Frank Herbert's DUNE || Non-Spoiler and Spoiler Discussion with Sarah, Mike, and Philip!
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- čas přidán 19. 09. 2021
- In this video Mike, Philip, Sarah and I discuss our experience reading or rereading Frank Herbert's Dune. We start out with a non-spoiler section on why you should read Dune and then get into spoilers.
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@TheBookCure
@mikesbookreviews
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
This was a ton of fun and I feel like we could have talked for many more hours. Perhaps we can do so again after we all see the movie? Thanks so much for inviting me!
Mike, you are welcome back anytime, and I would love to do a follow-up discussion after the movie! I also feel like we could have talked for many more hours. Thank you so much for joining us to talk about your favorite book of all time!
I don't really understand why the film already premiered in Europe and in the US only a month from now. But let me say this... I watched it and it's hard to imagine a better and more faithful film adaptation. Denis V. really really understands this book. It looks georgous and the sountrack is great. Also Timothée man crush for sure!
@@marcweber8509 Thank you for sharing that! So excited to watch it!
Says the guy who read the book 13 times!
Mike, doesn’t the folio edition make you want to read over again and again?
Thank you for inviting me to take part in this wonderful discussion on Dune, Johanna! You’re a gracious host, and it’s always a pleasure to chat with Sarah and Mike. That’s why this video is a great example of what is the best of BookTube for me. Cheers!
Always a pleasure to have these discussions, Philip! Thanks again for reading Dune so quickly to participate! I'm so touched and amazed you were able to do that!
Thank you for inviting me along, Johanna! Had a fantastic time discussing the book with everyone. Post-movie discussion sounds like a great idea to me. :)
We should definitely do that! This was a truly special and fun discussion. Thank you so much, Sarah!
This was such a great video, and it was wonderful to hear all the different perspectives. Thank you all for doing this, it was a wonderful discussion to listen to.
Thank you, A.P.! I’m so glad you enjoyed the discussion. I had a great time, and it was neat considering the different histories we’ve all had with the book!
I’ve read Dune 6 -8 times I’ve lost count 😂 it is my comfort book. I have no doubt that I’ll read it more!
I don’t see Jessica diminishing - herself or power, really. I see her grieving a lifetime of love & the office of being both a mother to a people & a mother to her son. Because as our kids come into their own our role shifts and we have to find a new stance. I found it recognizable and affirming. She finds a new mode to still have sway and be a Mother both to her daughter and to the Fermen as reverend. And also finds how to let go of what she believes her Duke’s heir should do or say or have. I just love this story on so many levels!
You all did a beautiful job discussing it. ♥️
Beautifully said! I feel as though I was not accurately able to describe the way I saw her arc, but you provided an excellent interpretation here. Her transformation in no way diminishes her value and essence. Her ability to let go and trust others, Yueh, Paul, and the moment with Gurney when he threatens her life and then realizes he was wrong, truly inspires me. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you all for the great discussion. Just finished my re-read and I ended up loving the novel a lot more. Reading it in my early 20s was all about the plot, while now 30 years later, I can appreciate a lot more. Mind you, my English then was very ‘new', so that could be a factor too.
For me, I loved the circularity of the novel, circles within circles, or even an ouroboros. This can be seen in the Missionaria Protectiva and then the self-fulfilled Prophecy being witnessed, by the sense of fate when everyone knows what will happen to the Duke, a kind of Fate acquired from logical thinking, and then the epigraphs that are from the future recounting events that are now History. The author plays with us too, consistently telling us what will happen, things you’d normally think are the important bits, and yet, they are not. Suspense is still created. And what of the prescience? That could have gone completely wrong ever so easily. Herbert seems to link this to Quantum Physics - I’m not an expert, far from it - which changes what is being observed just by observing it, and I loved that.
Loved the comment from Philip about the language. Herbert seemed to have been a magpie. I saw quite a few French words and that could be due to North Africa’s use of that language (I also found Lawrence of Arabia in there with the ‘Pillars’ but I don’t know enough to go further) . And that leads me to his choice of words, often made to shock - was that deliberate or have the words acquired new connotations after decades? - a bit like Philip Pullman in His Dark Materials. I find myself wanting to check all these lines of thinking and yes, read book 2 and 3.
I love your insights about fate and how that relates to Herbert's epigraphs! That's also very interesting about language. This comment makes me want to get to my third reread sooner! Haha!
I first read Dune when I was 20 years old. This summer I re-read it and was blown away all over again at the age of 65. We get old but great books don't.
Wow! That's incredible! I'm certain I will have that experience if I get the chance to reread it when older. I definitely intend to. Thank you so much for sharing, Curt!
I read it at 14 after becoming intrigued by the book cover at my
Grandparents house, I’ve loved it ever since.
That's the perfect age to read Dune for your first time! I had many friends who read it as teens, and I am going to guess the character of Paul really spoke to them. It's amazing how much there is to appreciate in Dune!
Great conversation! I've read Dune at least ten times...but I don't think I can claim to beat Mike. So hyped for the movie.
That's amazing that you read Dune 10 times! I'm also so hyped for the movie and hope we all love it. Thank you so much for watching!
I'm up to 11 reads. I love the book, obviously, but I think it will be a long time before I read it again. Great video and panel.
11 is very high! That's amazing! I hope it won't be too long before I reread it. This second time was truly incredible for me. Thank you so much!
A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct
Great quote! There are so many great ones in Dune!
Just finished my 1st read & loved it. What a great discussion, thank you! Mike, Sarah, & Philip you guys are truly a treasure. Love your channels, you guys do such a tremendous job. What is awesome now is, I found Johanna who was wonderful, now subscribed! Again great discussion, thank you!
Thank you so much, Ernst! I'm so happy to hear you loved Dune! It was truly wonderful to have Mike, Sarah, and Philip on the channel, and I appreciate your kind words!
Great discussion all of you!
I've only read the first book of Dune once and that was also something like 30 years ago. So far I've resisted the reread frenzy at the moment. But with great videos like this I'm not sure how long that resolve will last. Thanks Johanna!
Oh wow! I cannot recommend the reread enough! I would love to hear your thoughts if you're able to fit it in. I really think you'll enjoy it again! Thank you so much!
Great video, Johanna! I'm really glad you four came together to talk about Dune like this, and just hearing everyone's perspectives. I just finished reading Dune for the first time last weekend, and loved it too. It's a really rich and enlightening story that is going to stick with me for the rest of my life. Always enjoy your channel, and I hope you and the Booktube community continue doing these collaborations and discussions!
Thank you, David! I am thrilled to hear you had such an impactful experience reading Dune for the first time, and I'm happy to hear enjoyed this discussion. I certainly look forward to more collaborative discussions in the future. They are my favorite videos and definitely strengthen the community aspect of BookTube!
This was an amazing discussion. Very personal. Deep dive elements. There were things i noticed and things I am just noticing hearing you all talk. And all of you shared your similar yet different take on the themes. Language, ecology, human, world, politics.. This book has so much to offer and it was interesting to hear your opinions. This is the kind of content I wait for. Thank you.
Thank you for such a kind comment, Zahra! Dune will always be one of my favorite books for this reason. We could probably talk for hours and have so many different perspectives on any one theme in the book. I greatly appreciate it!
really enjoyed the conversation, i agree with mike re the main message for me being being mistrusting the blind trust in messiah-like figures, great vid :-)
That's such a great takeaway from the book! Thank you, Larry!
I'm finally able to watch this video in full! Recency bias is definitely involved but Dune might be my new favourite book.
Yay! I’m so happy to hear that! It’s still one of my favorites. Thanks for watching!
Johanna makes a great host! There's a lot of deceptive depth going on in Dune. It can seem like a lot of certain cliches, but I think he subverts and uses them in an interesting way.
So perfectly said! I think the tropes might seem cliche on a very superficial level, but Herbert was a genius in how he utilized and transformed them. Thank you so much, Matt!
Great video guys thanks for making it, I really enjoyed watching it and hearing everyone’s take on Dune, I love the books and highly recommend reading at lest books 1-4. All the best
Thank you! I read Dune Messiah after this discussion and really enjoyed it! I’m hoping to get to books 3 and 4 this year!
What’s great about this book (among other things) is the way it picks up steam and just builds and builds all the way to the end where it climaxes brilliantly!
That’s true yet I remember wanting just a little more closure at the end. Fortunately, I feel like I got that from reading Dune Messiah and Children of Dune!
@@Johanna_reads I hear ya, I’m doing the same thing now. I’m about 30 pages away from being done with Children of Dune. More!
How is it that Mike always gets me to spend money 💰 I guess it’s Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, and God Emperor of Dune next on that shopping list. Thanks for the video as this is the perfect lead up to my own reread of Dune at the end of this week.
Haha! He's influencing me too! I actually don't own a physical copy of Dune. I borrowed a library copy the first time and read my husband's ebook the second time. Now I want to buy all the fancy editions Mike has and collect others in the series! Thank you so much, Gianni!
Always happy to help!
Sarah, Mike and Philip you were the reason I started reading the Dark Tower series. I'm on the last two books. When I finish those I may jump into Dune.
I love that Sarah, Mike, and Philip have brought attention to The Dark Tower series! I’m reading the series as well though I’ve had to pause after The Wastelands to read some other books. Hope you enjoy the rest of the series and Dune!
I first read the book based of Mikes recommendations
Andrew, I didn't know that! If there's one person to influence anyone to pick up Dune, it should be Mike!
Fantastic discussion. Dune is incredible.
It is an incredible book! Thank you, Coleton!
I ended up reading Dune books 1-8 during the summer of 2020. It’s a shame most people don’t get past the first novel and see where this story truly goes. It’s like reading the Lord of the Rings and stopping at the end. Read them all even the last 2 by his son Brian, it’s well worth your time. This is an Epic like no other.
Thanks for sharing that! One of my biggest reading regrets is that I didn't continue 9 years ago after finishing Dune the first time. I wish I had the time time now that I had then, but I'm sure you're right that it is worth my time!
I just discovered your channel and instantly subscribed, this was a wonderful discussion with wonderful guests! I haven't read Dune (yet), but I watched the movie (being in Europe) - I didn't like the movie as much as I thought I would, it's incredibly slow, the pacing is a bit odd, but the plot is gripping, they are so many interesting subplots happening, things I want to know, that I'll definitely read Dune now to know what happens next (I don't want to wait 2 years for part 2 to come out!).
Thank you so much and welcome here! I love engaging in these type of discussions and look forward to having more in the future. That's too bad you were a bit disappointed with the movie. I'm curious what you'll think of the book after watching it. I hope you enjoy it!
I don't know that a book/video has ever made me feel more Connected than listening to others struggle through pronouncing "Bene Gesserit" as much as I did. 😅🎉
Hahaha! I'm here for butchering all the book pronunciations! 😁
This was an excellent discussion. I read this in August for the first time and I loved it. Lady Jessica is now one of my fav characters, and I look forward to seeing what happens in the other Dune books. My only small issue is I feel part 3 felt a little more rushed than the rest, I felt an extra few pages might have helped.
Thank you so much, Ben! I think I can say the same about Lady Jessica. She is a fascinating woman and mother character, which is so rare to see in classic science fiction novels! I may agree with you about the last section because I just didn't want it to end yet. I wanted to know more.
Loving this!
Hooray!
I really enjoyed this discussion.
Thank you so much for watching!
This discussion was great!! I finished the book last night and wasn't sure about how I felt but I keep thinking about it and I'm excited to reread plus I think I'm going to continue at least the next 2 books.
I loved Alia.... she was one of my fav characters plus Jessica.
I think it's a good sign if you keep thinking about it and are already considering a book you will want to reread! Alia was so interesting, and I absolutely love Jessica as well. I think I'm going to continue with books 2 & 3 too, but not sure how the timing will work out. I'm excited to share more thoughts with you in any case! :)
Thanks for a great discussion. Might pick up Dune at some point!
Thank you for watching! I hope you enjoy Dune if you do pick it up!
Great talk as always with this crew!
Here in Norway, the movie is already out, and I can 100% recommend it, fantastically epic, 5/5 bagpipes! Also hear that even with a limited release only in Europe, it has almost doubled the expected sales, and rivals franchise films such as FF and MCU even with COVID restrictions, so I am now 100% sure we will get a part 2!
In my book it is Sci Fi, but it is primarily “soft science”, sociology, anthropology, ecology/biology etc., as opposed to the physics of “hard sci fi”.
As a religious person and local politician, I admire Herbert’s critique of blindly following leaders for who they are, and not what they do. The destructive bravado of the good Duke Leto, the Baron’s luciferan manipulation through peoples lust of power and desires, and of course Paul is a case all on his own… The character of Lawrence of Arabia is clear inspiration in my mind for Paul, and the filming of the new movie in Jordan, was such great connection to a movie that still holds up!
The betrayal by Yueh is such a good way to criticize those that rely to much on just empathy or logic!
A great book to compare as a thematic counterpoint to “Foundation” by Isaac Asimov (which also are getting an adaption shortly, fingers crossed!), and it’s “psychohistory”: Asimov essentially predicted “Big Data”!
I love the thoughts you shared here, and now I feel as though I cannot watch this movie soon enough! I agree with the soft science description, which appeals to my taste. I did read in the Afterword by Brian Herbert of the Lawrence of Arabia influence, and think there is much to ponder about Yueh. I'm glad the film setting accurately captured stark desert we read about.
I'll have to check out Asminov's Foundation at some point. I've heard fantastic things about that as well. Glad these adaptations are bringing attention to some great Sci-fi works! Thanks!
@@Johanna_reads I am also very pleased to say that Norway was the filming location for the Atreides Home Planet Caladan (West Coast (of Norway) Represent!). Villeneuve know how to juggle the epic and subtle, which I especially loved when it came to the ecology of Arrakis. Also loved that he clearly used shots/ideas from both the failed 70s Jodorowski-production and the 80s Lynch-version, but done in a way that, unlike those versions, give full justice to Herberts vision and ideas!
If I am not mistaken, Herbert was a cousin of sorts of Joseph McCarthy, and knew therefore first hand to the misuse of power by people with “good intentions”. He is often quoted to say that Kennedy was the most dangerous president of his time (full of charisma that almost lead to nuclear war over the Cuba Missile Crisis), while Nixon was the best (shattering people’s blind obedience to the office of the US president with the Watergate-scandal).
My biggest warning with “Foundation”, is that while a lot of now classic tropes has it origin from/was popularized with it, it might be a bit off compared to modern trends: While modern SFF tend to favor great characters, their psychology and their character growth, “Foundation” is sociological and dilemma/solution-oriented: How do the Foundation tasked with preserving knowledge in a galactic dark age solve the problems facing them over multiple generations? To me that was almost refreshing: Nothing against great developing characters, but to show how the actions over multiple generations add up has it own reward in my opinion. Today we are used to see great changes within a decade, where in the past a cathedral could take hundred of years to complete, with meticulous plan and details done by generations that would never see the end result, to the enjoyment of the future generations. A perspective I miss somewhat today, especially in certain political issues such as climate change. But to my recollection the chapters were quick to read, so not too big of a commitment.
I would also mention that Princess Irulan is most likely inspired by Princess Anna Komnena of the Byzantine Empire. She wrote the “Alexiad” about her father Alexos I Komenos, and as such is often called the first female historian.
I truly can’t wait to see the film! I’ve only seen the 80’s film a very long time ago and was a little horrified. It was long while later when I finally picked up the book. Very interesting information about Herbert’s political stance. Thank you for offering such a fantastic synopsis of Foundation! That’s very helpful. I don’t think I’ll be able to get to any of Asimov’s books any time soon, but it really helps knowing that Foundation has more of an overarching theme exploration rather than an intense character focus. I have read some classic sci-fi-though it’s been a while-and have found it more idea or theme-focused than character focused. Thank you so much for sharing!
@@MacScarfield that was a great summary, thanks! I read Foundation this spring, and loved it. The big perspective and long chronology of this book are indeed different from typical newer sci-fi, and it was refreshing. I could see how Dune was influenced by Asimov.
A decade ago, My friend had given me his copy of Dune: Butlerian Jihad and I read it not knowing anything about the series. I didn't really like it. That kept me away from Dune for a long time. Finally I read Dune this year and my mind was blown! There is absolutely no comparison between the two!! Dune is one of the most layered books I've ever read!
I am so glad you gave it a chance after that! The concept of the Butlerian Jihad sounds fascinating, but it's good to know that there is no comparison to Dune. I think it's one of the most layered books I've read as well. Thank you, Kakashi!
Yeah stay away from Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson.
@@philipmarsh2172 I think CZcams might have deleted your "limited omniscience" oxymoron comment, but it made me laugh out loud!
Dune is great. I'll be rereading it very soon. 😊
By the way, I believe the Bene Geserit is based off of the Jesuit Order of the Roman Catholic Church based on my historical knowledge. Worth checking out.
Oh really! That’s fascinating! Thanks for sharing!
I went to read Dune around a year ago but put it down because of the movies delay and so I could focus on other series. What I found interesting about it is how it feels like a fantasy novel, I am not a big Sci Fi reader but it's the first one that I read that didn't feel sci fi to me. But then again I also read Frankenstein and never thought of that as a Sci Fi!
Thanks for sharing that, Billy! Perfect timing to pick it up now, so you'll be refreshed on what happens before watching the film. I can definitely see the fantasy feeling you're talking about and hope you enjoy it!
I read it when it came out, reread it often, so, probably 30 times since then
That's impressive!
I read it in August for the first time. But I can see myself rereading it several times.
Wonderful! I imagine so much to appreciate on each reread of Dune and also look forward to reading it several more times. Thanks for stopping by!
Read 3 times, always classed it as epic fantasy, chosen one, feudal houses, swords, monsters what can you not like.
All true! It’s one of my favorites. I’m looking forward to my third read of Dune though I still need to continue on and read Children of Dune next!
Just read Dune this year, and need to read Dine Messiah. I started it, but stopped reading as I had gallbladder surgery. But, Mike mentioned that he thinks Jessica is the main character. I think I remember seeing the director’s take on the book/movie and he contends the same thing
I hope you are doing well with your recovery from surgery, Emily! I’m eager to get into Dune Messiah, but I’m struggling to figure out when I can fit it in. Hope you enjoy it!
I love Dune with all of my heart! Read it many times. Read the whole Frank Herbert's saga, including some Brian and Kevin's prequels!
A true series fan! I just recently finished Dune Messiah and am looking forward to continuing on in the series. Thanks!
About the adaptation: Dennis V has said that part 2 would have Chani as the protagonist. I'm not sure I see how this would happen without adding material that's not there in the original. Even refocusing the story around her... Maybe it will move forward some elements from the subsequent books.
Interesting! I could kind of see how that might work for the last third of the book, but I really hope everything is successful and that Dune series fans are happy!
I want to reread to pick up some more about the themes and get a more in-depth view. On my first read I was just sucked into the story, I couldn't put it down, it was such an emotional journey. But I think I overread so much things, because I read it so fast.
Love hearing that you enjoyed the emotional storyline of Dune because I feel there is much to love in that alone. That was probably the case for me during my first read through, but I am certain much can be uncovered even after multiple read-throughs. Thanks!
You were talking about the Arabic and south Asian influences so I just wanted to add that there’s also Jewish, Islamic and Buddhist influences in Dune but linguistically and culturally
That's fascinating! I did wonder if there were Buddhist influences. Thank you for sharing!
I died when everyone admitted to not reading the sequels! My gosh, the themes presented in the first book are MUCH expanded upon in the future books.
I actually did read Dune Messiah after this discussion and loved it! I plan to continue on with Children of Dune soon.
@@Johanna_reads For me, Children of Dune is really where the series took root in my heart & mind. I can't wait to get your perspective on Messiah, Children, and the rest!
I am in my 20s and indeed I didn't love Dune on my first read. I didn't hate it. It was a solid 3 star read for me at the time. I do have to say I agree with alot of thoughts being shared. The book is really accesible to read. The prose isn't challenging and the sci-fi elements are not intimidating. My major problem was Herbert's writing style (slowly getting used to it on my second re-read.) and some problematic elements that imo haven't aged well.
I can see the writing style not appealing to all readers, and I know Abby had some issues with content she considered problematic. Always great to hear your thoughts! Thanks for sharing!
The Spice must Flow .....
Yes! I love Dune so much!
Only read the first 3 twice. DNF'd GEoD for years then restarted after reading some of the prequels and pushed through to the end. I don't have the vehemence towards Brian Herbert's works as others but they are just different.
But if I were to reread just one part of a series it would be GEoD and Toll to see if my reading tastes have changed.
But strongly suggest at least reading the first three.
For me, Herbert essentially took out technology. This is one of the reasons I didn't care for Foundation as much as it is really dated as Asimov loves his tech.
Thank you for sharing that, Eric! I really want to read the first three and then decide whether to continue on. I may try Asimov someday, but I intend to read more in the Dune series first.
I really recommend reading the sequels!
Thanks for adding that! I need to figure out how to fit them in. I'm so eager to read on!
The other theme all through all the books is LOVE, in last two books that Atreides gene that is led by love is still making its mark.
It’s known as a “wildness” in the line, even for the God Emperor
Jessica’s behaviour and choices all come from love, and then I think from shame particularly in book 3.
I am not up to 13 rereads on the 6 books, but not too far behind, and I love all 6 books, in particular 4,5 and 6 ❤
I loved Daniel Green’s reading of Dune, book 1 and he was sure he was done didn’t need to read more. Book 2, ok done now great story arc no need for more. Then book 3 and he was mind blown.
Book 4 and despite it being a different book his mind was racing off on thought after thought.
He then decided he was done, which is a shame because 5 and 6 are a blast ❤
Here in Oz we have these amazing sand worms at our beaches. They can get pretty long, and I often wonder if Frank had heard of them.
I had always thought the worms were a slightly big leap till I moved to Australia and saw them for myself
Oh how funny! I'm actually visiting Australia right now. Maybe I'll get the opportunity to see an Australian sand worm! I ended up reading Dune Messiah and Children of Dune and absolutely loved the three book arc! I may eventually get to God Emperor for more wormy weirdness.
I have NO idea how many times I've read the first book? Maybe a hundred, I hesitate to say more than a hundred. Sounds incredible? Well, there's a reason. I was born in the time before Internet was a real thing, and I spent much of my young working life without mobile interenet. So even though I read a lot at home, I tended to bring Dune to work to read on while at work. I wore out two paperbacks, and the third looks like it was severely mistreated. I even kept reading it religiously after ebooks were a thing, because buying ebooks was WAY to expensive for my reading speed (I read rather fast). It's only after I found out amateur fiction and started reading a lot of it (which is 99.9% trash) I've slowed down my Dune re-reads. But I made an estimate some 10 years ago that I read it about once a month, at average. At conservative estimate that's about 200 reads. I don't want to claim such ridiculous numbers, though. So, let's say in the hundred range?
Math is as follows: let's say I haven't read it in 10 years. And I first read it around age 12-13. So let's say I've been reading it since I was 14. So that means there's 16 years where I read it once a month. Remember, I speed read. So this means I can read other stuff too in the same month. So 16 x 12 months = 192. But that's assuming I haven't read it in 10 years.
That's just a ridiculous number. I don't believe it. So... yeah. Make your own guesstimate.
Okay, you win! That's amazing! I would love to hear your in-depth thoughts on Dune if you ever write a blog or start a channel. 😊 Plus, I think you deserve a fancy edition at this point! Thanks for stopping by!
Dune is a great book!!!
It really is! I'm so glad you loved it too, Andrew!
This was a really interesting discussion.
I read Dune last week and I can appreciate it for the aspects you discussed in this. However for me it was unfortunately really problematic that by the end it left a really bad taste in my mouth
Thank you, Abby! I saw your Instagram story, and although I didn't have that experience, I really look forward to hearing you talk more in depth about it and would be open to acknowledging those aspects-even in a book I love as much as Dune. Thank you for watching and still leaving a thoughtful comment!
Will you be covering the other books in Frank Herbert’s Dune series?
I’ve read Dune four times and so glad to see it discussed to such an extent
And if so then also Brian Herbert’s other Dune books?
That's great that you've read it 4 times! I am very interested in reading at least the next two books in the Dune series, and maybe more. I'm just trying to figure out how to fit them into some very packed reading plans for the rest of the year.
@@Johanna_reads
My 2nd time was in Afghanistan in 2012 and it felt like such a different read compared to my 1st when I was a teenager
Recent events in Afghanistan brings aspects of the story to light for me
@@jameswitts3793 I am sure that was a very different experience while in Afghanistan! 2012 is the year I read Dune the first time!
I have tried to read Dune at least 13 times! Does that count? hahaha However, hearing ho others felt about it on a first read and feel about it now, maybe I do need to actually just get through it. I have a feeling I would really like it if I can just make it past the first 200 pages or so haha.
Hahaha!!! I know this will sound crazy to say about one of my favorite books of all time but it's okay to give up, especially if you've tried several times. Everyone's different and it did take Mike a few times before he loved it, but I think you can have a pretty good sense of whether you would enjoy a book like this after 50 pages or so. Thanks for trying and watching! 😅
@@Johanna_reads I do still plan on getting to LoTR in December. I think I will get along more with that!😎
Mike looking like “you noobs”
Hahaha! Philip did read the book 30 years ago, but perhaps Mike does earn that right after 13 reads!
Even though I did enjoy dune I don't have any intention of ever rereading it I rarely do rereads on books 😀👍🤔
I'm glad you enjoyed it the first time! Though I did love my reread of Dune, sometimes nothing compares to the first time. Thanks, Angela!
I'm currently at my second read of Dune,so Mike is still the Emperor of Arrakis.
Hahaha! I hope you enjoy your second read of Dune!
@@Johanna_reads Oh yeah,better than my first read through.
Golf club go BRRRRRRRRR
@@Johanna_reads I just completed my second read of dune and this book is amazing at high school age
My dad bought dune as my FIRST book
I could understand ntg
Great dad! That would make it extra special!
waiting foe that torrent release
Hmm...I don't know about this.
It has been 40 years since I read Dune. Loved it and spent many many hours playing the original Dune board game. I am definitely planning my reread in 2022. Great conversation. Thanks 🙏.
Wow! You have Philip beat! Amazing that it left such a lasting impression on you, though I'm not surprised given how much the book impacted so many of us. I would love to hear your thoughts upon reread. Thank you so much!
I just want to drop a quick comment and say that the more I think about it the more I realize having prescient sight would be TERRIFYING.
That's what I gathered from Paul! Then again, I think traveling through space in and of itself is terrifying. Human adaptation is incredible. Thanks!
I read Frank Herbert's Dune books 2 months or so ago I think based on Mike's influence. While I thought the world building, philosophy, themes, social commentary, etc were all top notch, I don't think Frank Herbert is that great a storyteller, and that keeps it from being up near the top of my list.
The main thing I got out of reading Dune is seeing how influential it's been on other things I liked a whole lot better.
Interesting! You're not alone in that assessment. My husband read Dune and wasn't enthralled at all. I have no complaints about the story telling personally, but I am one who prefers stories that incorporate layered themes, philosophy, social commentary, etc. Definitely agree about appreciating Dune's influence!
I totally agree. Kind of the gist of the book review I did a couple of days ago on my channel. 😊
Finally read this book, didn't like it that much, think this book is extremely overrated
I’m sorry you didn’t have a good experience with it!
all good i dont think you need to saw sorry tho senorita haaha