileage. You could buy a 20 year old car with only 25,000 miles and I guarantee youll have more problems than you will on a 2 year old vehicle with 75,000 miles because things age amd materials degrade, especially plastics. I love the Tundra, but I bought a titan xd for the cummins and the extra towing stability because thw truck weighs as much as some 3/4 ton trucks and the job I bought it for would require hauking heavy cement heads. But if I were looking for a half ton I'd have gotten the tundra hands down. Where I worked prior qe had alot of f150s, some rams and some tundras. The guys hated thw tundras because they weren't made by the big 3, so they drove the shit put of them. They were surprised how well they held up. In fact, the tundras were the onlynhalf tons that never had to go to the dealer for any problems. Couldn't say the same for the others.
I’ve never had any trouble with my 2003 F-150 but I have been planning to get a new truck within the next couple of years. I love the look of the Ram but don’t trust them. My cousin has a Nissan and its reputation with shitty transmissions eliminate them.Chevys don’t impress me with looks or drivetrain. Toyota’s have an excellent reputation for reliability but I don’t like the look of them and they don’t seem to discount like the big 3 will.
I will keep watching reviews but if I were buying today, it would be an F-150 with the 5.0 V8.
Brian, brought up.subjects that I will be looking out for when I purchase my new F150. One man, really makes a difference‼
Ive got a 2019 F150 FX4 Lariat screw fully loaded 11,000 miles with Zero issues! I have homes in So Cal and Arizona lots of heat ZERO issues, Best truck I have ever had
FYI, still driving my 08' Tundra with 230K on it. No major problems over the years.
Just the frame rust
Walker Pattrrson the whole truck is made in America is it not?
@@hishamhaidar6286 NOPE!
I am averaging over 18 MPG lifetime on my 2.7. My average in the summer is over 20. That's a 4x4 crew cab. My old 5.4 averaged 14. Hard to complain about that.
Until the turbos go and cost you more to replace than the fuel you saved. If people understood basic ROI then there would be no market for these motors.
@@casualobserver2997 Except the Ecoboost aren't any less reliable than the 5.0 or Ram's 5.7. And they offer much better low end torque for doing truck stuff. It's not all about ROI. It's comical, all the people who claim turbo failures are inevitable.
@@plmn93 What is comical is all the comments about how well a truck is supposedly doing after 20k miles. That is nothing. I keep my trucks a long time and I expect at least a couple hundred thousand miles without major issues on a truck, don't do payments, and buy to keep. I just don't see any direct injection turbo powered undersized motors being able to deliver long term, rather I feel they are built more for the consumer that trades in every few years. To each their own. As long as I can still get the V8 I won't complain.
@@casualobserver2997 Good luck with that. If you think today's V8s aren't technologically advanced, pushing the limits of performance and economy, and expensive to repair, you're mistaken.
@@plmn93 My newest truck is 20 years old, I'll just keep it, thanks.
I bought a brand new 2018 ford f150 eco boost 3.5 January 2018. Long story short 35,800 miles cam phasers gone changed under warranty. Got the truck back Approximately 38,000 miles truck would stall at stop signs and red lights one time I was traveling approximately 65 miles an hour truck just stopped running. Took in for repair. Seven weeks later got truck back turned out it was a corroded negative ground cable thank god for extended warranty. 59,800 miles truck is scheduled for repair. Second set of phasers again. Mobile one full synthetic oil change at dealership every 3,000 miles. This is my third F150 I havent even started on what was wrong with them.
My 2020 2.7 seems to do worse in the cold, but not by much. My best was 28.6 at a cruise controlled 65 mph with a light tail wind. Love that engine.
WOW!! great honest review, also good he is comparing a Toyota with Ford so thats interesting for me because I had Toyota and planning on driving a Ford. Thanks Tim as always great job and thanks Bryan!! very helpful review.
2020 GMC AT4 w/6.2 here. Absolutely no issues and bought the truck 9 months ago. Getting 17 combined and cannot complain. 6.2 is best engine for a half ton currently. This guy is tough to listen to btw
I would have to agree with you. He loves to tell a BIG STORY and hell if he can help someone make some money, knock yourself out. I challenged myself to listen to the whole video........... my god, that's 20 minutes of time I'll never get back
Has it blew up yet? DOD engines are not
Known for their reliability, it’s a lot of power but it is NOT reliable on the new models. Take a look at the parking lot for service and you’ll see a few trucks sitting there without a motor waiting for new ones.
@@robmd3851 I’m at 25k miles. I’ve put an S&B cold air intake and MBRP exhaust. Truck has still be flawless. I have heard about the the lifter issues going around luckily mine hasn’t/wasn’t effected 🤞🏼. Only time will tell but I’m a satisfied owner.
@@robmd3851 your opinion is not known for reliability..
Damn good info Tim. Your channel is about the only place to get this stuff. Keep it up buddy!
I love his comment about Scotty “tells the truth about everything, but tells you truth about nothing”. Very true!
Just had my 2018 dash replaced. No issues and you can see the difference between dash’s . It’s thicker and beefier than the original. I have 2.7L and runs like a champ. At 70 mph I get 25 mpg with a big cap on the back. And if I use 93 Octane I can feel the difference. And engine is quiet as a mouse humming down the road. I am a very happy camper and the engine is solid! Peace
I learned the hard way, never ever buy a new truck! Wait 2-3 years until the manufacturer irons out the bugs!
well the 2.7 is 5 years old and so is the body... we are aware some of our cameras had issues aswell.
@@GhostlyGhille is that something that has mostly been resolved? I’m pretty close to buying one, but if I start having problems I’m not gonna be fun to deal with
@@dalstar925 As far as we know it seemed batch during early covid. I haven't seen it in any of our newer trucks and of course we took care of all customers on repairs.
or like ford, change the design before the problems continue
I have the 2021 super cab 2.7 ecoboost. I only use Mobil 1 full synthetic and change it myself every 5k miles. I have already 26k miles my lifetime average is 25.0 MPG. I reset the trip odometer at every oil change. It now reads 25.7 MPG. No issues at all. I do at least 70% highway driving and always on eco mode. Boat towing just 300 miles so far.
I have a 2019 F150 FX4 w/2.7 Ecoboost. I have 5200 miles so far, changed the oil at 3000 miles. So far had a recall and SB performed, some other cosmetic issues. Had a new hood installed as the paint and clearcoat was coming off. No engine issues and current all city driving is 21.4mpg...absolutely amazing fuel milage.
I bought a 2020 f150 xl extended cab with the 2.7 . So far no problems knock on wood . It doesn't really matter what you own everbodies mileage will vary depending if you put your foot into it or not . First big truck I've owned . Love it . My dealership has always done me right never any issues
First rule to make your Car long life.
In the morning Start your Car and don’t run until 10-15 minutes on. When you drive don’t accelerate hard but soft with Detachment except on the Hill or highway, and the last change the Oil every 3 months.
@@dorianbuciza4101 i grew up in a time when you warmed up your car no matter if was cold outside or not . Secondly i always get my oil changed on time . And when i come home from work i sit and let my turbos cool down dont have a turbo timer but i count out 30 or forty seconds before i shut it off
@@marklemcke3321 warming the Car in the morning is very important, because you give time to Oil to circulate.
@@dorianbuciza4101 oh i know lol i drove a 67 vw bug for years had to warm that thing up all the time lol
@@marklemcke3321 of course you know, i see you got much experience, 2 months ago i buy my first Truck Ford F150 XL Lariat with financial. I got in plan to start working for my self as a painter. Is the only way to get away from the poverty of the salary working for others. I have just 3 years in USA 🇺🇸 I’m from Albania. Are you American Sir ?
Hopefully my f150 will keep going strong. 👍
Great interview Brian is very informative and entertaining! Wear the hat it has power!!
have a 2016 2.7 f150. great truck. great gas mileage. no issues. 65K miles.
Shame you're experiencing these issues... I have a 2019 STX Supercab 2wd and had zero issues. I drive mostly highway and average close to the 26 on the trip computer which is usually about 1/2 to 3/4 over the actual, so a little over 25. I do live in rural coastal flat lands, where most highways are 55 mph. So, most of my driving is around 60. If I push it to 70 or above, I can watch the MPG computer drop quickly to the 23-24. So, I think anything over 65 is probably where the 2.7 (even with turbos) has to really work hard to push a giant brick through the air. At 70+ the trans will shift down to 7th or 8th to maintain that speed. Overall, I've been happy- hope your experience improves!
Hell. A Tundra would get 20 if you drove 60 everywhere.
In the Rockies at elevation and 85 mph, good luck getting over 17 mpg in any pickup.
My 2018 F150 STX pretty much the same. I drive on the highway at 77 mph. No problems at all.
@bretc
If your truck is downshifting at 70+ you must be going up some decent sized hills.
I went on a 3000 mi trip this spring (‘18 supercrew, 2.7,3.55) and at 74 -75 mph I would get 24-25+ mpg consistently, some hilly areas, some flat. I actually got a solid 26 mpg at 78+ mph from Tulsa to Houston. Seems like it gets better mpg after using 3-4 tanks of gas, and all my figures were hand calculated, the lie-o-meter on the dash isn’t that accurate
I am VERY GLAD I have a good, solid 2012 F150. Between the new prices and shit quality, I have fallen in love with my old ford all over again. Washing, waxing, preventive maintenance.... she's being treated like the last truck I'll ever own.
I love my 2016 3.5 ecoboost F150 4X4 crew cab. 38,000 miles and no problems. I did put a catch can on it for the direct injection. I put my foot in it and average 17mpg and 22 Hwy. The ride is smooth and I pull a 32 ft rv trailer. I live in hot Texas.No rattles.I also got the trailering package. 10mpg pulling the 8,000 pound trailer . Great truck. Get my oil changed at my a Ford dealer. I like my dealer .
Bought a 22 F150 with the 2.7 a year ago. Only truck I have ever bought that gets better gas mileage than the sticker. On back roads at 65 mph get in the high 20s. One year and 17,000 miles later, I'm happy as can be!😀
19’ f150 XLT 4x4 2.7 with 3.55. Getting 22mpg in a mountainous area thats 2200ft elevation. Hot summers and cold winters with zero issues. 16k so far. Tuned and S&B air intake running 94 octane. Only complaint is maybe every few drives in the cold winter I would get a rough shift from like 1-3. Super happy after letting go of my 19’ TRD tacoma which was getting 17mpg same driving.
I have a 2019 ranger and I can tell you the ranger is faster and better on gas then the tacoma you made a wish choice getting away from toyota.
I looked at the ranger too but went with the bigger f150 for a few bucks more a month. Great truck! Its a shame about the Tacoma, wicked looking truck but everything else about it was “meh”.
Own a 2017 F150. Just hit 100K KM or 60K miles no issues only oil changes every 8000 KM. On 2nd set of tires now.
I got F150 2016 with a 5.0 V-8 with 104,000 miles and I just change oil and I love it no problems so far Great truck
I've had my 2020 F150 STX 4x4 2.7l ecoboost supercrew for less then 30 days here in Phoenix. I'm averaging 21 mpg combined and the transmission temp is usually 197° (its hot here) and the temp climbed to 205° while towing. Two days ago my rear camera was dark and fuzzy and then went blank with the same message. After a restart the camera is working but after seeing this video I'll contact the dealer. Thanks for the video.
Need an interview like this about the 19-20 Silverado 1500. Im sure they’re complaining about that 2.7 turbo. Love the channel. 👍🏼
A friend of mine just leased one of those trucks. He was hesitant to get a Silverado with that engine but the price was right for him. He actually likes it so far. I went for a ride and I gotta say it's peppy and runs smooth. Not as fast as the Ford 2.7 but decent. Time will tell how it holds up.
The 2.7 GM turbo engine is actually very reliable so far. Less moving parts
@@MrAbword It may turn out to be a very reliable engine. To new to say at this point. As far as less moving parts, not really. Have you watched any videos on it? It's pretty complicated and full of technology.
You tested all the lame engines. A 3.6 in a ram?? A 4 cylinder silverado? I get fuel economy but damn. The new titan is sweet but we understand it was too much meat for you
I have a 2015 F150 Lariat with 2.7 ecoboost. Love the truck and no issues at almost 70,000 miles.
I just bought a 2020 F150 STX 4x4. Let me help with a quick summary
1) Camera is a common failure with a massive recall. Mine was broken day 1. 10 days is an amazing turn around. I’m still waiting a month later.
2) MPG is at 20 mpg average, sticker is BS
3) No dash Issues, but the rubber lip above the glovebox is a small eyesore for warping
Overall it’s a very comfortable big truck. Other than the 3 things he highlighted everything is really good. I’m happy with this big blue truck, especially coming from my 2019 Tacoma.
I have a 2015 xlt 2.7l with 192000+, only had one issue with #6 coil pack. still rocking strong 💯
That's awesome what oil do you use, and at what interval.
@@zx9green791 I take it to the dealership, they use motorcraft 5w-20 semi-synthetic.
I'll buy another one in five!
@@milkman504 i hope not engine requires 5w30
@@fastzenner The 2.7 , especially second gen is solid. In fact , after owning one it is Fords best motor gas. Unless you tow over 6k, the 2.7 is plenty.
I would never want my dash replaced unless I knew exactly who was doing it and trusted them.
They have an easy fix for the dash now, no replacement needed
So my brother and I got 2021 F-150's about 2 days apart from each other (him day before Thanksgiving, me the day after). Both fresh off the carrier to the lot, my brothers showed up that day, mine was still in the back all plastic wrapped. I got a Silver XL Supercrew STX 4x4 with the 2.7 and my brother got the dark blue XLT Supercrew chrome package 2x4 also with the 2.7 in it. I've got about 2k miles on my truck, getting about 24mpg and it's been great so far. My brother's truck had the engine seize up at around 1200 miles. Ford is still trying to figure out what exactly happened, but a breaker bar couldn't turn the crank, at least one spark plug was "disintegrated" as the dealer said and that cylinder was black or burnt looking. But no oil leak or loss from what they could tell. My brother isn't happy, doesn't want the truck back (early indications show Ford likely replacing engine) and would prefer Ford buy it back, or the dealer step up and get him in something else.
Thanks for your honesty , I was going to get f150 2.7L eco boost , but after what I heard from you I’m definitely out of the Ford’s market . I just simply can’t imagine spending around $60 plus for XLT package and have so many problems from the beginning , it’s absolutely unacceptable for me , I have 20 years old Lexus right now with no issues at all , nothing squeaks and my dashboard is in tact without any gaps , and I do live in hot state as well SC . I guess Ford will be Ford . Thanks again for honest feedback !
I think I have the same truck as him, except I have the 3.5L. None of the problems that he has, but I live in Nebraska and don’t have that kind of heat. My daily commute is 4.1 miles each way, and I get about 19 mpg, similar to the 2001 Honda CRV it replaced. I love the truck.
I work at a Ford dealership and we have brand new vehicles on our lot with faulty cameras. Don't know where they're sourcing them from but they have major issues with them.
Probably made in China
Mine was dead off the lot.
I don’t see any issues with this guys explanation / expectation of a new expensive truck, maybe a little long winded but he’s frustrated. I have been searching for months and bouncing in between all of them due to them ALL having issues. I read a lot of people that are ok with spending $40/$50/$60k+ for a truck that frankly isn’t reliable and yet, they are fan boys, oh it’s a truck, just top your oil up, have you seen how much oil a BMW uses, my 2003 Chevy has 300k miles etc. I appreciate this review and thank you for posting, anyone can fast forward or skip but a takes someone else’s dime to tell me everything I want to know.
So... in short, for those who didn’t want to watch, his F-150 had 3 well known, non mechanical issues that were all fixed under warranty with minimal hassle.
Does it still suck? YES, geezus I hate going to the dealer for small crap too. But hey at least it isn’t the engine problem the Nissans are having. I also have a 2020 STX with the 2.7 and I anticipate having these cosmetic issues as well, but that’s what the warranty is for. I bought it for the bulletproof 2.7.
Also, if you check the owners manual, it tells you that the gas mileage won’t level out until after the 1000 mile break in period. You said you were doing hand calculating which is good, because the computer mpg doesn’t factor out idling and such. There’s also an eco mode you can put the truck in, not sure if you were using that. I haven’t hit but 600 miles so far, but am averaging 21.4 according to the flawed computer measurement with mixed driving in normal and sport mode. Mine is a 4x4 as well which will affect it a bit. Once it’s more broken in, I will switch to eco mode and do my own calculations to get a better measurements. The biggest thing I don’t like about mine right now is the 10 speed. It is still in the break in period which I have read is brutal, but man the shifts when coming to a stop are just rough and jerky. It’s getting better slowly but surely, but man it sucks right now. I have hope only because the shifts during acceleration have leveled out and are now butter smooth. Overall it is a great vehicle, small issues aside. Just remember to temper your expectations, 40k is a lot of money, but it’s not that much in today’s market.
what engine problems the nissan are having?
You should compare it with the best: Toyota. Ford will bite the dust big time.
@@Teporame interesting opinion
Tough getting through this video. I have a 2016 Ford 150 XLT. Have had it for 5 years now. Not one issue. My MPG on the highway has hit 30MPG solid highest which is outstanding. That’s running cruise control and not accelerating unnecessary
I have driven dozens of new 2020 trucks many for long distances. I have personally experienced the backup camera issue many times. It was a very common issue as well as the screen freezing after a few hours of driving, not as common but it happens. I recently drove a 2020 Laramie and the truck would not lock the doors at night because it would stay in accessory mode. All of them have their issues lol
Love the video bro!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Have a 18 2.7 bolt ons and a 91 oct tune with 50k miles, hurtin 6.2gmc guys feelings. Still runs good.
I have a 2015 XLT 5 l and I didn’t have any problems until 40,000 miles when I had a rear brake squeak that required replacing the discs. I get 19 mpg on 87 octane since new. Tire wear was excellent. My rear camera cuts out when the outside temp is below 0. I’m thinking of trading for a 2020 with a 5.0.
That camera will be the same unit in either an eco or five oh😳
This is the type of guy who purposely looks foe things to complain about.
Next time, he should research wkat he's buying and look at all the pros and cons.
I have a 2018 f150 and I absolutely love it. Despite any flaws.
Thanks for the video Tim!
Be glad Ford fixed your issues! I had terrible problems getting two different vehicles repaired under warranty and even was called a liar by a factory rep. The dealers agreed with me but the corporate powers wouldn't cooperate! No more Fords in my life!
I'd like to hear both sides of the story
I think one of the worst things car enthusiasts can do is join a car forum. I was reading about somebody’s AC hose leaking onto their passenger footwell. The next day, I spent an hour checking for wet carpet (there was none). Next, someone complained about the steering wheel showing premature wear. I started to notice that my steering wheel looked a bit... worn. I took it to the dealer and demanded that they replace my 2 year old steering wheel (which they did... my SA is awesome). Next, people complained about sunroof rattle and talked about the need to lube the seals. I ended up lubing the sunroof seals on all my cars. The car forums are great to talk and banter, but man... they are full of people with car problems.
Yes that's what forums are for. But they all have forums and they all are fun of problems. Cars and trucks are not perfect. NONE OF THEM!!
They're full of these guys......
That’s why I bought a Titan, yeah it’s not a popular truck but it’ll be around for 20 years and the “Big 3” will have a couple transmissions and multiple engine issues by that time.
You clearly didn’t research the Titan before you bought it, and hopefully yours is a 2020. That truck has had lots of problems over the years, to include cylinder scoring for the last couple of years, forcing Nissan to replace the motors. Their newest Pro-4X is pretty nice, though. I dig it.
Nissan in general is far less reliable than any American brand. The new Titans aren't bad though. The old frontiers are good too. Anything else made by nissan is total junk.
Maybe dealers want you to come in more often, so issues are fabricated. 2018 F150 crew cab alt 4x4 5.0 owner here. After 2 years of ownership, battery replaced, back up sensor replaced, oil consumption TSB performed, new dipstick, seat belt recall, 1 cylinder coil replaced, all done under warranty. Hopefully all the bugs are worked out, only have 2000 miles before warranty expires, at least have more time for drivetrain warranty. Still love my truck. Great interview, your viewer is quite eloquent.
Hopefully you bought extended warranty. My neighbor found fast use of extended warranty when factory warranty expires and he ended up with engine repairs, over $5k in repairs. By the way, he changes oil every 3k miles. But fuel dilution, make oil go bad fast.
If its useing oil , dump it now. It will only get worse. Mine also needed cam phasers and chains at 50k miles.
As a ford technician, I have a 2015 f150 2.7l. My dash also has small warps. I rather leave with the warps than pull my dash. You cant even notice it. I always use 91 octane, my 2.7 gets super sluggish on 87 octane when its over 90°.
I had the exact same problem with the rear camera. It started flickering and then showed a rainbow colored grainy screen before finally saying “call dealership.” I crawled under the truck and unplugged it and plugged it back in and it’s worked fine ever since.
It’s hot here in Texas, so maybe it is heat related.
I have a 2020 f150 stx 2.7 and it’s been great so far. I would not even considering owning a gm product.
Backup cameras are going out on the F-150 and F250s right now. They are on backorder. So far my 2020 hasn’t had the issue.
I use the App all the time and it works pretty darn good.
My rear view camera in my 2020 F-150 2.7 failed at 64 miles! Ford said the same thing about mine, three weeks to get it!
I have the same truck but it's a 2018. I get 22 average, it's really hard to keep my foot out of it. No issues after 2 years
This guy didnt do any research on this Truck, every thing hes mentioned is well known, goes back several years.
He definitely is a diva.
Respectfully, I found out the hard way on my job recently, that to throw shade on anyone (especially someone who is successful at what they do) is NOT to way to get ahead. I implied in an email that my co-workers where not doing their jobs well. I stated that so that I would look good and be considered for a promotion. My supervisor replied that only he and his manager are in a position to evaluate the job performance of the people reporting to them, not ME. So if anyone wants to be successful at being a CZcams car guy, do the best you can and provide the content that viewers want to watch. Don’t throw shade at other channels. With all due respect.
Amen
WHAT!! WHAT!! 😂. . I’ll keep my 2012 F-150 FX with 5.0.
2013 here I’m keeping it 👍🏻
Keeping my 2013 5.0, 3.55 rear end 4x4 lariat. Stock tires my driving is 80% city I'd say. Not a heavy foot at all in terms of my 14.3 mpg. That's by hand. Not computer. What mpg are you guys getting? Just wondering.
@Greg B 74,000
I have a 2016 2.7l Ecoboost F150 Super Cab XLT with 45K miles and it has been flawless. It tows my 5000# camper even in the mountains without a problem. With that said my mpg while towing drops to around 10 mpg however in town I get 17 mpg and 20 mpg on the highway.
Well ya thanks to the turbo forcing more air into the engine its gonna run better than a five oh in higher altitudes.
@@Spazticspaz it’s always gonna run better than a five oh no matter what altitude
I'm getting 30mpg in mine. 1450-1500km per tank all the time 9.0 for 1000's of kms at best and 9.5 worst city and hwy. Add in the reserve and 1500 plus all the time
I had a 2016 XL SCAB 2.7. Got it in the fall, and winter came a long and when near 0F it sometimes wouldn't start after sitting overnight. Battery was good, but it didn't even try to start, no click no anything. Trying to start it several times (like sometimes 20+ attempts) it would then all of a sudden come to life and start like there was never a problem. No one could figure it out, left it at the dealership for nearly a month while they looked at it. After a few more weeks of it occasionally happening (it would always eventually start on its own), the weather started to warm and it never happened again throughout the spring, summer, and even the following winter where it fell below 0 many times.
Everyone's best guess was the starter solenoid had moisture in it and was freezing the contactor in place, but after several attempts, the solenoid coil windings was heating up enough to melt the ice and it would start.
In any case, I wanted more features so I traded it in for a 2018 crew cab XLT with another 2.7. The XL had nothing, just AC and power windows. 40k miles on the 2018 and no issues yet.
Sorry bout ur luck. My F150 2.7 does everything I expected (easily). More so actually. It shocked me from such small engine. Happy with it
Yeah a Nissan isn't a good enough truck for him, but here's my 17 problems I've had in 1 month with my f150.
Nissan Titan is a very underrated truck with an amazing 400 HP engine.
Still one of the thirstiest trucks.
We went looking for a end of year 2017 f150 5.0 but only found 2 over a 3 state area and the dealers wouldn't part with them they tried pushing the ecoboost on us.I said no thanks , bought a 4wd titan for 6k less then the same equip ford and it's been a awesome truck with zero problems . The ford sales guys didn't laugh when I told him turbos are for diesels.
I think all the manufacturers make a pretty good truck these days. I have a 2017 Titan, saved 20 grand by buying it 2 years old and it's still under warranty for 2 more years. Have had zero problems and tow a 27 foot travel trailer. The thought that Titans (actually made in America) aren't as good or capable is a myth the big 3 want you believe. I just averaged 19.5 mpg going 200 miles down the coast and back home in Washington, ill take 1 or 2 mpg less for 65 more horsepower than a 2.7 since I actually tow something.
He looks like “Mark Roberts” from Adam Sandler’s “Bullet Proof”
Who? I don’t know if I should be insulted or complimented.
I bought a 2021 STX 2.7 ecoboost 4x4 supercab. Two years and 35,000 miles later and I've had zero issues so far.....knock on wood. I've also had good luck with the Ford app, I use it every day to remote start my truck and sometimes to unlock the doors, mine does have the sync 4 system. I drive about 70% highway 30% city and I've consistently averaged 21-22 MPG. So far I love this truck.
Okay, I am getting that hat. I am dropping off my 2020 F-150 super crew cab truck tomorrow for the rear camera issue. I will be walking in with laminated photos I took of the wavy view, the blue screen view, and the "contact dealership message." I will also have a thumb drive with the videos I recorded that show those scenarios. Wish I had that hat now, but I will own one by the end of the day. I am coming from a 2019 Canyon that had no functional AC for two summers and the 8-speed 1st to 2nd hard shif and the stuttering effect (transmission trying to figure out what gear to select). I am will be watching for my dash to warp as well. This video has been helpful for sure.
Send me a $25 paypal to tim@pickuptrucktalk.com with your address. I’ll send one out today!
Interesting, I have a 2017 Ford Fusion Sport with the 2.7, heavily modified and absolutely have no issues with it. I broke the OEM lower rear motor mount, but that's with over 100's passes at the track. Currently at 48,000km, 1000's of track passes. no issues, at all with the power train. But, I'm very anal regarding the maintenance, and always change the fluids every year and oil at 5K.
Some people should never be allowed even close to something mechanical. Your Fusion sounds awesome
Your drag racing a Fusion? Sounds idiotic
Very interesting - thanks for sharing. I think the 5.0V8 is still the engine to get! FYI, I had a 2007 Tundra with the 5.7v8 and it would get a calculated 20MPG on the highway (70 mph +) Not Sure what Toyota did after 07-08 but newer models didn't ever get 20!
That 4.30 rear end is the culprit.
That Toyota did not get 20 mpg, even the guy interviewed made it very clear what the true mpg will be 16 on avg, but hey say what you need to say..
Except the dash issues, the rest are normal for new generation of any truck. I had similar electronic issues on my 19 Silverado which were fixed after couple of software updates.
I just got a 2020 f150 STX 2.7 ecoboost. It had 5880 miles on it when I picked it up on 12/31/21. I’m now at 7000 miles. The check engine light came on yesterday. P0174. Bank 2 running too lean. Popped the hood and saw air filter housing wasn’t seated properly. Secured it correctly, cleared code, and check engine light came back on again today. P0174 and P0171, bank 1 & 2 too lean. A few other minor but odd issues as well. I may post a video in next week or so.
Definitely happier with this truck so far though. My trade in was a 2011 STX 5.0 with the problematic 6R80 transmission. The only thing I miss about that truck is the sound of the CAI and exhaust.
I like how at 55 mph he admits he can get 25. That's only 1 mpg off the epa number which gets tested at 55mph
Keeps calling his truck a car and gives a review 🤣
🤣😂
have a 2017 2.7l xlt with 100,000 km and no problems except a few recalls. Great power and i get about 12.5l/100k average
My Lincoln app tells me out my battery life as well, however I only drive once a week because I work at home, my partners 2020 F 150 also had the camera issue in just a few days of ownership but no other issues on his truck.