Seat Ibiza 6L Airbag light on code 00588. Fault finding and repair.
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This car came to me with the Airbag light on.
The airbag module reports the 00588 fault, drivers airbag circuit too low.
What at the start pointed to a faulty igniter, later revealed to be something rather interesting...
Follow me on this video to find out what was the problem and how to resolve it.
DIY tool used:
• Airbag circuit tester....
Hope you enjoy the video.
Any questions or comments put them below.
Like always, thank you for watching! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Great video LM , guys do not try to measure airbag with multimeter, it can be deployed ! If you still have to do it , put the airbag away from the car and keep your distance.
Absolutely...
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LM Auto Repairs just a friendly advice if you alow it, put some warnings in the comment section and pin it or in the decription of the video.. not everybody has expierience with this kind of stuff and they try to replicate what they see. Other than that, great job !!!
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Pined your comment...
Deployment of an airbag being initiated by a digital multimeter is quite unlikely. I checked the test current of my Uni-T and Fluke meter in all ranges, the peak measured current was 1 mA. according to Keithley 50 mA is safe, Honda suggests under 10 mA, it may be possible to deploy one with an old moving coil meter.
ridl.cfd.rit.edu/products/manuals/Keithley/pdfs/app_notes/9665-1,0.pdf
ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/PENTICO/2009-11-07_165754_civic1.pdf
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That's correct...
I have measured loads, but for reasons you can imagine, I can't come here showing doing that...
Always better safe than sorry..
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Well done mate, as always;
I repaired a Golf VII with similar faults, sometimes resistance too high... sometimes resistance to low. All components was changed in dealer, clock spring, Airbag modul, parallel wiring, ECU... but faults comes again.
Once in our laboratory and after check all diagnose informs, I decide to remove and open the ecu.
There was evident signals of water filtrations inside, and searching the reason I discover the A/C evaporator box broken in a corner.
Depends the inclination of the car, the water goes directly to ecu plug and then, to inside of it by capilarity.
It was a nice work too...
Thanks for your videos, and I will to subscribe to your Patreon.
Regards from Barcelona
Guille
Ow! One more thing...
When manipulate Airbags, always keep it with the face up.
If detonate as you put in the floor, could be very dangerous if you're near.
Also, and I imagine that you know, its necessary to discharge your own static electricity when manipulate the pyrotechnic elements or his plugs, touching a metallic part of the body...
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Good video , very helpful , got one of these in workshop today same issue 00588 code and description changed after unplugging and reconnecting , turned out to be the contacts inside the multiplug on the other end of where this one had problems (big yellow plug).. turned out to be easy fix as a small screwdriver can reach the plug tangs and a little tweak and it solved it .
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Airbag systems are sensitive to changes in the resistance of the circuit...
Sometimes all it takes is a good cleaning...
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I watching you and I am very happy every time to learn something new. Thanks for your videos Luis!
That's great!
Thank you for the feedback!
Really appreciated!
Yep the high then low resistance errors do make you think, great catch!
Absolutely they do...
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Luis, first happy fathers day good info as always and learn some thing new always and is resistance check is the only way to approach airbag problems thank you and cheeeeeers.
Thanks!
The way the airbag module checks for the circuit integrity, is by checking the circuit resistance...
So is how you check it at well...😉
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Just repaired my ibiza due to this video many thanks👍
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Fixed my T4 airbag problem. Thanks so much.
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Another awesome video, watching in the US
Thanks Roxanne...
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very good as always, I always have a fear when looking at the back of air bags , set too many off in my time (not while working on them )
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Well, at least they deployed under the right circumstances... I hope... lol
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i would keep that in mind, in smart 451 the airbag light might come on from dust in the seatbelt connectors and i usually spray wd40 ti fix the issue. When you told on the video look at the airbag and see if you can spot the fault the connector was black and i was like, its dirt 99% but wasnt 😂😂
keep it up 👍
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Not dirty contacts in this case...
But I had them in the past...😉
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I've tested the clockspring on Ibiza 6l with multimeter because of resistance too high error code and measuring the resistance between the 2 right most pins gives a 0,2 ohm valaue (short). I assume that is not a way it should behave.
Also tried measuring the resistance between ends of a t45(?) plug and 2 right most pins on 8 pin plug like you did, and there is no continuity.
I assume the clock spring is messed up internally and has a short, and ECU sees it as an open circuit from its side?
Tnx in advanced.
Another great video thanks. Question .. Why didn't you check the resistance of the air bag. Could that cause it to go off?
Thanks
Yes, there is a possibility...
If you ever want to do it, plug some wires in, and do it from a distance...
Never do it close to you.
Airbags itself, are very rare to fail...
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J'avais le même problème le connecteur faisait pas le contact. Avec un tourne vis j'ai resserrer les lamelles des fiches.
I had the same problem the connector was not making contact. With a screwdriver I tighten the contact strips. Problem solve. Big thanks.
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Thanks!
Helpful video 👍
Thanks!
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Just ensure that the the clock spring is put back to central position after tests and prior to reinstallation of steering wheel or damage will ensue.
That's correct...
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Excelente vídeo, e de qualidade superior nas explicações do início ao fim, estou com o mesmo erro mas num golf V 1.4gt 2006 vou abrir para ver se é semelhante.
Parabéns e obrigado pelo contributo
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Good day sir,
Great video once again...
Hoping for your help once more. Do I have to program a used transmission control module on a CX5 2014?
I would say you need IDS or a capable tool for it...
I never done that, nor worked many times in Mazda... Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs thanks brother
Great video! Where are you based? I would love to bring my car to you for you to find the same fault!
very good video.thanks
Thank you for watching!
Помогите мне ! Тоже самое у меня я уже поменял шлейф, подушку, кабель, не помагает ! Вы сказали что просто нужно не дошелкнуть провод в подушку тогда контакт был норм ?
Genius !!! Everything you know is incredible... You didn't give up and that's why you found the fault... I congratulate you... I'm beginning to dare to get my hands on mechanics/electricity and I've already done many things (only my car, LOL). Let me ask you a question. I hope you can help me because it drives me crazy lol... I have a VW Passat 2004 2.8 V6. On Saturday I went to start it and by mistake I gave the key less time and it didn't start (nothing serious, it's something that can happen to anyone). I removed the ignition, and turned it on again and it started perfectly but it began to indicate the failure of the airbag on my side (in my case it says that it is due to high resistance). Until that moment it had never failed. What do you think I can do? Thank you very much and I hope you can help me. Hug from Argentina.
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Have you tried to clear the fault?
Could be a glitch, nothing serious...
Or a pure coincidence that the fault happened to occur at that exact moment...
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@@LMAutoRepairs I wish it was just a glitch, lol... I had that hope, but no. She erases the bug and leaves, but instantly she reappears. I have a multimeter... With that I can verify where the problem is? The truth is that it is something that worries me...
Which airbag exactly ir reporting a problem, the steering one, or side airbags?
@@LMAutoRepairs Sorry, sorry, sorry and more sorry, lol... I never got the notification of your message, that's why I didn't answer you before (I still have the problem). At this moment I do not have the exact code that the scanner gives me, but on Sunday or Monday I will give you that information. I thank you very much for your concern, and sorry for not having answered you before.
@@LMAutoRepairs I found the code, lol... It's this: "00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95): Resistance too High" The strange thing (as I mentioned in the first message) is that the fault started at the exact moment I turned on wrong the vehicle (until that moment had no error). I tried to erase the error with a Vagcom (cheap, tricky, lol). The fault went away, but then when I started the vehicle it started up again. I don't know if maybe with that tricky Vagcom the error wasn't completely erased and that's why it reappeared, or if having started the vehicle wrong really caused a break. What do you think?
Good info thank you
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One more scenario: what if clock spring has an open in certain position, you did not show full left to full right, and with wiring bypass test, you theoretically reverse connected the wiring, the plug does not go only one way in the airbag for nothing. Is there a diode inside, for reverse power protection?
I actually show full left and full right...
You must have skipped that part...
I am confused with your diode analogy... sorry...
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LM Auto Repairs I must of skipped that part. Why is the connector in the airbag fitting one way only? What is the reason? What if your low resistance faultcode was not cause by the short bar? Just asking, I don’t know myself for sure.
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That would mean a short elsewhere...
Which would need to be traced down...
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you are the best
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Excellent!
Thanks!
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The same fault code I had the other day mate 😊😊, do you think someone removed it and didn’t plug back correctly 👍👍👍
PS. Happy Father’s Day I hope the girls are spoiling today 🍺🍻
No... even when plugged in all the way, was still not pushing the shunt away from the pins... as I have explained....
I think is the opposite... I am the one spoiling them...lol
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Similar issue to me now sorted.
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Was there a recall for does airbags
Possibly...
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One question, maybe just changing the airbag ring can solve this problem?
You must have skipped the video when I showed what the issue was in this case...
Otherwise you would see that was nothing to do with the airbag ring (I believe you mean clock spring)...
There is other issues obviously that van be the ring... you need to test in order to diagnose it...
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The shunt is put there for safety reasons! It prevents discharge of static electric charge between two pins that the effect of it would be deployed airbag!
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So u didn't put again that plug in the middle of airbag?
The short...
The plug obviously was reconnected...
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What would it mean if the airbag light doesn't light up on the dash until the 3rd time you turn on the ignition. I changed the clock spring and this is how it is
Difficult to tell...
Is that after the car been left to "sleep"?
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@@LMAutoRepairs Just started car this morning and the airbag light comes on sometimes when you turn the key. Not always though
Strange... difficult to say without checking...
Have you scanned the car?
Any faults?
@@LMAutoRepairs no faults. Clock spring was changed
If there is no faults on the airbag module, can you do testing with the scanner on the cluster, to ensure that the led for the airbag comes on every time?
Same one was working there before!?
Indeed... the airbag was removed before by someone else... as it was scratched all over...
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So someone else removes airbag and does not know that short out plate is missing! And boom!?
Could have happened...
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Hi. I have an airbag light on but it says short to ground. Have you any idea what it might be. Ive changed the airbag, clock spring and bridged the connector under the seat and it still wont clear off. Thanks
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Looks like you have just randomly changing parts... from the clock spring to under the seat...
Which circuit is giving that fault?
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@LMAutoRepairs Thankypu for replying. Yeah that's what it feels like at the minute. I read up a lot about it and a few people managed to sort it with doing them jobs. It says driver side igniter short to ground on vcds
OK... driver side igniter alone can be a bit vague...
Which code do you have exactly?
I've scanned the code and it's coming back as 00588 - Airbag Igniter, Driver Side (N95): Short to Ground. Thanks
OK... so, have you measured the wrung from the airbag plug to the module itself?
Amazing find👌
A question regarding your Autel scanner, is your free 1 year update is finished? Did it locked afterwards? I heard it won't lock as long as it's not connected to the internet!! I am new to Autel and just got MK908P last week
My subscription actually ends end of this month...
Last time did not locked, just carried on working as normal...
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thanks Dude
No worries...
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Please wear an earthing kit when playing with airbags, not expensive and prevents any static setting them off. At a minimum they really hurt when they go bang
Those wipers will be next lol 😂 I’m sure that stalk was in off position but wipers were still operating erm🤔
Lol
Actually don't think they were...🤔
Not sure... was some time ago...
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Amazing video! Do you travel at all? Let me know and I’ll drop you a DM. Same issue, same car. Thank you!
No... i don't travel...
I do this as a part time...
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Good
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VW Audi Skoda are the same. The steering wheel is identical.
Indeed...
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First comment :))))
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Now relax, and watch the video...😉
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Thanks!