Bought a 1978 Evinrude 4806e 4 hp. The little thing idled like a champ at slow speed and while not being fast by any means, served us well during a recent fishing trip.
They're wonderful little motors. I have a few of them and one of the first few motors I bought for my collection was a '69 Evinrude Lightwin 4hp. They're not gast by any means, but they are great running little motors and typically idle nicely. This one had a factory casting flaw that was probably covered by paint and allowed it to pass inspection and test run at the factory. Once that was fixed, it dod very well. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thanks for the quick reply. We bought it used for this trip, it looked to be in nice shape, and I was surprised to see how slow we could troll with it. Still have to learn how to «play» with the slow speed adjustment, but aside from that, it was a good investment at CDN$300 split three ways, haha! Especially since renting a motor was well over $125 each year. It also seems to be very fuel efficient! Next tank, I'll mix it closer to 45:1 or 40:1, as per suggestions I've seen floating around.
@@hugolafhugolaf These are super trolling motors and woth the weedless angle drive gearcase, they really handle weedy water well. Yes, this was a good investment considering the cost to rent a motor. I usually run mine on 24:1 and since the carburetor is adjustable it can be set for optimal running for whatever mix you run. 40:1 will be better than 50:1 since these motors don't have any rolling bearings on the connecting rods.
@@hugolafhugolaf I have not yet tested the right angle "High Thrust" gearcase directly against the weedless angle drive for top speed. I can definitely say that the performance in the weeds is not very good with the right angle drive and is excellent with the weedless drive. These motors aren't very fast anyway. May as well have the superior weedy water performance.
Thanks to you and some other CZcams guys, I have my 1954 15hp Evinrude running. Needs a little fine tuning. Total so far $125. Insert smile emoji here. Thank you good sir.
You are very welcome. Congrats on getting your motor going. Fine tuning will get done too. That's a great motor and for $125 it's hard to beat that for your money. Thanks for watching!
sorry to be so offtopic but does anyone know a method to get back into an Instagram account..? I somehow lost the password. I would love any assistance you can give me
@Nehemiah King I really appreciate your reply. I found the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process now. Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
I have 3 nice running 6hp Evinrude Fisherman outboards. They are the ones that really got me started in this hobby. Great little motors. Thanks for watching!
Ya, this one turned out to be a bit more of a challenge than I expected. It turned out well in the end though. It'll be back on a boat and going fishing again now. That's a good thing.
Yes, I did a series of tune up videos for Classic OMC outboards on my 1959 Evinrude Fastwin. One of the lower unit videos shows me pressure testing the gearcase. Thanks for watching!
Hey bud, found this great video as I am looking at buying one in my area BUT the owner says it is "Forward Only" and the motor has to be 'turned around' for reverse. Having never owned a motor in my life & not wanting to make a hundreds of $ mistake....it this a correctable problem or just what is going on do ya think? Thanks much for your input!
These are very nice little motors. They are direct drive and do not have a shiftable gearcase. They are, indeed, forward only. Reverse is attained by rotating the motor 180°. There is a reverse lock on the swivel bracket and exhaust housing to prevent the motor for tilting itself out of the water when running in "reverse". This is not a mistake to be corrected, but is the design as it was intended. It makes for a very simple, durable, and lightweight fishing motor. Thanks for watching!
That is the low speed mixture screw for the carburetor. It adjusts the amount of fuel that the idle circuit flows so the mixture can be dialed in to get the best low speed run quality for the present atmospheric conditions. Thanks for watching!
Actually most of the weed problem I have is chara as well. The Aquashade does a decent job of keeping it at bay. I have a lot of it just below the surface in much of the pond though. That stuff is definitely a problem.
I used Berrymans Chem Dip. It does a fair job but it ain't what it used to be with the original formula. OMC or Mercury Power Tuner is much more effective. You can overdo that stuff but it works and works a lot faster than Berryman's. Thanks for watching!
thanks for your tips repaired a 4 hp johnson next project is a 20hp mariner but can't find anything on it some say it's a mercury some reckon it's a yamaha
Glad to hear my tips were helpful. The little 4s are neat little motors. Mercury marine owns the Mariner outboard line. Many of these were indeed built by or jointly with Yamaha. I'm not very familiar with these and the years they were produced. Check out AOMCI.ORG and post your motor info and questions on Ask-A-Member. Someone will be able to help you out. Lots of helpful and knowledgeable folks in the club. Thanks for watching!
I really have no idea what that coil even looks like without looking it up. There may be a substitute replacement. You may try to find a used coil too. You could place e want ad in the free classifieds on AOMCI.ORG as well and see if anyone in the club has one available. Thanks for watching!
I have the exact same motor. We use is for trolling on my grandfathers 16ft tri hull. It doesn't idle as slow as I would like for kokanee fishing. I have tried to adjust the carb. Should I try soaking the carb? Thank you for your help with this problem. Grandpa Williams has passed, and Kokanee Salmon fishing with his boat is really important. I am taking his great Grandsons fishing to carry on the family traditions. Thank you!
Not knowing when the last time was that it had a tune up, I would recommend doing new points and condensers, setting the new points, new spark plugs and giving the carb a soak, a thorough cleaning, and putting a new BRP Evinrude kit in it. Once that is done you should be able to adjust the low speed mixture for an excellent idle. Thanks for watching!
I am guessing the BRP kit is the kit with the new points and condensers. My grandfather has owned this motor for over 30 years. I changed the impeller last year, and it had never been changed. I doubt it has ever had a tune up, besides a spark plug. We do run the gas out of it before we put it away for the winter. I will let you know how it turns out. Thanks again!
@@nathanmutz2881 It definitely needs a tune up if it has been that long. It also needs a water pump impeller before it gets run so the old one doesn't break up and cause blockages in the cooling system. The BRP Evinrude is the OEM brand kit. It is the best quality available. I recommend that over aftermarket like Sierra or something like that. Available at your local Evinrude dealer and online from Marineengine.com or other sources. Thanks for watching. Great little motors when runnimg right.
It was idling erratically. That was my first clue there was a leak. I made a video of it like that but never posted since I wasn't done yet. I put it back in the barrel and worked with the idle again and I saw it puffing fuel mist into the lower cowl. I appreciate the compliment on the work. I had to work for it on this one.
How much water should come out when running full throttle? Also I was out on the water today. Was running great than it would die. Cowl was warm to touch. . It would start back up run for 2-3 minutes then shut off again
There should be a heavy mist coming out of the holes. If you don't know when the impeller was last changed chage it. These motors do run pretty warm. Yours may be running too warm. You may also want to check your fuel pump. Thanks for watching!
Does that motor have a pee stream? I have the same motor and recently got it going and noticed no pee stream, was thinking impeller but I didn’t see a stream on yours
No tell-tale stream on these motors. They have exhaust relief holes along the back side of the exhaust housing that will spray a heavy mist of water out with the exhaust that escapes through them. The rest of the water goes out with the underwater exhaust. That mist is the only form of tell tale that exists on these motors. Thanks for watching!
I usually set the high speed at 1 turn out and the low speed at 1.5 turns out from lightly seated. These settings will be rich and will have to be leaned out for beat running condition. Set the high speed for best running condition at wide open throttle. Once that is set and the engine is warm, idle the motor down and start leaning out the low speed needle. Adjust the throttle down once the speed picks up and smooths out and continue to dial in the low speed and adjust the throttle position to find the best idle at the lowest throttle position. If it sneezes and stalls it is too lean. Midway between where it sneezes and where the idle starts to fall off on the rich side should be the ideal setting. Thanks for watching!
EBay is probably one of your best avenues for a good used cylinder head for an OMC 3hp twin. Yours must be a '68. First year of the fiberglass hood and last year of the 3hp. I don't think I have one right now. I can keep an eye out if you cannot find one on EBay. Thanks for watching.
Greg, we do have weds in the pond besides the cattails. I keep then fairly well under control by using Aquashade twice a year to keep the water dark enough to slow the growth of the seaweed. I have a Seaweeder rake to drag the beach area to keep it clean too. The aerator is a Gast vane pump plumbed to two underwater nozzles. It pumps air and bubbles up to the surface out of the two nozzles. That does seem to help keep it clean and the fish like it.
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 think I just may have figured it out. That thumb screw that's on the fuel pump was barely tight. You know the intake line. Little filter behind cover.
I've learned don't take these old motors to the lake unless you have run them in a barrel first. Sitting in the hot sun is not the place to diagnose them!
My lightwin wouldn't run yesterday, took it out today had strong spark, so i put it in the bucket fired right up idled like a new motor, I don't know it's a mystery, mine has a fuel pump on it with 2 valves one has to be open the other closed, as far as I know they were right, it either wasn't getting gas or got too much gas and flooded. But when I saw it had spark I knew it would run, fired on the first pull today in the barrel
Old JohnnyRude I have the 4hp Evinrude on a Tracker topper10. I haven’t taken it out yet. I’ve owned the boat and the motor for about 3 months. I’m worried about it leaving me stranded!
Bradzoilone What has been done to it for maintenance? Why does it have you worried? Try running it in a drum for an hour or two to see if it makes the run without dying? They are nice little motors.
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thank you for the response, I am going to look at 1 this weekend and the owner doesn't seem to be hiding anything and has no issues running it in a bucket for me, it's going on a 10 foot plastic John boat
@@mtnbkr265 You're welcome. These are direct drive. They have no neutral position. They are start and go. In case you were not aware of that, I thought you should be prepared before you buy it. 👍
The points were spot on and set with a factory timing tool. I do realize the off position works by retarding the spark far enough to simply not allow the engine to run. The points setting has much more to do with the strength of the spark than advance. It does affect advance slightly and is enough to throw idle quality off if they're off. That could cause it to die early and not run properly at wide open. Thanks for watching!
Bought a 1978 Evinrude 4806e 4 hp. The little thing idled like a champ at slow speed and while not being fast by any means, served us well during a recent fishing trip.
They're wonderful little motors. I have a few of them and one of the first few motors I bought for my collection was a '69 Evinrude Lightwin 4hp. They're not gast by any means, but they are great running little motors and typically idle nicely. This one had a factory casting flaw that was probably covered by paint and allowed it to pass inspection and test run at the factory. Once that was fixed, it dod very well. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thanks for the quick reply. We bought it used for this trip, it looked to be in nice shape, and I was surprised to see how slow we could troll with it. Still have to learn how to «play» with the slow speed adjustment, but aside from that, it was a good investment at CDN$300 split three ways, haha! Especially since renting a motor was well over $125 each year. It also seems to be very fuel efficient! Next tank, I'll mix it closer to 45:1 or 40:1, as per suggestions I've seen floating around.
@@hugolafhugolaf These are super trolling motors and woth the weedless angle drive gearcase, they really handle weedy water well. Yes, this was a good investment considering the cost to rent a motor. I usually run mine on 24:1 and since the carburetor is adjustable it can be set for optimal running for whatever mix you run. 40:1 will be better than 50:1 since these motors don't have any rolling bearings on the connecting rods.
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 We indeed have the weedless case.
@@hugolafhugolaf I have not yet tested the right angle "High Thrust" gearcase directly against the weedless angle drive for top speed. I can definitely say that the performance in the weeds is not very good with the right angle drive and is excellent with the weedless drive. These motors aren't very fast anyway. May as well have the superior weedy water performance.
Thanks to you and some other CZcams guys, I have my 1954 15hp Evinrude running. Needs a little fine tuning. Total so far $125. Insert smile emoji here. Thank you good sir.
You are very welcome. Congrats on getting your motor going. Fine tuning will get done too. That's a great motor and for $125 it's hard to beat that for your money. Thanks for watching!
Really love your outboards collection!
Thank you and thanks for watching!
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I somehow lost the password. I would love any assistance you can give me
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@Nehemiah King I really appreciate your reply. I found the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process now.
Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Nehemiah King it worked and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy!
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I had a Evinrude Fisherman 6hp - wish I still had it 🤦♂️ what a cool little outboard
I have 3 nice running 6hp Evinrude Fisherman outboards. They are the ones that really got me started in this hobby. Great little motors. Thanks for watching!
I don't think my 1996 4hp rude idle's any better than that. Nice 👌 work.
Thank you. This one was a tricky one. Thanks for watching!
boy, you went to town on that one!
Ya, this one turned out to be a bit more of a challenge than I expected. It turned out well in the end though. It'll be back on a boat and going fishing again now. That's a good thing.
Do any of your videos explain how to pressure check a lower unit for leaks?
Yes, I did a series of tune up videos for Classic OMC outboards on my 1959 Evinrude Fastwin. One of the lower unit videos shows me pressure testing the gearcase. Thanks for watching!
Hey bud, found this great video as I am looking at buying one in my area BUT the owner says it is "Forward Only" and the motor has to be 'turned around' for reverse. Having never owned a motor in my life & not wanting to make a hundreds of $ mistake....it this a correctable problem or just what is going on do ya think? Thanks much for your input!
These are very nice little motors. They are direct drive and do not have a shiftable gearcase. They are, indeed, forward only. Reverse is attained by rotating the motor 180°. There is a reverse lock on the swivel bracket and exhaust housing to prevent the motor for tilting itself out of the water when running in "reverse". This is not a mistake to be corrected, but is the design as it was intended. It makes for a very simple, durable, and lightweight fishing motor. Thanks for watching!
what does the button in the middle? the one that points high and low. whats that for? what does it regulate?
That is the low speed mixture screw for the carburetor. It adjusts the amount of fuel that the idle circuit flows so the mixture can be dialed in to get the best low speed run quality for the present atmospheric conditions. Thanks for watching!
I keep my water very dark. The biggest problem is the Chara, a type of algie. Thanks for the reply.
Actually most of the weed problem I have is chara as well. The Aquashade does a decent job of keeping it at bay. I have a lot of it just below the surface in much of the pond though. That stuff is definitely a problem.
Just got one of these, how do you soak the carb. Any suggested chems?
I used Berrymans Chem Dip. It does a fair job but it ain't what it used to be with the original formula. OMC or Mercury Power Tuner is much more effective. You can overdo that stuff but it works and works a lot faster than Berryman's. Thanks for watching!
Great job. I own the same motor.
Thanks for watching!
thanks for your tips repaired a 4 hp johnson next project is a 20hp mariner but can't find anything on it some say it's a mercury some reckon it's a yamaha
Glad to hear my tips were helpful. The little 4s are neat little motors. Mercury marine owns the Mariner outboard line. Many of these were indeed built by or jointly with Yamaha. I'm not very familiar with these and the years they were produced. Check out AOMCI.ORG and post your motor info and questions on Ask-A-Member. Someone will be able to help you out. Lots of helpful and knowledgeable folks in the club. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 i worked it out its a yamaha 20 a 653 I only paid 80 for it.So far so goood
How much you charged?
I've got a 84 force 4hp and dont want to spend $90 on a coil. Any thoughts on a substitute? 42f4a
I really have no idea what that coil even looks like without looking it up. There may be a substitute replacement. You may try to find a used coil too. You could place e want ad in the free classifieds on AOMCI.ORG as well and see if anyone in the club has one available. Thanks for watching!
Hi, Johnny. Do you know where I can get the user manual?
I have had decent success finding them on Ebay for certain motors I'm looking for. Thanks for watching!
do you know where i could find a carb kit for this motor
Your local Evinrude dealer has them. I buy a lot of my parts from marineengine.com also.
I have the exact same motor. We use is for trolling on my grandfathers 16ft tri hull. It doesn't idle as slow as I would like for kokanee fishing. I have tried to adjust the carb. Should I try soaking the carb? Thank you for your help with this problem. Grandpa Williams has passed, and Kokanee Salmon fishing with his boat is really important. I am taking his great Grandsons fishing to carry on the family traditions. Thank you!
Not knowing when the last time was that it had a tune up, I would recommend doing new points and condensers, setting the new points, new spark plugs and giving the carb a soak, a thorough cleaning, and putting a new BRP Evinrude kit in it. Once that is done you should be able to adjust the low speed mixture for an excellent idle. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thank you for your help! What at is a BRP Evinrude kit?
I am guessing the BRP kit is the kit with the new points and condensers. My grandfather has owned this motor for over 30 years. I changed the impeller last year, and it had never been changed. I doubt it has ever had a tune up, besides a spark plug. We do run the gas out of it before we put it away for the winter. I will let you know how it turns out. Thanks again!
@@nathanmutz2881 It definitely needs a tune up if it has been that long. It also needs a water pump impeller before it gets run so the old one doesn't break up and cause blockages in the cooling system.
The BRP Evinrude is the OEM brand kit. It is the best quality available. I recommend that over aftermarket like Sierra or something like that. Available at your local Evinrude dealer and online from Marineengine.com or other sources. Thanks for watching. Great little motors when runnimg right.
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Here is a video of my engine. Thank you again for all of the help!
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How did you find the crank case leak? great job on that one.
It was idling erratically. That was my first clue there was a leak. I made a video of it like that but never posted since I wasn't done yet. I put it back in the barrel and worked with the idle again and I saw it puffing fuel mist into the lower cowl. I appreciate the compliment on the work. I had to work for it on this one.
way to go
+Ron Baker Thanks Buddy!
Yo ron
How much water should come out when running full throttle? Also I was out on the water today. Was running great than it would die. Cowl was warm to touch. . It would start back up run for 2-3 minutes then shut off again
There should be a heavy mist coming out of the holes. If you don't know when the impeller was last changed chage it. These motors do run pretty warm. Yours may be running too warm. You may also want to check your fuel pump. Thanks for watching!
Yeah some of the holes a mist comes out and some just dribble
@@rickwieting888 I'd change the impeller, and maybe the whole water pump to be safe. These motors like to run hot anyway.
Does that motor have a pee stream? I have the same motor and recently got it going and noticed no pee stream, was thinking impeller but I didn’t see a stream on yours
No tell-tale stream on these motors. They have exhaust relief holes along the back side of the exhaust housing that will spray a heavy mist of water out with the exhaust that escapes through them. The rest of the water goes out with the underwater exhaust. That mist is the only form of tell tale that exists on these motors. Thanks for watching!
What are the initial settings on high and low speed screws ??
I usually set the high speed at 1 turn out and the low speed at 1.5 turns out from lightly seated. These settings will be rich and will have to be leaned out for beat running condition. Set the high speed for best running condition at wide open throttle. Once that is set and the engine is warm, idle the motor down and start leaning out the low speed needle. Adjust the throttle down once the speed picks up and smooths out and continue to dial in the low speed and adjust the throttle position to find the best idle at the lowest throttle position. If it sneezes and stalls it is too lean. Midway between where it sneezes and where the idle starts to fall off on the rich side should be the ideal setting. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 thankyou !
@@rickbokern4179 You're welcome. 👍
I just got same motor but 3hp im looking for another head one plug hole is stripped
EBay is probably one of your best avenues for a good used cylinder head for an OMC 3hp twin. Yours must be a '68. First year of the fiberglass hood and last year of the 3hp. I don't think I have one right now. I can keep an eye out if you cannot find one on EBay. Thanks for watching.
The 4 is a 3 with bigger induction!
your pond appears to be weed free, except for the cattails. How do you keep the weeds out? What are you using for an airiator?
Greg, we do have weds in the pond besides the cattails. I keep then fairly well under control by using Aquashade twice a year to keep the water dark enough to slow the growth of the seaweed. I have a Seaweeder rake to drag the beach area to keep it clean too.
The aerator is a Gast vane pump plumbed to two underwater nozzles. It pumps air and bubbles up to the surface out of the two nozzles. That does seem to help keep it clean and the fish like it.
Morning I changed the impeller plenty water coming out now. But still shuts down after running wot for 10 mins sometimes more. Than dies. Any thoughts
Sucking air in through one of the fuel line fittings? Is the fuel pump starting to fail? Maybe it is starving for fuel.
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 think I just may have figured it out. That thumb screw that's on the fuel pump was barely tight. You know the intake line. Little filter behind cover.
@@rickwieting888 Yes, that will do it. Loss of suction right there.
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 well I'll find out in about 3 hours.
@@rickwieting888 Sweet!
Kool dad 😄👍
Bailey Breitner hi bailey
Hi Kyle
How much did it cost
@@JamesSmith-h3k How much did what cost? The motor? The repair?
I've learned don't take these old motors to the lake unless you have run them in a barrel first. Sitting in the hot sun is not the place to diagnose them!
theeasybeats Yes indeed. I work as many bugs out as I can in the tank before they go for a boat ride whenever possible.
My lightwin wouldn't run yesterday, took it out today had strong spark, so i put it in the bucket fired right up idled like a new motor, I don't know it's a mystery, mine has a fuel pump on it with 2 valves one has to be open the other closed, as far as I know they were right, it either wasn't getting gas or got too much gas and flooded. But when I saw it had spark I knew it would run, fired on the first pull today in the barrel
Nice.
Bradzoilone Thank you and thanks for watching!
Old JohnnyRude I have the 4hp Evinrude on a Tracker topper10. I haven’t taken it out yet. I’ve owned the boat and the motor for about 3 months. I’m worried about it leaving me stranded!
Bradzoilone What has been done to it for maintenance? Why does it have you worried? Try running it in a drum for an hour or two to see if it makes the run without dying? They are nice little motors.
Is this a reliable motor?
Yes, these are nice running, reliable motors. I use one of these for a backup kicker quite often. Thanks for watching!
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thank you for the response, I am going to look at 1 this weekend and the owner doesn't seem to be hiding anything and has no issues running it in a bucket for me, it's going on a 10 foot plastic John boat
@@mtnbkr265 You're welcome. These are direct drive. They have no neutral position. They are start and go. In case you were not aware of that, I thought you should be prepared before you buy it. 👍
Might be shutting off from points being adjusted for timing to retarded. That's how the off position works. So might run stronger with more advance
The points were spot on and set with a factory timing tool. I do realize the off position works by retarding the spark far enough to simply not allow the engine to run. The points setting has much more to do with the strength of the spark than advance. It does affect advance slightly and is enough to throw idle quality off if they're off. That could cause it to die early and not run properly at wide open. Thanks for watching!
😅 just like one wife made sell yard sale wife will not let have nothing
Well, someone got a nice little motor at the yard sale. Thanks for watching!