Eurovision 2024: Grand Final data board | Every ranking and point
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- This is a presentation of all the points and rankings from the 2024 Eurovision Grand Final from Malmö.
Thank you again to Danielle Kelly for her code in R which did an efficient pull of all the data from the eurovision.tv website.
The backing music is lifted from the actual broadcasts, via @KubasEurovision - the music was composed by Eirik Røland, Johan Nilsson, SVT, EBU (all rights to them). I also used the 2022 Turin voting music: All rights belong to: Maurizio Filardo, Rai, EBU.
EBU Executive Supervisor Martin Österdahl may well have been relieved that HMS Eurovision was docking into his native Sweden (Österdahl was Executive Producer for 2013 and 2016) after the tumult of the shared production in Liverpool, RAI’s approach to show-running and the COVID years. Unfortunately stormy waters were ahead for Eurovision…where did we leave that boat they had at the back of the stage in 1992?
The surety of a polished production from the House of Melodifestivalen was the anchor around which this edition successfully got to air on time, and without a devastating incident.
For some historical context, we could look to Stockholm 1975. Back then, Israel’s singer Shalom Artzi had a threat to his life just before he went on stage. There was heightened security around the show, with the Israeli delegation separated from the rest. The left-wing ‘Red Army Faction’ was planning an attack in Sweden, but it came at the West German Embassy some months after the Contest. Furthermore, a boycott was being organised too…this time for conductors to opt out of Eurovision in protest at the commercialisation of music. Two conductors out of 70 asked stayed away.
In 2024, Israel’s inclusion was very much the driver of a boycott - although it’s still unclear how effective it was. Artists from numerous nations did sign a public letter protesting Israel’s actions in Gaza (which are following the terrorist attack against Israel in October 2023) but ultimately 37 delegations turned up.
Israel’s inclusion seemed to create a sour atmosphere between delegations backstage. There are numerous claims of misconduct by the Israeli delegation that are due to be raised by Serbia and Slovenia. Ireland, Switzerland and Greece were all absent from one flag parade rehearsal due to a meeting being held with the EBU.
One incident still under investigation and with reportedly no link to the Israeli delegation involved the Dutch artist Joost Klein. Klein was barred from rehearsing in the Grand Final dress rehearsals on Friday, but it wasn’t until the morning of the Grand Final that he was removed from the running order…or not as the case maybe (song 5 remained but with no performance). New ground in Eurovision history was broken here, although late non-participations aren’t unprecedented - see France 1974, but that became evident some 4 days prior to the final and was for very different reasons.
The ‘incidents’ section of Wiki’s page on this year is also littered with Eurovision perennials - political statements made with clothing, and gestures, oh and the flag policy. Whilst booing came about as part of Russia’s actions in 2014, stifling the booing in the production was denied by SVT and the EBU, despite it being used in Vienna 2015.
Unfortunately the frothy waters surrounding Eurovision ended up washing into the cold hard rocks of data. A few questions spring to mind: the denied ‘Europapa’ did well in its semi-final, where would the audience points gone? ‘Europapa’ received a valid jury result for the Grand Final but only accrued 58 points (which were redistributed)…was that depressed as the juries knew something was up? We know some jurors deliberately ranked Israel’s ‘Hurricane’ lower (see Norway), we know that Israel may have been on a drive to get televotes on the board too - and did the furore puncturing the mainstream media result in a lopsided public vote for them?
The juries eventually steered the ship to safe waters. A landslide, more impressive than Loreen’s in Liverpool, meant Switzerland and Nemo’s ‘The Code’ only needed a fifth place televote score to win by 44 points. The second place being the popular favourite from Croatia (although the public vote was more evenly split this year compared to that for ‘Cha Cha Cha’).
Pleased with 2024 should be Ireland and Germany, who both ended up with their best result in years. Ukraine and Sweden should be pleased that new voting rules meant awful running order positions didn’t dent their excellent entries as much as some might have thought. Portugal and Armenia making the top 10 was little predicted, I feel. Perhaps the least happy with Malmö be the UK, Norway, Australia and Denmark. Two that were perhaps Grand Final worthy, and two Grand Finalists that just didn’t connect with voters, both jury and public.
To Switzerland we go, back home, for the first time since 1989. A land-locked country… which will be a relief to many.
00:00 Intro and notes
01:00 Jury votes
10:56 Audience votes - Hudba
The fact that your graphics are better than the original ones can send me. Amazing job 👏
honestly my favourite part of the esc season - the annual data board videos
I would love for you to make new ESC scoreboards between 2003 and 2015 and the data boards between 2016 and 2022... I love your work and I watch and rewatch it all the time
I need to watch the televote part about 18 more times. But a few things struck me:
1) Ireland got televote points from all countries except five, and of those five, it was #11 in Switzerland, Albania, Luxembourg, and France.
2) Ukraine got televote points from every country except Serbia, where it was #11. That's astounding.
3) Switzerland got televote points from every country except Israel where it finished #11.
4) Croatia got televote points from every country. In fact, it never received less than 5 points. That's also astounding.
5) France got televote points from every country, but very few countries had it high.
6) The UK not only got zero televotes. It wasn't even close to getting any televotes. I'm a little mystified by that.
Thanks for doing this. Excellent work.
Serbian public "only" gave 7 points to "Stefania" in 2022. My understanding is that they are the European country (besides Belarus) who is most friendly towards Russia, probably because Russia has backed Serbia's position regarding Kosovo.
We need a tutorial how to make that magic!!
I'm one of the older Eurovision fans. Started watching 1981, so I do have some broader perspective of the contest.
2024 was kind of a breaking point for me.
The viciousness of social media, the awful booing crowd, the months of negative discussions over each song, the nasty behaviour of some of the participants and their respective broadcast companies have all reduced the competition to an hysterical and cringe event. I don't even think there's a way back, as the contest reflects the ever growing negativity in Europe towards just about anything.
I miss the 70s-90s contestants.
So sad to see how this event deteriorated this much.
Welcome baaaaack. DATA TIIIIIIME!!!!
I was waiting for this for the entire season let's gooooooooooo :DDD
I love this. I could honestly go for the real results being presented like this, with the hosts reading aloud the points totals as they come up. It would be exciting to see on the spot which countries are supporting who in the televote, and it would spare us sitting through the tedium of 22x 12 points being given to the same entry.
But then we would see that viewers are engaged in neighborhood voting, unlike fairly objective juries, how then to blame the jury for all the troubles? Croatia and its neighbors have especially succeeded in this, it's a shame
I was waiting for this. Thank you!
As always - AMAZING work. Thank you so much! ❤
Absolutely excellent video, so interesting I couldn’t look away!
Amazing as always !
Wonderful!
Sick layout!
Awesome video! Can you please show us a table with all the average positions? Which country would've been which rank in average jury/televote/combined average place?
Some fun facts:
- First time since 2001 that Sweden awarded no points to Norway
- Slovenia received 20 out of their 27 points from Croatia
- Luxembourg, Germany and Austria all received the best jury and televote score from Israel
Slovenia received the 21st last place from the audience. It turns out that Slovenia is worse than the UK in terms of audience voting
thereorderboard has cooked again!! another smashing design 😁
Hope you can also make a video for the semi finals
I think you did a much better job than SVT with the whole gradient concept.
I don't understand the sorting on the right hand side though.
IfI think what you are asking is correct, the right hand column is the total of votes for each country from firstly juries and then including televote. The country awarding the highest combined points is listed first and, after all point giving countries are listed in descending order, the countries giving zero points are listed in performance order.
Is it specifically the sorting that doesn't make sense?
@@thereorderboardYes, but now that I got a closer look, I think it's because you're sorting the countries by the rank given only, and that explains why countries awarding 11th place, but no points, are sometimes shown above countries awarding 11th place and 1 point. Given that only one country was disqualified, maybe a second sorting criterion (the actual number of points given) would have made things a bit less confusing and contiguity would have been preserved both rank-wise and point-wise (at the expense of alphabetical sorting within each group). See the ranks received by Sweden from the jury for example.
I'm not saying it's wrong, it just looks weird at first.
Beautiful presentation as always! What typeface are you using for this board? It looks so much better than Avant Garde Gothic.
Thank you for the video. Btw where did you get the RotW rank?
That is a good ideal for the ESC
18:11 Interesting how Switzerland public didn't vote for Bambie. Swiss jury gave them 10 points.
Please do for the semifinals.
Excellent work! Where did you get the full results (the places 11-25) of the rest of the world voting from?
I’m really wondering about that too 🤔
What would the result be in 2024 under the old points system? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Can you tell me or make a tutorial on how you made the things move like that at 0:05
Serbia ranking Slovenia 25th is preposterous.
How you do that? I love it❤
interesting how ireland despite getting loads of tele points got no 12 point televotes
Switzerland almost received points from every country in both jury and televote...
And set the new record for the most 12s received from the juries with 22
Hi, where did you get Rest Of The World full results because i can't find it anywhere?
Rotw:
1 pt. - Italy
2 pts. - France
3 pts. - Greece
4 pts. - Luxembourg
5 pts. - Armenia
6 pts. - Switzerland
7 pts. - Ireland
8 pts. - Croatia
10 pts. - Ukraine
12 pts. - Israel
@@sy48188 yes, I know for The top 10 but I meant for The places 11 to 25?
Serbia ranking Slovenia last with the juries??? Whoa
Yeah - if it was in the semi you might reasonably think it was tactical. But in the *final*? What's going on there?!
it's revenge, last year Serbia gave Slovenia 12 points in the juries but Slovenia gave Serbia dead last in return, guess they held the grudge for a year
@eurovisioncyan9550 Wow - if that's true, that's petty (and pathetic) beyond words
I agree with the Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia and Greece juries, for putting Ireland last
Btw who were the juries of australia. Ireland first and France last?!
Ireland shouldn't even have qualified
I don't understand how Slovenia got 7points from RoTW at SF1, then they became last placer for RoTW in the finals?
1. Different songs e.g. if someone liked Sweden, Italy and Slovenia in that order, they put most or all votes on Slovenia in the semi but only maybee 3/20 in the final
2. Running order. Slovenia got the unlucky position between the two favorites to win (Switzerland and Croatia) and songs tend to get more compared to direct running order neighbours than others as you have them more freshly in mind.
I always thought that the jury's would vote just as the public. This gives more limelight to the situation the Netherlands disqualification brought. If we had had Joost the swiss the Swiss might had not gotten so many points from the jury.
nah definitely not. joost ended up getting 58pts from the juries. he would only cause an impact to switzerland if he ranked (in the averaged jury score) directly above switzerland (so etc jury ranked netherlands 3rd, switzerland 4th). i don't think he did, but i might be wrong.
he would've stolen jury points from croatia actually, but probably like less than 15pts. italy's jury (who funnily enough, was the only jury to have all 5 members individually rank switzerland 1st) had him in 2nd and croatia in 4th
edit: luxembourgish jury would've given him 10pts but they had switzerland in first. luxembourg had 2 members rank him 1st and 1 member ranking him dead last lol
joost would've stolen televotes from both switzerland and croatia but switzerland had far too much of a lead ahead of croatia either way
im not biased but serbia is one of the most underrated countries in eurovision
How tf did Australia give last place to France when they gave 12 to Ireland😀😀😀
are you able to do a semi final data board?
Not OP, but I think it should be possible now that the EBU has finally updated the results for semi 1.
What program did you use?
How did you make this scoreboard?
2003 reorder?
this gave me nerdgasm omg
Where did you find the complete "RotW" vote?
It's easy to guess looking at the order of the countries that didn't award any points to a particular entry. The order is not random and can be perfectly recreated based on the data the EBU published. Then it's a matter of filling in the blanks. However, there is indeed an ambiguous case with Austria and Cyprus in this year's final.
@@afelixi dont get it, could you give an example?
@@esc_germany In the detailed voting results on the official website, you can see that the Rest of the World is always listed first among the countries/territories that have awarded any amount of points to an entry. For example, in the final, Armenia got 5 points from the Rest of the World, and only then Belgium, Czechia and Greece (alphabetically). Similarly, Croatia got 8 points from the Rest of the World, and only then Belgium, Czechia, Italy, San Marino and Spain (alphabetically).
Now, when you look at a country that didn't get any points from the RotW, like Germany, you will see that the countries giving 0 points from the televote are listed in a clear order: first Armenia and Moldova (who ranked Germany 11th), then Latvia (13th), then the Rest of the World (which by our logic should be strictly lower than 13th place), then Azerbaijan, Denmark, Italy, Lithuania and Poland (who all clearly ranked Germany 14th in the televote if you go to their individual pages). By this logic, Germany MUST have come 14th in the Rest of the World vote.
@@afelix ok, wow this is very deep analysis
United by Joost
Never thought a graph could be so relaxing and clear!
The most relevant thing: juries' corruption.
???
i love how everyone is talking about how juries were rigged when the televote was probably more rigged than azerbaijan throughout the 2010s
@@firsyinactive I mean juries have a higher chance to lose,one of the 5 of them ranks a song 25th and its almost oficcial that song won't get points :')
Croatian jury giving no points to the Switzerland, and ranking them specifically 11. What a childish behaviour! They knew of Nemo's talent but couldn't give any points, because they would help Nemo against their own Baby Lasagna. Sick! I don't think Baby Lasagna would approve this.
To be fair,the juries is like a small sample of country .Yesterday I saw how for Armenia and Austria many Juries would rank them in top 1-5 and their peers would rank them 25 and give then no points as result 😥
Great data board, but still, a scoreboard without the Netherlands in it means nothing.
How the UK's song finished above those of Norway, and Austria - I will never know. Ours was cringe af. Not just the performance, but the fact Olly Alexander can't really sing....despite already being a 'successful' singer beforehand. Who buys his stuff??????!
Another year where the juries made all the difference.
A true winner is always that country that wins televote.
The true winner is the one that gets the most points across the board.
@@JeSuisReneI can’t believe we have this “real winner” rubbish for a third year in a row. I really wish people could just unite behind the winner. Thing is, this “the televote winner is the real winner” discourse would be suddenly forgotten if a country the fans didn’t want to win won the televote.
Looking at the Switzerland's jury votes, the only country that didn't give any points to them is Croatia. Weird, isn't it?
Would it be because Croatian jury knew all the other juries would give good points to Nemo, because their singing capacity, technique and voice is very good? So Croatian jury thought Nemo is of winner material, so they decided to give them no points?
I like listening to Baby Lasagna, but seeing Croatian jury's very very corrupt behaviour, I am very glad Nemo won.
@@mrjdsworld80 Ukraine 2022 is the only exception to that claim it seems
They still ranked Switzerland 11th, so it’s not that strange, and the rest of their top 10 (bar Slovenia) checks out.