Why I Chose the Intel Mac Mini over the M1 Mac Mini
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Just because a computer is newer doesn't mean it's better for everyone. Today I talk about why I chose the Intel Mac Mini over the M1 Mac Mini
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Forgot to mention, I’m the video, that the M1 Mac Mini, I previously had, was 16GB RAM and not the default 8GB.
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Still have it?
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That’s great, thanks for continuing to watch and comment, I really appreciate it!
Also, thank you for letting me know my videos helped you, that’s the type of thing that really motivates me!
Thanks for coming back I haven't seen any of your videos in a while. You haven't posted anything in a while so thanks for coming back. I've stuck with my windows laptop HP 15-in notebook and I recently downloaded Windows 11 on it and didn't have to get a whole new computer. I love the way that you know your stuff on this. At the warehouse I work at though we've had the same stuff for a long time we got the Windows 7 operating system and that has yet to be upgraded in some departments. Maybe you should do a video on ripping music into what you're talking about now
Hey, thanks for the comments and the video suggestions!
Life has kind of gotten in the way, that’s why I’ve been away a while, so I appreciate everyone sticking around!
I didn’t want to call attention to it and start my video with the token “sorry I’ve been away a while” as my videos are about the tech, not about me, so wanted to get right into it. 😉
I really appreciate you hanging in there though!
Great review. I too need to upgrade, but need the ports with eGPU support and mac OS upgrade for my workflow. You answered all my questions for a conservative upgrade. Thanks!
I'm using a 2018 Mac Mini 3.2 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7 with 32 GB RAM. I needed Intel chip for running VMware Horizon Client for running Windows VMs. It is a solid machine. No complaints. Thanks for the video.
Hi, You have a great channel and I agree with your opinion in this video. I think you made the right choice about the 2018 intel mac mini. I also have the 2018 six core mac mini with 32 gb of ram and the built in blazing fast 1 tb ssd, paired with the blackmagic E gpu and I use davinci resolve 15 on mojave. 4k editing and grading in resolve with the film convert plugin works flawlessly, I love it. All my movies were edited on that setup. I also have a 2012 mac mini and a 2012 macbook pro with E gpu's and I edit 2K video's in resolve with no problems. I learned how to hook up E gpu's to both of my 2012 mac's from your video's on your channel, thanks for making great and helpful video's. Keep em coming.
How much faster did the eGPU help with rendering/exporting vs without engaging the eGPU?
Thank you, so much for sharing your selection and why, this was excellent. Several months ago, I was in the same boat and wanted to replace my 2010, mac mini (the last model with a built-in DVD super-drive). Had been waiting for over two year's for Apple, Inc. to come out with (what, I had been calling a "mac mini pro" model) with a more powerful processor, more RAM, and four (4) thunderbolt ports. But, what we got was Apple's new Mac Studio and when trying to order the version that, I wanted there was a 5-month back-long. In addition, there were several issues with Apple's new 27-inch Studio Display. So, not being a power user, I decided to just pick-up for $1,200 a used 2014, trash can size 8-core/D700 Mac Pro with RAM of 64GB and a 1TB SSD and paired it with my already owned Apple 27-inch Cinema LED (none thunderbolt) display and everything works great together (smile...smile).
That’s so great!
I love it when people get what works for them and not always the latest and greatest!
I’m glad that pro is working out for you!
Thank you. For using Resolve, would you today choose The intel over the M2 mini? Thinking of selling my loaded i7 mini and getting an M2 refurb for about a (+$200 difference) Thank you!
interesting video! I think the m1 chip is really good for certain tasks but is a bit over hyped by some. being able to use an eGPU can come in handy and is something I didn't really think about. Personally I don't own a mac except for a 2012 macbook pro I got for free so I loaded linux on it and it runs well. Ive been thinking about turning my windows pc into a home server and getting a newer mac computer but I still have a lot to consider. I really enjoy your vids!
Thanks so much, I appreciate the comment.
The M1 computers really are fantastic, just not great for my workflow.
I’m hoping that, in a few more generations, the Apple Silicon will fit my needs.
Have you made this decision recently? If so, which one did you choose?
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Would you add an egpu to a 2018 Mac mini that has all the bells and whistles? Or I shouldn’t invest the money in an egpu?
How well will the intel vs m1 Mac mini compare when using Xcode, and iOS iPhone simulator (mobile app development)
Would you recommend a 6 core i5 or 6 core i7 with egpu setup for heavy editing with fusion effects?
There's a nice insight! 🤗
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could you use the egpu with the M1? oh wait i got to the part where you said they don't.
I was torn about moving from my 2018 Mac mini to the M1, but for a different reason. I have a couple of old but still useful x86 apps that I don't want to give up so I used Windows 10 in Boot Camp frequently. Since I like to tinker with computers my solution was to pick up a mid-2012 MBP 13, upgrade the hell out of it, and run Boot Camp on it. Then making the shift to the M1 world was a no brainer for me.
That’s great, that sounds like a great solution!
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Ok I have a question- I have two 2018 Mac minis, and was thinking of upgrading to either the M1 Mac mini, or base Mac Studio. My 2018 Mac mini is running 64GB RAM (I upgraded since I don't think there was a 64GB option at the time). I mainly do my work on this machine, and like to use tools like Google Earth, but I run into problems when I leave several VLC windows open playing network streams from security cameras or video encoders, and this really gets the fan going in the Mac mini. Also, I run a huge 5120x1440 monitor along with two HD monitors with the 2018 machine, but I find that the computer has a lot of trouble with this- up until Ventura, I have had to unplug and replug one of the HD monitors or it would flicker endlessly until I'm able to get the monitor stable. Now with Ventura, that problem is gone, but every time I start my day, the content on the two HD monitors swaps, meaning all the windows I placed on one monitor end up on the other and vice versa. It is very annoying. The machine also struggles a bit at times, but not terribly, so I'm not really disappointed at all with this 2018 version except for the monitor issues I have. Am I doing myself a disservice by going to the M1? Should I buy an external GPU. I was looking at the Mac Studio only because I have 3 monitors to drive, and I hear the only way to drive 3 on the M1 mini is to buy a DisplayLink adapter. But what drives me away is that HDCP supposedly ends up broken preventing the user from being able to watch some content, like Netflix for example. What would you suggest to someone in my position. I'd like the fans to stop running incessantly and be able to leave several players open, and use the 3 monitors. Would I notice a big degradation in performance if I went from the 64 GB 2018 Mac mini to the M1? Would I be better off going to the base model Studio in that case? Or buy an external GPU for the Mac mini 2018 and that might solve my problems? Thanks for any help!
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Welcome back!!!!
Thanks man!
So , basically you have upgraded from a 2014 to a 2018 Mac mini but still using a external GPU .
Apart from updating the os to Ventura , the difference would be ?
Much faster processor, faster bus, Thunderbolt 3 and longevity.
The 2014 Mac Mini is only TB 2 so the external GPU isn’t officially supported and, because of the lower bandwidth, impacts the performance of that external GPU more than TB3 does.
Is mac mini i7 good for 2022 for editing and programming
I chose a 16” MacBook pro and use it both as a laptop and a stationary so I save a computer. It does not have those hiccups. Right now the 14” pro base model sells for the same price as the 13 inch with the same ram and storage (16gb/512gb) here in Denmark. But I think it’s more of a ram issue than a gpu issue your experience on the mini. But it could be both.
That’s great, it’s nice being able to use one computer for everything, if that works for you.
I used the 16GB M1, which is plenty for the testing I was doing so, I’m my case, it was more a GPU limitation.
@@Eevnos you might be right it’s interesting though. Resolve is really well optimised for m1 though. But might be harder on the ram than fcpx. Fcpx is not that ram hungry. the ram is shared by all the hardware. And 16 gb will be used pretty fast if all gpus and cpus are put to work and and you run those plugins in your timelines. It could be fun to monitor the usage while it slows down.
I went for the 24gpu just to get 64gb ram option. The bonus was 2 encoders. Ram dos not fit more just because it’s integrated it’s just faster.
I might be a interesting video for you as u still have the MacBook m1 to test my statement 😉
If you're producing audio, and especially if you use sample libraries extensively, the Intel is a way to cover all your bases.
I'm running a 2018 mac mini with rx580 razor egpu. Works great. I have Windows and Linux in Parallels for my job work flows and I just love it. Wish Mx cpus would support egpu. Best of all worlds.
Absolutely, if I get did support eGPUs I would have definitely stuck with the M1
Returning my M2 Mac mini...can't get Photoshop installed. Wasted so much time trying that I'm done. Going to get a intel 2018 mac mini with tons of RAM.
Could you connect an M1 iMac to an intel mini mac?
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i3/8gb - is it faster than a macbook pro 13 inch (intel)?
I haven't done any specific benchmarking, but I would have to guess no.
The MBP has an i5, which is a much faster chip.
Since apple now recently announced some new Mac Minis (M2 and M2 Pro), i wonder if either of those models would be able to handle what the M1 struggled with
Ram is still insanely expensive on the M1 platform and you could upgrade the intel minis yourself.
Good video
Ah man - I wish I saw this video before i got my Mac mini m1!!! I bought a MBP 2021, gave that to my brother as Apple released the m1 chips and bought a Mac mini m1. I also ended up getting a Windows laptop with Amd chip. Feel like i did it back to front - should've bought a Windows gaming PC and kept a MBP/MBA M1 as my portable device!!! Or Should've gotten the intel version and added additional eGPU so I could game properly!!! But I was more focused on the efficiency and the 8 cores they were advertising!! Not that the Mac Mini M1 is bad - far from it - could be the best desktop for a regular user on the market.
Yeah, I totally agree.
The M1 is FANTASTIC, but not right for every use case.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
I run on Intel Mini's because of dual boot Windows but even more important, supported OSX versions. I just can't get along with Big Sur or even worse Ventura. The last 2 OSX version are basically no longer OSX, but iOS. And the OS have become fugly as heck, as if Candy Crush ate my icons.
Not to mention that if you want to run Windows on your Mac, you'll want an Intel Mac. M1 and M2 chips can't run Windows at all
But why buy a Mac mini to run windows?
Much better to go for a gamer laptop.
@@gabrielpotel1 Because they are plenty powerful enough for most things, and capable of running all three of the major operating systems. I like being able to run any software I want regardless of which OS it was designed for. Not to mention they're cheap.
It's a bit misleading when you say Windows won't run on m1 or 2 chips. They're ARM based chips so use a windows ARM64 version and it'll work.
I have heard rumours that support for intel machines will be completely dropped in 2024 (and if the rumours are correct, then it may be as soon as 2023 when the 2018 intel mac mini drops down a rung on the support ladder (if so, then it will receive security updates until 2025, as apple provide security updates for the 2 previous versions of Mac OS)
Yeah, my guess would be 2024 that they’ll drop support for new Versions of the OS.
I’m hoping, by then, the Apple Silicon will be where I need it for my workflow… it’s SO close already!
I’d love to have an affordable Mac without this eGPU.
I could go for the Mac Studio, but my workflow doesn’t come close to justifying the cost at this point. 😉
@@Eevnos one thing i do hope is that with the next mac studio, there is a version with the “Pro” variant of the chip
Or at the very least, apple release a Mac Mini with the “Pro” variant of the chip (in addition to the standard version, since for some people the standard version of the chip will be good enough)
@@EevnosI would hope that’s not the case as some of these intel machines are still plenty capable for most people. But we shall see.
Why go with Apple at all if ur not using Final Cut Pro you should just built ur own pc or looked at the 100’s of options thag windows have to offer
I have both but the M1 is much faster for music production
This video is about bugs in Davinci Resolve and nothing to do with the M1, which already has a GTX1060 level GPU as far as 3D performance goes and even faster media encoders than the latest RTX cards.
It’s actually about options and being able to use an external GPU to bypass the limitations of the integrated GPU, the M1 is limited in that regard.
Resolve was just one example of software, although optimized for M1, works better with an external GPU than the M1.
Also you have to be careful with the “GTX1060 level GPU”. I assume you’re referring to certain synthetic benchmarks, I would advise caution as those are rarely an accurate representation of world performance.
Lastly, everyone’s workflow is different.
For me, there was no option to bring the M1 to where I needed it for my workflow but with the Intel Mini I was able to upgrade the RAM and add the external GPU.
If you’re happy with the M1 then that’s great!
Does the M1 really have that GPU level? I'm a console gamer but have been getting into my PC games recently - I cannot play any of my AAA games (Fifa, COD, GTA & F1 ) on the Mac M1. The best game they have is Transport Fever 2 and City Skylines - and even with both these games - the larger the gameplay or map -then more likely for the M1 to crash (which it has done on me numerous occasions). Its all good and well when on paper Apple claim their GPU can reach XY levels - but due to the portability of games and apples efficiency direction - doubt Mac will ever be good to games on. With that being said, if Microsoft or anyone else break the Cloud Gaming service market - this convo might then be fully over!!!.
@@critiquetest2594 in actual usage it does not match the level of a 1060, especially when talking gaming.
It does in some synthetic benchmarks but those are never a good representation of actual usage.
That’s the main reason I don’t use them much in my videos, the results are very misleading.
Unfortunately, since Apple doesn’t support Nvidia cards anymore, there’s absolutely no way to accurately compare them.
@@Eevnos Many Steam games getting Metal ports and they run incredible outperforming 16" Intel Macbook pro.
As far as video editing goes, M1 crushed everything since day one in FCPX. The first lust to run Canon 8k, GoPro 5.6k timelines in real time. And even on regular Sony 4k runs several times faster than my old 10th Intel with RX5700 or Macbook Pro 16 ever had.
Being optimized for M1 does not mean anything. You can optimize a flawed app and it will run times faster but it will be still flawed.. Adobe, davinci are perfect examples.
@@MrTechcat The 16" Intel Mac Pros have a pretty weak (by today's standards) mobile version of the Radeon GPU.. it's not too surprising they're being outperformed, in fact I'd be surprised if they weren't.
The M1 chip is great and if it's working for you then that's awesome, this video is about why I went with the Intel so I could upgrade the RAM and not be constrained to the GPU limitations of the M1... it's not a debate of Resolve vs FCPX.
That being said I would like to see what you're basing your assumption that Resolve is flawed & buggy off of, if you have some info to support that I'd be interested to see what issue some people are having.
Having used DaVinci Resolve Studo for years on Windows, Linux and MacOS it's by far the most feature rich and reliable editor I've ever used, I recommend you download the free version and try it out.
I am choosing the Intel Mac Mini over the M1 Mac Mini for a different reason - namely, because the Intel Mac Mini can support three displays but the M1 version cannot.
Apple wont be supporting intel macs into the near future. At that point delete Mac OS and go Linux with it. I already have moved my MacBook Pro 2012 to Linux Mint and its fantastic. I believe you also have done that in another video.
Yeah, absolutely.. Linux is the way to go for Macs that are no longer supported.
I have indeed done that on several older macs, have a few videos about it on my Linux channel.
With this one I’m banking on the fact that the Apple Silicon will meet my needs by the time this computer isn’t supported.
I may end up shooting myself in the foot with that thinking though. 😉
i have a m1 mac
How do you like it?
Should have gone with Mac studio
It's overkill for what I need.
Overall the M1 is straight out better than the Intel one