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- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones debate whether a non-bow season would be a failure for Deion Sanders and the Colorado Buffaloes football program or not.
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No Coach Prime Is Not A Failure But Fitting In A Loosing Football Program However Checking On His Recruits
ACHO takes was on point today
@@kennyray157318 million
Failure, Prime knows that.. Remember he brought his Loui, I'm/we're coming, we're here..Any team that loses 5 + games has failed..Prime isn't a Coach, he's a motivational speaker that wants and expects his players to play like he played, it's not happening.The majority are placing PrimeTime expectations on CU players.
Tell it like it is. Y'all jumped on his nuts only because it's prime. The Ride is over. Shady and Joy must wake up together.
Everyone keeps saying this team only won one game last year. BUT, it wasn’t this team. This team is an entirely different roster and coaching staff.
You’re right, and when you have a significant change like that, it takes time for things to mesh. You can’t turn everything around in one season.
Not to mention this team is a 2 win team talent wise. 2 of their wins were god given luck. They were out played and out coached by both of those close games that they threw Hail Marys in the end.
@@jwild5360 exactly those two games refs helped them
@@jwild5360 disagree. They lost a few games by only one score. If they had a line on both sides they would have easily won those games. So it wasn’t God given luck
@@kvngcorn4851 if they had this or if they had that. They don’t. They got out played in every phase of both games. It was luck. The 2 plays that lead to their win are like 1 in 100 plays. If put back in that situation 10 times 9 of them they loose. They are trash. The QB is nothing special either. 12 is getting cooked as well.
It’s not a failure for Prime. It’s a failure for y’all. Ya lost credibility with ya bias.
Straight facts
Acho been way off the rails all season
Boom 🙌🏽 💯
Facts
It is a failure how else do you justify not making a bowl game and losing 6 straight? Seems like you're biased for Prime regardless of his production as a coach and leading his football team
They moving the goal post lol… y’all owe James an apology
Nope. . . In business, you have forecasted the worst situation: 0-8 whole roster transfers and the worst reasonable situation is 1 win for the season. Then you have absolutely the best situation bowl game with a loss, not CFP, not a Championship. Then, in the best reasonable situation, are we better than last year, 2 wins or more.
@@Charles_842 you said a whole lot of nothing.. at the beginning of the season this whole panel said if they don’t make a bowl game the season is a failure… Don’t move the goal post now.. Colorado has elite talent with those transfers you mentioned.. I don’t wanna hear about business when people was throwing them a parade at the beginning of the season
@@nicolaswood7958facts they went crazy after that tcu win. Janes was the only one that didn’t overreact
@@jaycraig5431 exactly and I love coach prime.. even winning 3 games is an upgrade from the previous season.. but they definitely was talking crazy after the TCU game lol
Hence why they call him shady he is bipolar
"Im bringing Louie"
"We coming"
"We HERE!!!!!"
"We just need 7-8 Dawgzzz"
"This the worst we gonna be"
"We played like hot garbage"
"Just wait until next year"
“ do your believe “ 😂
Nailed it
Exactly! He set these men up for failure with all that blovoated jibber jabber!
😂 Amazing watching the goalposts change
Just like a good salesman lol
James nailed it they could of won 2 or 3 more games easily so far. Giving up almost 50 in the second half to an awful Stanford team is insane. He also kept that DC in place when he demoted his OC while he was putting up 32 ppg.
The team isn’t good😂but they still had a chance
He waited TOO long to demote that BUM!! There was a lot of STINK in that offense. The team lost these last two games because of mental errors on the players part. It had NOTHING to do with the coaching. IN fact, you saw i\IMPROVEMENT in the offense.
Joy your full of BS!!!
They also could have lost to TCU, ASU and CSU.
@@canvasyourworld882 You can't say that honestly, the O-line is no group of studs. Shedeur still got dinged up. Also, the D-line and linebackers almost don't exist. To be honest, Coach Prime's offense and defense are NFL caliber as far as "idea" if you look at the current league. RBs are non-existent in the NFL, and regardless of how many hybrid QBs are coming into the league, the most expensive position is QB, and they want you to stay in the pocket or become a 230 mil LIABILITY. College is still super physical compared to the NFL.
Prime was saying “We here” 😂
They certainly showed it competed with all those ranked teams with no interior players and everyone coming back and a great recruiting class and solid portal gain things will be coming they way they want
Leading with overconfidence was the wrong the wrong approach in Deon's first year of coaching with a totally new team.
Colorado Buffaloes record over the past few season. Since people only want to focus on the 1-11 season as if they didn't exist before last year.
2019-2020 5-7
2020-2021 4-2 (shortened season)
2021-2022 4-8
2022-2023 1-11
2023-2024 4-6 (currently)
You can't just continue to bring up last year 1-11 season and label this season a success because of 4 wins. That's basically on the same trajectory as the past 4 seasons
What disqualifies the 1-11 excuse is that those players are gone, they were told to leave and Deion hand selected 81 replacement players out of the 8,900 players that were in the Transfer Portal, and with his presentation at the awards show, Deion went on National Television advertising starters to leave their teams to join Colorado.
@@kevinstatler6190 only 20 players were told to leave. The rest of the team quit on their own. There is at least 10 players that stayed from the 1-11 team.
@@originalmhousen only 6 players stayed. So why do you think 60 players left on their own?
@@kevinstatler6190they could’ve left bcz they ain’t want to grind on prime time team other guys want to be there. So some want to be coached by him some don’t. Their Lineman can use some help and so could their receiving group whos their TE? Is he even being mentioned
Nailed it
Glad someone is spitting facts here
After TCU win- media and fans “we are winning the national championship”
During their losing streak- media and fans “be patient, it takes time to build a program”
How times have changed 😂😂😂
Facts! They had un realistic expectations with a totally new team.
Lol
If they did their job and extrapolated the data they should notice Colorado has consistently won 4-6 games the past decade. Last year’s one win team was the anomaly. They would also note they won 10 games in 2016 and won 4 games in the Covid shortened season. Finally, that team from last season is almost entirely composed of different players than this season
Exactly. At the end of the day they don't like context unless it feeds their point. They can't handle the truth lol
Facts
They keep saying last year like it’s the same team from last year.. it’s an 85-90% new roster.
You expect these Deion's Groupies to do their research. They got to protect _"the culture."_
I've been saying the same
They keep hyping up this TCU win but if I'm not mistaken TCU has the same record as colorado. So what does that really say about that win?
They still beat a TCU team that went to the national championship last season
@@user-lt1fx2he5slol not even the same team drastic changes but ok I hear you
@@user-lt1fx2he5s it doesn't matter because the players that were on thet roster are not on this years roster.... they're 4-6...
@@willsportzI know that I’m just saying they still beat TCU that went to the national championship last season
@@user-lt1fx2he5sthey lost by a 100, there trash
Had the Colorado Buffs just played with discipline, hard work and consistency, they would be easily a 6-7 win team right now
The Stanford loss is what sticks out. Also, what really sucks is they really need to step it up next year. His sons are graduating and Hunter likely leaves a year early. If he wants a qb to commit to him than he needs to build a line and win 7 games next year.
Awesome take BigMac! College football is not about your starters versus my starters. It's roster vs. roster. It takes time to build a college roster. It used to take five years. NIL and the transfer portal have reduced that to probably three years if you can recruit at a high level. There are no shortcuts here. Every college team in a power conference experiences injuries. The question becomes how far off do you fall when a starter gets hurt, and the #2 man takes his place.
yeah I stopped watching them after that game
They need more than an oline. That roster has more holes than a block of Swiss cheese
@user-tz2zz5ij1s well yeah but if you can run the ball, you can make up for a Swiss cheese defense. Time of possession and some sort of pass rush is the most important thing. I specifically said O-line because they gotta draw in a qb. Mostly the trenches though.
Shilo is already a grad student.
If you were ranked in the top 25 at any point in the season and you fail to make a bowl game…. You’re a titanic failure.
They never should have been ranked that high but they did compete with every ranked team on their schedule except Oregon with zero interior players
@@rhinodacandymanhausey5173 that whole offensive line excuse is pathetic. Talent wise, Their offensive line isn’t any worse than most of the teams ranked outside of the top 25. Do you really think Kansas has a good offensive line? Kansas is 7-3 playing their back up quarterback nearly all season. And Kansas was 10 times worse over the last 15 years than Colorado ever was. The offensive line is as bad as it is because Sanders is not good at developing them. He personally picked these players from the transfer portal. They are a failure.
@@borbafatt we will see next season can’t build a team in a few months these other teams been together for years you will see yal speak on develop but don’t want to give prime time before yal talk crazy and majority of you have never even played the game and just sitting on the couch talking well let him build and develop before you talk
@@rhinodacandymanhausey5173what happened last night?
In reality they should have never been ranked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was just an over reaction by the fans, media and the Deion effect!!!!!!!!!!!
It appears that everyone who “Believed Now” is all tied up in knots justifying a losing season. This is redeeming for all of us that predicted that Colorado would win 3 to 4 games before the season and we were called haters and even racist for predicting a losing season.
I really do appreciate the honesty of the “Speak” personalities especially when stating that “we would not be talking about Colorado today if another coach had won just 4 games” They clearly pointed out the coaching errors that helped Colorado lose the last 5 straight and most of them said yes, this season has been a failure. To be fair, With 2 games left in the season I think that it is a little early to admit that it is a complete failure.
Right
Thank you
He clearly said. " I'm bringing my luggage and it's Louie"
yeah....I guess the airline lost those bags....LOL
It was garbage bags
@@ChristopherShawnR1chlol 😂😂😅
Leave that designer brand 13:16 where it is 🤣😆🤣
@@blakelarson5005😂😂
Joy just wont say she was wrong 😅😅😅
They need to get rid of shady for never answering the question posed. He does so much dancing around not to answer you would think he was back on the field. Plus I can see how much James is ready to slap him for the “it’s hard to win a championship” comment as if James has no idea when he does.
He annoys me in general. Talks in spurts or something. I hate how he talks lol
Yeah but he funny though 💯😭
@@Dipset415 exactly, he is a 🤡 and that is why acho keeps him, it makes him look better sitting next to him.
@@SunniMerlot I know what you mean and is always “what are we talking about?” Because he he honestly doesn’t know 😅
The funniest part is that shady ain't even see the field for his two rings
Off field success is because of prime celebrity not his winning games. Prime celebrity was 90% of the reason people showed up to the side one
Like him or not, Jason Whitlock made a good point a couple of weeks ago when he pointed out that people weren’t being accurate when comparing this year’s CU team to last year’s. All of those players, save 3 or 4 are gone.
Jason said it rightly from a pure football standpoint! Nobody wanted to believe it!
jason needed 2 talk bad about deion 2 keep his rating up. while every-1 praising deion doing a good job. jason was trying 2 put him down. it's just sad, it's sad.
@Nu-Kreation was he correct tho?
@@TRUTHaintHATING I don't think so brethren.
Joy getting extremely defensive speaks volumes 😂
Shes so fuhkn annoying
Typical woman
Joy’s acting like that because she was talking about the CFP and Colorado in the same sentence back when they were ranked for a hot minute. She helped the drive the hype and now is playing innocent 😂
Everyone brings up other teams to compare. Colorado in a power 5, and had to play USC, UCLA, TCU, Oregon, Arizona, Oregon St, Utah, WSU. These teams were leaps and bounds ahead of CU to start the year.
Yeah pac 12 is stacked this year
Their schedule was NOT a cake walk!!! The PAC 12 is on fire this year with talent and Sunday players.
This is what is crazy man said UConn and Tx St😂 like what?
He also didn't get quality players out of the portal like prime did....I feel what u saying but fair is fair he coached them up at UConn my brother plays for them they were straight 🚮
@@twizzy585ful coached them up? lmao he beat CCSU, Liberty, Umass that alone should end this conversation. Compare strength of schedule before you starting chatting about coaching. CU has played all Div 1 schools I'm not even going to bring up Texas St bcs what lol
WTF... No reasonable person expects a team to go from 1-11 to a bowl game the next season (even with different players). That's insane.
Which 1-11 bcz these 1 player left from last season team what are u talking about
after week 5 EVERYONE thought they would...
People are saying Shedeur is a first round QB and they have really good WR's and some good DBs's s not too crazy to expect 6 wins.
If the media says it, you can’t make them CP’s words…. You people are hilarious!!!
6 wins isn't that hard to get, even the most mediocre teams get 6 wins. Nobody cares about the early bowl games cause its all the mediocre teams playing in them. That mediocre team could have been colorado
Joy and Shady making excuses and copping pleas for Prime. If Colorado dont atleast make a bowl game then its a failure no matter how you slice it. Even Prime would say so.
Deion: “Do you believe now?”
Reporter: “No”
Yes, it’s a failure.
Corny
🤣🤣🤣 that was one of the most awkward exchanges ever...
I’ve never seen a coach get so many excuses and have the goal post moved more then Deion. Everyone was saying they’re contenders and now everyone wants to say oh well just year one 😂😂 nah Deion ain’t it
Ok so let’s put factual information in this. Coach Deion is historically a winning coach, hate to break that to you but it’s just facts. He comes to a team that went 1-11 and gets rid off every player except a few . Championship teams have one thing in common… they mesh together, defense and offense. He has gone on record (while they were winning) and said he needs a line on both sides of the ball which proved to be correct. Once the team meshes and they start to trust eachother it’s going to be a different story. Coach isn’t the problem and neither are the kids but they don’t have any battle scars together with eachother. That’s the only issue. I’d like you to try to work your job with a bunch of new people and see if you’ll get the job as fast as u would with people that you’ve been working with for a while, it wouldn’t matter what the boss says, you’ll still be slower with your new coworkers🤷🏾♂️. Thts the FACTS. If you don’t like the coach then just say that.
@@kvngcorn4851 here comes excuses. What has he won? Couldn’t even win a championship at hbcu. Plenty of coaches go to new teams and turn their record around and definitely don’t end the season losing 6 straight games and getting blown out like he did last night. Fact of the matter is he sucks as a coach he throws his players under the bus and takes no accountability and his clock management is horrible. I don’t wanna here the same excuse of it’s a 1-11 team no it ain’t he brought his players in and said we are here after he he was winning now all of a sudden he’s losing and it’s oh it’s year one nah that’s just moving the goal post because he wasn’t saying all of that in the beginning of the season.
@@user-or8lv6ne7i u just said some of the things I said but again, go back to the beginning of the season and you’ll see what he says about the team.. he is brutally honest and he didn’t just blame the kids he blamed himself and the rest of the coaching staff, so stop with the lies. It’s literally recorded in the pressers they hold with him. Go look at them because u clearly haven’t up to this point
It’s a failure for every person, y’all and undisputed In particular, who basically claimed them to be CFP and Heisman winners after week 3. Don’t try to back track now. I don’t wanna hear “they only won 1 game last year” or any other qualifying excuses. They’re a bad team and based on this year Deion is a bad coach. Deion meat riders just hoping at this point he can recruit well enough to hide his inadequacies as a coach
All they had to do was just play smart and discipline and that’s 6-7 wins right there even without the talent part
@@user-lt1fx2he5s and playing smart and disciplined or not is a direct reflection of coaching. As the saying goes, you either coach it or you allow it. Which just further proves Deion isn't a good coach. They're just hoping that his name will help recruiting and help with the boosters to raise money. They can't win with him as a coach I don't think. We'll see I guess.
@@stewdiesalot4008 I know that because they’ve had the lead at the half in three of the four games they’ve played in and they just played bad football in the 2nd half
Shady terrible point. That team now is not the team of last year. It's his own squad basically. I know maybe at most 15 players returned. And idk if they start or not. I doubt it. He has not shown that he can develop talent yet.
It's not successful nor a failure. A brand new team that didn't play together won 4 games so far. They competed with and almost beat every team besides Oregon
I mean if you at Colorado they usually win 4 games. Last year they were just exceptionally bad. So prime didn't do anything special besides bring recruits. But regarding his development and coaching ability it is lack luster
@@jacobhayes8324 wtf you talking ? Almost beat every team ? Never held the lead in the USC & Oregon St game
😅😂 Don't forget Washington state
@@TheWirelessace OR UCLA lol
Almost beat?? Absolutely not 😂
This was a great debate. Losing 6 str8 is terrible, but Prime from jump has been saying he is several players away from being a top-tier team. He was saying this WHILE winning. The one failure was losing to Stanford, which was terrible.
Stop glazing
He also kept receipts... the warranty in the product has expired
Dude barely beat Arizona State and Colorado State, a non entity in cfb. He's lucky they aren't 2 and 10 at the end of this season
@brycepeddicord6763 If we are going to play the almost game, add 4 more wins bc they lost 4 games by a td or less. They only experienced one blowout vs. Oregon, but every other game has been competitive
Was that before or after they were flashing watches
Joy is Big Cap!🧢 Everybody expected Deion to at least make a bowl that was a No Brainier to everybody.
It’s NOT a fail, it’s a brand new team with a brand new coaching staff. Prine is a great motivator, but needs more time to be a good HC🤔
Takes time to build a college staff
@@jacobmorenzoni1873 Take time to build anything 👍🏿
Didn't Deion say "we here"?
@@jayceh1031 He did after TCU upset and we all know how bad they are this year🤣
They didn't bring Dieon to CU to be what they have been. Over the past 5 years they win at least 4 games a year. They had one really bad season but this is their norm. It's a failure.
ready to hears joy excuse
1 win and then next year 5/6 losses to ranked teams Acho crazy
I mean Colorado usually wins 4 games a year so this still isn't success. They a really bad season but prime didn't take them to above their past like 5 years norm
Ok guys there is no way this could possibly considered a failure by any standards , when you have 53 transfer players. on top of that after the first three wins the only thing that happened was they were exposed with the too light defensive line the same with the offensive line and that is the problem with Colorado. Let prime get those two things fixed and watch what happens because they have everything else in place. So if you know football I really think you will agree because the only game Colorado wasn't in was Oregon every other game they had a shot to win just remember 53 new players playing USC losing by 3 pts. They aretruly building there is nothing else you can say, and as I said at the beginning fix two things Oline and Dline and watch what happens.
When you bring in 53 transfers that are upper class men or who are going to be their 1 or 2 years. You don't have time to develop them. These are already established players who know how to play. Deon doesn't know how to coach. This team plays exactly like Dion played off flash, no toughness.
Not when you are bragging that you are bringing in your own players and they are "Louie"
He suppose to brag wth u want him to say I’m bringing in losers like last year gtfoh
New players by the coach's choosing. You don't do that unless you know you're bringing a class in. He should have watched film to see if anyone was worth keeping
@ajaywise5932 no, but to brag and call them Louie means they are the best out there and well... they weren't. Maybe he can't judge talent as well as he thought. If he gonna load up on transfers again, he better get a bunch of freshmen and Sophmores.
For the entire season I had to be told to “stop hating” anytime I or any other rational thinking human were saying to relax with this Prime over exaggeration. Y’all were ready to crown him the greatest college football coach to ever walk planet earth.
So now we need let Prime grow as a coach! You kidding me right? You were all on the hype train big time. It’s a failure as the expectation was a bowl game. Fair play to Acho for being reasonable
James is carrying this show!
No. The team only won 1 game last year. It's not a failure because he greatly improved the team
Bro they overhyped stop it
Yea. This is a whole different team My guy
If anything, the media did all the hyping… CP just talked victory and being dominant which is how he’s supposed to talk! He’s done it at every level he’s coached. He will ALWAYS talk victory because he’s a winner in life. I wouldn’t want to play for a coach that only talked of losing.
And the team the year before won 4 games so what’s your point. Every year is a different team. That 1-11 team didn’t play this year they all transferred
4 wins??? that’s what colorado does most years before last year
Growing is one thing but HE was the one who made the noise and blamed people that didn’t believe in him. Can’t have your cake and eat it too.
The same people that are now making excuses for Colorado were the same people saying they would win 9 games with a ceiling of playing in the CFP. I hate the argument that Colorado won 1 game last year because this is not the same team. Coach Prime got rid of that entire team and brought his own luggage.
Fair weather peeps
shady always dodges the question
Hindsight is always 20/20, but all the hype leading into this season and after the first couple of weeks is HILARIOUS! Talking Heisman Trophy for Shedeur Sanders and all the BS was just stupid. Prime will probably improve the Colorado program over time but people seriously need to pump the breaks!
James hit them with the Pause perfect timing.
Joy is on something this segment
They are forgetting that this is practically a total different team than last year. He got rid of 90% of those players and they transferred. 😅
1-6 in the in conference play at this point 😂
“On the field, it is a failure to me because you had opportunities to win football games and you didn’t you played bad football and that’s on everybody including the coaching staff, players”
They gotta stop bringing up that Colorado won 1 game last year.
All the players from last year are gone and they have a new coaching staff.
It’s a total new team!
Having a losing record in sports period is a failure.
All of the players from last year are not gone!
@@funnybones9321only 10 players remain from last year’s team and only 2 of them actually play. He handpicked a total of 83 players on this team and called them Louis Vuitton which is laughable. The most comical part is there’s more talent on this team than it’s been in decades but Deion isn’t capable of coaching nor developing them. He’s ruining Travis Hunters opportunity to play in the NFL by playing him so much on both sides of the ball which prevents him from really progressing at one position at this rate he’ll be lucky if he even gets drafted. Deion is easily the absolute worst coach at the D1 level.
It's not a failure and this let him know what he's needs going forward.
Idk how it's not a failure. This isn't the same team that had 1-11 record. All new players and coaches. So basically it's a blank slate. And they are on a 4 game losing streak. It's not a successful season
4 players have decommitted from CU
The fact that Deion and Colorado could honestly lose 100 games in a row and Joy will still vouch saying “I wouldn’t say it is a failure” smh 🤣🤣🤣
People will try to move the goal posts, but from the expectation CP himself set and gave to us.... The answer is a resounding yes.
Getting my Giannis voice out for this one “There is no failure”
They won 1 game last year 😂
Given the depth of the PAC 12 this season I don’t think most people expected CU this to be a bowl team. The media overhyped this team way too early. This was almost an entirely new roster top to bottom from the season before. Th is was a much more competitive team from the previous season. It takes time.
The fact that it was a new team was a strength at the beginning of the season. Deion got to put his own players in. Now it's a weakness. Ok.
Yeah under most circumstances it's still a good bounce back, especially with such a deep conference. But Prime is all about him, "best coach in football?" Trashing his players each week and throwing his lineman under the bus?? That's toxic.
100 % correct not making a bowl game is a failure. It is a disappointment and an unsuccessful second. The coach is unprepared, undisciplined and outcoached every week
Its a failure due to the way the season began. Six straight losses is bad. Not to mention some of those losses were against teams they could beat.
They should have been 6-6 or 7-5 (either or) playing in a Bowl.
Joy is actually making sense here! You don’t have off the field success without the on field success!
U do when u win early games and have a celebrity coach hyping them up. People trusted deion. Next year if same thing happens ppl would be all in. They look at deion as a winner. They trusted him.
She's just making sure she's not saying anything against Prime.Then she bought Jim Mora in the conversation well Jim Mora didn't get 5⭐ players. After TCU she had them going to the playoffs. Now she's just back tracking.
Joy's a constant cheerleader of Prime and this team
The only one didn’t play football makes the most sense day in and day out Joy😂
Those with common sense realize that Prime's game plan was simply to load on the yards for Sha-dont before the draft.
Joy & LaShady backtracking heavy 😅😅...and I'm not a CU fan but this isn't a failure but it is a disappointment
I'm a prime fan ...but failure
Joy a goalpost mover. Sick of her. Stop caping for Deion
I heard her and them literally say “Colorado can go to the CFP”before the season even started
She's the worse man, "why does it have to be one or the other if it's a failed season or not?" typical woman response refusing to take accountability 😂
@@Oxilus_BI can't stand her
I’d say it’s a failure due to the fact that they could have won a few more games and didn’t take advantage of their opportunities
It is a failure! This team didn't play with discipline with the amount of penalties they incurred and they didn't win the games they were supposed to win!
Great debate here!
Thng is Acho reasoning don’t make sense … he brought up 2 teams that won 1 game and made a bowl in sub 5 powers … Colorado won 1 game and Deion took it over in a power 5 that half way through the season was considered maybe the strongest this year and by all accounts prob 2nd strongest this year to SEC ( which is wild lol )but that’s a huge difference is tasks. Colorado has played 10 games .. 6 been against teams that was ranked at the time of playing them. So it’s not a good comparison. That said Deion can admit it’s 2 games he lost he should of won and let slip away .. if he get them he has 6 wins and thats where the disappointment is hit to compare Colorado to teams that maybe had 1 or 2 top 25 games all year isn’t a good comparison
Lots of teams have gone from awful to modestly good. Shady makes it seems like it never happens, but it does happen quite a bit.
Like who? if there are a lot, then surely you can name some.
@@krisnaneruda186 Hawaii 1989, Tulane 2022, Notre Dame 1964, Toledo 1967, Indiana 1967, SCarolia 2000, N Illinois 2021, Miami OH 1977, Baylor 2021, Houston 1976... the list goes on with at least 64 teams that have had better year over year improvements than Colorado.
@@krisnaneruda186 Even the 1965 Colorado team went from 2-8 to 6-2-2.
@@andrewc662 & going with your number - (assuming all things equal which they aren’t) 64 teams out of how many possible since the earliest team is what percentage? Would be less than 1%…
@@krisnaneruda186 There is actually more but the list I saw stops at 64. So maybe 2-3 teams a year. As far as percentages go, you should only count the teams with terrible records. I don't know the number, but way higher than 1%.
He brought in 51 new players. If he had the same squad as last year, it would not be a failure. Let’s be real, this season has been a failure and he needs to return his fancy luggage. Lol
86 new players
Whole new team
Starting 3-0 finishing the season 4-8. 1-8 in the PAC-12. No Bowl game = FAILURE OF A SEASON.
Heck no, every game they have played this season is a plus cause they were in it to win it that’s been missing from this program for years even the lost against Oregon is a winning motivational tool for next season. A first season together assembled team playing for bowl contention I’ll take it
It’s not a failure as long as his sons shine and make the NFL. We know what’s up.
So do you think he will retire from coaching once his son's go pro? Because if not then this is a failure.
@@jacobhayes8324 I was sayin what I believe he’s thinkin, I think they failed based on all the hype they got
Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy love you guys
How dare they not praise coach prime. How dare they criticize him like they would anyone else
Northwestern went 1-11 last year, and now they're Bowl Eligible, last year colorado went 1-8 in the Pac-12 and this year the same
The expectations were set by Prime and Colorado players themselves. Their mouths wrote checks their skills couldn’t cash.
There mouths or their confidence? You people expect a team to not be confident in themselves coming into a season is crazy. Prime already said ‘ If my confidence exposes your insecurities then you have a problem’.
Season wasn't a failure... it just wasn't a winning season... but a good season building from last season
But Deion said "we here" and "do you believe now?". How come the expectations changed bro? 🤣
@jayceh1031 I can't speak for you or other people's expectations....I do know this program won 1 game last yr, turned over almost a whole other team....I definitely didn't expect more than 5-8 wins.... but if the coach's name wasn't Deion Sanders everyone would praise the job that the coach is doing... people want deion to fail... again a solid season, not a winning season..... I'll revisit this convo in 2 years... once we see a team with all of his players
If he would have won four games with the same team, people would say it is a success. Prime has the most kids from the transfer portal and only won 4 games
She is amazing at back tracking.
From winning 1 game to now 4 is success. It takes time to turn around a program
Now everybody wants to wake up. But at first Colorado was winning a National Championship game this year 🤣
@@rapbrown310for real. They’re switching up as soon as they started showing how overrated they were lol
@@rapbrown310 I never had them winning a Natty ship, I had them losing a bowl game as the best outcome.
@@rapbrown310I said they could win 6-8 games this season
They also played 7 ranked teams in his first year. With a new team and staff and every team making CU their bowl game.
If any other coach in the world got five wins after the team came off of a one win season; they would be calling that a rousing success. Why are the rules different for Deion Sanders?
no they would call it better than last year they tried to play like colorado was going to do anything this year till my boys showed them who they really are after that whole season for CU is downhill
They will have a hard time even getting to get to five wins. 4 and 8 is better than 1 and 11 but it's still a poor season. I do expect them to improve next year.
@@booshday I don’t really they aren’t recruiting well
Because that coach probably wouldn’t have the ability to replace his entire team in the transfer portal
@@booshday 4-8 is a vast improvement.. Especially when every game that Colorado has played this season has been down to the wire except for the Oregon game.. How competitive was Colorado last season?
The flip flopping y’all do is insane.
bro they blew a 30 point lead to stanford at home... does anything else really need to be said.
Last year Colorado lost by almost forty points a game, playing against a PAC 12 far rom as good as they are this year. This year Colorado has lost by an average of only ten points, and that includes a blowout to Oregon. If you cannot see the progress you just aren't looking. Of course he is going to replace players. He had almost n time to recruit last year, and could only choose from what was available.
Anything is better than last year. I bet Prime is seeing these results and saying Next year will be our year to shine.
What about the year before last year , they won 4 , the past coach did the same thing
@@soda8736this is what I’m saying, people act like going from 1 win to 4 is some miraculous achievement when it absolutely is not
@@TyroneBiggums789 i want to see what they'll say this week. Lol
If this wasn't Prime they would rip the coach apart. Especially with all the hype and the players he brought in. The Louie luggage isn't getting it done right now. This is pac12 not hbcu football.
Other than recruiting, i dont see any great "coaching"
Nick Saban went to a bowl in year one at Bama without the transfer portal. Also Nebraska is one win away from going to a Bowl. CU needs to win six games to consider this a successful season
They didn't have the transfer portal rules like they do now.
You do know that Alabama was in a bowl game the year before Saban got there vs oklahoma state? Bad comparison. Prime took over a 1 win team that haven't been to a bowl game since 2017.
@@rockjm9876543210So you mean to tell me if I put Nick Saban on Colorado for this season, they wouldn’t have 6-7 wins by now?
Louisville has a first year coach as well and they could be playing for a conference title.
@@cjmack8153 The same squad that was 8-5 last year and is playing in the acc? Lol
It may not be a success by Prime's standards, but I think it could be a success for Colorado's standards. They have won four times as many games, the money that has been put into not only the football program but the school in general and now they can actually go out and recruit. Shady is right if a recruiter for CU showed up before Prime it was probably something to laugh at.
Apparently last year was a anomaly during covid rhey won 4 constantly and 2016 they got 10 wins.. So no prime didn't do anything amazing
Lol how?
Winning 4 games is a success by Colorado standards? I doubt many Colorado fans would agree. It wasn't that long ago when they had regular top 20 program and were competing for major bowl games every year.
TCU is a 5-6 football team right now. They have had plenty of close games with actual Ranked talent this year. Who would have thought that TCU game would be one of their less impressive feats.
I. I did. And I think most realistic people did. And if you aren’t in that camp, oof! You likely have gotten outed as a oblivious bandwagon fan as the weeks of this season have unfolded. 😅
The Stanford loss was the back breaker
Cancel these people please , better stories for a 16 minute session on this trash team and trash coach so far , this show is a failure.
Joy is getting to be worse than Molly
Nobody is worse than Molly and her fingernails on a blackboard voice...NOBODY!!! Kimberly Martin comes close but even she's not that bad!
I was hating on achos last take but he’s actually keeping it real. This is a failure of a season. Shady and joy are fanning out and not giving a responsible take. Since when is losing games ok?? This is about now not last year. If Colorado won 2 games last year they would say it’s almost a failure lol
Shady is so biased. His takes are starting to make no sense. Joy is getting there too.
Exactly it’s bad I barely watch the show
It's a failure but it's also a possible a step in the right direction
Didn't Deon flip Colorado's roster when he got there? How many players are left from that 1 win team?
Joy makes the show lol, "You can't change the timeline!"
The season would be a failure but that don’t mean I still don’t believe their going to be better next year
It's the man's first year..he shouldn't be expected to do too much. It's his fault he's looking bad because he came in so cocky. He and his son has many people out here rooting for him to lose because his cockiness.
If he would eat some humble pie maybe people would cut him some slack
It's funny that now this season is now a failure, but in the preseason, everyone had CU winning only three games based on the schedule. I do like James Jones point, definitely can't end the season on a 6 game losing streak.
LOL they dancing like PRIME up there. LV!