How TVs joined the Eurovision 2024 Grand Final

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  • čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
  • Multi-view collection of some European TV stations (Rai 1, RTV San Marino, France 2, La 1, SVT1, Das Erste) joining the Grand Final of Eurovision 2024, compared with the official CZcams feed from the ESC channel.
    0:00 Commercials
    1:24 EBU Ident
    1:41 Start
    Thanks to ‪@tevebits‬ who inspired me for this collection.
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Komentáře • 108

  • @RadioGiorgio
    @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +71

    Some technical info:
    No station receives the feed at the exact same millisecond, nor is any station able to broadcast it perfectly in sync with the others. I synchronized all the clips to simulate them all starting together at 9:00 pm, but we know that this "like clockwork" precision isn't possible in digital TV technology. Encoding, compression, and digital transmission all add some delay, even if it's relatively few milliseconds (enough to not cause too much discrepancy), it's still there.

    • @JustTim51955
      @JustTim51955 Před 29 dny +2

      Id just like to add that this was especially the case with the bbc. I was first watching on bbc one then went to npo to see what my voting number is and i noticed it jumped ahead like 10 seconds

  • @gerginius
    @gerginius Před měsícem +218

    RAI WAS ON TIME? EVEN EARLY?! I can't believe it

    • @filippoboschini8659
      @filippoboschini8659 Před měsícem +3

      Do we wanna talk about the afternoon shows of Mediaset on Italia 1?? These are normal shows, not important ones...

    • @joaovitormatos8147
      @joaovitormatos8147 Před měsícem +1

      This year they've screwed up enough

    • @SoyFaii
      @SoyFaii Před měsícem +6

      they arrived early, and then fucked everything with the transition to the actual content

    • @Rickyzz_
      @Rickyzz_ Před 28 dny

      frfr

    • @joe_ita
      @joe_ita Před 20 dny

      I think Rai switched in early to show its native sponsor ad instead of the MoroccanOil one (probably because of contracts? idk)

  • @KatarsisWorkshop
    @KatarsisWorkshop Před měsícem +87

    i went to walk the dog while the voting was going on and i could see all the open windows in the buildings literally all of the tvs were in sync watching eurovision and absolutely no one in the street, was quite an experience

  • @SIAN_1
    @SIAN_1 Před měsícem +117

    Wow, French are not only delayed but also the loudest lmao 😂

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +33

      Yes, the French version has a very high volume. I haven't adjusted any volume but only recorded the original streams.

    • @mattthom9080
      @mattthom9080 Před 11 dny

      That's because WE make shine all Europe 😉😌 actually

  • @alextraordinary5294
    @alextraordinary5294 Před měsícem +86

    Last year RAI was very late in switching in to ESC grand final, now they were too early 😂

  • @LetronGER
    @LetronGER Před měsícem +38

    I love how the german TV Station has no Commercials but the others do.

  • @JoshInTheBox
    @JoshInTheBox Před měsícem +41

    RAI: _(always late on switched to live)_
    Also RAI: *THIS YEAR I'M EARLY BIRDIE*

    • @Airborn777
      @Airborn777 Před měsícem +1

      Due a lot of advesitings and Reclams that way😊

  • @AnduWALY
    @AnduWALY Před měsícem +8

    1:25 / 1:35 I really can´t say that there´s any audio delay. Everything´s exactly on time, works perfectly and smoothly. ♥

  • @CavaliereBlu
    @CavaliereBlu Před měsícem +10

    The italian screen is unhearable when there's any other one contemporarily 😂

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +1

      As already noted, I didn’t modify any volume

    • @tristano1984
      @tristano1984 Před měsícem +5

      because there is only the commentator talking, while the other have commercials which have higher loudness than just a voice. If you listen with good speakers, you can here Gabriele Corsi's voice.

  • @kristijanradovac
    @kristijanradovac Před měsícem +10

    it would actually be REALLY interesting to know how australia receives its broadcast feed and how much delay there would be considering the vast distance to be crossed... even fiber direct links have extremely high pings... satellite to satellite link maybe?

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +6

      EBU's FINE (Optical Fiber Network) also covers Australia (Sydney), as well as Japan, China, USA and other distant countries. They don't care about ping because it's a stream and not a direct interaction between points. Of course there's the satellite stream too. Keep in mind that compression technologies work wonders.

    • @kristijanradovac
      @kristijanradovac Před měsícem +1

      @@RadioGiorgio well sure, but wouldn’t 300ms latency feel noticeable enough for the stream? or is it still within the limits of the stream being able to reach australia simultaneously

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +2

      @@kristijanradovac I think that a good stream can be guaranteed if the latency is less than a second. So if they have a good infrastructure (and they do), a latency of 300 ms shouldn't really compromise the live stream. Also, consider that satellite feeds have latency, so if any provider (even geographically closer) uses the satellite feed, they'll be subject to some latency regardless of geographic location.

    • @The98597thMark
      @The98597thMark Před měsícem +2

      ​@@kristijanradovac If you were truly looking at them side by side, you'd notice the delay. Otherwise it makes no difference.
      Even within Europe the broadcast wouldn't go to air perfectly in sync. Encoding, compressing and transmitting digital video all adds delay. They're shown in sync here because without ultra accurate timestamps from the receiving end what else can you do. They *were* in sync at the *mixing desk* of each station.
      The main thing that's special about Australia is that Eurovision starts at 5am - so most of the work goes into the evening replay instead. I know in some past years they've started the show on a short tape delay and made up time during the first break before joining truly live. They don't run too many ads, so for a skeleton crew this is probably less work and less chance of technical issues.

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +2

      @@The98597thMark Exactly as you said, no station receives the feed at the exact same millisecond, nor is any station able to broadcast it perfectly in sync with the others.
      Of course I synchronized all the clips to simulate them all starting together at 9:00 pm, but we know that this "like clockwork" precision isn't possible in digital TV technology.

  • @Olivier-GM
    @Olivier-GM Před měsícem +54

    It's better with no comment on CZcams, in my opinion.

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +7

      The official CZcams livestream has no comment

    • @Olivier-GM
      @Olivier-GM Před měsícem +11

      @@RadioGiorgio I know. I've been watching the shows there for years. I could not stand the comments on French TV any longer

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +9

      @@Olivier-GM Oh yes there are some moments when the comment is truly invasive, I’ve watched the Italian version and I can confirm

    • @GiorgioNozzoli
      @GiorgioNozzoli Před měsícem +5

      @@RadioGiorgio This year they managed to provide the clean audio stream on the "English" audio track on Rai 1: you can notice the "this program is available in original language" text shown in the upper right corner just after the Eurovision intro

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +1

      @@GiorgioNozzoli Yes! They provide the original audio track for many TV programs.

  • @servusludziska3980
    @servusludziska3980 Před 15 dny

    Its so satysfinig

  • @maisuradze555
    @maisuradze555 Před 22 dny

    This is crazy man

  • @qaII56056
    @qaII56056 Před 26 dny +1

    TVE got "Telediario" programs before begin...
    Mostly, They just ended previous program before begin about more than 30 minutes.

  • @qtvnetworktv
    @qtvnetworktv Před 19 dny +1

    GMT +8 Stations in this scenario: Nope, everyone are sleeping!

  • @Niktube.254
    @Niktube.254 Před 29 dny

    DO YOU HAVE RTS 1 SRB ENTERING AND HRT 1 HR ENTERING AND CAN YOU MAKE THAT VIDEO AGAIN WITH RTS 1 AND HRT 1 ETERING

  • @NoelEmmanPader
    @NoelEmmanPader Před měsícem +2

    I noticed that the CZcams feed only broadcast in 30 fps. While European TV broadcasters opted for the 60 fps feed. CZcams have a 60 fps live stream option so why it didn't provide here?

    • @andysmith1706
      @andysmith1706 Před 29 dny

      There isn't a 60FPS feed. Even the main satellite feed from the EBU is only 25FPS interlaced. If the broadcasters are showing it at 60FPS, it must be getting upscaled by them...

    • @AkiraMidori
      @AkiraMidori Před 27 dny +1

      @@andysmith1706 Also EU channels are only 50hz, not 60hz.

    • @evsnex
      @evsnex Před 3 dny

      That is just a preference by the EBU, and TV channels usually publish their programs on the interlace framerate (25 as opposed to 50, 29.94 as opposed to 59.98).
      Also, CZcams compression sucks so live streaming in 50fps (CZcams encodes to 60) would result in lower quality than live streaming in for example 25.

  • @valerieperin3612
    @valerieperin3612 Před 25 dny

    I heard France 2's audio.

  • @finchx881
    @finchx881 Před měsícem +7

    Attenzione alla Rai che quest'anno almeno sulla finale è arrivata anche in anticipo 😁😁
    Ma la Rai da dove prende il segnale? le inquadrature mostrate in anticipo differiscono dall'international feed

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +3

      Potrebbe essere un “feed di servizio” senza grafiche fornito sempre dall’EBU, oppure un’inquadratura interna Rai come avviene ad esempio per le partite di calcio.

    • @finchx881
      @finchx881 Před měsícem +1

      @@RadioGiorgio ah ecco, magari hanno accesso a qualche camera "libera" in quel momento.
      Potrà sembrare una domanda stupida, ma c'è modo di guardare l'eurovision dall'international feed puro senza passare per rai? Per evitare il commento audio (so che c'è la diretta youtube ma la qualità è nettamente inferiore rispetto al segnale terrestre)

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +3

      @@finchx881 Sì, bisognerebbe riuscire a trovare il canale satellitare da cui EBU trasmette il feed, che potrebbe essere free o criptato ma non è strano che circolino le chiavi su dei forum specializzati. Non è alla portata di tutti ma si può fare.
      Comunque Rai trasmette anche la traccia audio originale.

    • @finchx881
      @finchx881 Před měsícem +1

      @@RadioGiorgio sarebbe interessante seguire la diretta da li.
      Lo so, su rai 1 ci sono diverse tracce audio ma quelle senza commento sono di una qualità indecorosa. Quella col commento è l'unica in ac3 (dolby).
      Comunque grazie mille, sei molto informato 😊

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +3

      @@finchx881 Confermo, traccia AC3 che tra l’altro non è neanche quella principale ma la seconda…

  • @Crtani_Filmovi_Hrvatska
    @Crtani_Filmovi_Hrvatska Před 15 dny +1

    Croatia ❤

  • @kincso1855
    @kincso1855 Před měsícem +2

    That is really Eurovision abouth! XD XD XD

  • @BBC_and_4_Continuity
    @BBC_and_4_Continuity Před měsícem +4

    Where’s BBC One for England?

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +2

      I’m really sorry but I wasn’t able to record some broadcasters.

    • @satwolf
      @satwolf Před měsícem +1

      Receive BBC in italy is quite difficult due the footprint of your satellite only on UK (here need at north at least 1.5 meters dish, rest of italy more). In internet the signal is geo protected and the BBC channels are not included in any pay bundle.

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +1

      @@satwolf The BBC iPlayer restrictions can be bypassed using a VPN, but yes, I don’t have any UK TV license of course

    • @happytv831
      @happytv831 Před měsícem

      @@RadioGiorgio

  • @NelIglesiasPerez
    @NelIglesiasPerez Před měsícem

    add VRT

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +1

      I’m sorry but I did not have access to all European broadcasters :(

    • @NelIglesiasPerez
      @NelIglesiasPerez Před měsícem +1

      @@RadioGiorgio :( no problem! ty anyway!

  • @gioyous
    @gioyous Před měsícem +1

    Version that has all footages with the same volume? I live in italy and Rai 1 being unhearable is offensive for me

    • @RadioGiorgio
      @RadioGiorgio  Před měsícem +7

      Addirittura offensivo? Sono italiano anch’io e ho semplicemente lasciato tutti i volumi originali, mica ho abbassato quello di Rai 1 🤣

    • @gioyous
      @gioyous Před měsícem +1

      @@RadioGiorgio lo so. Ti ho chiesto di fare un video in cui tutti i canali si possono sentire forti

  • @fergasol1
    @fergasol1 Před měsícem +3

    Guess what channel was i watching
    Clue: 🟦
    They couldn't even stop talking about the song 8.