FFXI 2023 Expansions Tier List

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024

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  • @ryuail
    @ryuail Před rokem +7

    Aht Urghan got robbed!! S+ only bay-be!! :D

  • @PoliceTelephoneBox
    @PoliceTelephoneBox Před rokem +3

    Adoulin's music is S tier. It really made the feel of the expansion feel like an old city that is in the midst of a revitalization. And the big bad's base music is otherworldly.

    • @7ha70n3guy
      @7ha70n3guy Před 10 měsíci

      The music is really good but there's really not a lot of tracks, it's a shame.

  • @SageAtoreis
    @SageAtoreis Před rokem +3

    None in CoP static back then was forcing anyone to click faster on CSs. It was super long adventure anyway and I don't know a single person rushing it.

    • @clamo6362
      @clamo6362 Před 10 měsíci

      you obsessively wasn't on the server I was.....loads of players flying right threw it. or any content in general

    • @SageAtoreis
      @SageAtoreis Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@clamo6362 when cop was new?

  • @atomicskull6405
    @atomicskull6405 Před rokem +3

    Lion looked like her model belongs in a different game. She just didn't really match the art style of FFXI. COP was hard but it created very tight bonds between the members of your COP static that lasted for years even long after the group split and people went their separate ways in the game.

  • @notsure9466
    @notsure9466 Před rokem +3

    One of the biggest issues with CoP was the level cap zones for sure. It really limited the zones to just the storyline and they could of added endgame content to the promy zones.

    • @Gweivyth
      @Gweivyth Před rokem +1

      As somebody who has done Chains of Promathia probably 6+ times at this point, I absolutely agree. While I understand WHY they did it, I really think it would have just been more fun overall it it was all uncapped, even when the cap was 75. The worst part about progressing thru COP was having to keep all that terrible low level gear around.

    • @jamiehav0k62
      @jamiehav0k62 Před rokem

      cop did a good job of splitting up the leveling to do actual content otherwise 90% of the game was basically standing around killing the same mob over and over again.

  • @kay6736
    @kay6736 Před 4 měsíci

    CoP added plenty. ENMs, Limbus, Jailers, Ouryu and Bahamut, and surely some others I can't recall after almost 15 years.

  • @dragumkirisute1998
    @dragumkirisute1998 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I would honestly swap Rhapsodies and ToAU.
    ToAU was hands down the best expansion. 3 new (at the time) jobs, amazing story, new (at the time) areas to explore, Nyzul Isle and Salvage... what did that expansion not have?
    I and many other people would of played an official classic 11 server if SE did it. But alas, they missed a golden opportunity for their 20th anniversary lol

  • @relentlesscreations
    @relentlesscreations Před rokem +3

    CoP not S-tier? If you played it when it dropped it was one of the hardest and most rewarding game experiences a person could have. Since being nerfed, it’s not as good, but in its time CoP easily matched or exceeded most other XI scenarios.

  • @Red-fs1jw
    @Red-fs1jw Před rokem +1

    Agree with you on wings. It sucked back in the day but grinding out the whole story in a few days made it a lot more enjoyable

  • @coltmcarthur6648
    @coltmcarthur6648 Před rokem +3

    "But, y'know...Japan."
    LOL

  • @SageAtoreis
    @SageAtoreis Před rokem +2

    There are items from mini expansions that are bis still and not really niche, especially for COR. -5 Phantom roll recast pants, -5 Quick draw recast body but also for BST -15 Call Beast recast body or PUP pet: -10% DT, 5% haste head :)

    • @ryuail
      @ryuail Před rokem +1

      As a COR main I tell anyone who wants to try the job to grab the Moogle legs for the -5 roll time. They ask if it makes a big difference, it super does.
      Can't say the same for the Quick Draw recast, give up too much power and they come up fast enough as is w/ group 1 merits.

    • @SageAtoreis
      @SageAtoreis Před rokem

      QuickDraw recast is for situation where the point of QuickDraw is to apply Empy feet bonus for nukes, which is one of the most important usage of QuickDraw in endgame.

    • @ryuail
      @ryuail Před rokem +2

      @@SageAtoreis I'd be fine w/ that if Rune Fencers would turn around during fights so their enspell dmg doesn't potentially soak up the 30% element buff. Until then 30-40k earth shots!

  • @holonholon1141
    @holonholon1141 Před 9 měsíci

    It was really cool hearing a more gameplay-focused perspective from someone who actually played through the expansions! I do have a couple of thoughts about stories though.
    The story of Zilart took me a while to come around on... I actually had it dead last out of the stories for a while, but there's actually some really cool and unique storytelling in there. To my knowledge, Zilart introduced the Artefact storylines for all the jobs, and I think it was Masato Kato exercising his skill at worldbuilding and his panoramic writing style. Good to hear that his individual mini-expansions had good writing too, I guess that's my impetus for finally finishing them!
    I also think Adoulin was a nice homage to Hironobu Sakaguchi's spirit of the series. It's very anti-colonisation and environmentalist, and I think the main dropped ball was the Velkk and their visual coding. Some of the Coalitions working against August are meant to be unethical; although I suppose it is annoying that you "have" to work with them to get your Ergons and unlock the Directives epilogue stories. I'm still going, so maybe the epilogue addresses that!
    Have a like for the algorithm gods.

  • @generaltechnomage306
    @generaltechnomage306 Před 7 měsíci

    I do wish they added an expansion that visits the Mithra's home country (the Matriarchate of Gha Naboh).

  • @ThatNerdChris
    @ThatNerdChris Před rokem

    100% agreed on how uninspired Abyssea was. I think that was when SE kind of checked out on high end production of the game tbh

    • @rashid2898
      @rashid2898 Před rokem

      To be fair i thought abyssea had nice end game content

    • @clamo6362
      @clamo6362 Před 10 měsíci

      @@rashid2898 ya and unfortunately you must complete it to even do some endgame content

  • @Skarthe
    @Skarthe Před 10 měsíci

    Mmm... I feel like a lot of the Zilart rating is nostalgia. Zilart was super important for the game at the time, but I can't see rating its content or endgame above some of the other expansions. I'm not a fan of the Three Kings HNMs system and Sky had its flaws too - for instance Ullikummi was heavily botted for a long time until SE patched its spawn method years later (during ToAU era), and that gated arguably the two most important Sky bosses in Byakko and Kirin. I think ToAU in particular had a much broader and more diverse set of endgame activities between Assault, ZNMs, Salvage, Einherjar, and Nyzul Isle. (I also think CoP's music is way better than Zilart's, but that's personal preference.)
    I agree with Abyssea's rating largely. Even as someone who enjoyed Abyssea, I think it sucked that it invalidated most of the game before it - not just the endgame, but also the levelling experience post-30. I will say that literally all of the music you'd hear in Abyssea was new, though it definitely got pretty old after a while given how much of it you'd hear in endgame at the time. (The zones had an okay new ambient theme, the battle theme was IMO one of the best in the game, and the final boss had a pretty good new theme for their battle.) It did have an overarching story that was a little bit interesting in premise, but barebones; obviously not the focus of the content.
    Overall, aside from maybe swapping ToAU and Zilart, I think I otherwise agree with the tier list.

  • @felixvelez6393
    @felixvelez6393 Před 9 měsíci

    The Crystalline/Moogle/Shantotto add-ons had at least 1 original music in each of the final bosses.

  • @clemonsjovan
    @clemonsjovan Před 10 měsíci

    Sold delves a week in was soooooo glorious mythic wasn’t really possibly to ilvl before that

  • @Lordnat1
    @Lordnat1 Před rokem

    I appreciate your videos on this game. Thanks. Subscribed.

  • @atomicskull6405
    @atomicskull6405 Před rokem +2

    Abyssea was meant to be one last party where it makes you OP and gives you easy to obtain super weapons so people could feel like they "won" FFXI before they quit and switched to FFXIV. Notice how the Empyrean stages were relatively easy right up until they decided to rebuild FFXIV and realized that FFXI would need to last for at least a few more years. The last two stages were released after that and that was when they got ridiculous.

    • @clamo6362
      @clamo6362 Před 10 měsíci

      um...no I tried to do one and failed took way to long to unlock one cause they insisted on you doing a dam zone boss like 50 times just for the 1 item you needed for next weapon unlock. and then you still got 5 more stages left

  • @tenkyoken
    @tenkyoken Před rokem +2

    Imagine teasing prime weapons for 3 years only to severely spike the difficulty for the final stage and encourage people to hold off on progression, reducing testing and information.

    • @FFXIMath
      @FFXIMath  Před rokem +1

      ya that was very disappointing

    • @atomicskull6405
      @atomicskull6405 Před rokem

      If you want an easy online Final Fantasy FFXIV exists. If you don't like the game kicking you in the balls then you don't like FFXI.

    • @tenkyoken
      @tenkyoken Před rokem +3

      @@atomicskull6405 I'm sure you're a badass that beat AV/PW prenerf without glitches, turned in the original 50k alexandrite prerequisite for a mythic, and 250 marrows/150 scoria/3000 riftcinder/dross for 99 afterglow

    • @clamo6362
      @clamo6362 Před 10 měsíci

      that's Y I stopped playing...couldn't complete the game and was sick of grinding to try and do it.

  • @Rykojames
    @Rykojames Před rokem

    Mini expansions still have BiS COR roll gear :/

  • @BaronLector
    @BaronLector Před rokem

    "a new house in the city of Adoulin." Just re-subbed. What is this?

  • @MPAbsorb
    @MPAbsorb Před rokem

    I see you really like the 1st two expansions. There’s a place not that far from here that has both as current cap ^_~

  • @Riposte8
    @Riposte8 Před rokem +3

    Overrated RotZ i think.

  • @davidtomasello3789
    @davidtomasello3789 Před rokem

    Why do you hate Warrior?

  • @pieromancer909
    @pieromancer909 Před rokem

    Not giving Adoulin an S+ for music 😐
    I bet you kick puppies as a hobby.

  • @hungdao8143
    @hungdao8143 Před rokem

    What expansion did they added trust?

    • @FFXIMath
      @FFXIMath  Před rokem +1

      Rhapsodies

    • @Suzaku455
      @Suzaku455 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@FFXIMath Well that makes it the worst expansion than.

    • @clamo6362
      @clamo6362 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Suzaku455 it finishes the entire store line. you fight final boss DARKNESS.....then its the after show with more bosses.....and that's the stupid part

    • @ImmortalDraylo
      @ImmortalDraylo Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@Suzaku455trusts were awesome

  • @hayabusa09
    @hayabusa09 Před rokem +1

    WoTG better be dead last. Edit: C No, god, please NO!

    • @danny123451
      @danny123451 Před rokem

      Wings is the best one!

    • @hayabusa09
      @hayabusa09 Před rokem +3

      @@danny123451 if you need a reason to quit yea 🤣

  • @ImmortalDraylo
    @ImmortalDraylo Před 10 měsíci

    Adoulin was the best