Today’s video is Showing some similarities and differences between an IH 966 and IH 986 as well as some cat construction equipment used to build the waterway.
Used a 966 as a teen working for the neighbour up the road.Great tractor. Did have the larger rear tires and no duals. Seemed to have endless power and trouble free.
I really like these videos! For me as a german it's very interesting to learn more about the US built IH-tractors. 624, 733 and 1246 are the tractors you see around where i live, of course all german models.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge of both series. I don’t mind ether one. Here in the summer I prefer a tractor with ac in the summer. Both make my 2444 look small.
Dad always referred to 86 series as guy shakers for the seats sitting so far forward. I never ran one, spent plenty on time on the 06s, 66s, and 88s. Good tractors.
Nice, we're still rocking a 1066. We got rid of the cab too. It's an oldy but a good one. We use it for a lot of stuff =p We used to take on and off the duals back in the day.
If my history is correct. The 966 and 1066 both have 414 motors the 1066 being turbocharged. The 986 has a 436 motor ( no turbo) like the 1486 ( has turbo) now the 986 motor does have a different head than the 1486 motor
I'll never understand the guy that says A766 can outpull A966. Sure if you turn the pump up but it wasn't designed right out of the factory to pull more.
I have to admit, I like the styling of the IH 966. It looks like they've taken fairly decent care of it. The guy doing the work has some nice older equipment that he's using to get your waterway fixed up. Stay safe.
Spent a lot of time on a 1066 and a 986 as a kid . 1066 just pulled the hell out of things. But the 986 had a cab and a/c so it was appreciated, although less power
The international tractor's that I like is the international 806 and the 856 next up 1066 the 1466 the 1586 the 5088 the 5288 and the 5488 but international tractor's are still number one in my book and I'm very proud of the international tractor's that's what grandfather had was all international tractors so me and my grandfather loves international tractors hands down they are the very best tractor and so isn't there garden tractor's they the very best as well
Correct. The 966 had the same engine that was in the 1066/1086 but without turbo. The 986 had the 436 that was in the 1466/86 and 1566/86 except no turbo
Thanks for the video. I have put a lot of hours on 66 and 86 series.1066,1566,1086,1486. the 66 rides better.the cabs are nicer on 86.my favorite to drive was a 766 that had the fuel turned up on it.pulled 4 bottom MF flip plow and with duals pulled a 16' Krause harrow.
@Brad Jenkins.My bad,I use to help a that I knew sometimes that had 1066 tractors.He said the told that those1066's had DT466 engines.Thanks for the information.
According to Tractordata, the 966 and 1066 (and 1086) all used the D414, but the 1066 and 1086 were turbocharged. The 986 had the larger D436 - same as 1466/86 and 1566/86 but non-turbocharged
We had two 574's. One with front end loader. I think rated at .... 65hp ? Loved them both . Pulled pretty good too. We had forks front and back on the one . Pick one 1000 lb round bale front and back . The 3 pt could handle more so that's where the greener bale went ... Lol
The cabs are nicer on an 86 series and newer. But I always hated how the levers are on an 86 series getting in and out. On a 66 series that is easier getting on and off. I always liked the 66 series a lot better as long as they are open station.
We had both a 1566 open station and a 1586 with cab. I was trying to harrow a field once that hadn’t been plowed in a year or two and was grown over with the 1566. The bugs just about knocked me off the tractor. I was across the county and couldn’t just go swap tractors. Never did finish the job. Decided not to rent the place.
I agree completely with staying as far away from 3pt equipment as you can!! We farm in central MN where there’s a gentle roll to the land and even here you can’t give the stuff away that’s 3pt mount our trouble is you get stuck in the wet spots with it to easily cause it drags you down so bad Great video!!
@69druth.The1066 has a DT466 turbo charged engine.Spent a lot of time on a 1066.A good powerful tractor.I liked very it much.Too bad that International tractors ended the way they did.I also had some time on a John Deere 5010.What I liked about that tractor was so that heavy that it didn't bounce while plowing or discking the fields.Because the fuel was in front of the radiator,the fan blew up dust and trash up in my face.Had the wear goggles.That old 5010 sure could pull.
PA farms ive got an 866 which is similar to a 966 it's got hydraulic troubles oils been changed 4 times last change got it going now back to not working come to the conclusion it's got sludge in the back end as what's been found on the filter and screen is there a screen on the pick up and how's the best way to get to it and clean it out im also wondering it I need to clean out the whole back end any suggestions would be appreciated thanks
@@benmorris3902 yeh as it turned out I ended up pulling the pto and cleaned it all out it was full of sludge the pto pick up was full of sludge cleaned it out and got the load sence fixed and put back together filled with oil now it all works great hitch pto and remotes and steering thanks for reply anyway
We have two 966’s three 1066’s a 1086 and two 1486’s. The 9’s both have d414s. The 1066 all have dt414’s just like the 1086. The 1486’s have dt436’s. The axles on a 966 are the same size as a 1066 at 3 1/4 inches I believe a 986 is the same. The 1086 and 1486 are 3 1/2.
IH always ran kinda small axles. I worked at the local AC dealership and one of my best friends worked at the local IH dealership and he said they kept in stock an axle for 1066's. A comparable AC would be a 7030 and that axle was 3-5/8", replaced by the 7040 a year later with 3-3/4" axles and later the 7045 that had an optional long axle with 4" diameter like all 7080's had. Later I worked parts for a CaseIH shop when the 66/86 series were still a main horse for smaller farmers. I saw a lot of rear end work on 10's and up. Great engines though. I've heard farmers who have owned both AC and IH say if AC would have used an IH engine it would have been the perfect tractor.
Not sure about the rear end. But the motors were smaller. The earlier ones I think up to 78 had an international 360 engine. Great winter starter. The 78 model and later had the 358 German engine. Harder to start in winter but a quicker response on engine
Moving the cab forward is what made the 86 series ride so bad on rough ground. The cab according to my neighbor was designed by farmers wifes that hated their husbands. The 88 series fixed alot of the issues and finally a hydraulic clutch, a transmission you could shift after letting the clutch out and disengaging again. Imothe magnums fixed all of the problems except the cab filter over the back window.
The 9 has the 436 and the 10 has the 414 turbo. I am pretty sure that's correct. I know our 9 has the 436. Back in that time they were king and if they had a power shift at the time they still would be. I remember a old fellow saying that if somebody went broke and had green tractors and blue silos that's why. Lol
I posted the original version saying that and I had about 6 people correct me and say the 966 had the 414. I never noticed that. I did the valves on one once that was the 436. So it had me wondering if the later models had the 436? Either way I figured I better re upload the video so I don’t give out bad info. This one is stamped DT414 so I figured they used a 10 block, but it doesn’t have a turbo
Where I grew up everyone that had green tractors and blue silos also drove fords and were members of the NFO. We always had red and orange and drove chevy's and weren't a member of the NFO. We just couldn't see dumping thousands of gallons of milk on the ground. Oh the olden days.
@@PAFarms l didn't know that they had the 414. We had a dealer trying to sell 1086s with 986 components. He put 1086 decals on 986s. IH pulled the plug on him.
I think I read somewhere where IH moved forward in front of axle for a better ride. I guess sitting over, Or behind axle made for a rough ride. Anyways, I like 66,86, And 88 series there all unique in there own ways.
Farmall m and up everything is interchangeable actually. Also a 966 is the same thing as a 1066 expect the one has a turbo but the blocks are different a bit
Used a 966 as a teen working for the neighbour up the road.Great tractor. Did have the larger rear tires and no duals. Seemed to have endless power and trouble free.
We had a few, 656,706,1066,1486. Oh, and the m. All served us well. Not perfect, by any means, but reliable. Really good engine on all of them.
I really like these videos! For me as a german it's very interesting to learn more about the US built IH-tractors. 624, 733 and 1246 are the tractors you see around where i live, of course all german models.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge of both series.
I don’t mind ether one. Here in the summer I prefer a tractor with ac in the summer.
Both make my 2444 look small.
Dad always referred to 86 series as guy shakers for the seats sitting so far forward. I never ran one, spent plenty on time on the 06s, 66s, and 88s. Good tractors.
Nice, we're still rocking a 1066. We got rid of the cab too. It's an oldy but a good one. We use it for a lot of stuff =p
We used to take on and off the duals back in the day.
Nice video. Eventually you should get a 1066. I hope to see the 560 doing some work this year.
If my history is correct. The 966 and 1066 both have 414 motors the 1066 being turbocharged. The 986 has a 436 motor ( no turbo) like the 1486 ( has turbo) now the 986 motor does have a different head than the 1486 motor
Thank you for the comparison video!
I'll never understand the guy that says A766 can outpull A966. Sure if you turn the pump up but it wasn't designed right out of the factory to pull more.
I have to admit, I like the styling of the IH 966. It looks like they've taken fairly decent care of it. The guy doing the work has some nice older equipment that he's using to get your waterway fixed up. Stay safe.
them ol tracters jist keep on runnin,,thank ya fer the video
Spent a lot of time on a 1066 and a 986 as a kid . 1066 just pulled the hell out of things. But the 986 had a cab and a/c so it was appreciated, although less power
As a kid i had a choice of a 766 with cab.... Or a open 1066..... Even in NY snow, i always choose the open 1066.
We have a 966 Hydro and it's one of the best tractors we've ever owned. My future plans is to restore a 1466 Turbo with the 436 engine.
Great tractors, what to drive one someday 👍
The international tractor's that I like is the international 806 and the 856 next up 1066 the 1466 the 1586 the 5088 the 5288 and the 5488 but international tractor's are still number one in my book and I'm very proud of the international tractor's that's what grandfather had was all international tractors so me and my grandfather loves international tractors hands down they are the very best tractor and so isn't there garden tractor's they the very best as well
The 966 was originally built with a 414 engine.
Correct. The 966 had the same engine that was in the 1066/1086 but without turbo. The 986 had the 436 that was in the 1466/86 and 1566/86 except no turbo
Thanks for the video. I have put a lot of hours on 66 and 86 series.1066,1566,1086,1486. the 66 rides better.the cabs are nicer on 86.my favorite to drive was a 766 that had the fuel turned up on it.pulled 4 bottom MF flip plow and with duals pulled a 16' Krause harrow.
You really know your tractors ! It looks like there doing a good job so far on the waterway .
@Brad Jenkins.My bad,I use to help a that I knew sometimes that had 1066 tractors.He said the told that those1066's had DT466 engines.Thanks for the information.
According to Tractordata, the 966 and 1066 (and 1086) all used the D414, but the 1066 and 1086 were turbocharged. The 986 had the larger D436 - same as 1466/86 and 1566/86 but non-turbocharged
We had two 574's. One with front end loader. I think rated at .... 65hp ? Loved them both . Pulled pretty good too. We had forks front and back on the one . Pick one 1000 lb round bale front and back . The 3 pt could handle more so that's where the greener bale went ... Lol
Wow I'm restoring an international Harvester 354 on my channel we have had since new in 1974
The cabs are nicer on an 86 series and newer. But I always hated how the levers are on an 86 series getting in and out. On a 66 series that is easier getting on and off. I always liked the 66 series a lot better as long as they are open station.
We had both a 1566 open station and a 1586 with cab. I was trying to harrow a field once that hadn’t been plowed in a year or two and was grown over with the 1566. The bugs just about knocked me off the tractor. I was across the county and couldn’t just go swap tractors. Never did finish the job. Decided not to rent the place.
We have both 986 and 966 love both of them but I'd rather drive the 986 in the winter
I agree completely with staying as far away from 3pt equipment as you can!!
We farm in central MN where there’s a gentle roll to the land and even here you can’t give the stuff away that’s 3pt mount our trouble is you get stuck in the wet spots with it to easily cause it drags you down so bad
Great video!!
I have the 1/16 966 Prestige with cab and duals and the 1/16 986 tri stripe with cab and loader in my IH Stash..
Spent may hours on a 966 baling . Track loader looks like a 950 or 960. Early/mid 90's maybe.
The cat is called a track loader looks like a 963
we have a 1486 and fuelling for me is a pain wish we had a 986 but i am of the mindset now what ever gets the job done
@69druth.The1066 has a DT466 turbo charged engine.Spent a lot of time on a 1066.A good powerful tractor.I liked very it much.Too bad that International tractors ended the way they did.I also had some time on a John Deere 5010.What I liked about that tractor was so that heavy that it didn't bounce while plowing or discking the fields.Because the fuel was in front of the radiator,the fan blew up dust and trash up in my face.Had the wear goggles.That old 5010 sure could pull.
@@robertunderwood6984 From the factory a 1066 has a DT414 in it.
Something has definitely engine wise has happened to that thing, look at the rusty frame section around the engine.
Thanks, that was really interesting 👍
As soon as you attempt a starter change on a 86 series, you’ll suddenly develop an appreciation for the 66 series. Lol
PA farms ive got an 866 which is similar to a 966 it's got hydraulic troubles oils been changed 4 times last change got it going now back to not working come to the conclusion it's got sludge in the back end as what's been found on the filter and screen is there a screen on the pick up and how's the best way to get to it and clean it out im also wondering it I need to clean out the whole back end any suggestions would be appreciated thanks
I've heard of someone draining the oil in a transmission then putting in diesel before taking it for a drive to slosh it around.
@@benmorris3902 yeh as it turned out I ended up pulling the pto and cleaned it all out it was full of sludge the pto pick up was full of sludge cleaned it out and got the load sence fixed and put back together filled with oil now it all works great hitch pto and remotes and steering thanks for reply anyway
I don't think it's pouring it sure is interesting what you guys work on equipment keep up the
looks like the crawler was a 963 like what have
We have two 966’s three 1066’s a 1086 and two 1486’s. The 9’s both have d414s. The 1066 all have dt414’s just like the 1086. The 1486’s have dt436’s. The axles on a 966 are the same size as a 1066 at 3 1/4 inches I believe a 986 is the same. The 1086 and 1486 are 3 1/2.
1086, 1466 and 86 have 3-3/8 axles, they use the same wheel center as the 3-1/4 axle with different wedges.
IH always ran kinda small axles. I worked at the local AC dealership and one of my best friends worked at the local IH dealership and he said they kept in stock an axle for 1066's. A comparable AC would be a 7030 and that axle was 3-5/8", replaced by the 7040 a year later with 3-3/4" axles and later the 7045 that had an optional long axle with 4" diameter like all 7080's had. Later I worked parts for a CaseIH shop when the 66/86 series were still a main horse for smaller farmers. I saw a lot of rear end work on 10's and up. Great engines though. I've heard farmers who have owned both AC and IH say if AC would have used an IH engine it would have been the perfect tractor.
We have a 1940 Farmall M, great tractor.
Yea someday I would like to add an m to the collection
@@PAFarms if you do, get a wide front, if you can't find one, install an aftermarket. The trikes are tippy.
Looks like a Cat 963 953?
where does the 886 fit in? loved mine
Not sure about the rear end. But the motors were smaller. The earlier ones I think up to 78 had an international 360 engine. Great winter starter. The 78 model and later had the 358 German engine. Harder to start in winter but a quicker response on engine
7, 8, 9, & 1066/ 86 all had the same transmission and rear ends
Moving the cab forward is what made the 86 series ride so bad on rough ground. The cab according to my neighbor was designed by farmers wifes that hated their husbands. The 88 series fixed alot of the issues and finally a hydraulic clutch, a transmission you could shift after letting the clutch out and disengaging again. Imothe magnums fixed all of the problems except the cab filter over the back window.
As long as the door and window seals are good, the filter is self cleaning, every time the door closes.
The 9 has the 436 and the 10 has the 414 turbo. I am pretty sure that's correct. I know our 9 has the 436. Back in that time they were king and if they had a power shift at the time they still would be. I remember a old fellow saying that if somebody went broke and had green tractors and blue silos that's why. Lol
I posted the original version saying that and I had about 6 people correct me and say the 966 had the 414. I never noticed that. I did the valves on one once that was the 436. So it had me wondering if the later models had the 436? Either way I figured I better re upload the video so I don’t give out bad info. This one is stamped DT414 so I figured they used a 10 block, but it doesn’t have a turbo
Where I grew up everyone that had green tractors and blue silos also drove fords and were members of the NFO. We always had red and orange and drove chevy's and weren't a member of the NFO. We just couldn't see dumping thousands of gallons of milk on the ground. Oh the olden days.
966 has a 414ci. A 986 has a 436ci.
@@PAFarms l didn't know that they had the 414. We had a dealer trying to sell 1086s with 986 components. He put 1086 decals on 986s. IH pulled the plug on him.
@@oldfarmer4700 i remember them days my dad hated the NFO.
Will the 966/1066 pto parts interchange with a 986 ?
Yes
They’re the same wheelbase.
Running a deka battery in the 966
I have a 666 it has a D312 in it
We have a 806 turbo
986 is the same tractor as a 966 but 66 series rides nicer than the 86 and shifter dont give as many issues in the 66s
Yea I definitely agree the 66 is nicer to shift and has less linkage
986 had wet brakes.cab style had shifter issues when cab mounts collapsed
986 also ran the d436 instead of d414
I am a J I Case guy. A 1270 would work circles around a 966 and 986.
LOL.. It's a bigger tractor.
Yes that's why the new company is called CASE ih
knew a guy who bought a 70 series Case, he referred to it as a case of bad judgement
International in the 70 had the worst transmission Massey Ferguson was the easiest transmission to change mf always the the slickest transmission
@@arthurdewith7608 . What's wrong with the transmissions??
I think I read somewhere where IH moved forward in front of axle for a better ride. I guess sitting over, Or behind axle made for a rough ride. Anyways, I like 66,86, And 88 series there all unique in there own ways.
It's the same as the 706 ih
Oliver!
Farmall m and up everything is interchangeable actually. Also a 966 is the same thing as a 1066 expect the one has a turbo but the blocks are different a bit
Pear red now other color
Own 06,56,66&86. I HATE the ‘86 with a passion!!! Linkage sucks, rides like crap. ‘86 was the beginning of the end of IH!
86 series suck using pull type equipment. Can't even see your drawbar hooking up.
An 86 series is shorter??? *facepalm*
No they are the same chassis as a 66