Top Thrill 2's Rules are Bad, But Just Wait....
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2024
- Top Thrill 2's safety rules were revealed this week and people were not happy. This video talks about what made people so mad, why Cedar Point did it, and what we could see in the future.
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If a locker is required for "loose articles" then the locker should be free. No excuses
Many parks do this which furthers the no excuses point. It’s not an amount CP wants to throw away that they’d collect from lockers but is it really worth busting people’s balls over. Many many many family’s will get upset over this. Gen X hates and can’t handle tiny inconveniences like getting screwed paying for a locker. No generation likes it but the people primarily brining their kids are Gen X and millennials who are gonna post on Facebook about it 🤷♂️
Spicy take my guy
Cedar Point does have free lockers inside the ride area for Steel Vengeance (though they didn't at first) and they'll probably have a similar setup for Top Thrill 2.
Universal does it free, no reason CP can’t
Pass through free locker shortly before boarding.
I don't know how much notice they had, but I believe they need to prioritize installing small, free lockers outside the entrance ASAP, ideally before Memorial day. You can easily make the larger lockers free for two hours during the slow season in May, then have smaller lockers ready to go in a month or two. And if you mention this in your press release, you also prevent a lot of the backlash.
This 'new ride' is already a cluster fuck. The problems are just beginning. 😢
I was honestly ok with all the loose article stuff (Cedar Fair’s just being cautious, making sure nothing can accidentally hurt someone) but the fact they’re charging for lockers is the real issue I have. I think if they were free or in the queue then it’d be much better.
Cedar Fair's being cautious because they want to minimize liability if someone should sue them.
I actually liked the free lockers at steel vengeance because less people would get on it who didn't want to go through the hassel, when i went Macerick and Milli were both over and hours while SV was like 15 minutes
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102I don’t want some idiot with a cell phone dropping it on the ride and having it smash someone in the face. No loose articles is a great policy.
Or do what Velocicoaster and Tron Lightcycle did; have lockers in the queue, put your loose articles there, and (next part is only from Velocicoster) have the metal detector before going further to check for phones, before you get on.
I really think thats exactly what theyll do
@@AirtimeThrills It's the smartest idea
Velocicoaster has the best locker setup I've seen so far.
Yeah, they'll do that, but they didn't plan that in advance, so unfortunately, probably not til next season.
They can't add lockers inside the queue now. There's no way to access them after you get off the ride in the current configuration.
In 2024 no roller coaster especially a “new one” shouldn’t have a free locker set up in the Queue. Regardless of what the ride experience is or isn’t. Give people opportunities to just leave stuff off the ride and get it when they come back off. Would lead to less downtime and better operations all around.
Or do what Great America does and have boxes to leave loose items in at all rides! (That's something I personally love about my home park)
That is not feasible on this thing
@Aidea._. Platform bins aren't secure and ride operators can't be expected to prevent theft, plus they increase load/unload times. People are much more likely to leave things like phones behind if lockers are provided.
@@Aidea._. That's what I was going to suggest as well. Just have those huge boxes and have them locked in for all of your things to not fly off and such.
The current Steel Vengeance setup is perfect. Wait for most of the line with your phone, put phone in double sided locker. After the ride retrieve your phone/wallet from the other side of the locker. They don't need a millon lockers because your locker is only occupied for like 20 minutes because it's near the end of the queue. I don't know why Cedar Point didn't prepare for this since they already went through it.
Idk if its Zamperlas fault.. CP knew the issues Steel Vengeance had and should have automatically implemented queue lockers. Either way, grandparents are going and will watch our stuff. Still cant wait to ride it!
Dont worry guys, I'm sure there will be enough available lockers for the thousands of people in the 4 hour line... I'm sure you won't have to walk all over the park to find an empty one....
I agree with taking nothing on. Nobody needs to be impaled by somebody’s chapstick. But yeah they need to offer free lockers asap. Thanks for the heads up on the rules though!
Went to Great Adventure Yesterday and every coaster requires you store your goods but the lockers are transferable for the day for $3. I personally like it as it makes the park less chaotic looking in the queue lines. Why is everyone acting broke all of a sudden i thought we all drive lambos on CZcams
@@JJdaSamuRai not about the cost amount, it's the fact that CP should've planned ahead or it's a cash grab.
No way is this Zamperla's fault. Everyone in the world (besides Cedar Point, apparently) knew there would be a strict no loose item policy. The lack of foresight, blame shifting and the appearance of siphoning off every last dollar is the issue here 😊
The sandals rule is a rule from Zamperla, not Cedar Fair
It’s a good rule because people who wear sandals in amusment parks are fools, they hurt and will break
They can cause major damage or death if they fall off and go flying
They have steel vengeance as an example of the way it should be done. Hopefully they can install free lockers in the next offseason.
The "we didn't always have cellphones" argument only goes so far. People rode coasters with their keys in their pockets forever. And some people carried (and still carry) a lot of keys, let alone other items.
My point is that cellphones haven't presented a brand new problem for theme parks to confront. Smart phones do because peope like to actually take them out on rides. And that's a fair point.
Personally, I think zippered pockets should be exempted from all of these rules. A shoe that is tied is more likely to come off a foot than a zipper would be to open up as a consequence of coaster forces. Heck, some blouses and girl's top are more likely to simply fly off during a ride if the riders hands were up than for coaster forces to somehow unzip a zipper.
I remember a few years back talking to one of the SV ride ops about it. While they agreed that technically if the pocket is zipped up yes it is secure, but they cant guarantee people wont unzip past getting past the metal detectors for SV, or even the ride itself, hence why the policy/
@@ussiowa4762 Which is why the policy is stupid.
@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 the policy is stupid because what exactly...? That you can't trust the population of the world to actually listen and keep their stuff in their pockets? I mean cmon. Every day at least one ride would go down cause some clown took their phone out on the ride. This policy avoids it entirely.
It’s because people take things out of their zippered pockets and try taking photos / videos and then lose their grip and the phone could hit someone behind them.
@@dteitsma I've seen this argument a lot (including in these replies) but I don't think that really explains it. This video isn't about general "no lose article" policies that we see on virtually every coaster. This is about metal detectors being used to ensure no one has any articles in their pockets. There are plenty of coasters where they prohibit you from having a cellphone out during a ride. Even plenty of inverted coasters, flyers, 4D coasters and spinning coasters that are the most high risk. Most of these across the country don't require you to go through a metal detector. Which means an obnoxious rider could pull their phone out during the ride in defiance of the policy. But they aren't forcing everyone else to buy a locker just because an idiot thinks they're above the rules.
TT2 is a high profile coaster and I'm sure the trial lawyers are going to be watching it closely. So these kind of policies exist not because they are strictly necessary. They exist because it will look especially bad if there is another injury and Cedar Point can be blamed in any way.
If policies about not taking cellphones out mid ride were the actual reason for metal detectors in queue lines then virtually every coaster (or at least semi- thrilling coaster) would have metal detectors in the queues. But they don't.
I knew this couldn’t last with steel vengeance. It definitely won’t last with this one either.
I think Zamperla is being scapegoated.
There's not much wrong with these rules other than the lockers being paid. If the lockers were free, I wouldn't see much of an issue.
how are they going to have enough lockers nearby for the entire line?
Metal detectors are a right pain in the arse for those of us who wear bras with wires.
Eh, my underwire bras have never set off Universal’s metal detectors. Hopefully Cedar Point’s aren’t TSA-level sensitive.
@@Robin-bn3hv my sandals once set off the entrance ones at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. Can’t be too careful.
@@Robin-bn3hvBe adventurous…Don’t wear a bra 🤣
@@Robin-bn3hv If they're like SteVe's they will be sensitive. I bought belts with plastic buckles but metal grommets for drawstings on my shorts set them off.
That's why I always go commando. My boobs love the fresh air!!!😂😂😂
Thanks for the content.
I believe the reason they’re in this situation is because they have ignored what Universal Studios does. That locker experience is a pleasure instead of the nonsense at Cedar Point. Had they adopted the concept instead of doing this bare bones minimum stuff, they’d be in a better situation without having to modify anything at all.
They should take notes off of Universal
They know what Universal does, it doesn't matter to them they are just trying to make money
Part of the reason velocicoaster is my number one, is that I get pumped to use the lockers
You cannot compare a park like Cedar Point to Universal when it come to offering "free" lockers.
Cedar Point along with most of the Cedar Fair chain focuses on selling season passes over daily tickets. those passes are normally paid for after 2-3 park days. At that point the pass is not longer a source of profit.
A park like Universal on the other hand sells mostly Daily Tickets. a 3 day ticket costs double to what a Cedar Point pass cost. A park like Cedar Point has to look for other was to make income. You want new rides and coaster in the future? you want them to pay their employees higher wages? they are going to charge for things like lockers. Cedar Point literally has it set up that you could pay the same price as a 3 day ticket to Universal ($285) , and it will get you entry into the park every day of the season and Halloweekends, along with unlimited drinks all year and 2 meals a day. You people are only looking at the lockers and not the price compared to get into the park.
@@jeffc1347 huh? Universal is far more expensive to attend.
I've seen that there is a requirement that if you are skinny, you may not even be allowed to ride. I remember the lap bar being in contact with my thighs on Lex Luthor: Drop of Doom.
Absolute horse shit
A lot of it boils down to insurance premiums and liability. After such a high profile incident in 2021, a lot of parks and manufacturers like Zamperla would rather erase ANY chance of something bad happening. While the incident wasn't due to a guest's loose articles, it costs less to take an overly cautious approach. It's also about PR for Zamperla. If something were to go wrong, even if it wasn't their fault, they would want to be able to say their guidelines recommended no loose articles. It's possible the leaked video of the seat piece flying off the ride made them extra cautious.
Zamperla is extremely cautious when it comes to PR. When a knockoff Disk-O ride had a deadly malfunction in India, they went out of their way to inform the public that the ride was a "forgery" and not one of their products.
Like this video says, it's all about finding a balance between satisfying lawyers/insurance companies and satisfying your customers. This is made even harder by last minute changes.
It really does sound like an unfortunate situation that no one is really happy with. At least Cedar Point seems to realize that this isn't ideal.
And they're OBVIOUSLY NOT doing anything to rectify the situation either. This park is on the downslide.
We used to set our stuff by the control desk. It was there by our seats when we got off the ride. It's only sensible to remove loose articles to ride roller coasters. I rode the Top Thrill dragster along time ago 😊
I am also thinking after a few years they will put in the free lockers once the popularity come down. Plus it might be part or the settlement to be able to reopen the ride and insurance resson
Zamperala makes guidelines which by Ohio and Federal Law cedar point follow it otherwise big fines come.
The no flop flop thing i think it because the trains are open
$3 for lockers?! when I was last at CP, they charged $10 for lockers near Steel Vengeance (granted you were supposed to be able to transfer codes to lockers nearer to the front of the park) which I thought was a lot. I've also heard the ride queue for TT2 may not be big enough to handle all the riders so that it will spill out on to the Midway. NOT ideal. I'll be waiting to see how this all works out before going there to ride.
Well the cue lines from you mentioning, and many others, are going to be worse than the original cue lines from what Top Thrill Dragster had back in 2003.
so the locker thing doesn't get abused, why can't they make you put your stuff before you get in line of your row? this might have been what you were talking about , but why can't they copy whatever they did with Steele vengeance? like you do just HAVE to be extra??
Im saying i think they will when they have the chance. It seems like they were gonna have the same policy as TTD had before where small free lockers werent needed, but after testing Zamperla recommended they have no loose articles period so they got stuck
@@AirtimeThrills I can't believe you just replied 🥰❤ I love Sophie she's so cutee
@@AirtimeThrills Well, why can't they have storage bins like many other coasters have? They already say they're not responsible for anything lost, damaged, or stolen.
CP cannot due storage bins because of the separate loading and unloading stations on TT2.
For the biggest problem is why are there not bins at roller coasters anymore. Last year I went to Kings Island and all the coasters had bins to put bags/ phones in besides Banshee and Orion which meant we had to get a locker just to ride those rides.
Because those bins are a pain in the ass. The best thing is to leave ALL THAT CRAP, EXCEPT KEYS AND WALLETS IN THE CAR.
@@timothykaczmarek5871 Water bottle and change of clothes to go to the water park?
The locker rental is crazy, Universal and many other theme parks offer temp lockers for their rides that require all loose articles be put up.
Energylandia has one of the best locker systems, nearly every Ride has locker in the queue (except some small kiddy rids) you buy one wristband for around 4€ and can locker everywhere, drop your stuff short befor you enter the station, you access the lockers from the other side after the rides and can get it back. so no one is standing around infront off your locker, because you have two sides!
or make it like "F.L.Y" at Phantasialand, get a wristband in the queue for free, locker your stuff, access the ride, and from the other side after you exit the train you can get your stuff back!
I don't get the policy around flipflops being banned. If they're worried they'll come off and hurt someone, have people store their shoes on the ride platform kind of like how most inverted coasters do. Also yeah they really should've planned ahead with doublesided lockers after all the drama with Steel Vengeance
This ride will have a separate load and unload station so storing your shoes on the ride platform doesn't work.
@@Silverdollarcityfan630 either way, I'm sure they could figure something out. Heck, maybe even just have double sided lockers with enough room to put your shoes
The only solution is lockers at the end of the line like veloci coaster
Great video! I enjoyed watching! Sounds like they are being super strict because of the 2021 incident / accident.
So I got to ride this twice at a preview event this week (supposed to be one per person, but my wife couldn't ride, and by law I had to use her pass). On the locker situation - from where the lockers are, it's about an hour to the station, barring breakdowns, puke cleanup, and such. Dispatches were consistently about 1:30, which at 20 riders per train puts it at 800 riders an hour. There were two moderate delays while I was there, about 15 minutes each. When the line is moving, it moves pretty good. I didn't need a locker thanks to my wife, but from what I could see it didn't look like there were a ton there. Maybe there will be enough, I don't know. But on a busy day I could see them all being taken.
For where they could put a Steel Vengeance type free locker bank in the line - I'm really not sure. There are places you could theoretically put it, but getting a path back to them for those exiting the ride could be tricky. It's going to be possible with some planning, but it's not going to be a quick fix. I would still anticipate over the offseason they'll make it happen, somehow.
For the ride itself? I thought it was a significant upgrade. Rode in the next-to-last row first, and the front seat second. Both were amazing, and I thought both were far better than their TTD equivalents. I would've been happy liking it as much as the original, but it wasn't really even close.
I haven't been to Cedar Point in years and with top thrilled 2 opening I don't plan to go anytime soon. Just way too crowded.
And truth be told there's other MUCH BETTER rides at Cedar Point than this overhyped abomination.
The actual problem here is that people can't cope with the thought of separating from their phones for more than 2 minutes. Like, what would you need on your body in a roller coaster line, realistically? Your car keys? You're not driving...You need your wallet? There's nothing to buy in line...save for the occasional vending machine which almost certainly takes cash...You're thirsty? Great bring a bottle of water and throw it out before you board. There's quite literally no reason to even care about something like this unless you're thinking explicitly about your cell phone. I say get over it.
Thank you. The last time I was at the park, I got a locker that you have a key and take with you and had it all day. I can swap lockers in a different area of the park too. Talk with people, practice being social. If you want off ride photos/videos, get them before getting in line for the queue.
There are lockers right outside the queue. They were free during the preview events, and I imagine they will ultimately be free for all, as well. They may need to add more lockers, though, depending on how big lines get
The lockers in the queue line for Steel Vengeance are definitely free so I’m sure the ones for TT2 will be free as well
Most rollercoasters in australia don’t let you have any loose articles. This little girl wasn’t allowed to ride because she had a bag for medical reasons.
i get that they cant install lockers just immediately, but why not like.. temporary boxes or something to just drop stuff in like what rides used to more commonly have
Did it ever occur to you that CP did this intentionally from the start, blamed it on the manufacturer and will use all the money they make on the locker rentals this year to pay for the new locker system in the off-season, plus getting good publicity for 'making the change'. That sounds more like what probably happened to me.
One thing I dont understand is why zipper pockets are somehow NOT ok.
Because most parks just find it easier to have a 1 size fits all approach
In this day and age, there should be free loose article lockers in the queue for every major ride regardless of that ride's policy, as a service to guests who want a secure place to deposit their phones, etc. before boarding. Platform bins aren't secure and ride operators can't be expected to prevent theft. I suspect most people would happily leave their loose articles if they knew they were secure and weren't being charged extra for it. Even if CP wasn't planning such a strict policy, they should have incorporated lockers into the queue as a matter of course.
I totally expected metal detectors, but I also totally expected the free lockers like with SV. I would be shocked if the park actually didn't see this coming. The line for this ride is going to be insane. I don't know how they'll have enough lockers to handle 2+ hours worth of people. For me, I'm not planning to go to the park this year anyway, and probably not next year. Cedar Point has become such a pain to visit. I'd rather go to the Kings parks. By the time I get back to CP, I'm hoping that they'll have the free lockers in place, and that TT2's average wait time will have dropped down to 4 hours.
I'm definitely rope dropping this and never coming back
Kings Island is SOO MUCH BETTER THAN CEDAR POINT
Here’s my hot take on the no loose articles as someone who used to sit out top thrill dragster while the rest of the family rode it becauseI was the chicken.
While my family was in line I was “old enough” to wonder the park on my own. And by old enough I mean the first time my parents didn’t know I wondered away from the bleachers to marathon witch’s wheel. The second time I was old enough to do what I wanted. But my dad gave me my mom’s phone in case something happened while I was waiting for them. And they would be gone for hours cause the ride would break down. It was the safest way to allow my family to ride while still letting me do what I want.
Now a system like that couldn’t happen. Like yeah my dad could put the phone in a locker and contact me afterwards, but let’s say I fell or needed help how would I contact them? In same ways makes it less family friendly or at least less chicken friendly. Does that make sense?
I d get the need to keep phones off the rides. I literally yelled at my sister for this cause tried to take photos on Grizzly at CGA and it pissed me off. But do what Steel Vengeance or Twisted Timbers does and put the small lockers in the que near the loading area.
I get you. My group always splits up and it would be hard to go completely dark for a long period of time while in line for a ride like this
The lockers won't be a problem when i visit since my grandparents are coming, and they can just watch our stuff when we ride. It's funny to me that you have to pay for lockers here, but for Tron, they're completely free.
Watch the video and they explain the situation. It's not really a great comparison to bring up TRON--Steel Vengeance would've been the better comparison but even CP clearly explained why they couldn't do that. I swear, no one friggin reads...
@@ThousanWhite I'm saying it's funny that top thrill 2 has paid lockers and tron has free lockers because disney usually likes to upcharge everything.
@@ThousanWhite It has nothing to do with reading, what they said is total BS, they are just trying to make more $ by what is basically scamming people.
Although Universal Studios Japan has crazy long queue, but the ride lockers are all free
I honestly couldn't believe that they didn't forsee this and work double sided lockers in from the beginning...makes more sense if they were caught off guard by Zamperla. Still, I think it will be the norm going forward on any major ride to force metal detectors, and parks should just plan for double sided lockers up front. If the higher speed and airtime over the top hat is what drove this change in policy, I say keep the airtime, and I trust they'll figure out a double sided locker solution in due time.
Could the setup the lockers where you scan your pass or the lockers attendant gives you a barcode to scan that opens the locker like they do at Universal?
I think the solution is simple. First riders just need to come to terms with modern coasters are not safe for loose items, and just arrive at the park with that expectation. Secondly, parks should charge a single small flat fee to use any locker in the park all day.
Personally, i don't take my phone on rides not because of any rules, but because i don't want to lose it.
If youre gonna make everyone put their stuff away i would argue you shouldnt charge for that. Parks these days MAKE you use your phone for stuff, like flash passes, or when i wanted to do dc rivals backwards, that was the only way. Plus most people have car keys and thats unavoidable
@@AirtimeThrills well I have issues with parks requiring the use of phones.
In the UK we have loose article areas. More modern coasters have staff on hand with a coloured and numbered wristbands in a dedicated room by the queue line. Older coasters have just cages on the exit side of the station. Or on duel loading stations, cages in the middle with sliding gates
Hershey Park does this system right most coasters have drop bins or free lockers at the platform or right before the station in the queue. Come on Cedar Point.
I thought it was insurance mandating all of these locker policies. Steel Vengeance is an absolute pain in the butt to wait for. That line que needs redesigned asap to drop people into the lockers ASAP after the fast lane merge point. Do away with that wretched tunnel and the split lines afterward. The TSA can literally get you thru metal detection faster at an airport.
YES!!! And they need to make the fast lane go straight to the station again and NOT merge us into the regular line a half hour before the damn station. Yes, that is BEYOND annoying. Fast lane line should be separate all the way to the station. I'm not trying to sound too entitled, but we do pay $1,000 for all season fast lane, and a daily fast lane on the weekend there is sometimes $200. Charging those prices, it should be straight to the station.
@@Spike-sk7ql Fully agree as I usually buy season fast lane too. It's probably my favorite ride at CP, yet I get on it maybe once every 4 times I go. Such a pain in the butt.
@@Spike-sk7ql It's funny because back in 2010, we my second older brother and I had disabilty passes, we used to go towards the exit of the attraction, not the fast pass nor the entrance to the cue. It was much quicker than standing in line, but you couldn't pick any seat that you wanted so, you were given what the employers told you.
@@SuperFlashDriver I used to use that line too with my wife as she is visually impaired, and is a type 1 diabetic whose sugar levels will crash in an instant. After 2020, that all changed. CP was doing the whole "access pass" to ride Millie, Maverick, Vengeance, and Dragster. Well somehow everyone else found out that you didn't need an access pass to ride if you had fast lane or were using ADA. Now, cedar fair just refuses to do anything about the BLATANT abuse of their system. Six Flags, Universal, and now even Disney are making your doctor file for you with a 3rd party. Everyone I know who uses the ADA sheets at parks has zero problems doing that too. Six Flags ADA lines are non existent. Every cedar fair park has ADA lines longer than the standby line anymore. It has been brought to CP, KI, and Cedar Fair people, and all they say is "we know, and we are looking into ways to prevent that". We'll you're NOT looking too damn hard then. It just sucks for people who legit have NO other option. Like my friend with MS and is chair bound. She has fast lane too, but that does you no good when you have to wait for an hour just to get your paper signed. It's ridiculous, and the fact that after 4 years of abuse, and it being brought up, that NOTHING has changed. Well, I take that back. It's gotten WORSE.
I'm going to be very cynical: these rules were probably advised by Cedar Point's lawyers. After all, if someone's loose article came out and injured another guest, that injured guest will likely sue the park (because they are the ones with the deep pockets) and the park doesn't want to be taken to court, found liable, and have to spend money on court costs, attorney fees, and having to pay damages to the plaintiffs.
It's clear that this isn't about safety so much as about covering their asses to avoid liability.
Really all I care about is the ride experience
I’m surprised nobody has invented a camera with the ability to see through the restraints to tell if any items are in people’s pockets before the train leaves the station. The simple times of leaving your stuff in bins in the station could return just like that.
Does the phone stuff apply if you have zipper pockets?
On the matter of figuring out the queue line and lockers, honestly I think 3 months is reasonable _because they've already done it before with Steel Vengeance._ It shouldn't take them two years to implement a second instance of a system they already have, and if it does, there's something seriously wrong.
Ngl, I think the lockers should work like the Aldi carts. U put money in, but once u return, u get ur money back. In this case, the only way to get ur money back would be by getting it from the other side, forcing people to ride it in order to get the locker.
It's effectively an upcharge attraction with no queue lockers
They clearly didnt learn from how they botched the rules for STEVE
Thats what I thought at first also but now that its apparent they wanted to be more lenient, they just got left in the lurch and now have to catch up with the SteVe policy
@@AirtimeThrills it's definitely obvious they were stuck between a rock and a hard place. It doesn't help that their image has seemingly been slipping over the past 5 or 6 years anyway
@@dubvuchyea502 my guy the park is still awesome.
@Silverdollarcityfan630 it is, but its been regularly discussed that operations and the overall experience has gone down over the last few years. It's still a great park, but it's completely fair to point out flaws
@@dubvuchyea502you're right. CP is my home park, and KI has beat them every year in "where would you rather be for park experience". Getting even worse this year with this, and kicking Tofts out of the park, and banning the Sandusky Register from media day tomorrow.
WOOHOO! Airtime Thrills vid on a tuesday! Keep up the great work!
Universal has a strict no loose article rule for all of their bigger rides, so they have lockers integrated into the line, Velocicoaster has lockers with doors on two sides so you store your items before the ride on one side then when you get off you grab your items from the other side it's seamless. Disney even has free lockers in the line to store loose articles with the same system for Tron.
i was on valraven and someones sandle flew off, it was a huge issue they have also stoppped the ride a few times to have them take them off,
1. Love the shoe rule.
I hate when I get in a suspended coaster or a wing coaster and there are shoes all over the loading station
2. The locker thing sucks bad.
Waiting in line w no communication or water for maybe up to 3 hrs sounds crazy.
3. IMO they need to re do a bunch of their lines.
The fastlane for millennium force is stupid for starters, you still have to wait at least 30 mins even after the merge gate
How hard would it be to build another bridge from the main path to the unloading station to ease that process
Or since Steel Vengeance already has two lines after the lockers maybe make one of those a fast lane line
Some of us have to save for these trips like we’re going to Disney and get all the extra upgrades to make it worth our time and drive.
Sucks when I get there and even w my fastlanes I’m waiting 30+ mins for the best rides and even the ones with the special fastlane.
Add in this year your fastlane only gets you one ride on TT2 and it’ll still take hours..
Yeah Maverick has a good fast lane but I don’t think it’s ever worked all day
Gatekeepers is decent, Raptor and Valravyns are good but nobody is driving four plus hours for those coasters
Maybe, they should have a lane for NARCASISTS as they think they are more important than everyone else. And that will probably be about the same wait time.
I get charging for larger lockers for bags. But charging me to put literally just my phone and keys in a locker is kind of ridiculous. Give us a free option for the stuff that just goes in our pockets.
It's just wild that they didn't plan for this from the beginning. It's such a short-sighted strategy, all to save the cost of a bank of lockers big enough for however many trains worth of guests plus the station etc? Now they need enough lockers for the entire queue? Hershey planned properly with Wildcats and it works great.
Having worked steel vengeance with the free lockers inside, as much of a genius system as it is people will always complain, even though they’re free, now imagining having to tell people that the lockers for this ride are not free whatsoever and you’ll soon realize why there’s a fence completely surrounding the highway crossing from the dorms…
Does this count as one of your 2 weekly videos
So then what about all the crocs people (I am NOT one of them). But those have a strap but are very loose and fit like flip flops. They are gonna have some arguments on their hands if loose crocs can ride but not flip flops. Good luck CP
The *only* actual policy change is the shoe policy. Lockers *were already required* and you can buy a transferable one.
Metal detector is 'new' but not a policy more of a security measure.
You used to need a locker for your bags/bottles but you never needed to ditch your keys and phone before you got in line. You could ride with your stuff as long as it fits in your pocket.
The glasses strap rule I’m familiar with as the same rule has applied to me on Pony Express and Ice Breaker. The first time I went to Knott’s I didn’t know this but we got the strap for my second visit and it worked great.
Yea the glasses strap rule makes perfect sense and should be standard practice. I've been hit in the face by someones glasses while riding a coaster and it is not fun.
@@blatherstv pretty sure a lot of parks are making that rule happen. i think over georgia when i went had that ruler saying any coaster required you to have a athletic strap for your glasses. also pretty sure bush tampa has it too.
Glasses with a strap is huge. Glad they allow that. My typical strategy is hook my keys to my belt loop like a key. Impossible to fall off unless the belt loop rips. Then zipper pocket my wallet and phone. It is unfortunate that this does not work anymore. I can leave my phone in the car and just carry a couple cards and leave the wallet, but I need a key. When I get a car that does not require a key, then I will be set.
In all honesty, I’ve been using a hip bag and renting a locker the past few years. The $5 for a few hours sounds like a lot, but the system allows for changing lockers throughout the park, and the time remaining transfers with you.
I am a prolific flip flops at theme parks wearer, and I never had so much trouble as I did at CP. Why don't they just get those bins to put your shoes in like every other park?? granted I know rides like Millennium force and TTD let you out at a different location than the onboarding but it still is a bit frustrating when like you said theres literally a park built next to a beach and they didn't consider flip flops.
Lockers are inside ride queues in steel vengeance for free you take your stuff out on the other side. Sure they will do the same for this.
That’s what I was going to say, they have had lockers inside for free for a couple years now.
Do you have any idea how many people are gonna be riding tt2? They would need a crazy amount of lockers for what's coming up when the park opens.
The Incredible Hulk coaster at universal has the same set up, lockers are outside the gate, but they are still free and not abused. You are given a time limit based on wait time for the ride.
I understand not wanting loose items on that ride but I have always stored my phone/wallet in my cargo shorts pockets with buttons holding everything in.
I have not once had anything even come close to flying out over the years even on kingda ka
Being a cedar point employee this will suck, but I do believe it will change as it did for steel vengeance, just have to deal with it for a year.
Hope you don't work tt2, or you're gonna want to quit on day one. Those poor people are gonna get yelled at all day.
@@Spike-sk7ql oh yeah I’m not working in ride operations LOL
I've personally always thought that Six Flag's shared loose article storage systems seem to work well enough most of the time
I remember that when I went to CP in 2021, the locker code was transferrable between rides. So you weren't paying a locker fee for every ride. It was more of a one time cost for x hours.
They still have that option. It's a good idea to get one if you carry a bag. As you're gonna need one at Millie, and Magnum too. Needed it for the OG Dragster too.
@@Spike-sk7ql best thing I did the last time I was at CP
@@amykolterman3744 I wish they still had the season pass movable lockers still. The only ones they offer now are the ones in front.
Does cedar point have a paid moveable locker system like Kings Island has? If so, no big deal. I liked that system. I didn't have to worry about my stuff and the prices were reasonable.
well I can say is hope their staff doesn't get punch out by any guest at the park otherwise cedar point will be losing employees faster then they guest for this and honestly cedar point is the spoiled golden child of the cedar fair chain and honestly cedar point is just not on my bucketlist and I've lost interest in going there.
That's why KINGS ISLAND IS SOO MUCH BETTER THAN CEDAR POINT
Not thrilled 2. But it's only for one year at most - it has to be corrected in the offseason. My wife gets severe motion sickness so she hardly rides anything there, so she's used to holding our stuff and enjoys reading while we ride, so this doesn't affect us much - other than not being able to communicate with her while in line. Steel Vengeance is pretty good in that respect, I can text my wife right before putting the phone in the locker, and she knows we'll be out in a few more trains. It will be nice next year when they have similar lockers installed near the station.
And I know CP was kind of stuck by Zamperla's late recommendation change, but come on. How do you not plan to incorporate that from day 1? I just figured it would be standard for new major attractions from now on, but alas.
Personally, I wish Cedar Point would have kept the original name "Top Thrill Dragster" and add the 2 next to it. Personally, If I ever make some sort of monster or cartoon character out of it, I would keep the original name and add a 2 next to it, with his/her own unique human name and monster name along with it. This top thrill 2 ride is like taking the most popular attraction at Kings Island "The Beast" and turning it into a worse version of it and calling it "The Beast 2" or "Son Of Beast". This attraction is literally the "Son of Beast" situation, but my concern is the metal detectors when entering the area (that is going to be a pain in the butt considering we have metal detectors at every park entrance, and now have to waste money and people's time going through the metal detector's gates yet again every time they go through the Top Thrill area. Personally, My ride attraction idea back in 2012 named "The black hole time machine" would have included 10 trains (each of them being different trains) to give people different experiences of riding the coaster that way, followed by launching off alongside Top Thrill Dragster, then heading into a black industrial building, a reference to both Skull Mountain at Six Flags Great Adventure and the defunct Disaster Transport/Avalanche ride at Cedar Point from 1985 up until 2011/2012, in pitch black darkness. Followed by another braking and launching spot to go all over the park, then another spot where it breaks and launches again, but going up nearly a 300 foot tall loop next to Millennium Force, with the final one having the tallest, steepest part of it all, a coaster track height of 600 feet into the air, similar to Top Thrill Dragster, and then coming back to the station next to cedar point, with the station built above Top Thrill Dragster's station and such. But that was an idea I had that doesn't exist unfortunately.)
In the uk the themeparks have a rack on the station where you can put your stuff. Its completely free. If they are required then they should definitely be free.
Lets talk about the rule not mentioned, but a big one.... I have the all year fast lane, but if someone comes to the park for one day and grabs it, they can only use it once on TT2.... Love or hate fast lane, I could see people really getting pissed over it.... Also, the scanning of the wristbands..... Should be done right at the begging of the Que, not literally at line merge or in some cases right at the ride.....
Damn they’re making us pay for the extra 50 ft of the spike that’s not needed? Some guests will get a rude awakening when they get there.
absolutely inexcusable
They should do what universal did with velocicoaster and have the lockers as part of the line
The problem is I need to keep my phone with me at all times for personal reasons so I’m worried that they won’t make an exception
Yeah i really doubt theyd make an exception for any reason
Maybe if it were a medical device, but not for personal use. Like my wife's phone is also the display for her CGM, and controls her insulin pump. That's allowed.
Charging for lockers wouldn't be such a hard sell if they made all proceeds go to the care and wellbeing of Rachel Hawes.
Didn't that lawsuit already get settled? Trust me, she's fine. She doesn't need any more money.
Only lockers I’ve encountered so far were on TRON at WDW. Worked great
i juat wanted it to have an airtime hill. 😭😭😭
I walk around amusement parks all the time in flip-flops. In fact, I've purposely bought a pair that is super comfortable for this purpose. I only wear them at amusement parks and no other time. Also, being a runner, introduces you to the world of awesome footwear. There are these great flip-flops called Archies which have to be some of the most comfortable things I've ever worn
Sorry, but the excuse of this being a last minute change to safety requirements is highly doubtful. As you mentioned, they went through the growing pains with SteVe, and with repeated occurrence of people getting whacked by cell phones on standard coasters, the idea of this one being more of a risk seems like common sense. Very poor planning on their part. I also noticed no comments on the Cedar Point press releases of the safety info regarding hats and ballcaps. You are allowed to bring these through on SteVe but have to put it down your shirt at train loading. I emailed CP and got a response that hats will also not be allowed past the TT2 entrance. You know, because if a ballcap flew out of your shirt and hit someone in the face, it might bend a whisker. Oh, and the time you paid for a locker at SteVe was because the free ones were down for a couple of weeks. And while they are a bit clunky at times, they are free and you don't have to strip yourself of all loose objects until you are about to head up to the loading area.
No hats in line either? Thats just absurd. Ive never seen any ride like that. Hope yall enjoy that sunburn in the 3 hour queue
I had to pay for a locker because my daughter had something too big for the freebies. Those were definitely working when i was there
@@AirtimeThrills I hope to avoid the 3 hour queue, as I'm an all-season fast lane holder. I'm in my mid-50s and my days of waiting 2-3 hours for anything are behind me. But to be on the safe side, I load my bald head with sunblock before I head to the park. I am looking forward to trying this ride, and hope the up time is far better than the extremely unreliable Dragster.
@@AirtimeThrills Ah, ok. The free lockers were down for a couple of weeks last year and people were up in arms about being pushed to the pay lockers prior to the entrance. While I just dealt with it since I knew it was temporary, the issue was there weren't enough lockers and you either had to stand and wait until a group came off the ride and released their lockers, or you left and came back later and hoped for an available locker to use. I don't recall how many lockers are outside of the TT2 area, or if they have installed more for this issue, but it will increase people's upset if they run out of available lockers at this location.
@@rubellanremasters3888 theyll need a ton of them. Rip ride Rockit and Hulk deal with this so its possible
It's whatever if we can't bring our stuff on the ride with us but the lockers need to be at the front of the line not before you get in it. I ride a lot of stuff by myself and it's such a freakin drag to be sitting there for 2 hours with nothing to do but wait.
I was the locker attendant for the lockers right next to ttd and magnum , most problematic lockers in the whole park computers would clog charge you for lockers then not give you the paper slip
Yeah like when i was at gadv and jokers lockers wouldnt actually lock. I was so mad
@AirtimeThrills was a horrible system really long summer of angry people and me pointing out the flaws to management and the common issues
UK theme parks have free luggage storage on almost all their coasters. There is no reason to charge for lockers except as a money-grubbing scheme. And when im paying that much for theme park tickets, parking, and possibly food/drink, there is no way I'm prepared to pay for lockers or storage too.
If my phone is my pass, i need a place for my phone when i ride
Errrr get the plastic one....
Six Flags Great Adventure has had the same guidelines(minus the shoes) for years for El Toro, Kingda Ka, Joker, and Jersey Devil 🤷♂️
Ah, the good ole "Another place has terrible rules, so that makes it okay that this place makes the same terrible rules"
Do those coasters have metal detectors though?
@Silverdollarcityfan630 I've had exes stalk me less than you 🤣 is Missouri that boring?
@@Silverdollarcityfan630 my comment about a rollercoaster meant entirely too much to you. That's actually pretty sad, but live your life ❤️
@Silverdollarcityfan630 how's it feel being excited for a ride that's down for an extended closure after 8 days? I can tell you it's comedy for someone who wasn't.
They blocked out the Sandusky newspaper for media day.
Also kicked a Sandusky staple, Tofts ice cream out of the park for shitty blue bell ice cream. Way to support local businesses. Also the Sandusky Register can't go to media day, but I can? I mean.... I'm still going, but that's BS
I rode Maxx Force at SFGA and they had a cheaply made plywood box for everyone’s stuff. They had one going for each train. It was easy
What happens if there’s a roll back after the 2nd launch?? Would the coaster be safe going further back the spike??
That's something I brought up last year when this coaster was introduced. One person mentioned it may not happen because the launch may be faster the second time than before, but I also do wonder if the coaster could balance itself just right to get stuck at the top of the arch nearly 425 feet in the air as well.
Didn’t steel vengeance require lockers briefly that cost money? THEN they added the free ones in the line? I honestly forget