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Flying The Piper Apache
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2016
- Scott Glover with the Mid America Flight Museum takes us on a flight in the museum's Piper Apache. Scott explains how fun this airplane is to fly and talks us through some maneuvers.
Wish I had Scott as my instructor, his easy going nature and knowledge of the aircraft would make learning enjoyable. He flies that Apache as if it’s second nature.
A lot of instructors just want to show you how great they are especially young ones. Get a older instructor that’s been around a long time and isn’t a show off. You can’t learn from someone like that.
Just don't put Scott in an Aztec for training.... you'd never know if he is awake or not.
In the 1080s I received my multi engine rating in an updated Apache. After the left engine out portion of the check ride, the starter went out and we could not restart the left engine. I had to hand pump the gear down, made one of the best landings ever, and taxied into a parking space on the ramp. The instructor was so impressed, she gave me my rating on the spot. She had owned Apaches and did not think I could get it off the runway into the ramp. I would absolutely recommend the Apache.
In the 1080s Piper Aircraft didn't exist ;-D jkjk i'm going for my multi in an Apache next week, very excited.
I like his method of explaining .Its very informative and inclusive.
One of the most beautiful airplanes I ever flown, over 2000 hours in it, never a problem. RIP N1006P, and N1226P.
Hi Erick,
A great video. Currently, I own two Apaches. One a 150hp and one 180hp STC. A couple of things I would do differently, but a couple of things I’ve changed because of you. That demonstrates that one is never too old or experienced to learn.
Two things that I really appreciate in your video. First, is your reaction sequence and timing to an engine failure, demonstrating it is not an immediate catastrophe that needs to be dealt with immediate impulsive behavior.
The second is door popping, although exciting for the moment, it’s not the end of the world. The only thing I could add is to give your front right seat passenger a chore so they focus on that and not trying to climb into your shirt pocket thinking they will be sucked out of the plane.
Best,
Bill
My dad owned an apache. I loved this video. It was like being up with my dad again. N4397P. He flew out of Asheville NC. Thanks for the memories!!!
Awesome video. Thank you! Enjoyed every second of it!❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
OUTSTANDING
Good old Apache! Haven't seen one in ages, but they were everywhere when I was a teenager. Thanks!
Scott has a easy going way about him that makes his instruction easy to digest. Thanks.
i guess Im asking the wrong place but does anyone know a way to get back into an instagram account..?
I was stupid lost the account password. I appreciate any tricks you can give me
@Frederick Shawn Instablaster :)
Was riding along while my dad was providing instruction to a student in the Apache. Door popped open just as Scott described. The biggest distractor was the incredible noise inside the plane from the wind. Dad took control, slowed the plane down and landed. No issue
I used to do the governor test shown at 04:48 the wrong way. I used to pull each prop lever all the way to minimum RPM, watch the RPM drop and then push again all the way up to full flat pitch. That's how I had learned from my instructor, and that was probably how he learned from his. Until one fine day, when I flew with a very generous A&P mechanic who should be retired by then but loved to teach and was always around the FBO, and he explained then and there why I was doing it wrong. He taught me exactly like you did in the video. He has almost certainly passed away by now, as this was circa 1986 and he was already in his 70s then. When you brought this up, it instantly reminded me of him.
Thanks Erik and Scott. This brings back memories of my father flying the Piper Apache since the early 60's out of the Riverside, CA Municipal Airport. I and my 4 brothers were often his co-pilots. After the mission was done there was time to pull a few g's for fun, or skim low over the surface of Lake Mathews at high speed.
Excellent instruction!!! Thanx!!
Scott really knows his airplane. Very well explained. A delight to watch and listen. Thank you.
Beautiful aircraft, fantastic demonstration,finished my check rides in a Apache 30+ years ago and I loved it. Thank you
What a great pilot. I could listen to you all day.
Really enjoyed the video. My father owned a I think 1957 Apache back in the late 60'S. I remember flying with him in it. brought back some memories.Thanks for posting
That Apache is beautiful! Really enjoyed this ride along.
This is the best in-flight tutorial that I've ever seen. Thank you!
Great video - total confidence and competence, and an encouraging and engaging manner in demonstrating the aircraft. Really well done - thanks for posting.
I am flying a 58 Apache for my multi. Love the video. Very helpful.
Came back for another helping! The new issue of the VAA 'Vintage Airplane' magazine has a nice Apache article, and I remembered watching this nice in-flight report. 👍
Perfect video! Thank you very much for sharing!
This is awesome! I just had my first flying lesson a couple of weeks ago and it was in a Piper, I loved it! I have my next lesson in a few weeks time, I might ask the instructor if he'll let me take control of the wheel for takeoff. Great video! Very inspiring 😊
Thank you,really enjoyed,great little twin,all he best from Devon England,and a happy Christmas.
Very nice job showing the viewers how to fly an Apache. I was extremely impressed with your commentary and instruction. You now have a new subscriber ! A very enjoyable video and extremely educational. I am making the assumption you are a CFI from your presentation. Thanks for the video!
Got my ME in an old 310 and stopped flying soon after that. Long time ago. This made me realise again that i realy love flying. Thanks for the great video!
Glad you liked it Hans. Get back up flying and feed that passion. Flying is such an amazing thing in my life
Brought back memories as I've re-watched this clip. Got my Multi rating in a '56 Apache. A forgivable old cow on landings. On a hot summer's day, the joke was single engine rate of climb was a negative 50 foot per minute. My only Multi PIC was flying back from the check ride, from Danville, IL to Terre Haute(Hulman Field) IN.
Great instructional video
I love the tips on feather checks, etc. Nicely done.
Nice lesson on the feather check! Thanks for the video, I’m interested in the Apache and this helped.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video! Thanks for sharing
Amazing instruction, i learned a lot from that! Thanks for sharing
What an excellent instructor!
Nice demo flight in the famed Apache. I worked on many and still fondly remember them.
No doubt you know your Pa 23 very well ,, you demonstrate all phases of flight with a natural relaxed confidence , and especially the single engine procedure that many people have the the tendency to bad mouth the Piper Apache,, , which taught entire generations of commercial pilots flying today ,, thank you very much . e.b.
great instructional video. You make it look so easy; great pilot. great plane too.
Like your video. Have flown one for over 35 years and owned one for the past 20 years - a 150 hp just like yours. When doing an air start I have always found they light off better if I shut off the right mag and give one shot of prime.For the question on the Aztec - yes they are a sweetheart to fly also. They are heavier of course. They do not like to start when hot so shutting an engine down in flight I refuse to do.I do 90% of my landings at half flap. Your nose stayed up because you had a rear passenger.Cheers.
Great video! I am very interested in getting an Apache.
Great vid! Thank you! From Argyle, Tx!
that's a great old airplane.....thank you Eric
Very good pilot. I wish he was my flight instructor, so calm and relaxed. Although I’m not multi engine certified just yet I learned a lot of advice.
Very professional pilot and, was fun 😊
Legend has it that every PA-23 in the western hemisphere was stolen after this video was published.
LOL!!
wouldn't surprise me
ha ha, ya !
Beautiful, thanks for sharing!
your welcome. Thanks for watching
great video!!
Fly'n steam is quickly becoming a lost art...
Used to fly an old Cherokee that had the hand crank trim up high like that, loved that aircraft :-) They had an Aztec at our airport, although I never flew it, I did get to fly the Chieftan, but I always wanted to fly that Aztec ;-)
Thanks for the walk down memory lane Mr Johnston, always enjoy your video's !:-)
your very welcome Brian. I'm glad you enjoy them. I sure have a blast making them. These are fun
this video deserves a million views, very well demonstrated.
Allan. O. Ngare Haha!! Thank you! Sure glad you liked it
ErikJohnston Am in the US Army and Currently taking AP classes ( in a civilian college).
This came handy.🙌🏾💪🏾. Thanks for the detailed class and demo. I’ve subscribed to your channel for more of these vids.
Nice vid--thanks for the ride. Smooth and quiet without the overbearing radio chatter so many of these GA videos have. The Apache does its 140 knots so well.
Excellent video! Looks like Scott is a great instructor..
Great sound in the beginning!
My very first flight, a gift for my 16th Birthday was in a Piper Apache
Really love your video, audio and video clear, the demonstration on the engine out was great and how to feather the prop in an apache. Waiting on other videos :)
DLW Productions yes great video like more on this great bird
"Flying The Piper Apache" was enough to make me click on it. Subscribed also. Hope to see more with Scott in them. Very thorough and easy to understand his explanations. Reminds me of my old Multi instructor whom is no longer with us. Makes learning enjoyable and more productive. Actual demonstration eliminates the wonder of what it would really be like verses simulation (as long as you don't get stupid with it) which Scott did not. Is Scott still instructing and is the Apache available for dual rental? If so, location please? Enjoyed watching this and look forward to more. Brings back old memories of the Apache when I was a kid. I remember when they were brand new. Airport bum at a Piper dealership. I was in all of the new Piper aircraft they made at that time. Good memories indeed. Thanks!
Old pro at work. Nice video of someone that is very comfortable in the cockpit. 5 Stars.
Great video. I fly a 1958 Apache. It was the first plane for Florida Airlines in 1958!
The ol horizontal component of lift trick... Great vid
nice vídeo and a very good demonstration thanks
Nice video. You're knowledgeable and comfortable in the airplane. I only flew the Apache once, it was when I was teaching in the Aztec and I visited a buddy on Long Island. The numbers and speeds were similar to the Arrow. It was fun and easy to fly but it was modestly powered. Many guys said it really wasn't a twin; it was a single with half the cylinders on each wing. I'd like to do it again.
Nice! Makes me wanna steal another Apache again! lol
Haha, that made me laugh man.
Just love this guy.
Been in an Apache two times. Enjoyed both occasions. RIP Harold "Hal" Graham, ATP
Great plane... I've got one but don't fly it for many years now...It's really to bad. Thanks for the refresher course... great video.
Very nice. Thank you.
Great video and nice plane
Great Video. The Instructor was Great! Thanks for sharing
Glad you liked it. Scott has a great way of explaining how everything works.
+David Vazquez yes I am
Yeah I thought it was a very instructive video and the Captain certainly knows what he's talking about , I love to be flying with him
Beautiful Apache. A very underrated twin. Fun to fly all day, everyday.
capnhawk51 why would one want to steal an Apache?
Underrated? Dangerously underpowered.
My Apache has turbo 180's, so more power than I need. It's not dangerously under powered if you are a proficiently trained in an Apache. I lost the left engine on another Apache during take-off at a small, unattended airport. Full fuel and three souls on board. Was able to get back to my home base no problem, approximately 50 miles. You have to know what you are doing when flying an Apache.
Enjoyed that. Sweet machine
Years ago I lived in Seguin, Texas and on the local airport there was a company that took Apaches, zero timed the airframe, added a long sleek nose, hung 180 hp. engines, new panels, added gear doors and lots of other really slick mods. They called it the Geronimo. Made a really nice little airplane.
DiamondAire in Kalispell, Montana, took over from Seguin Aviation and does the Geronimo mods now.
I got my multi engine in an Apache, and later did the multi part of my commercial in a Geronimo. I miss them. Shortly thereafter I bought a 1958 Cessna 310, which is balanced on the head of a pin compared to the Apache!
Damn, just realized that was 30 years ago!
Nice job Erik, you’re becoming quite the cinematographer!
Concentric Aviation, LLC
Thank you Brian, hope your doing well my friend!
I got my multi endorsement in an Apache back in 1970 at the Barstow-Daggett airport. It's the only multi that I've been able to fly ... and none since my check ride.
Awesome Video
Mr. Kirby once took me for a flight in his Apache, thank you sir.
Sweet Airplane. Love your style! We used to call Apaches 2500 Ib. Sweet Potato because the were so sweet!
Great video....calm approach to the entire flight. I had only one experience with a screaming instructor...decided that he really did not like flying. and I switched instructors after one flight.
Screaming instructor?😳
I'm getting hooked ! Next video please !
Great video that guy really knows his iron
Nice! thanks
ERIC FIRST TIME WATCHING YOUR CHANNEL. LOVED THE PA-23 VIDEO.
I MANY YEARS AGO GOT MY MULTI ON AN APACHE. I THINK IT HAD 160HP PER SIDE N4354P LACONIA NH.
THANK YOU.
TRUE APACHE OWNER. EXCELLENT. THANKS FOR SHARING
Interesting and informative
That was a great demo flight and would love to use you for my multi, to bad were not close.
"How fun this airplane is to fly" ... hmmm ... ya, with both engines running, it's a fun airplane. I got a student his multi rating in an Apache. I remember the first after take-off simulated engine out I gave him. After setting the simulated feathered engine with zero thrust (or what I estimated zero thrust) I noted with some combination of amusement and alarm that we were still descending (and this was with only us two on board). We were descending toward a golf course and at about 400 feet AGL I remember thinking "golly, if this were the real thing we'd be landing there". This was the only student I had in the Apache. The Twin Commanche rented for only a little more and was a much better multi-engine training aircraft (and a whole lot more fun to fly, as well). And for those who could afford it (mostly GI-Bill students whose flight time was paid for by Uncle Sam) the Aztec was available and much preferred (especially by the flight instructor, hah hah).
Tim E. U
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Wow awsome pilot
My Uncle has 33,000 hours and was one hell of an instructor. This pilot looks like a great instructor too .
Good presentation .
great video I use to fly one
Nice ride 😁
good pilot ,knows the plane
Hi Erik. I saw u didn't set the max RPM on the approach. Why? If go around was needed? Thanks.-
Nice video and very good knowledge of his aircraft. I know very little about GA but what about checklists? Never saw one being used. Maybe this is normal.
I really like Scott's relaxed approach and simple explanations. I've always heard that Apaches are difficult to fly on one engine and that's evidently not true.
Super EZ to flay .. As Scott demonstrated there is nothing complicated nor rushed in doing anything .. It fly's much better and safer on one engine than any single engine airplane ..
turbo Aztec owner ... thanks, great video
Sweet!
good job
Nice job by the cameraman too.
david letterman Thank you very much
At 15;40, "if that pops back up and you dont have 3 greens, your gear is still down" ...or up? Nice Apache!!
Awesome
I'm a student and loved your video! You sir got yourself a subscriber!
Fine job from an old obvious Master.