Man, as a mexican myself I can only say one thing: thank you for doing this video, I think there's not bigger respect towards a culture than to be accurate to the real history and tell it as it is, so thank you for teaching stuff that most Mexicans probably don't even know, and keeping that real history alive
@@ulucio86 Yeah, vaqueros of the American West embodied Spanish tradition intermixed with New World/indigenous influences- but you're correct that the foundation is certainly Spanish. Arnold Rojas (author of 'These Were the Vaqueros') makes no qualms about that in his works, much of which involve his travels to and through Spain tracing vaquero history to its origin. The Spanish were the ones who brought horses, cattle, and the vaquero tradition to the New World. Period. But it certainly evolved once here into a unique style, with new equipment, vocabulary, etc, thanks to those Mexican/indigenous influences, in much the same way that the vaquero also evolved into the 'American Cowboy' iteration in Texas and the Northern Ranges. But Spain is the birthplace, as Rocco points out. I highly recommend Rojas' books on the subject for anyone interested in tracing all this through history. They're amazing.
@@ulucio86 Yes, that's why it is engraved in the mestizo culture (we mexicans are mostly mestizos, native+spanish) Native and Spanish history is also our history, we are their descendants wether you like it or not
I love how 1907 John's Spanish is worse than his 1911 Spanish. In 1911 he says "¿mi nombre es John Marston, comprende?" While in 1907 he rides a mule into a group of Del Lobos firing off his sidearm yelling "¡BEUNAS NOCHES!" as his mount brays.
Well, it's not just you vaquero is literally cowboy in spanish. Anyone who does a little research will know they came first its just that not everyone will
@@BastiatC There is no such thing as 'appropriation'. If you can be a vaquero, an outlaw, an immigrant turned rancher, a free black adventurer, a soldier (north or south), you can be anything. RPG = Role playing game.
Mexican Vaquero follows the Texas Cowboy around screaming “YOU WISH YOU WERE ME” in spanish and running away before he can get caught to mess with the Cowboy.
I'm named after my great great grandfather, who was a vaquero himself. He fought under Pancho Villa. He was known for being around 6ft tall, always had bandolers a massive sombrero. And at every chance he had, he would be riding his massive horse.
That’s awesome! I want to name my character after my great great grandpa too. He was a zapatista. I don’t know a lot about him but he was unfortunately betrayed by his godson. I wish to remember him and honor him and I feel like I’ve learned so much about my roots thanks to this video!
There are actually Gloves with decorative fringes on them, the Mountfleet Gloves from Gus, the Trapper, All you need is to sell him a perfect goat pelt to buy a pair that you think would look best colorwise.
We taught white boys to lasso, we sold supplies to Comanches, we broke and sold wild horses tow the armies. Thank you for acknowledging our place in the timeline of the American west 🇲🇽 🇺🇸
No you and other Indian tribes got terrorized by the Comanche. The Comanche ran amok for years they raped, looted and plundered. Finally the Comanche ran in to some bad ass white boys from places like Tennessee who would actually fight back, later those white boys would be known as Texans.
Me, too, man. Me, too... Though it has been my girlfriend goofing around with me more than it's been griefers! To be fair, I usually start it, though...
@@SawRunner One can dream, there are rumours going around that they will remake the first RDR, if that's true that would be the only chance we might get to see Mexico added to the map. If they do confirm the RDR remake I would expect them to just reuse the RDR 2 map and fill in Mexico , if there's no RDR 1 remake confirmation I think there's no chance of Mexico ever happening, even with RDR1 remake it's possible that we might not get it anyway for RDR online but it's the best shot.
@@abstractfactory8068 I’ve glitches out to Mexico before in red dead redemption 1 and it’s funny how there’s allot of things modeled like trails and such but what’s weird is how there is a fort there with no collision so I like to think they were gonna add Mexico then scrapped it so maybe they might add it later on like cayo perico
My 3x great grandpa used to work in Arizona at a ranch with a vaquero named Enrique Gutierrez. When he left, Enrique gave my 3x great grandpa his sombrero. Unfortunately, it got misplaced and it hasn't been seen in about 100 years. :(
Awesome man. Glad to see I wasn’t too far off with my characters outfits. I really enjoyed this video. All we need now is a Mexican outlaws and gunfighters. Hoping that video will eventually be made. Anyways have a good rest of your day 🤠🤠
Thanks for your work on this one-my world paradigm shifted so much this past year when I realized how much of “cowboy culture” was an adoption of vaquero culture. Early Spanish vaquero history is so fascinating, so I’ll definitely be checking out These Were the Vaqueros. Thanks again!
It's a really fun read, Taylor. It's massive (around 500-600 pages) but the entire thing is just little stories- some only a paragraph long, most only half a page. Makes for great 'opportune' reading moments, when you've only got 10-15 mins.
I miss the old outlaw passes. The clothes in them where cool because they were historically critical to some outfits. To this day I kick myself in the rear for not getting the first outlaw pass so i could get the leather gauntlets for my cowboy. Now a days these passes have...well i dont even know how to explain the outfits and clothes in new passes
That’s why MvH is great and original with what he does! Luckily, Rockstar gave us the ingredients to work with like, having the open world set in the Frontier era and all the details they added. It’s just up to us players to bake up our own fun and imagination in this massive Old West open-world! I know we need A LOT more content, DLCs, and just a better experience for us Online players, hell...even Story, but what MvH does that’s perfect and inspiring, is he’s really bringing out the true history of the time, and showing off the world Rockstar created with what we got, which is still a good amount of “props” and etc to make some legit exploration. It’s awesome how many vids MvH has pumped out just on true topics, with every video incredibly detailed and well-researched! 🤠 that’s just my random two cents lol.
I speak Spanish and i never caught the sombrero/Sombra connection, lol and i never new where the chaps got the name ... Also also, "arma" which is "short for armadura" was interesting because now a days "la arma" is weapons which is where the English "arms" gets it's roots
"He grabbed his riata". Now that's historically accurate. Even though the "riata" word keeps its meaning as a lasso, it's mostly used by the elder and everyone else just use it as in "dick"
You know it's a good day when Man vs. History uploads! I've been super pumped for a video like this, the Vaqueros influenced so much of Western Culture to an insane degree, and are legendary horsemen, ranchers, and western legends in their own right and I love your take on them!
When you come for cool outfit ideas in a video game but stay for all the history facts. Keep up the amazing work man, my friend thanks you. He's Mexican and wanted a historically accurate look for his character in our gang. The whole gang wears outfits based on tge info you have us and we have a blast role playing in game
Lassos were used on bulls all the way back in Ancient Egypt. There's a carving in the temple of Seti I, of the pharaoh holding a lasso, and then another of him holding a bull with the lasso looped around its horns.
You fellas should read about “Texas Jack” Omohundro! He’s technically the first Cowboy star, that inspired Buffalo Billy Cody, etc but his stories and skills with the lasso were badass!
Historically accurate Mexican Vaquero? Well, that all depends on what era are we talking about. The Mexican costume has changed a lot through out the last 400 years. For example, the stereotypical high conical crown sombrero did not come into use until the 1880’s. Before that, the Mexican sombrero, called Jarano (harano), had a low rounded or low flat crown. The name sombrero just means hat in Spanish; the actual name of the hat is Jarano. Until the 1870’s the boots that the Mexicans used were called “Botas Campaneras” or “Botas de campana” which means “Bell boots” because they looked like bells; they were actually not boots, but two pieces of tough deerskin wrapped around the lower leg. Until then the pants, called calzoneras, were left open at the bottom to show off the “boots.” The botas campaneras are no longer in use, and since the 1870’s the Mexicans use the common Wellington boot. The Armas or Armas de Agua (water shields), started to go out of style in the 1830’s. Although you can still find them in use today in some mountain areas of Sinaloa and Durango. The Armas, were two pieces of goat skin hung from the saddle horn and protected the pants from the rain. They could also serve as a table or bed. It was in the 1830’s when the Chaparreras (chaps) came into use, thus replacing the Armas. Chaparreras in the 19th century were made out of different materials: Jaguar, puma, bear, cow and goat skin. The Poncho is South American. The Mexicans used a Sarape and a Manga; the Manga resembled the Poncho but the Manga was more elaborate and expensive. Today Mangas are no longer used, while Sarapes still exist. If you want a more earlier look, say the 1600’s, the clothing would be much different. The oldest description of clothing worn by Mexican vaqueros (who were mostly mulattos, mestizos and blacks) is from 1607. Father Ramírez de Alarcón mentions them in a report about the situation of the inhabitants of Nueva Galicia (present day Jalisco and Zacatecas). Ramírez de Alarcón complains and warns the authorities about this “outlaw” Vaqueros that roam the countryside on horseback well armed: “These people are agile, robust and grow in their generation and multiply too much, and you can very well expect trouble, because […] there is a man who gathers 300 men on horseback from these outlaws to work as Vaqueros, and most are armed with strong Cueras, arquebuses, scythes, hocking knives and other weapons.” These Vaqueros wore “Cueras” which at the time, was a kind of leather armor or jacket that served as armor, made out of cuero or rawhide. The Cuera was similar to the European buff coat. Their weapons: the arquebus, scythes, knives and “hocking knive” called “Desjarretadera” (de-hocker) a long lance with a sharp crescent moon shaped blade at the tip that was used to incapacitate wild bulls by cutting the “jarrete” or hocks. This is before roping came into use.
As a native Mexican, this video explains a lot of history that I had no knowledge about. It's incredibly enlightening and I would love to see your historical take on Mexican revolutionary men and Soldadera women. Specially Pancho Villa, Emiliano Zapata, or La Adelita.
I wanted to make a mexican character and you don't know how much this helped me! I was scared he would turn out to look like Javier Escuella or some stereotypical mexican peep but this helped me so much to make someone normal and unique looking! (Also yeah those pants have my last name lol) I was also thinking of a suggestion considering how much fancy clothes rockstar added into the game that it would be interesting if you could teach us about fancy and rich people at the time and see if the over the top accesories can be used in some accurate way, would be nice :)
I only barely knew about how farmers had their own “vaqueros” to help around,my mom told me about how my grandpa had problems with a vaquero from another ranch next to his almost ending in a gun battle
Vaqueros was a topic of one of my history classes back in 6th grade( we won’t go into how long ago that was😂) our history teacher was a Wild West fan and we learned about everything Cowboy . What got me was the Brazilians used Bolas instead of a traditional lariat. Always impressed the heck out of me. Thanks again for making these.
6:55 Well he does say they were used in the Sierra Nevada mountains in California; even they get cold, and the cold tends to hit you harder if you're used to the hot desert.
Wow! This was so cool, amazing video. You gave us everything, clothes, outfits, accessories and even horses. What about your in game scenes, they’re always dope. Thank you so much for all this, it definitely makes playing RDO more enjoyable. Maybe soon we can see a video about the women of the old west; what they used to do and of course how they used to dress depending on social classes or something.
I wonder are you going to make a video about historically accurate tomb raiders/treasure hunters in rdo? Because it will be interesting to see the early years of a very young science called archaeology others during that time also see explorer clubs slowly building up to the well-known organizations that we know them today.
The Rowberry pants are the most historically accurate Vaquero pants in my opinion, and the Rowberry shirt is the most historically accurate Native America shirt in view as well.
The very first cowboys were Mexican , because it started in Mexico im pretty sure but thanks as a Mexican I couldn't find any outfits and your knowledge is crazy good on our culture ,thanks man
I know you don't usually talk about the potential firearms of the game but I've read about something I think might interest you. The Cass Repeating Belt Gun. It was a repeater style rifle which got its name from the belt of paper cartridges stored in the stock, making the stock very bulky and gun extremely back heavy. It held 26 rounds in it's stock belt and the stock opened up for replacement of the belt. There are sadly only two specimens that remain and they have differences if memory serves it was one having an octagonal barrel, different rifling, and different sights. The gun was invented in 1840s-50s and while it's bulkiness means it is unlikely anyone but it's inventor (the patent was made in the northern states, but on of the specimens was found in Texas) ever journeyed with it. Regardless it is an overlooked but massively overlooked landmark in firearms history as it was likely one of the first true belt fed guns.
Sounds awesome! I always thought that once in a while R* should hold a flea market in game, where you could by old obsolete firearms (and other items) for your own amusement. Stuff that isn't very effective compared to 1898 technology (think old black powder rifles with their reloading time, etc) but is still there for folks who want to collect and use old weapons as they please. This would be a way to incorporate a gun like the Cass.
I think that would be too short of a video, and also not for a very wide audience. Perhaps he should've covered it in his "Historical accuracy of Saloons" video
Seriously love and appreciate your videos--it's a fine thing when history and videogames come together like this. Eager to see more historical Mexican outfits/history, like outlaw/bandito/fringes of society types. Have a good one.
Growing up in DFW, San Antonio, Albuquerque/Santa fe, and west Texas, I thank you. This is how I made my RDOnline character, now i have a better way to dress my Vaquera.
Gotta respect the work that you put into verbally distinguishing chaps vs chaps. It takes real dedication to not just lampshade it with a throwaway joke and move on.
Hey I’d like to add something on the topic of horses! While all color mustangs were used by vaqueros, the closest to the Kiger would be the Tiger Striped Bay Dun! Lots of the Kigers have the striped zebra markings on their legs and down the back! Also, another horse candidate could be the criollo. Some vaquero-like figures used this breed, including Mexican revolutionary Pancho Villa. He named his horse “Siete Leguas” or “Seven Leagues” in English, because that’s how far she could ride in a day. Your video was awesome and I love vaquero culture. Thanks for the awesome info!
I actually have a Lemoyner outfit which may be close enough given the sort of culture to Lemoyne. I use a dark brown worn flop hat, a red neckerchief, a white everday overshirt, brown cross back suspenders, green worn rolled pants, and black preachers pride boots. Is anything innacurate about that?
I have literally now watched all your episodes you have its kinda bitter sweet but I can say I really enjoyed each and every video you have made . Great job and hope to see new episodes 😀
Just saw this video! My first direct ancestor in CA was a conquistador with de Portola/Serra's expedition, which makes me a Californio. On top of that, my great-great grandfather, Tranzito Rojas, was a gaucho born in Valparaiso, Chile, but moved to central California sometime after the American Civil War. He was a master roper and was able to lasso a quail in mid flight. It would be right to be doubtful of such a story, but I have heard it from several relatives over the years as well as some old-timers who met him when they were children around the turn of the century.
@@VictorDude98 kind of did. Was mostly by small Italian American crime families in New York. Began in the 1860s, and became powerful in the latter 19th century and the 20th century. Also, wasn’t referred to mafia, more like cosa nostra
@@VictorDude98 yeah they did look up the black hand, that’s what they were called at the time. Why people comment so confidently without actually knowing is beyond me lololol
The Vaqueros were the ones who taught the Hawaiian people the art of horsemanship and ranching. Their influence gave way to the Paniolos Hawaii's own cowboys. As someone who has interests in the Old West and a little bit of Hawaiian blood myself, this connected history gives me great joy!
Heck yeah! Paniolos owe it all to the vaqueros, many of which settled down in Hawaii after they were brought over to jumpstart cattle operations on the islands. Pretty cool, little known pocket of cowboy culture!
Let’s not forget The south west was México at one time. Oh yea the Rodeo comes from México yes bullriding and and all that stuff yea comes from old Mexico
Would love to see a big game hunter outfit, I have been using the mountain man look for hunting but was looking for something that maybe someone like guss would wear, didn't know if they was any sort of historical thing when it came to this, I was interested in this since I have been using the double barreled shotgun to hunt bears and elk with slug rounds, it pretty fun.
I'm from México and I love your channel, but must important I really enjoyed and loved this video, thank you so much for sharing this information with all of us.
Man, as a mexican myself I can only say one thing: thank you for doing this video, I think there's not bigger respect towards a culture than to be accurate to the real history and tell it as it is, so thank you for teaching stuff that most Mexicans probably don't even know, and keeping that real history alive
You bet, buddy! Happy to help!
Good job señor, thanks have a good day.
Your culture? Dude Vaqueros literally originated in Salamanca, Spain it was brought to Mexico and other regions of Spanish America in the late 1600’s.
@@ulucio86 Yeah, vaqueros of the American West embodied Spanish tradition intermixed with New World/indigenous influences- but you're correct that the foundation is certainly Spanish. Arnold Rojas (author of 'These Were the Vaqueros') makes no qualms about that in his works, much of which involve his travels to and through Spain tracing vaquero history to its origin. The Spanish were the ones who brought horses, cattle, and the vaquero tradition to the New World. Period. But it certainly evolved once here into a unique style, with new equipment, vocabulary, etc, thanks to those Mexican/indigenous influences, in much the same way that the vaquero also evolved into the 'American Cowboy' iteration in Texas and the Northern Ranges. But Spain is the birthplace, as Rocco points out. I highly recommend Rojas' books on the subject for anyone interested in tracing all this through history. They're amazing.
@@ulucio86 Yes, that's why it is engraved in the mestizo culture (we mexicans are mostly mestizos, native+spanish) Native and Spanish history is also our history, we are their descendants wether you like it or not
I love how 1907 John's Spanish is worse than his 1911 Spanish. In 1911 he says "¿mi nombre es John Marston, comprende?" While in 1907 he rides a mule into a group of Del Lobos firing off his sidearm yelling "¡BEUNAS NOCHES!" as his mount brays.
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"Perdon pero hablo un solo poquito Español"
Inconsistency like that usually tends to happen when you release a prequel after the initial game. Especially when they're years apart
@@moffgideon it seems like it could be consistent? he's less experienced in the region during the epilogue.
@@moffgideon It's not inconsistency...he knew LESS Spanish in 1907 then 1911, he had 4 years to learn what...a sentence more? LOL
The vaqueros were the original 'cowboys'. I've been saying this for years. Well played sir. Also, Rockstar needs to add sashes to wear with belts.
We need Indian paraphernalia more. We have almost 0 as it is.
Feathers would be the big one.
And, Indian NPC's.
Well, it's not just you vaquero is literally cowboy in spanish. Anyone who does a little research will know they came first its just that not everyone will
@@Dirtbag-Hyena I think that's deliberately not included. They don't want flac for appropriation
@@Dirtbag-Hyena #RepopulateWapiti
@@BastiatC There is no such thing as 'appropriation'. If you can be a vaquero, an outlaw, an immigrant turned rancher, a free black adventurer, a soldier (north or south), you can be anything. RPG = Role playing game.
Imagine having a lobby full of people playing characters based off of these vids, that’d be awesome role-play
Create that and I'll join. I'm sure u can find ppl to build a community that would make that possible.
@@IzzyRomo I'd love to play online roleplaying a lot.
duuuuuuude, almost as awesome as that bong rip.
@@TognaEm myy man😂
Mexican Vaquero follows the Texas Cowboy around screaming “YOU WISH YOU WERE ME” in spanish and running away before he can get caught to mess with the Cowboy.
I'm named after my great great grandfather, who was a vaquero himself. He fought under Pancho Villa. He was known for being around 6ft tall, always had bandolers a massive sombrero. And at every chance he had, he would be riding his massive horse.
He sounds pretty awesome!
That’s awesome! I want to name my character after my great great grandpa too. He was a zapatista. I don’t know a lot about him but he was unfortunately betrayed by his godson. I wish to remember him and honor him and I feel like I’ve learned so much about my roots thanks to this video!
My great grandfather invaded into New Mexico with Villa and was killed in Zacatecas my tio in North Carolina still has his rifle
@@elmochomo8218 My great, great aunts still have my ancestor's Sombrero, revolvers, and bandoleers. But they are still in Mexico.
There are actually Gloves with decorative fringes on them, the Mountfleet Gloves from Gus, the Trapper, All you need is to sell him a perfect goat pelt to buy a pair that you think would look best colorwise.
Was just gonna comment this
Thanks
We taught white boys to lasso, we sold supplies to Comanches, we broke and sold wild horses tow the armies.
Thank you for acknowledging our place in the timeline of the American west 🇲🇽 🇺🇸
For me it wouldn't be the west without natives, Mexicanos, or blacks
But you specificly can Lasso? Or Horse Ride?
@@Kravenrogue I can’t really lasso but most Mexicans still can ride a horse like me
yeah we also got raided by the comanche and apache, killed each other a lot too. And taught the Navajo metallurgy.
No you and other Indian tribes got terrorized by the Comanche. The Comanche ran amok for years they raped, looted and plundered. Finally the Comanche ran in to some bad ass white boys from places like Tennessee who would actually fight back, later those white boys would be known as Texans.
To this day vaqueros and Caballeros are some of the best horseman you'll ever see
Caballeros means gentlemen or knight
@@silverdays2909 horseman
Charros & Guachos too.
"Jinete" is more appropied word to horseman. Caballero is more used to say gentleman. (Sorry for my english).
@@silverdays2909 it’s used as that in Mexico but it means horseman you just went on google translate probably
You're content makes my day and it gives history so much more context through the game and photos
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Agree! This historical time has come ALIVE playing this game. Love it!
@@hdruktenis fr been watching since before I started Rdo his videos are wonderful
As a Mexican American I am very pleased. ¡Viva México!
🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
QUE VIVA
I hope you know you're giving people a reason to grind with each new video.
I've been in that cougar's position in RDO unfortunately XD
Was she hot?
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Me, too, man. Me, too... Though it has been my girlfriend goofing around with me more than it's been griefers! To be fair, I usually start it, though...
ManvsHistory: just relaxin, trying to play RDO historically accurate
Rockstar games: *hipster beards and gold guns*
Gotta appeal to the 12-year-olds in Portland, lol.
It would be nice if R* added Mexico in a future dlc
They map is large and with all the possibilities already there would be even more possibilities with mexico
im surprised there are people that still hope it will be added - no, it won't
@@SawRunner One can dream, there are rumours going around that they will remake the first RDR, if that's true that would be the only chance we might get to see Mexico added to the map. If they do confirm the RDR remake I would expect them to just reuse the RDR 2 map and fill in Mexico , if there's no RDR 1 remake confirmation I think there's no chance of Mexico ever happening, even with RDR1 remake it's possible that we might not get it anyway for RDR online but it's the best shot.
@@SawRunner let a man dream 😔
@@abstractfactory8068 I’ve glitches out to Mexico before in red dead redemption 1 and it’s funny how there’s allot of things modeled like trails and such but what’s weird is how there is a fort there with no collision so I like to think they were gonna add Mexico then scrapped it so maybe they might add it later on like cayo perico
Yes I'm watching this all the way through I've been wanting this
"The power of a stallion is in the size of is testes." Flashbacks to Irish cupping a horse's balls in RDR1 intensify.
😭😭😭
You should do a historically accurate Mexican Revolutionary
Hell yeah
Yeah
I don’t think there was a uniform
That and historically accurate bandido
@@BisexualPlagueDoctorhe’s talking about Villastas and Zapatistas
My 3x great grandpa used to work in Arizona at a ranch with a vaquero named Enrique Gutierrez.
When he left, Enrique gave my 3x great grandpa his sombrero. Unfortunately, it got misplaced and it hasn't been seen in about 100 years. :(
Awesome man. Glad to see I wasn’t too far off with my characters outfits. I really enjoyed this video. All we need now is a Mexican outlaws and gunfighters. Hoping that video will eventually be made. Anyways have a good rest of your day 🤠🤠
For now I'd just play with Mexican cowboys but throw in some outlaw themes items, like bandoilers, bandanas
Thanks for your work on this one-my world paradigm shifted so much this past year when I realized how much of “cowboy culture” was an adoption of vaquero culture. Early Spanish vaquero history is so fascinating, so I’ll definitely be checking out These Were the Vaqueros. Thanks again!
It's a really fun read, Taylor. It's massive (around 500-600 pages) but the entire thing is just little stories- some only a paragraph long, most only half a page. Makes for great 'opportune' reading moments, when you've only got 10-15 mins.
I miss the old outlaw passes. The clothes in them where cool because they were historically critical to some outfits. To this day I kick myself in the rear for not getting the first outlaw pass so i could get the leather gauntlets for my cowboy. Now a days these passes have...well i dont even know how to explain the outfits and clothes in new passes
Es curioso; acá en el sur de Oaxaca la gente sigue vistiéndose de manera similar, llevando vidas similares a las reflejadas en el video
Es que ahí no ha llegado la civilización xd
@@destrugodv2378 ahahaha
Based oaxacans
Sad how you are making amazing content for a game not even the developers seem to care abt. Much respect for you sir. Balls of steel indeed
That’s why MvH is great and original with what he does! Luckily, Rockstar gave us the ingredients to work with like, having the open world set in the Frontier era and all the details they added. It’s just up to us players to bake up our own fun and imagination in this massive Old West open-world! I know we need A LOT more content, DLCs, and just a better experience for us Online players, hell...even Story, but what MvH does that’s perfect and inspiring, is he’s really bringing out the true history of the time, and showing off the world Rockstar created with what we got, which is still a good amount of “props” and etc to make some legit exploration. It’s awesome how many vids MvH has pumped out just on true topics, with every video incredibly detailed and well-researched! 🤠 that’s just my random two cents lol.
I speak Spanish and i never caught the sombrero/Sombra connection, lol and i never new where the chaps got the name ... Also also, "arma" which is "short for armadura" was interesting because now a days "la arma" is weapons which is where the English "arms" gets it's roots
Achievement Unlocked: Cat-apult! - Lasso a cougar and use momentum to launch it into a tree. killing it.
Vaquero: "hold my tequila..."
"He grabbed his riata". Now that's historically accurate. Even though the "riata" word keeps its meaning as a lasso, it's mostly used by the elder and everyone else just use it as in "dick"
Ha! I didn't know that! Is that just in Mexico, or elsewhere as well?
@@ManvsHistory I can only speak for México... but I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case in another country
@@angelnolasco9723 Me neither!
@@angelnolasco9723 Nor would I
You know it's a good day when Man vs. History uploads! I've been super pumped for a video like this, the Vaqueros influenced so much of Western Culture to an insane degree, and are legendary horsemen, ranchers, and western legends in their own right and I love your take on them!
When you come for cool outfit ideas in a video game but stay for all the history facts.
Keep up the amazing work man, my friend thanks you. He's Mexican and wanted a historically accurate look for his character in our gang. The whole gang wears outfits based on tge info you have us and we have a blast role playing in game
Ah, that's cool, Lee! Makes me happy to hear that! Thank you gentlemen for watching the vids and making those historically accurate outfits!
I have a question, when did the lasso become popular among cowboys and vaqueros? When the cattle drive had started? Or did it come from Europe?
Lassos were used on bulls all the way back in Ancient Egypt. There's a carving in the temple of Seti I, of the pharaoh holding a lasso, and then another of him holding a bull with the lasso looped around its horns.
@@MisterKisk Ahh, interesting. If that’s not where they first derived from than Idk where
Perhaps even older like ancient Mesopotamian culture, but I would suspect that it was in a time during agriculture’s genesis
You fellas should read about “Texas Jack” Omohundro! He’s technically the first Cowboy star, that inspired Buffalo Billy Cody, etc but his stories and skills with the lasso were badass!
Not Billy lol, but that has a better ring to it than “Buffalo Bill” 👆😎
Historically accurate Mexican Vaquero? Well, that all depends on what era are we talking about. The Mexican costume has changed a lot through out the last 400 years. For example, the stereotypical high conical crown sombrero did not come into use until the 1880’s. Before that, the Mexican sombrero, called Jarano (harano), had a low rounded or low flat crown. The name sombrero just means hat in Spanish; the actual name of the hat is Jarano.
Until the 1870’s the boots that the Mexicans used were called “Botas Campaneras” or “Botas de campana” which means “Bell boots” because they looked like bells; they were actually not boots, but two pieces of tough deerskin wrapped around the lower leg. Until then the pants, called calzoneras, were left open at the bottom to show off the “boots.” The botas campaneras are no longer in use, and since the 1870’s the Mexicans use the common Wellington boot.
The Armas or Armas de Agua (water shields), started to go out of style in the 1830’s. Although you can still find them in use today in some mountain areas of Sinaloa and Durango. The Armas, were two pieces of goat skin hung from the saddle horn and protected the pants from the rain. They could also serve as a table or bed. It was in the 1830’s when the Chaparreras (chaps) came into use, thus replacing the Armas. Chaparreras in the 19th century were made out of different materials: Jaguar, puma, bear, cow and goat skin.
The Poncho is South American. The Mexicans used a Sarape and a Manga; the Manga resembled the Poncho but the Manga was more elaborate and expensive. Today Mangas are no longer used, while Sarapes still exist.
If you want a more earlier look, say the 1600’s, the clothing would be much different. The oldest description of clothing worn by Mexican vaqueros (who were mostly mulattos, mestizos and blacks) is from 1607. Father Ramírez de Alarcón mentions them in a report about the situation of the inhabitants of Nueva Galicia (present day Jalisco and Zacatecas). Ramírez de Alarcón complains and warns the authorities about this “outlaw” Vaqueros that roam the countryside on horseback well armed: “These people are agile, robust and grow in their generation and multiply too much, and you can very well expect trouble, because […] there is a man who gathers 300 men on horseback from these outlaws to work as Vaqueros, and most are armed with strong Cueras, arquebuses, scythes, hocking knives and other weapons.”
These Vaqueros wore “Cueras” which at the time, was a kind of leather armor or jacket that served as armor, made out of cuero or rawhide. The Cuera was similar to the European buff coat. Their weapons: the arquebus, scythes, knives and “hocking knive” called “Desjarretadera” (de-hocker) a long lance with a sharp crescent moon shaped blade at the tip that was used to incapacitate wild bulls by cutting the “jarrete” or hocks. This is before roping came into use.
Good stuff here, Nortekman.
@@ManvsHistory Been studying the history of the Mexican vaquero, the Charro, for the last ten years.
As a native Mexican, this video explains a lot of history that I had no knowledge about. It's incredibly enlightening and I would love to see your historical take on Mexican revolutionary men and Soldadera women. Specially Pancho Villa, Emiliano Zapata, or La Adelita.
My grandma watches a lot of Mexican Westerns so that's where most of my knowledge of them derives from.
My grandmother met La Adelta when she was a little girl.
dude i love this channel. i get to learn about the real west, and watch something about one of my favorite things
Left RDO the other day and lost interest, but you made me come back. We've all been waiting for this video, AWESOME!
You should make a historically accurate Irish gangster/mobster from the era.
It amazes me how consistently great this channel is
I wanted to make a mexican character and you don't know how much this helped me! I was scared he would turn out to look like Javier Escuella or some stereotypical mexican peep but this helped me so much to make someone normal and unique looking! (Also yeah those pants have my last name lol) I was also thinking of a suggestion considering how much fancy clothes rockstar added into the game that it would be interesting if you could teach us about fancy and rich people at the time and see if the over the top accesories can be used in some accurate way, would be nice :)
YES FINALLY A NEW VIDEO. I’ve binged all your videos and they’re so relaxing, we need more!
YES been waiting for this one!! Literally counting the days.
I only barely knew about how farmers had their own “vaqueros” to help around,my mom told me about how my grandpa had problems with a vaquero from another ranch next to his almost ending in a gun battle
There’s a new show on the history channel now called Man vs. History
Ay let’s go! He finally did it! I’ve been waiting since I commented this on his gunslinger video!
I was waiting for this one since I’m Mexican and I always dress my character on a Mexican vaquero
I wish we could look exactly like the Vaquero in your Thumbnail!
Yeah, too bad rockstar royally fucked the ponchos and made them look like pizza boxes on your back instead of actual ponchos…
Vaqueros was a topic of one of my history classes back in 6th grade( we won’t go into how long ago that was😂) our history teacher was a Wild West fan and we learned about everything Cowboy .
What got me was the Brazilians used Bolas instead of a traditional lariat. Always impressed the heck out of me.
Thanks again for making these.
How in the hell did these men survive the heat??? Especially the ones with the bearskin chaps!
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Well he does say they were used in the Sierra Nevada mountains in California; even they get cold, and the cold tends to hit you harder if you're used to the hot desert.
There were some limited time clothing called Charro Jacket and Concho Pants that were good. They release them sporadically each year
I literally jumped out my seat when I saw this in my notifications!
I bought These Were The Vaqueros by Arnold Rojas because of this video. Magnificent book.
Glad you got the book, man! It's great!
Wow! This was so cool, amazing video. You gave us everything, clothes, outfits, accessories and even horses. What about your in game scenes, they’re always dope. Thank you so much for all this, it definitely makes playing RDO more enjoyable. Maybe soon we can see a video about the women of the old west; what they used to do and of course how they used to dress depending on social classes or something.
I wonder are you going to make a video about historically accurate tomb raiders/treasure hunters in rdo? Because it will be interesting to see the early years of a very young science called archaeology others during that time also see explorer clubs slowly building up to the well-known organizations that we know them today.
Agreed I can’t wait to see this
The Rowberry pants are the most historically accurate Vaquero pants in my opinion, and the Rowberry shirt is the most historically accurate Native America shirt in view as well.
The very first cowboys were Mexican , because it started in Mexico im pretty sure but thanks as a Mexican I couldn't find any outfits and your knowledge is crazy good on our culture ,thanks man
The first cowboys were from spain
@@glitch8661nope nope
I know you don't usually talk about the potential firearms of the game but I've read about something I think might interest you. The Cass Repeating Belt Gun. It was a repeater style rifle which got its name from the belt of paper cartridges stored in the stock, making the stock very bulky and gun extremely back heavy. It held 26 rounds in it's stock belt and the stock opened up for replacement of the belt. There are sadly only two specimens that remain and they have differences if memory serves it was one having an octagonal barrel, different rifling, and different sights. The gun was invented in 1840s-50s and while it's bulkiness means it is unlikely anyone but it's inventor (the patent was made in the northern states, but on of the specimens was found in Texas) ever journeyed with it. Regardless it is an overlooked but massively overlooked landmark in firearms history as it was likely one of the first true belt fed guns.
Sounds awesome! I always thought that once in a while R* should hold a flea market in game, where you could by old obsolete firearms (and other items) for your own amusement. Stuff that isn't very effective compared to 1898 technology (think old black powder rifles with their reloading time, etc) but is still there for folks who want to collect and use old weapons as they please. This would be a way to incorporate a gun like the Cass.
Man I really wish rockstar would add a "horse trainer" and cattle DLC.
Don't want too much my friend.
I did the same with my character but went more with the Mexican revolution peasant/solider look
Same o got so many Mexican outfits cause I’m proud of my culture
Years later, I'm still watching these videos..!
Appreciate that!
Next:
Historical accuracy of saloon songs/ Typical songs that were played in saloons!
That would be awesome!
Yeah I would love that and maybe he could talk about the most common instruments in the old west.
@@abelhayabusa that would be awesome!
I think that would be too short of a video, and also not for a very wide audience. Perhaps he should've covered it in his "Historical accuracy of Saloons" video
@@SawRunner maybe he could also include most common/rarest instruments and famous musicians back then to make it longer.
The strung sombrero hat is so irritating because the character wears it backwards...SMH. Thank you for this. Best video on this I have seen.
Exactly and I wish there was those big straw sombreros
Nice, now make one showing how to create a historically accurate Mexican bandit!
I appreciate your proper pronunciation of 'chaps'. Even Google pronounce has it incorrect.
Seriously love and appreciate your videos--it's a fine thing when history and videogames come together like this. Eager to see more historical Mexican outfits/history, like outlaw/bandito/fringes of society types. Have a good one.
Growing up in DFW, San Antonio, Albuquerque/Santa fe, and west Texas, I thank you. This is how I made my RDOnline character, now i have a better way to dress my Vaquera.
Happy to hear that!
This man has put me on to so much information I had absolutely no real knowledge about. Thanks big dawg for the time you take to do this!!
You bet, Dutchiee!
Gotta respect the work that you put into verbally distinguishing chaps vs chaps. It takes real dedication to not just lampshade it with a throwaway joke and move on.
Thanks, Alex!
These videos are so cool! Love all the historical information and the outfits!
Hey I’d like to add something on the topic of horses! While all color mustangs were used by vaqueros, the closest to the Kiger would be the Tiger Striped Bay Dun! Lots of the Kigers have the striped zebra markings on their legs and down the back! Also, another horse candidate could be the criollo. Some vaquero-like figures used this breed, including Mexican revolutionary Pancho Villa. He named his horse “Siete Leguas” or “Seven Leagues” in English, because that’s how far she could ride in a day. Your video was awesome and I love vaquero culture. Thanks for the awesome info!
Thanks, Link. I'll need to look into all that. I appreciate it though!
Now all I need to know is how to make a train clerk and a hillbilly
I actually have a Lemoyner outfit which may be close enough given the sort of culture to Lemoyne. I use a dark brown worn flop hat, a red neckerchief, a white everday overshirt, brown cross back suspenders, green worn rolled pants, and black preachers pride boots. Is anything innacurate about that?
I don’t know about you but that sounds pretty good, I’m going to have to try this out, thanks man
@@alexjonathanwhite606 you’re welcome!
For gloves, take a perfect goat hide to Gus for the Mountfleet gloves. They're a little fancy but are fringed.
soy mexicano y la verdad sigues una representación muy fidedigna de los vaqueros, gran trabajo. Saludos
Great content!
I've made an argentinian "Gaucho" a few weeks a go!
Your in-game footage in this one is really spectacular. Stellar editing and music, too.
Thanks for all you do, Man!
Thanks, Whisky! I appreciate that!
thank you so much for this! it’s a shame that rockstar doesn't show love to this game :/
I've literally been waiting for a Mexican one for so long, it's finally here...
been lowkey waiting for this one. good work as always!
Remade this outfit used black chaps,pants,jacket and sombrero a yellow vest and red neckerchief it looks awesome
I love this guy! I used the mountain man video for my character back when it was first posted! I’m still rocking it today
Nice, Landon! That was my first character clothing video. Glad to see you've stuck with me!
I have literally now watched all your episodes you have its kinda bitter sweet but I can say I really enjoyed each and every video you have made . Great job and hope to see new episodes 😀
Thanks, Ragnar! I'm working on a new one now. It's a long'n though, so it's going to take some time to get it all edited. Stay tuned!
@@ManvsHistory will be patiently waiting 😁
Hell yeah, thank you so much! I’ve been waiting for this one for a while now
Just saw this video! My first direct ancestor in CA was a conquistador with de Portola/Serra's expedition, which makes me a Californio. On top of that, my great-great grandfather, Tranzito Rojas, was a gaucho born in Valparaiso, Chile, but moved to central California sometime after the American Civil War. He was a master roper and was able to lasso a quail in mid flight. It would be right to be doubtful of such a story, but I have heard it from several relatives over the years as well as some old-timers who met him when they were children around the turn of the century.
Very cool!
Omg you did it! Gracias por todos and thank you for the history and accurate representation
You bet, buddy!
The Charro jacket in rdo would work perfectly as well
thank you man vs history i have been waiting for this
These how to vids always make me wanna hop back onto red dead online. Not to mention how fun it is to learn all these historically accurate facts.
Finally! I’ve been waiting for this one for so long. Thanks man!
From this video I can see you love what you do my friend. It's good to see a happy man.
Since the blood money update came out, is there a chance for a historical accurate video of the mafia and organized crime any time soon?
Well the Mafia didn't exist back in the 1800's
@@VictorDude98 kind of did. Was mostly by small Italian American crime families in New York. Began in the 1860s, and became powerful in the latter 19th century and the 20th century. Also, wasn’t referred to mafia, more like cosa nostra
@@VictorDude98 yeah they did look up the black hand, that’s what they were called at the time. Why people comment so confidently without actually knowing is beyond me lololol
The best thing about blood money is doing the hardest difficulty of the gem robbery’s to get the hats
Thank you!!! One of the most underrated RDO channels ! Important content !
Have been waitimg for this one. Thank you very much :)
Another great video as always!
The Vaqueros were the ones who taught the Hawaiian people the art of horsemanship and ranching. Their influence gave way to the Paniolos Hawaii's own cowboys. As someone who has interests in the Old West and a little bit of Hawaiian blood myself, this connected history gives me great joy!
Heck yeah! Paniolos owe it all to the vaqueros, many of which settled down in Hawaii after they were brought over to jumpstart cattle operations on the islands. Pretty cool, little known pocket of cowboy culture!
Let’s not forget The south west was México at one time. Oh yea the Rodeo comes from México yes bullriding and and all that stuff yea comes from old Mexico
Great work man
Would love to see a big game hunter outfit, I have been using the mountain man look for hunting but was looking for something that maybe someone like guss would wear, didn't know if they was any sort of historical thing when it came to this, I was interested in this since I have been using the double barreled shotgun to hunt bears and elk with slug rounds, it pretty fun.
The vaquero stories were great. What a bunch of badasses! Thanks!
I'm from México and I love your channel, but must important I really enjoyed and loved this video, thank you so much for sharing this information with all of us.
A man vs history upload on my birthday is the greatest wish I could ask for
Happy Birthday, Xanny!
This was just what I needed!
Love the stuff you put out man, keep up the good work!
Exceptional research as always my friend! Nodded my head through the whole video
Once again your content never cease's to amaze us, thanks friend my father and I learned something new today ;)