Ground Balance 101, Nokta Makro Simplex field testing different ground balances, plus tv show news!
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Why, and how, should you Ground Balance your Nokta Makro Simplex? Does it really matter? The Simplex Guru takes you through the whys and hows, before demonstrating what happens in each mode, when your GB is out.
Does it make any difference in FIELD, PARK 1, PARK 2, or ALL METAL? How does it sound on a signal when your ground balance is out? Would you miss signals?
Join Lori in the beautiful Scottish Highlands where she explains all about GROUND BALANCE, and puts the theory to the test.
Also- you may notice that the Guru is looking a bit more glam than usual. This is because I have been filming teasers for a brand new metal detecting show, BY detectorists, FOR detectorists. If a detecting tv series interests you(co presented by ME!) please have a look at the end of the video, where I explain the news more fully.
As a bonus this week, I have included footage at the end of the video, of myself detecting on a beautiful Scottish summer day. I get asked for videos of my technique, and how I use the machine, well- here it is!
waiting for my simplex to be delivered tomorrow like a kid on Christmas eve
Got mine yesterday will have to wait till week. End
Right im waiting too 😆
From Southern California and I'm still learning this lovely machine 🤙thank you for sharing
I just got the simplex yesterday. I ground balanced in my yard and instantly hit a dime at 4 inches. Thanks for the great videos.
Thank you for you're clips. What you can improve is the way you sway your coil. You get depth loss almost 2 inches. You can bring your coil much more to the ground. Also : at the end of a sway, the distance coil-ground is bigger then at the beginning of a sway. You can't see this when you are detecting but you can see what I mean when you look at yourself in the clip. Of course you know a lot about detecting but so am I after 52 years of doing this beautiful hobby. We are never the perfect master of metal detecting. Even after all those years I am still learning.
Keep doing this wonderful hobby
Best description for a newbie to decipher i have seen this far. Thank you
A pretty face that is, thank you for sharing we all enjoy your videos and the way you explain in such simple terms on how things work, this is my favourite Simplex + channel, thanks .
Another great video and explanation. Regarding crushed cans sounding like coins, I have all but eliminated digging cans simply by lifting my coil. If you are still getting that great signal swinging the coil 6 + inches above the ground, it’s best to just pass. Something I learned from some more experienced detectors. The only time I am digging cans now is when I get too eager and forget to check. The Simplex will still occasionally lie to me with a solid 24 or 25 and I’ll dig a pull tab thinking it is a nickel, but I am not sure I can ever eliminate that from happening. Take care!
Spider Hill Prop Works
What fabulous advice! I will try that next time I am in the park, thank you. Worth making a video to share the information, I very much appreciate you sharing.
Properly adjusting ground balance maximizes the coils field which in turn gives you maximum depth.I learned to ground balance by practicing until i became proficient with doing it.Does it make a difference? Oh most definately. Creat a test area with a mix of buried objects and play with ground balance settings.
Excellent instructions. Found to be a great help. Thank you Lori!
Hi there, I did follow your advices. I am still new to Simplex. I found 3 good targets a jewelry it is just 5feet a part. My setting is at Park 2 mode with ground balance 2 bar down sensitivity no notched or descrimination and 1 bar for iron volume. Best advice ever. More video for Simplex please.
Well done Lori! That was a VERY informative video. Your explanation really makes a case for proper ground balancing, and why that can improve your detector's performance!
And its down to you that I can explain it so well.
I will always be grateful for your patient, fullsome (in such great detail, so this noob could actually understand it), knowledgeable answers to my ignorant questions.
I now see so many people asking the same questions I did, over and over again, that I'm amazed you took the time to answer me. I truly am thankful, my friend. ❤
@@thesimplexguru1263 Any time Lori!
Just moved from an Ace400 to a Simplex and I’m just beginning to learn my machine and it’s definitely a learning curve !! No problem with g/b but vdis are all over the place !! Seems like I’ve been in a couple of trashy places and trying to decide what to dig and what to pass !!
Ace400 is made by Garrett Detectors in Plano Texas !!
Ronald Huber if you are hunting a lot of trashy areas, I highly recommend purchasing the SP24 coil. It really makes a huge difference on the Simplex. I find it to be much more stable overall.
Hi Ronald, I definitely agree with Spider Hill that the SP 24 elliptical coil would make your work much, much easier! However, not everyone can get a 2nd coil, so we must look at what else we can do to help.
What kind of trashy have you been dealing with? Can slaw, crisp packets, iron, nails?
Can slaw is a nightmare, the signal can come in anywhere in the vdi, and its strong. Best to do is try the signal from all sides, hopefully the uneven edge will show itself by breaking up the tone and vdi.
Crisp packets are similar to can slaw, although they usually register in the 30s for me. They also can sing sweetly and have tricked me more than once. Again, check signal from all sides, hopefully it will break up.
Nails will have a bright sweet edge, and an iron grunt. Always have your iron audio on, and do not notch iron out! The sweet tone will ALWAYS have an iron tone behind it.
Big iron usually has a bright edge but also grunt. To tell big iron raise your coil. Does the signal break up, stay strong, or drop out? Is it 2 way repeatable? You will learn the sounds of the iron, the nails.
If your vdis are unstable, try dialing your sensitivity down/ level 6 or level 5 is fine. Where are you detecting? Do you need to change mode? Do you really need the depth or can you move to a faster mode?
Use all the modes to check signals, the faster Park 2 will separate signals much better than field.
Fantastic! I didn't realize ground balance was so important. Like you said the handbook says it's not necessary. Great video.
The reason the experienced guy turned up the ground balance is some older machines like the AT series could be run hot on the ground in certain conditions if you didn't mind a little chatter to get a bit more depth. It depends on the detector in the end.
Brilliant tips Lori, I cant wait till weekend, got new permission, 400 acres never been detected, last time lots of hot rocks but just trying detector 1st time.
great video as usual, easy to understand. looking forward to this new tv show.
Delsie Ritchie Thanks Delsie, I really appreciate your support and comments. I know it was a longer video, but the information needed a through explanation. Happy hunting!
Very good and useful advice
Lori, its easy to identify aluminium cans with the simplex. I'm surprised you have not sussed it out yet.
I know of two methods, of which I'm sure plenty of other simplex users also know how to identify them.
If no one volunteers the info get in touch.
Nice video Lori 👍
Thank you Mike. I really don't detect that park too often, the can slaw and 5 inch deep crisp packets are wickedly plentiful- and to be honest I'd rather go avoid horseshoes and ploughshares 😆 .
However, a couple of folk have volunteered a technique to discriminate a can from a coin, and it is so logical it really was a DOH moment! I can only use the excuse that I just don't do it enough to have worked it out, but I will also say thank you to those of you who have helpfully offered the solution without roasting me for not knowing!
I will locate another signal in the park that rings in at 69/71. Once I've got that, I'll make a video showing everyone how to do it.
In a way, I'm glad I didn't know. It gives me an opportunity to learn something new, and then to add that to the channel for others to learn too! Thank you for contributing, I want this channel to be a place where folk come to learn, and I'll be the first to say I have plenty more things to learn along with them! 😃
Fantastic channel with you Lori. I am on Simplex learner plates [L]
Aluminium cans are easy to identify, when you shove your spade in you get a crunch sound from it. Pull out your spade and move on ;))
would you mind helping me with this info?
Great vid. With the cans , always a good idea to raise coil from ground to still see if it picks signal up. Signal was very loud and too clear with 3 bars of depth so 6 inch. Simplex can pick a pound size object at 9 inch in ground by the manual. You could have probably lifted coil about a foot off ground and still got that signal , therefore wouldn’t been anything worth digging. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
Great tip! Another detectorist said the same thing, and that is information that needs shared. I need to find another signal like the one in this video, and then I can film it.
I will need to explain that this technique should tell you if it is a pound coin or not (and that's brilliant for us in the UK) but if you are hunting something larger (say civil war belt buckles) then you will just need to dig them or you will miss good finds. Aquachigger digs loads of Mason jar lids and tin cans because he is looking for big metal objects. He has said as much.
I'm grateful for your advice, thank you. I really want to be a central source for Simplex users, to pull all the info into one place. When I started, I had to watch videos from dozens of youtubers, just to get a complete tutorial on the Simplex. It took ages. I wanted to create somewhere new users could go and find all they need.
People like yourself, who contribute knowledge that I can share, really help so many new Simplex users. Thank you, from them, and from me. :)
The Simplex Guru there is a few videos to say the least but none as informative on the simplex. It can be a tricky detector to master but when you do it is a joy to use. Very informative , thank you
Great video, but will admit I do sometimes want to wear noise cancelling headphones talking to my pals 😂. Looking forward to the show
Excellent, well presented video Lori. Great explanations. Sound (no pun), reasoning, regarding a most vital discipline, that is key to successful hunting. Obviously it's wonderful to be surrounded by mother nature's seasonal foliage; unfortunately the abundant ground cover didn't present any tiny, deep signals to further exhibit the need to accurately ground balance. I imagine you will probably return to 'Ground Balancing', as and when opportunities allow. All the very best with filming the t.v show!!! Brilliant.
Hi Tim, sent you a message on Facebook, hope that OK. I wanted to ask you a question re how to deal with a specific problem. Looking forward to your ideas! :)
Ps.
Nokta says that the beach mode is the mode for manual ground balancing.
If you search in one of the other modes there is no need for ground balancing, they are automatically groundbalancing.
If you want to search in very high mineralized ground in one of these modes, it is necessary to groundbalancing manually. You do this in beach mode and when it is done, you switch to the preferred mode. This mode copies the ground balance value from the beach mode and remembers it.
Very well done. That helps me so much and will make a huge difference in my hunting.
Getting my simplex tomorrow and was told to watch you . I'm glad I did now subscribed to your chanel
Great vid for we newcomers. Thanks. Havagudun gal.
Brilliant episode. Keeping it plain and easy to understand
Very informative !
Awesome vid!!! So helpful, I was just living with the false signals, not anymore!!!
Brilliant thanks for sharing 👍🏻😊
Great tuition thanks
Great video....Good luck on the T.V. show...cant wait to see it !
dino palone Thank you Dino. Thank you so much for your support. 😊
Wow This information is Gold im starting to feel at One with my Simplex three Grow Guru videos in Top Notch. Thanks
great video, ground balance is key ! and hi from wisconsin
Allen Nagel Hello Allen from Wisconsin :) I’ve another detectorist friend from Wisco; Rob Rizzo, the History Digger on CZcams. He does videos of the Simplex and the EquiNox 800 from Manitowoc. He is worth checking out. :)
My paternal grandfather was from Beloit, Wisconsin , but alas, I have never been there. It looks a beautiful place. Thanks for your support and comments, happy hunting,
@@thesimplexguru1263 Hello Lori, thanks for the reply, I like history diggers channel, I have a simplex, equinox 800 and an anfibio multi.i have been to Beloit , nice place, and my son in law is from Greennock scottland.
Hi Terry ... You sound a bit over the edge with excitement! LOL! Hey if I should win anything please contact me before you send it. I may have moved back to NH by the time you do the drawing. House is U/A right now pending the various inspections. Thanks.
Thanks...I'm waiting for my new simplex but i have no clue how to use it
a good vid i can understand what you are saying , ive had my simplex about 5 months never ground balanced it be for but now i will thank you ,happy hunting.
I’m stateside, southern Indiana !!
Ronald Huber
Stay Safe my friend. What sort of things do you find there? :)
The Simplex Guru Mostly modern clad coins and costume jewelry. I’ve not found any silver or gold yet !! I was a teenager way back in the ‘60s and the homes and property of my grandparents are 2 prime locations for old coins and relics. I have a friend that has given me permission to search his home built in 1865, so there’s another top spot !! I love ❤️ your information and tips. One can’t learn too much !! You keep posting and I’ll keep watching !! 😊
Hi Lori, I just got my Simplex and took it out today for the first time. Your videos have really helped, thank you!! I had so much fun! I do a have a question about ground balancing. I did it many times today with no problems. Later in the day it started to rain and I could not get the procedure to work while it was raining (but the machine worked of course). Have you had that happen where you couldn't get the ground balance to work? If you do have an issue with it, is it best to go to 90 or to 0 like on the beach?
Just subscribed ty very interesting
Hi Lori, do I ignore all iron grunts even though mixed with other singles not separate signals? Many thanks. Rob.
baldybob1 Ahh, that’s a tough one Bob. If you are a beginner, definitely dig some ( or lots or all) so you are assured in your own mind that you are truly hearing big iron. Always check your hole as well, that will tell you if it was 2 signals or just one. Try the Knipshield technique too, that will show iron for what it is. And lift your coil up above signal, if big iron- it will ring up long after a wee item will drop off. And trace out size using pinpoint mode, that can help. Lots to things to try to test, but it still may not show up a small quality item next to a large iron one.
Regarding your original question- it depends on what coil you have, and what version of software you have, and what sensitivity you have on. If you have a small coil, then you will be able to separate signals near to each other better than a large coil. If you have a small coil and get a bright signal and an iron grunt, then it is worth really seeing if you can separate them. If you get a solid, multi way repeatable signal, separate from the grunt, it could be another signal and worth a dig. If you have stock 11” coil, it may be difficult to separate a small signal from iron near it, although park 2 and park 1 mode (switch over and test signal) can sometimes do it. Nails are a real bear on this one, as they are bright, and iron, and can cause separate signals.
Software version 2.77 will be more tetchy than 2.78 and 2.68, especially if sensitivity up high and particularly in field mode. I find that hitting a reed or dock plant, or especially thistles, causes it to false/ grunt when I’m running her hot (everything on max). Swinging too fast can cause a grunt at end of swing too. And my most recent experience with a false grunt involves the field I have full of coal. All the signals there have iron grunts, in field on full or sens 6. Turning to park 1 or 2, and dropping sens 1 bar cuts it out, and signal comes in clearer.
It is not an easy question, and time will help pick the no dig iron signals apart from dig signals. I can say that you will feel more confident in the choice of what to ignore as you spend more time with Simplex.I agonised over big iron identification when I first started, it is 2nd nature now. However it is good to dig lots at first (and every so often as you go on especially in new fields), to keep checking your ear is tuned in. I’d also add that gold can come in as low as 4, I have seen recently in a forum someone recommend digging all 04’s, as they found a gold necklace that way. I think in agricultural fields you will dig a lifetime of iron before you get a gold necklace, it it is always possible, and only you can decide your tolerance for digging horse shoes!
Hope this helps- looking at how much I have written- I think a video is probably in order, just to get the concepts out there. Thanks for your question, and please ask for clarification if I’ve been unclear. Cheers and HH
@@thesimplexguru1263 Lori, thanks very much for you comprehensive reply. I have a stock coil running on 2.78 and been detecting for one month, five outings. One of many things I have noticed that have had me befuddled is that ( I know it's only a guide) the depth gauge on a good target is at max sometimes and I end up digging to Australia when it is actually in the side of the hole? Strange. Sometimes in the Same circumstances I get fed up digging only to find the target 3 or 4 inches outside the circumference of the hole ( pinpoint technique training required). Definitely the method you mentioned above sounds excellent and I will try it. Yes big iron is a bit of a bugger and depending on depth can morph into silver or something else attractive in my headphones! I love your vids and have learned shed loads from you . Keep it up . The streaming service you mentioned is an awesome idea and I support it wholeheartedly. I have booked the Dig for Veterans in Lincolnshire next September 9th so I hope I am more at one with my great machine by then. Are you going?
I love lucky horse shoes :))
Hi,I’m getting nice tones on deep iron,I’ve been digging out some iron.
Certainly more than on my other machines.
I’ve updated it to 2.77 and now there’s the 2.78 out so I’m going to give that a go because the previous update was driving mad with the chatter.
Great information for simplex users.
Hi, greetings from Australia, I absolutely love your videos, you explain everything in a way that is so easy to follow, I am looking at buying my first metal detector and I've narrowed it down to the Nokta Makro Simplex+ or a Minelab Vanquish 340/440 or 540 as I want to start with a quality detector and not some cheap eBay product, I have never detected before and I'm learning as much as I can, what machine would you recommend ?? I'm in my 60s and have retired from driving trucks for 45 years and my wife and I are looking for a hobby that will get us out and about and metal detecting fits the bill perfectly, any advice you can give us would be great, your videos are great,
Thanks very much for your help, regards Tony. Ohh, and I have subscribed to your channel.
G'day Aussie Coop, I'm also from down under and I've just purchased the Simplex + this week. I'm a bit younger than you, in my 50's. I've been out for my first hunt, and highly recommend this machine. And you've found the right videos to learn the machine here. I've watched lots of videos before going out for my first time, and also watched lots since, and it's all beginning to make sense to me now. It's a matter of knowing the basics, then just having a go, and learning along the way.
My first hunt on the beach found six bottle tops, two aluminium cans, and a trinket. BUT it was a learning curve which gave me that first bit of experience to build from there.
I say go for the Simplex.
G, day David, thanks for your reply mate, I'm doing exactly what you are doing, watching as many videos as I can and doing as much research as I can, my wife just surprised me with a Minelab Vanquish 540 which is awesome, she doesn't know yet that I've ordered the Simplex+ for her and I'm just waiting for it to get here, both of us can't wait to get out and start detecting, this hobby is fascinating, addicting and fun and we both think it's exactly what we need in our retirement, so, thanks again David for your reply, seeya mate, hope you find plenty of treasure.
what i want for the simplex is a set of headphones similar to the deus design so they wrap around the back of the head and around the ear. that way I can wear any type of hat that I want. with the current headphones, we are restricted to just a baseball cap.
The Dark Knight Detectorist
Those sound great. I’ve never seen a pair of that kind of Deus headphones. There is a device that plugs into the Simplex wired headphones adapter, that allows you to use any Bluetooth headphones. If you have a set of the Deus ones, it might be worth trying out the adapter and the wee plug in box to allow you to use those? :)
@@thesimplexguru1263 deus ones are quite expensive lol.
oh by the way, I gave you a mention in my last video 🙂
Wrong info giving out there.
There is a adapter that you can use to plug in any headphones(not Bluetooth headphones) as the simplex won't connect to any bluetooth headphones apart from the nokta blue or green headphones.
@@TheDarkKnightDetectorist the deus ws4 won't work with the simplex because you will need the xp puck that only works with the xp deus
love the hair
Lori, where and how can we get further info on your new tv internet show?
Hi Ross, I will be posting up information over the next week. The show will be available everywhere in the world, and I can't wait for you all to see it. Thank you for your support, it really means a lot!
Would automatic tracking help?
Apakah simplek+ ini tidak mengecewakan????
Thanks... I'm following your GB tips, especially on the beach! One question, please... how much difference is there in coil performance? I mean, we first time buyers only have the standard coils for starters... and want to learn as much as possible with them before the next step of getting the fancy coils! Thanks again,
Vossie at Treasure Life!
Hi Vossie, The performance differences are only two things for me. 1. The balance of the machine is physically better for me. The stock coil overbalances the machine ( for me) and I find long sessions kill my elbow. The wee coil doesn’t do this, even though the weights are very similar. 2. The small coil is SUPERB for picking apart signals next to each other. In trashy sites it excels in picking out the the signals you want from the stuff you don’t. ALSO, 2.7x is more stable in SOME situations ( the vdi is more sure of itself, and isn’t as jumpy in lvl 7 sensitivity).
BUT- it does not cover as much ground, it does not go any deeper, or react hugely faster than the large coil ( in my opinion). If you mostly detect beaches, you want to cover as much ground as possible. You are also not likely to need to pick out tiny signals from lots of trash or need the depth of level 7. If you are ok with the balance of the machine, and detecting beaches, then you are probably best using the stock coil. Take your time and learn it, and when you do add the extra coil, you will have a good idea of where you want to use it. Let me know how you get on with the simplex, and what sort of things you find! Thanks for your comment. :)
sorry to be so off topic but does someone know a way to log back into an instagram account??
I was dumb forgot my account password. I love any assistance you can give me
@Skylar Boston instablaster =)
@Kareem Ismael i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and Im trying it out atm.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Kareem Ismael It worked and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy!
Thanks so much you saved my ass !
What is the coil you are using and thanks for sharing?
I like the video but was that coil stock or the sp24? And would that make a difference?
Hi Shawn, thanks for watching and commenting. The coil wouldn't matter, it's all about the interaction between the machine and the earth, and allowing whichever coil you are using to perform as well as it can. :)
And I was using the SP24 in this video, but the stock coil would react the same. :)
Thanks for this video My friend, the only Thing that i was confused by before this video was how many times you would let it beep when ground balancing but if i understand it right 3 beeps and readdy?
Also the tv show sounds cool i Wonder if i can see it here in dk
Do it to beep 3 times, watch the numbers. Should all be roughly the same. You may notice they change in cycle, if you run through more than 3. I watch the numbers and cycle through them, choosing the roughly middle one. Say I get 52, 55, 58, for example. I'll pump it til I get round to roughly 55 again, and choose that.
The TV show is going to be internet access, so you should be able it see it 😃
@@thesimplexguru1263 thanks for that My friend, cool i will look out for it
Omg so beautiful there
👍👍👍
I turned mine on a field and it was in the 90's but my mate said ground balance it so I did and it dropped to the 30's and the machine was chattering all over the place so I turned it off and on again so the GB reset and the machine was fine after that
Today frist time out with the Simplex with the SP24 coil, i tried th ground balance but I dont , get het the beep ,i was on park 2 mode versie 2.78 , tips ?
Hmmm, ideas- 1. were you on a clean piece of ground? If there is a signal under coil it won't balance/beep. 2. Were you on a beach, and if so- were you in beach mode? It won't balance in the other modes on a beach (in my experience). 3. Is the soil showing as mineralised on the wee metre on the vdi? If jts mineralised it can interfere with balance. 4. Try again on another location. I once had the Simplex (with sp24) REFUSE to beep or balance. Not on a beach, no mineral or signal interference, just would not. Left it, and tried again 10 minutes later (about 50 feet away). It then did it.
No idea why it hung up, but moving to a new patch resolved it.
Let me know if you get it to work!
Golden mask 1 or simpleks+ ?
Hi I’m just curious have you ever tried the simplex with a good set of corded headphones maybe you have in a prior video I’m sorry if so but I notice you get a dual setting high and lo with 4 setting each what a world of difference in the sound when you can turn it up just a little more then what the wireless allow a true “boost audio” mode I shall call it and that’s just with my old first Texas stereo headphones
Hi New York, I've not had a set of corded on it, I bought the wireless pack and it doesn't have the headphone adaptor in it (to use cordless). A close detecting friend did get wired headphones and he wasn't impressed. Now how a set of good quality low latency detecting phones would work with the adaptor, that's a good question. I'll ask about! :)
The Simplex Guru I can’t think of a reason they wouldn’t be impressed I was absolutely blown away oh my word the nuances that come through for whatever reason I’m sure for safety’s sake so ppl don’t hurt there ears you can only turn the wireless up so far and I’m sure for most that’s ok but I’m a firm believer now there was something missing for me with the simplex before and I think it was made to be used in unison with good headphone you can turn up more
Fantastic information and worth a try
Thank you. I'll see if I can borrow an adaptor and try it out. Would be a great advantage to those struggling with volume :)
I have used corded headphones, cord always gets in my way.
Hi Treasure, I've had a viewer asking about cordeded headphones and using an adaptor from the 3.5mm to a 6.35mm size. Have you tried this with any of your headphones? Thank you!
Hi from Jamie Victoria Australia
Consigli di non fare il bilanciamento?
Are you still making videos
Can you tell me the numbers meen
Please.
Any new word on the tv show ?
Show me how to up grade your metal detector from the computer please .....
I dig alumina all the time and recycle it
Lovely lass you are.
If I find a Saxon hoard my history teachers have some explaining to do.
Spike Spiegel
Hahaha, absolutely! Although odd things turn up on Florida beaches... and those Vikings seemed to get everywhere!
The Simplex Guru I am in the west coast. I envy your area for thus hobby. I hope to fly over in the next couple of years if the planet settles down.
You won't likely find any Saxon hoards on the west cost of the USA, that is for sure. But I'm sure the detectorists in England will keep one undiscovered for when you can get over here!
Resonance.
Hello 👋 my simplex is seriously noisy when I hit wet sand or water even after ground balancing .. any ideas why ???
Genial, gracial lo que no entendi ea por que lo baja a 22