We got up to Tug Hill this past week and stayed in Redfield. Couldn't ride from the cabin so we trailered to the Hook and Ladder and rode from there. It was getting thin all week but we had a blast. This is going to be an every year thing as long as we can do it. Great people and great food. Hopefully next year we have more snow and can ride all over the trail system. Also my father just bought a 24 MXZ 850 non turbo and took it up there for the first ride. We have had Cats for years but I really liked the ride and the power. I told him you guys love your Doo's! Great vid as always
Cool. If we get more snow I will most likely be heading to tug Hill. I hope things chill back down soon and we get some fresh snow to ride on or this season is all but over. I bet you Dad likes the new Doo. They ride and handle so good. Thanks for watching mino.
PB, I thought it was great that you included this failure in your video. It goes to show even new machines can have mechanical or electrical issues. What's not right is the dealer charging you for not finding the problem sad. As far as the recoil can't the fuses be relocated within wire harness length to accommodate the recoil? MM
I agree and was thinking the same thing about the fuses. I trust Smith Marine but there has to be a way to install a recoil on my sled. Thanks for watching Mark.
BS they charged you for diagnosing when you had a video. It’s not like you were making it up. If it happens again, demand they start swapping parts, starting with ECU.
I have installed a few on that sled you just bolt the fuse block and zip tie it out of the way . The changed the coolant bottle on the new ones so it's not a problem anymore
I enjoy these vids! You guys are a comedy act at times. It's great to see you all get along so well. Very cool. I give you a lot of credit for putting up with all the video gear hook-ups and editing that goes into this! I won't ever do all that. But I'm glad you do. Well done! You have a good crew to ride with. I live and ride in the upstate area you guys trailer to. I thought i could do this video gig; bought all the gear and it lives in a drawer unused for years. (all go pro) So my thanks once again .
Thanks andy! I can really appreciate that. You can relate to what goes into making these videos and know that it can make the ride a hassle at times and then you still have to edit afterwards. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Lucky we never got to go in michigan. I've never seen a year like this here. Great video jealous👍. I would have showed them the video of it not working
They believed me. It's just that their hands are tied when the sled doesn't do what you say it was doing. I can still show them the video sometime. Thanks for watching Alan.
Paiste, my 23 rene 850 with smart shox does this frequently. Its the solenoid- tap it with a handle end of a screw driver while pressing the start button- she’ll start. Just like if ones going bad on a older car 👍🏻
Thanks. That's a good tip but the guy at the shop told me that the solenoid wasn't visible on my sled without removing the clutch cover. I'll have to take a closer look. Thanks for watching.
As I told you in your video,my wife's tnt had a solenoid failure,dropped it for diagnosis, guy went thru everything and all worked perfectly of course.Went to pick it up ,no start.Threw a solenoid on it,issue resolved. I'd personally put a new one on.
That's crap smith charged you labor. You bought it there should have been a warranty fix if any thing was found. They didn't find any thing so they charge you for a half hour of a guy starting and stopping your sled. I can see I wouldn't buy sleds from there. Service is all that matters.
My 2015 1200, did this to me the other week, i rode it Friday started it Saturday morning, shut it off it wouldn't start, drug it in the trailer and the next day it fired right up. Alot of the forums said to warm up the relays.🤷🏻♂️
if you can jump power from yer batt to your starter and it cranks then you have a faulty relay and or loose/dirty connections,i had my sled die while climbing a significant hill,pulled all fuses with no visible corrosion finally scrub them with my ball hair and wamo successes,best of luck,cool vid
I guess from what I'm hearing from multiple people is that i can be the relay but in most cases it's the starter bendix getting gummed up with belt and brake dust. Thanks for the tips and thanks for watching.
I’m not a snowmobiler, but I did buy 2 jetskis from Smith Marine. My experience w them has always been top notch. They’ve done same day repairs for me twice. Great bunch of guys and gals there.
I agree 100%. They have always treated me great and I don't blame them at all for anything. They had to charge me the half hour labor since it couldn't be charged as warrantee without a defective part found. Thanks for watching.
@@Paisteboy love your videos. I have a camp up there and have wanted to give snowmobiling a try. That’s how I found your channel a few years ago. Hopefully I’ll be able to get up there for a week in the winter to see what it’s all about. Wish there was more snow this winter for all you guys. Keep the videos coming, love watching them!
OK so we have ran into this problem on mountain sleds, and it turns out that you have moisture more than likely and your button that you push we've had it where we've had to take them off and there is been some rust and stuff in there from getting moisture in over the years, so if it was me, I would be taking that apart and just looking inside to make sure because I think that's your problem ours it wasn't that they wouldn't start. They wouldn't go in and out of reverse which is virtually the same thing, same kind of button.
Thanks for the info. I'm hearing all kinds of scenarios for this issue and I'm taking them all in consideration. I haven't had an issue since I picked up my sled. Fingers crossed it doesn't happen again. I've ridden it multiple times since the incident without issue. Thanks for watching.
Shame the problem couldn’t be diagnosed. Every time you try to start your sled for the rest of the season is going to feel like rolling the dice. Seems that most of my electrical problems almost always result in a grounding issue. Good luck. We lost what little snow we had in Michigan a couple weeks ago.
My 2017 has been doing the exact thing. You can get the clutch cover on while running. Not easy but have done it. I have a theory there is corrosion on the starter. If mine does it again, I am pulling the plugs and spinning the starter on the battery to clean the brushes and armature.
I had the exact same problem with my 2021 Renegade X 600R. Since my dealer could not duplicate the problem at their shop, Ski-Doo would not reimburse them for the warrant work. The problem would only occur when the sled had been ridden and was warm. The problem could not duplicated by idling the sled for up to 20 minutes. I eventually figured out that if the sled was allowed to cold down, it would start every time. For the entire 2022 riding season once the sled was started in the morning, it would not be turned off unless it could sit for a half hour before needing to be restarted. I eventually traded it in on a 2023 Blizzard.
Also the problem that’s happening is your pinion and spring on the starter is getting dirty and starting to stick. When u spun the clutch it broke the pinion free. The starter on the 850’s are internal. One way to fix this is to clean the starter by opening the flywheel cover and blast it with break clean. This makes even more sense to instal your recoil after this procedure because you’ll already be halfway done.
We had the same sled a 22 850 XRS with smart shocks in the shop at Maddie’s this week with the same issue you had happen with your sled we couldn’t get the issue of the no start to happen, but BRP(Skidoo) warrantied a starter and a starter relay
If it happens again jump out the wires from the battery to the starter wire at the solenoid. If the starter turns over your solenoid isn't making connection. It's a place to start....It was 60 here in NE Ohio yesterday!!
Unfortunately the battery is back behind the seat now but the solenoid is not visible without removing the clutch cover. I heard of a trick that I will try if it happens again and if it works it will be in a video. Same weather here right now too. Not much better in Old Forge either. Thanks for watching.
Yeah. That's what I would have to doo. Good thing I have bags to keep from scratching up the tunnel. I carry ratchet straps with me for emergencies and had to tow Zuke with them a couple of times. lol. Thanks for watching Mattie.
Hey Bud....Hopefully you won't have any more starter problems. I had this happen more times than I care to admit on my Renegade 850. You will have to start it by the clutch and you'll have to work the cover over the spinning clutch. I've done it so many times it's no big deal. Last thing, as we spoke about before, you can do an annual maintenance by spraying down the starter gearing under the plastic cover where the pull start would be. I use silicone spray and you'll see the black grime coming off of it.
Yeah. This was a couple of weeks ago now. It was 60 here yesterday as well and it's raining today. Old Forge is a little better but the trails can't be good today from what I heard yesterday. It's just one of those season unless you're closer to Alaska. Thanks for watching Larry.
Apparently, some have added recoil by ziptying/moving the fuse box out of the way or just needing to open panel to access the rope handle. Possibly a relay in the fuse box was stuck and needed warming up a bit.
I'll have to look into that recoil addition a bit closer. I've heard that it needs to cool down to work again but nit sure if it's the starter or the solenoid. Thanks Mike.
Both are summit 850s One is a SP…other a edge… Gen 4 and gen 5 Gen 4 is the same as your sled… I’m sure u can install factory pull start The only difference could be your muffler ? @@Paisteboy
Hey Paisteboy, how about a bit more commentary while you are riding? You know, just about trail conditions, weather conditions, how the sled is running, landmarks you are passing, interesting anecdotes, why Gary always stands on his sled, etc. etc. Only hearing the drone of the engine gets a little old sometimes. I'd rather hear your melodic voice! Just sayin'. 😊
I really would like to do that and have in the past. I will try again in future. The reason I cut back on the ride vlogging is because it foggs up the helmet when I talk too much. The other thing is that I am using so little of the footage that I record but I do try to use the parts that I talk in. Thanks for the feedback lamkozy.
Hey buddy next time you are in Inlet ny can you get a good shot of the ***ole barn*** restaurant Haven't been up there since 1995 curious how it changed around there?????
That’s not true at all, it’s totally possible to put a pull start on that machine. I did it on my 22 backcountry with the premium cluster. The fuse box they’re referring too is the one for the gauge. U just relocate it, thats hilarious they said u can’t put a pull start on it
My buddy had the same problem with his 22 xrs his was intermittent to and ended up being a bad starter. He did put a recoil on it but needs to open the side panel to use it (no big deal)
Yes, also if it does in again try tipping the sled on its side and try starting it. His dealer told him that trick and it worked for the week we were away
Good to know that someone else has put a recoil on my same sled. I have heard of that truck and will try it if it happens again. Do you start it while it's tipped or after you put it back down? Thanks Scotty.
Hey, heard you say you can’t put a pull start on the 22 renegade xrs 850… I have that exact sled and my dealer added one for me. Just a heads up you definitely can! Nice video 👍
Thanks Nick. I just my dealer didn't want to relocate the fuse box that is for the 7.8 inch display. You weren't supposed to be able to add scratchers to my sled because of the smart shox but they installed them.
@@Paisteboy no problem! It’s a must have in my opinion. I’ve had to manually spin the clutch before with the rope and wedge piece skidoo gives you and it’s horrible. Although you can get the cover back on while it’s spinning it isn’t fun. How many miles do you have on yours? I have mixed emotions about my smart shox not much different then any of my prior xrs’s.
I have about 2900 miles on mine now. When I first had the smart shox module installed on my sled the smart shox were absolutely amazing! Best ride ever hands down but then the shocks needed a rebuild which I did before this season. They just didn't feel the same again. They were much better in the beginning of this season when they were freshly rebuilt but only 500 miles later and I found myself running in sport mode because comfort mode was to soft and bouncy. Now it could have been this seasons absolutely horrible conditions and it was like riding on concrete sometime but My brother Zuke was saying how good everything felt on his new to him Blizzard. That could also be just because the blizzard rides so much better than any of his other sleds. I was thinking I may not get them next time unless I notice a great improvement on decent trails next season. They also need to change the smart shox switch to a button that just cycles through the three modes because it is impossible to change into sport mode will riding. What are your thoughts?
Certainly beyond frustrating that BRP first of all doesn't include a normal recoil starter with sled, but then designs the newer sled so that emergency recoil starter cannot even be installed. I say "emergency" because when my friend installed it on his 2018 Blizzard 850, the pull handle was actually stowed under/behind a panel. All this while knowing full well there has been issues with the electric starters for years. It gets old and frustrating quickly. The seasons keep getting shorter, and the cost goes up. Then when there is an opportunity to ride, there are neeedless time and money wasting break downs and failures. How are you and your group doing with clutch rollers?
I agree. Beyond poor design for a recoil. As far as secondary rollers go, Gary and Shag have both had failures on previous sleds but I don't think they have replaced the rollers on their current sleds. If one of them did it would be Gary since he bought an extra set of rollers at the time. If you check out my pre-season video that I made this season I had the secondary rollers replaced as a precautionary measure. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
If your sled is still under factory warranty shouldn’t have had to pay labor. Aftermarket extended warranty I can understand. BS they didn’t find anything wrong. It acted up wouldn’t start. Something is failing there are no “flukes” in my opinion. To give the sled back and say they couldn’t find anything wrong is poor customer service.
Exactly! Most mechanics today are clueless when it comes to troubleshooting electrical issues. I get the crap the dealers can't fix all the time. Worked 40-years on aircraft electrical systems, sleds are childs play! If all checked out, with solenoids a known issue it should have been replaced under warranty at no cost to the customer!
Yeah. I was surprised. I may have to get a second opinion on the recoil. After all, ski-doo said you couldn't put scratchers on my sled because of the smart shox but Smith Marine was still able to do it. Thanks for watching Jeff.
I get it but at the same time, I would have never used it once on my 2016 Ski-Doo Blizzard that I had for 6 seasons. It's so rarely needed that they omitted them from a stock sled. I can see it from both sides but wish I had one right about now. lol. Thanks for watching.
Was wondering what was the problem with your sled. No harm no foul. My channel is no edit and just Milwaukee tool vidz. Not really a CZcamsr so I have no room to speak.
We got up to Tug Hill this past week and stayed in Redfield. Couldn't ride from the cabin so we trailered to the Hook and Ladder and rode from there. It was getting thin all week but we had a blast. This is going to be an every year thing as long as we can do it. Great people and great food. Hopefully next year we have more snow and can ride all over the trail system. Also my father just bought a 24 MXZ 850 non turbo and took it up there for the first ride. We have had Cats for years but I really liked the ride and the power. I told him you guys love your Doo's! Great vid as always
Cool. If we get more snow I will most likely be heading to tug Hill. I hope things chill back down soon and we get some fresh snow to ride on or this season is all but over. I bet you Dad likes the new Doo. They ride and handle so good. Thanks for watching mino.
PB, I thought it was great that you included this failure in your video. It goes to show even new machines can have mechanical or electrical issues. What's not right is the dealer charging you for not finding the problem sad. As far as the recoil can't the fuses be relocated within wire harness length to accommodate the recoil? MM
I agree and was thinking the same thing about the fuses. I trust Smith Marine but there has to be a way to install a recoil on my sled. Thanks for watching Mark.
BS they charged you for diagnosing when you had a video. It’s not like you were making it up. If it happens again, demand they start swapping parts, starting with ECU.
I hear ya. I will if it happens again.
I have installed a few on that sled you just bolt the fuse block and zip tie it out of the way .
The changed the coolant bottle on the new ones so it's not a problem anymore
Good to know. Thanks Todd. I'll keep it in mind if I end up adding the recoil.
I enjoy these vids! You guys are a comedy act at times. It's great to see you all get along so well. Very cool. I give you a lot of credit for putting up with all the video gear hook-ups and editing that goes into this! I won't ever do all that. But I'm glad you do. Well done! You have a good crew to ride with. I live and ride in the upstate area you guys trailer to. I thought i could do this video gig; bought all the gear and it lives in a drawer unused for years. (all go pro) So my thanks once again .
Thanks andy! I can really appreciate that. You can relate to what goes into making these videos and know that it can make the ride a hassle at times and then you still have to edit afterwards. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Just got back from lac saint Jean Canada 🇨🇦
1100 miles in 4 days braaaaaaapppp!!!!
That's awesome!! Sounds like you had a great time!
Lucky we never got to go in michigan. I've never seen a year like this here. Great video jealous👍. I would have showed them the video of it not working
They believed me. It's just that their hands are tied when the sled doesn't do what you say it was doing. I can still show them the video sometime. Thanks for watching Alan.
Paiste, my 23 rene 850 with smart shox does this frequently. Its the solenoid- tap it with a handle end of a screw driver while pressing the start button- she’ll start. Just like if ones going bad on a older car 👍🏻
Thanks. That's a good tip but the guy at the shop told me that the solenoid wasn't visible on my sled without removing the clutch cover. I'll have to take a closer look. Thanks for watching.
@@Paisteboy out riding today and mine did it again. Just clicks. You dont have to remove the clutch cover. Open the side panel and you’ll see it
-Doug
Ok. I'll take a look. Thanks.
As I told you in your video,my wife's tnt had a solenoid failure,dropped it for diagnosis, guy went thru everything and all worked perfectly of course.Went to pick it up ,no start.Threw a solenoid on it,issue resolved. I'd personally put a new one on.
Ok. I appreciate you sharing that. I just may do that. Thanks Jason.
That's crap smith charged you labor. You bought it there should have been a warranty fix if any thing was found. They didn't find any thing so they charge you for a half hour of a guy starting and stopping your sled. I can see I wouldn't buy sleds from there. Service is all that matters.
I really can't blame them but I think they could have let this one go since it's a known issue.
My 2015 1200, did this to me the other week, i rode it Friday started it Saturday morning, shut it off it wouldn't start, drug it in the trailer and the next day it fired right up. Alot of the forums said to warm up the relays.🤷🏻♂️
Yeah. I've heard a few different reasons and fixes but not warming up the relay.
Thanks for sharing and for watching.
if you can jump power from yer batt to your starter and it cranks then you have a faulty relay and or loose/dirty connections,i had my sled die while climbing a significant hill,pulled all fuses with no visible corrosion finally scrub them with my ball hair and wamo successes,best of luck,cool vid
I guess from what I'm hearing from multiple people is that i can be the relay but in most cases it's the starter bendix getting gummed up with belt and brake dust. Thanks for the tips and thanks for watching.
I’m not a snowmobiler, but I did buy 2 jetskis from Smith Marine. My experience w them has always been top notch. They’ve done same day repairs for me twice. Great bunch of guys and gals there.
I agree 100%. They have always treated me great and I don't blame them at all for anything. They had to charge me the half hour labor since it couldn't be charged as warrantee without a defective part found.
Thanks for watching.
@@Paisteboy love your videos. I have a camp up there and have wanted to give snowmobiling a try. That’s how I found your channel a few years ago. Hopefully I’ll be able to get up there for a week in the winter to see what it’s all about. Wish there was more snow this winter for all you guys. Keep the videos coming, love watching them!
Thanks. I appreciate that. Give it a try some time and see what yiu think.
Hopefully the weather changes soon so we can start riding again.
OK so we have ran into this problem on mountain sleds, and it turns out that you have moisture more than likely and your button that you push we've had it where we've had to take them off and there is been some rust and stuff in there from getting moisture in over the years, so if it was me, I would be taking that apart and just looking inside to make sure because I think that's your problem ours it wasn't that they wouldn't start. They wouldn't go in and out of reverse which is virtually the same thing, same kind of button.
Thanks for the info. I'm hearing all kinds of scenarios for this issue and I'm taking them all in consideration. I haven't had an issue since I picked up my sled. Fingers crossed it doesn't happen again. I've ridden it multiple times since the incident without issue. Thanks for watching.
Shame the problem couldn’t be diagnosed. Every time you try to start your sled for the rest of the season is going to feel like rolling the dice. Seems that most of my electrical problems almost always result in a grounding issue. Good luck. We lost what little snow we had in Michigan a couple weeks ago.
I agree! It hadn't happened since but if it does I don't have a backup recoil.
My 2017 has been doing the exact thing. You can get the clutch cover on while running. Not easy but have done it. I have a theory there is corrosion on the starter. If mine does it again, I am pulling the plugs and spinning the starter on the battery to clean the brushes and armature.
Could be. I also heard a theory that it a build up if belt and brake dust on the starter components.
I had the exact same problem with my 2021 Renegade X 600R. Since my dealer could not duplicate the problem at their shop, Ski-Doo would not reimburse them for the warrant work. The problem would only occur when the sled had been ridden and was warm. The problem could not duplicated by idling the sled for up to 20 minutes. I eventually figured out that if the sled was allowed to cold down, it would start every time. For the entire 2022 riding season once the sled was started in the morning, it would not be turned off unless it could sit for a half hour before needing to be restarted. I eventually traded it in on a 2023 Blizzard.
Thanks for the info David. You think that Ski-Doo would be aware of this and have a fix for by now. Nice choice for a new sled too.
Also the problem that’s happening is your pinion and spring on the starter is getting dirty and starting to stick. When u spun the clutch it broke the pinion free. The starter on the 850’s are internal. One way to fix this is to clean the starter by opening the flywheel cover and blast it with break clean. This makes even more sense to instal your recoil after this procedure because you’ll already be halfway done.
Thanks for the tips and insight into this issue. I greatly appreciate the explanation Corey.
We had the same sled a 22 850 XRS with smart shocks in the shop at Maddie’s this week with the same issue you had happen with your sled we couldn’t get the issue of the no start to happen, but BRP(Skidoo) warrantied a starter and a starter relay
Thanks for sharing that with me. I will press the issue much harder if it happens again. Thanks for watching Ethan.
If it happens again jump out the wires from the battery to the starter wire at the solenoid. If the starter turns over your solenoid isn't making connection. It's a place to start....It was 60 here in NE Ohio yesterday!!
Unfortunately the battery is back behind the seat now but the solenoid is not visible without removing the clutch cover. I heard of a trick that I will try if it happens again and if it works it will be in a video. Same weather here right now too. Not much better in Old Forge either. Thanks for watching.
Good stuff PB……..We just strap the clutch cover to the back rack for the day - till you get a proper fix
Yeah. That's what I would have to doo. Good thing I have bags to keep from scratching up the tunnel. I carry ratchet straps with me for emergencies and had to tow Zuke with them a couple of times. lol. Thanks for watching Mattie.
Hey Bud....Hopefully you won't have any more starter problems. I had this happen more times than I care to admit on my Renegade 850. You will have to start it by the clutch and you'll have to work the cover over the spinning clutch. I've done it so many times it's no big deal. Last thing, as we spoke about before, you can do an annual maintenance by spraying down the starter gearing under the plastic cover where the pull start would be. I use silicone spray and you'll see the black grime coming off of it.
That stinks. Thanks Todd. I'll keep that in mind.
I am so jealous..we just hit almost 60 yesterday. We only had rideable snow a couple of weekends in northern mi.😢
Yeah. This was a couple of weeks ago now. It was 60 here yesterday as well and it's raining today. Old Forge is a little better but the trails can't be good today from what I heard yesterday. It's just one of those season unless you're closer to Alaska. Thanks for watching Larry.
I didn’t think Zoke worried about oil ? lol ☃️👍👍
Not at all. lol. I think he likes his new sled too much to forget about oil these days. He's matured. lol. 😂
Apparently, some have added recoil by ziptying/moving the fuse box out of the way or just needing to open panel to access the rope handle. Possibly a relay in the fuse box was stuck and needed warming up a bit.
I'll have to look into that recoil addition a bit closer.
I've heard that it needs to cool down to work again but nit sure if it's the starter or the solenoid.
Thanks Mike.
Love you paiste
Thanks man!
I’ve had pull start cords installed in both my 850s….gen 4 and gen 5
Both dealer installed Both 850 summits with factory electric start
What model are your Gen4 850's?
Both are summit 850s
One is a SP…other a edge…
Gen 4 and gen 5
Gen 4 is the same as your sled…
I’m sure u can install factory pull start
The only difference could be your muffler ? @@Paisteboy
Also …my starter went out on my 17 850…luckily it was still under warranty @@Paisteboy
Yeah. Is it because it's a Renegade? Not sure. I'm going to have to look into that recoil / fuse box issue a little more.
Hey Paisteboy, how about a bit more commentary while you are riding? You know, just about trail conditions, weather conditions, how the sled is running, landmarks you are passing, interesting anecdotes, why Gary always stands on his sled, etc. etc. Only hearing the drone of the engine gets a little old sometimes. I'd rather hear your melodic voice! Just sayin'. 😊
I really would like to do that and have in the past. I will try again in future. The reason I cut back on the ride vlogging is because it foggs up the helmet when I talk too much. The other thing is that I am using so little of the footage that I record but I do try to use the parts that I talk in.
Thanks for the feedback lamkozy.
I got a pull cord my 2022 xrs with smart shocks.
That's wild that your dealer didn't install one..
Is yours a Renegade?
No.mxz ..my friend has same sled like yours has pull cord
.really doesn't matter same sleds track size is the difference..
Yeah. I'm going to have to look into that recoil / fuse box issue a little more. Seems like it should work. Thanks for the reply.
Hey buddy next time you are in
Inlet ny can you get a good shot of the ***ole barn*** restaurant
Haven't been up there since 1995 curious how it changed around there?????
I'll try to remember. We ate there once last season.
@Paisteboy thanks dude
I heard that they sold it but hoping the new owners keep it the same way
I'll see if the guys want to eat there next time we're out that way. It was still nice and rustic when we were there last season.
That’s not true at all, it’s totally possible to put a pull start on that machine. I did it on my 22 backcountry with the premium cluster. The fuse box they’re referring too is the one for the gauge. U just relocate it, thats hilarious they said u can’t put a pull start on it
Good to know. Thanks Corey. I'll be looking into that.
I would have thought they would be willing to relocate the fuse box.
My buddy had the same problem with his 22 xrs his was intermittent to and ended up being a bad starter. He did put a recoil on it but needs to open the side panel to use it (no big deal)
Good to know. Is his a Renegade?
Yes, also if it does in again try tipping the sled on its side and try starting it. His dealer told him that trick and it worked for the week we were away
Good to know that someone else has put a recoil on my same sled.
I have heard of that truck and will try it if it happens again.
Do you start it while it's tipped or after you put it back down?
Thanks Scotty.
What brand of 360 camera are you running?
Insta360
What communicator are you using?
Chatterbox x2 slim-p.
08 skidoo my cluster is gone and every couple yrs I need to replace my then warmer starter cluster the front pops off
That stinks. You must have had that sled for a long time.
@@Paisteboy brand new
Cool!
Hey, heard you say you can’t put a pull start on the 22 renegade xrs 850… I have that exact sled and my dealer added one for me. Just a heads up you definitely can! Nice video 👍
Thanks Nick. I just my dealer didn't want to relocate the fuse box that is for the 7.8 inch display.
You weren't supposed to be able to add scratchers to my sled because of the smart shox but they installed them.
@@Paisteboy no problem! It’s a must have in my opinion. I’ve had to manually spin the clutch before with the rope and wedge piece skidoo gives you and it’s horrible. Although you can get the cover back on while it’s spinning it isn’t fun. How many miles do you have on yours? I have mixed emotions about my smart shox not much different then any of my prior xrs’s.
I have about 2900 miles on mine now. When I first had the smart shox module installed on my sled the smart shox were absolutely amazing! Best ride ever hands down but then the shocks needed a rebuild which I did before this season. They just didn't feel the same again. They were much better in the beginning of this season when they were freshly rebuilt but only 500 miles later and I found myself running in sport mode because comfort mode was to soft and bouncy. Now it could have been this seasons absolutely horrible conditions and it was like riding on concrete sometime but My brother Zuke was saying how good everything felt on his new to him Blizzard. That could also be just because the blizzard rides so much better than any of his other sleds. I was thinking I may not get them next time unless I notice a great improvement on decent trails next season. They also need to change the smart shox switch to a button that just cycles through the three modes because it is impossible to change into sport mode will riding. What are your thoughts?
You should never let gas filler neck take weight of pump handle .I’ve seen them break $$$$.
I'll keep that in mind. Wouldn't want that to happen ever! Thanks for watching.
Certainly beyond frustrating that BRP first of all doesn't include a normal recoil starter with sled, but then designs the newer sled so that emergency recoil starter cannot even be installed. I say "emergency" because when my friend installed it on his 2018 Blizzard 850, the pull handle was actually stowed under/behind a panel. All this while knowing full well there has been issues with the electric starters for years. It gets old and frustrating quickly. The seasons keep getting shorter, and the cost goes up. Then when there is an opportunity to ride, there are neeedless time and money wasting break downs and failures. How are you and your group doing with clutch rollers?
I agree. Beyond poor design for a recoil. As far as secondary rollers go, Gary and Shag have both had failures on previous sleds but I don't think they have replaced the rollers on their current sleds. If one of them did it would be Gary since he bought an extra set of rollers at the time.
If you check out my pre-season video that I made this season I had the secondary rollers replaced as a precautionary measure.
Thanks for the comment and for watching.
If i was you i would be looking for a new ride! How about a nice low mileage 900 R?
Lol. Thanks Brad but I'm going to hang on to it a bit longer. Did you get anything new yet?
No, maybe next year. See what is new for '25
Sounds good.
That wrong I have the same sled as you 2022 Xrs renegade with smart shoes. I had a recoil put on. The fuse box wasn’t an issue.
Thanks. Who installed the recoil? You or a dealer? Are you in my area?
Im in New Hampshire my dealer installed my recoil.
Ok. I guess that won't help me but thanks for the response.
Did you tell Doug stew dog said hi?
No. Because this video was filmed before you asked me to. I haven't seen them since January 21st. I'll try to remember next time I'm there.
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Check your ground wires , after that buy a Yamaha 😜🫡
I will. My order is in early! Lol.
Thanks for watching Frank.
That's crap i have two buddy's with 850 one is a 2022 with recoil on they installed them self's
Yeah. It does stink. I'll have to figure something out. At least your buddies have a recoil.
@Paisteboy I think if you put it on your self you can get one too
You're probably right. I'll have to look into that.
If your sled is still under factory warranty shouldn’t have had to pay labor. Aftermarket extended warranty I can understand. BS they didn’t find anything wrong. It acted up wouldn’t start. Something is failing there are no “flukes” in my opinion. To give the sled back and say they couldn’t find anything wrong is poor customer service.
I do have to say I was disappointed and they couldn't install a recoil either.
Thanks for watching.
Exactly! Most mechanics today are clueless when it comes to troubleshooting electrical issues. I get the crap the dealers can't fix all the time.
Worked 40-years on aircraft electrical systems, sleds are childs play! If all checked out, with solenoids a known issue it should have been replaced under warranty at no cost to the customer!
Agreed. Thanks for watching.
That sucks I seen gen 4 with pull start and charged for not fixing a thing bull shit
Yeah. I was surprised. I may have to get a second opinion on the recoil. After all, ski-doo said you couldn't put scratchers on my sled because of the smart shox but Smith Marine was still able to do it. Thanks for watching Jeff.
There is a bunch of youtubers same issue with sled as yours... sad u pay top dollar for it.
Yup! I had no idea until it happened to me. Now I just have to hope it doesn't happen again.
It's so dumb ski doo doesn't put recoils on those sleds.
I get it but at the same time, I would have never used it once on my 2016 Ski-Doo Blizzard that I had for 6 seasons. It's so rarely needed that they omitted them from a stock sled.
I can see it from both sides but wish I had one right about now. lol. Thanks for watching.
It's always got to be in the back of your head though
Yes, but it won't happen to me, right. Until it does.
Sure wish your vidz had less screwing around in the beginnings.
I thought you were done watching Old Forge videos?
Was wondering what was the problem with your sled. No harm no foul. My channel is no edit and just Milwaukee tool vidz. Not really a CZcamsr so I have no room to speak.
And yet here you are. It's called an intro and it's a good one. You could always skip it.