Sled Trouble!! Guess Who? 1-16-24 Day 2 of 2 Old Forge, NY
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Always nerve wracking when something happens to a sled far from home. Three weeks ago i was two hours from my truck on salmon river rd a mile from Tug Hill Hook and Ladder when my rear left bogie wheel flew off my 2022 Renegade 900R turbo. (Dealer didn't tighten) Could have been screwed but there was a cabin nearby where four 25 year old kids came out and helped me and my buddy. They eventually pulled a bolt from one of their renegades and gave it to me bc they were heading home. People are great in the country!!!! Never know what can happen on the trail. Ride with buddies, pray for the best. Great video Paisteboy, hope your sled is back! It’s days like that where one considers retiring from riding lol !
Great story Doug! The snowmobiling community is really great like that. Always willing to help each other out when in need. I found out after having my smart shox rebuilt that one on the rear shock wasn't fully tightened from the factory. Lucky nothing happened to it. I guess we need to double check our sleds before we take them out even though a pro worked on them. I got the sled back. Stay tuned for the final diagnosis. Thanks Doug!
we use to ride the tug in the 90s when the 440 LC premix was the sled to have. i cant believe they make sleds without a pull start! i had lots of fun on the tug back in the day. its your turn now
Thanks Barney. We were riding Old Forge in the 90's when we were in our early to mid 20's then took a break to raise some kids. Got back into snowmobiling in 2010. My last 2 sleds did not have pull starts. Didn't have a single issue with the last sled. Still trying to figure out why it did what it did that one time.
Thanks for watching.
And you Skidoo guys laugh at Polaris for still putting a recoil on their sleds. Hahaha, funny now !! lol.....just kidding.
lol. I never laugh at a recoil. I've just been fortunate enough to never need one until now. Thanks for watching Daljo Farms.
i would put the pull start option on that sled !! I never had that happen to mine and i dont want it too
That was my thought too. Thanks for watching.
You guys are so lucky to be riding. We have zero snow in Mn. And new sleds wanting to run. Probs have to get the lawn mower out soon! Keep up the good work!
Thanks. Lol.
I'm loving this video where your chatting in your helmets. Sounds awesome. Like commnding planes or something.
Glad you like it! Thanks for watching.
Was bummed to think it may be Zuke after all his other issues, not good when anyone breaks down but glad you got up and running quickly. We need more snow!!!
Yeah. Sorry I had to do it Mike. lol. I'm glad it started back up and allowed me to finish the days ride. Thanks for watching.
Haven’t been on my old CZcams account in years, but glad to see you still make videos. I used to watch your doodlebug/beast videos with my grandfather he helped me swap my doodlebug
That's cool! Yeah. A couple of years after making the doodle beast videos I got back into snowmobiling and it kind of took over as the theme of my channel. Thanks for tuning in!
Crazy how much snow is there , it must be high elevation, because on a map old forge is more south then Toronto Canada
Yes. Higher elevation. Old Forge is in the Adirondack Mountains.
My 2019 BCX had the same issue with the starter after a couple years. Works fine when it's cold, no starty when it's hot. Installed the pull start and cut a hole through the right panel for quick access.
And also, if you bang the starter with a wrench it will start. Too bad it's so hard to get at.
Thanks for the comment. I'll keep the tips in mind.
My brother’s XRS 800 had same issue a few years back. Happened at the end of trail 10 while we were sitting for a bit. It wound up being his starter solenoid. We pull started it to get it going and then rode the remainder of the day without another problem. Easy fix. You’re in good hands at Smith. They’ll fix it.
Yeah. Thanks Brian. I've seen it before but with a sled this new it's disappointing to say the least. I didn't have a single issue with my Blizzard other than the loose coolant hose in 6 seasons. Hopefully it's just a fluke.
Good job! I thought it was interesting that the other 2 guys didn't attempt to help at all? I would have been over and had the side panel off before you got off the sled! :) Also, if it didn't start unless you wrapped the clutch, I would have strapped the clutch cover on the back.
I think we were all in shock because the sled us so new and the did both make suggestions. You're a take charge kind of guy and that's great. I don't think that they weren't doing anything because they didn't want to help I think they were trying to figure out what could we even do.
Thanks for watching John.
Great video Paiste.. Ya just never know when something’s going to act up on these sleds. Frustrating for sure. I bet Zuke was thinking, Atleast it’s not me this time. LOL Take Care buddy and I looking forward to the follow-up video from this one. I’m curious to hear what the issue was. Relay maybe ?
Thanks buddy. I was shocked to say the least. I hadn't heard of this happening yet.
Yeah, Zuke's sled is running great. If you want to know what happened get in touch with me. I'll fill you in.
Are you back and available to ride if we get snow now?
@@Paisteboy I’m glad Zuke’s sled is running great. It’s gotta be that performance LinQ bag on the back tunnel..😂 Yes sir, I’m home. I just got back yesterday. They’ve been keeping me crazy busy.
Lucky “for me” the snow has been scarce or it would be hard to say yes to working 😂 Hence my sled still being apart in the garage. I’ll have to get ahold of you and get the low down on your sled.
Sounds good buddy.
It’s amazing how much we spend on these sleds and doo can’t just include the recoil. Great video!
I totally agree! Thanks Jamie!
Same happened to my wifes 17 Tnt 900ace. Guy showed me how to start it with a screwdriver by crossing contact points.I always carry a slim 4 in +screwdriver, replaced solenoid good to go
Unfortunately I was told that you can't get to the solenoid on my sled without removing the clutch cover. I may have to get a little more familiar with the engine area of my sled. Thanks for sharing Jason.
All sleds should have a pull start! That’s why I like the shot and the pull start!!👍
Yeah. That shot sounds like a great idea now. I'd rather have to pull the sled over once in the morning and have the ability to do it if the starter fails then be stuck on the trail Thanks for watching MrSnowman.
I thought it was going to be poor Zuke with troubles because he’s had some hard luck with sleds. But for sure a pull cord installed I got one on my 17 I don’t use it often but it’s there if I need it. Well brother we’re in the middle of a snowmageddon here in Cape Breton. We got about 2 feet and another 2 to 3 feet coming. You can’t see now but soon as it breaks I’ll be out. Great video brother👍👍❄️❄️🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Yeah. I figured most will. sorry I had to. Nice! enjoy the riding once it starts! Thanks for watching Tboy.
Decided to go to Ft Kent maine on the 17th staying at the northern door inn. I'll let you know how it was.
Awesome!! Have fun. Thanks.
you guys are fortunate to have so much snow!
We were. It's starting to melt.
Thanks for watching.
@@Paisteboy we will make up for our melting snow with a trip to cochrane.
Sounds great!
I don’t know why Ski Doo doesn’t have a pull start as a backup on the sleds with electric start. Glad you guys got a ride in. Tell Steve hello. 👍
I believe the reason is that ski-doo wants to pass the cost on to the buyer and it's one less thing they have to install and warrantee possibly as well. Will do and thanks for watching Mike.
Take those tools off the clutch cover!! If they fall off, it gets really expensive.
Thanks for your concern and for watching.
I have a 2022 backcountry with the same problem for over a year. It’s been to the dealership 3 times now. They changed out the solenoid and it is currently back at the dealer as the problem persists. If you let it sit for a few minutes it will usually start.
That doesn't sound encouraging. I hope that's not what I have to look forward to.
Thanks for the comment and for watching.
That's crazy on a new sled no pull cord
The haven't been putting pull starts for many years. My 2016 Ski-doo Blizzard didn't have one either. Only sleds that come with a pull start are mountain sleds without electric start or some sleds equipt with SHOT starter which has no battery and requires you to pull start the sled for the first time of the day and then stores energy from that first start to then push button start the rest of the day. Apparently on my model sled the 7.8 color display fuse box is in the way of a pull cord but I've heard of people relocating that fuse box. I may do that.
Thanks for watching.
K@Paisteboy ok I am looking for a new skidoo my 08 has both mxzx
Nice.
Hey Buddy....Thanks for sharing your trips with us. We have no snow in the upper midwest and haven't most of the winter. The problem you are having is the same one I had with my Renegade 850. The gear mechanism that the starter goes to gets gummed up with dirt and belt dust. Once a year you have to tear it apart and behind where they will install the pull starter you have to spray it with silicone lubricant. It's a real P.I.T.A. but its what you'll have to do. Also, the pull starter is almost all plastic, and after having to use it for this exact problem, i wore out the pull start. It's basically there only for emergencies. Good luck!
Thanks for the great information Todd! Do you know if there is a video about that on CZcams? I am definitely going to look into that. Thanks for watching!
@@Paisteboy I haven’t seen one, if I find one I will let you know. One thing I found is when that happens, lean the sled to the right on as far as you can and for some reason it will start.
OK. Great! I'll keep that in mind but hopefully it doesn't happen again! Thanks!
My cats all have recoils except the 4 stroke. I’ve had to pull them all at times, usually from a dead or weak battery. We carry a small jump pack now in case the 4 stroke won’t start but the recoil is a must IMO
Still great you got it going and were able to get a good ride in. Hopefully winter returns. 😅
I meticulously take care of my battery but I never thought it would do this.
Thanks for watching.
@@Paisteboy all part of the fun ya never know what’s going to happen. Always enjoy your content and hard work you put in to capturing and editing all these videos.
You doing main again this year?
Thank you. At this point it's not looking good for a trip to Maine but you never know.
I had the same problem on my electric start Ariens snowblower. Same clicking. Hit starter with rubber mallet and she fired.
Yeah. That's a little easier to get at than on a ski-doo unfortunately. You can't even see the relay or the starter without removing the clutch cover which makes it pointless. Thanks for watching FalvyPollard.
@@Paisteboy no worries, you’ll be back on snow in no time
Thanks for the videos!
Yup! You got it!
Skidoo…. No recoil start????? WTF? And why is that clutch guard so complicated!? They must include a tow rope as part of the standard tool kit then? Right? ;). Glad to see you got it back running. That’s always a horrible feeling…
All great questions Rob. It totally defeats the purpose of starting it by the clutch. Thanks for watching.
My 2023 renegade xrs with smart shocks does the same thing, Smith marine couldn’t fix it! I told them to put a recoil start on, and they said they can’t on my model! If they fix yours let me know the fix!
That sucks. I guess it is a bad design. See the next video for the conclusion. Thanks for watching.
Glad everything went well. Nothing worse than out 15 20 miles and broke down. When you pick up you sled tell Doug stew dog said hi.👍. He will remember me .
Thanks Stew. I'll tell him next time I'm there. Thanks for watching.
Thank God ski doo doesn't think it's a good idea to have a recoil. Lol!
I know Right? At this point I would rather have SHOT since that has to come with a recoil. Thanks for watching Jim.
This is exactly why I spent 300 bucks and put the auxiliary\OEM rip cord on my 2015 backcountry. Pretty cheap insurance when you’re in the middle of the woods, I’ve used it a few times and it’s been worth every cent. It’s unfortunate that skidoo has deleted this from the factory. Cheers guys!
Yeah. Stay tuned for the resolution on this issue in the next video.
Hey paisteboy did they put the recoil on if so can you shoot me a pic of where they relocated the relay for the gauge because when I went to do my sled the relay was right where u mount the recoil and I didn’t want to mess with it Tia
I want to save the answer for the diagnosis video since I don't have all of the answers right now. Thanks for watching.
Ski doo's are known for starter relay problems.
This is the very first time any of my ski-doos have given me this problem. Especially since it's so new.
@@Paisteboy It's a known issue on the ski doo forum. Many people carry a spare with them.
Really? Ok. First time I heard about carrying a relay with you but it makes sense. I may do that incase it happens again.
Curious what the bill would be for a pull start question mark wouldn't want to have to deal with that. Bad enough my fuel gauge always says full
I was quoted about 300 installed for a recoil / pullstart.
This is why you should install a pull start recoil right when u bought the sled for that reason lol.
I agree. This will all get explained in the next ride video.
Thanks for watching Andrew.
@@Paisteboy always loved your channel since day one from 700 zx days lol! Love the content!
Thank you Andrew!! I really appreciate you watching all of these years!!
Forgot to add oil again ? ☃️👍👍
No need. lol
How do you like the 360? Do you try mounting it in different spots?
I really like the 360 camera! I do have the selfie stick that I can mount on the rear bumper, but I haven't tried mounting it anywhere else yet. Maybe next season. Thanks for watching Dave.
Taking a shit while doing jumping jacks!!! 😂😂😂 God punished you for that remark. Honestly for what that sled costs it should have a backup pull start.
lol. For sure though. I spent a lot of money on this sled and a recoil is not included. They haven't been including the recoil for quite a few years now. I remember a few years back where it was so cold that three 2016 800's would not turn over in the morning after an overnight trip to Old Forge. We needed to warn up the engine area a bit just to get them started. I guy in the cabin next door had a heater. Thanks for watching Charles.
I have a 1997 XLT 600 Polaris and it has never ever caused me any trouble I paid $500 for it I will never ver buy a new snow mobile just don’t need to impress anyone that badly rather spend money on something of value
I'm not trying to impress anyone I just don't want to ride a sled that rides like a lumber truck. I want a sled that rides like a Cadillac. How many miles do you have on that 500 dollar sled? I guessing very few.
How are you liking your oxygen helmet? I have been debating between the mission or the oxygen.
Thanks
I love it! The helmet itself with the E-LINQ is awesome! I haven't had any issues with the helmet malfunctioning at all. No failures of cords or screens. I just chatted with Rich Outdoors earlier today and he has a mission helmet but it looks like he is going to get an Oxygen helmet now. His only complaint with the mission is that it is too loud. The Oxygen is very quiet inside. I would get the E-LINQ if you ride a ski-doo as it is very convenient and eliminates the plugging and unplugging of the helmet cord. Hope that helps.
@@Paisteboy Thanks so much for your input I really appreciate it. I also installed a pull start on my sled for those just in case moments. All the best
You're welcome Alek. Thanks for the well wishes.
They are the BEST!!!
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If that ever happened again, get 2 of you and pick up the front of the sled 6-12" off the ground and let it drop. Worked for me with my Yammi.
Thanks drbobvs! I'll keep that in mind if it ever happens again.
Awesome pull off to the side and do your buisness lol😂😂 😂
Always! Lol.
What 360 Camera model is that?
X3
@@Paisteboy Thanks - I assume it can be plugged into a sled USB power port so it will never die via the cold battery issue? (Like Gopro's have) Any advice in regards to memory card size - how many hours of video you can record per day that fits on a 1TB or 2TB card? As its 5.7k
Yes. I have 4 battery and they work perfectly for about 80 minutes each with no problems in the cold but I now plug it into the sled.
I have a 400 GB card and a 1T card. The 1T will record almost 14 hours. Not sure if you can go bigger than that and yes 5.7k.
I truly hate to be another guy that asks why the hell would you want a sled without a pull start as at least a backup to your electric start? That makes no sense. Thanks for video tho.
It's an extra charge but you'll see the real reason in the next video.
Bendix IMO
Thanks for the tip Paulie. I'll keep it in mind.
Is that an 850? Tip it on its right side when that happens. Bad design.
Yes. It's an 850. Thanks. I'll keep that in mind if it happens again. Thanks for watching.
@@Paisteboy Same thing happened to my friend's 2018 Blizzard. A little research indicated that it is a common problem (That BRP has apparently not fixed). On the trail, I bounced the machine a couple of times and it started. He was well aware that the belt guard was not going back on if we had to use the emergency rope. Back to the truck over 100 miles without shutting it off. Our trip was cut short. Tipping on the right side came up on internet searches at the hotel. He put the pull cord option as you indicated you were going to do.
Thanks for the tips. 👍
Stop being lazy with the starter and just pull start it. lol!
Lol. I wish I could.
Cant have anything to do with the 7 million other electrical things you got hooked to it that overloads the system????/
It could, but when this happened I only had 1 thing connected to the sled. I also had only 1 device connected to my Blizzard with zero issues ever.
Typical skidoo
I wasn't a happy ski-doo owner at that moment. What do you ride Chaddy?