Hitman 2 - The Dark Side of Helen West

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  • čas přidán 2. 01. 2019
  • This video captures as much dialogue and interactions that I could find involving Helen West: the Muffin lady of Whittleton Creek. As 47 digs deeper, he learns some dark and disturbing secrets about this serial killer in the making.
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Komentáře • 645

  • @dwelldell8715
    @dwelldell8715 Před 4 lety +3119

    It’s sad that developers had spent a lot of time on dialogue but yet most people ignore it

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 4 lety +589

      True, but even if no one ever discovered it, I think that IOI would still add this type of dialogue. The whole team is driven to produce a game beyond normal expectations and the story line developers take such pride in their work.

    • @MrKing-771
      @MrKing-771 Před 4 lety +205

      There are lots of people who appreciate the details, dialogue, and backstory in the Hitman maps.

    • @awesomestuff9715
      @awesomestuff9715 Před 3 lety +78

      they will notice it though, and without it, the game would feel alot more..... empty

    • @q-tip4723
      @q-tip4723 Před 3 lety +48

      These little sub-stories are a nice touch.

    • @TheFartGod69
      @TheFartGod69 Před 3 lety +7

      Thank god for Euler

  • @00aa00able
    @00aa00able Před 5 lety +1810

    You're skills at walking and remaining outta sight is st Michael myers level

  • @pancake1308
    @pancake1308 Před 5 lety +1232

    Agent 47 has a mission. Instead of doing his mission he just stalks an old lady all day.

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +282

      An experienced assassin will always take time to study his targets, their routines, and who they're connected with. 😉

    • @ctdaniels7049
      @ctdaniels7049 Před 3 lety +21

      Welcome to easter eggs, 47.

    • @thatonewhale
      @thatonewhale Před 3 lety +1

      @@ctdaniels7049 oh, fuck off, mate

    • @thedarkderp2520
      @thedarkderp2520 Před 3 lety +11

      @@thatonewhale that's nice

    • @thatonewhale
      @thatonewhale Před 3 lety +1

      @@thedarkderp2520 oh, fuck off, sarcastic man

  • @JS-nl9io
    @JS-nl9io Před 5 lety +2193

    Crazy how the writers dedicated so much effort into creating her character with a full back story and all... Feel like I know more about her than about 47

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +247

      It is crazy, but shows how much love they put into this game, even when most players will never get to see it. Not matter how much we learn about 47, compared to "normal" folk, he will always be shrouded in mystery.

    • @buttermebuns6974
      @buttermebuns6974 Před 4 lety +27

      DescriptionGenetically engineered from conception to be the perfect killing machine, he's the culmination of decades of research, endowed with unprecedented strength, speed, stamina and intelligence. Known only as Agent 47 (Rupert Friend), his latest target is a corporation that plans to unlock the secret of his past to create an army of killers even more powerful than him. With help from a young woman, the elite assassin confronts revelations about his own origins in an epic battle with his deadliest foe.
      There you go I fixed that problem

    • @justsomedeerwithinternetac2927
      @justsomedeerwithinternetac2927 Před 4 lety +9

      @@buttermebuns6974 bruh this is a game not rupert shit friend movie

    • @buttermebuns6974
      @buttermebuns6974 Před 4 lety

      BlitzWingerFan I don’t understand your reference please explain

    • @justsomedeerwithinternetac2927
      @justsomedeerwithinternetac2927 Před 4 lety +8

      @@buttermebuns6974 what u typed since u said rupert friend ur talking about movie 47 i dont think its story is the same to the games

  • @hydrasiren1118
    @hydrasiren1118 Před 5 lety +824

    I actually felt bad for shooting the muffin granny. Then I went downstairs and saw "Murder Basement".

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +161

      Indeed. The first time I visited Whittleton Creek and saw that basement it literally sent chills down my spine.

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +78

      @Alpha Leader 42 Aye, that's a great easter egg.

    • @justsomedeerwithinternetac2927
      @justsomedeerwithinternetac2927 Před 4 lety +49

      @@Euler13 me goes in basment just on the stairs* nope fuck this shit im out *leaves*

    • @alexcolley205
      @alexcolley205 Před 3 lety +30

      @@Euler13 Same. I was freaking out until I realized that I could actually use the poison down their.

    • @alexcolley205
      @alexcolley205 Před 3 lety +8

      there*

  • @decanusservius9180
    @decanusservius9180 Před 4 lety +1130

    14:13 "I'm hot and you are not!" Lady, 47 is 55 years old, he looks better than you at his age.

    • @justsomedeerwithinternetac2927
    • @qman9450
      @qman9450 Před 4 lety +3

      🤣

    • @zidaneshairline94
      @zidaneshairline94 Před 4 lety +105

      Her name is definitely Karen

    • @memelord97-99
      @memelord97-99 Před 4 lety +67

      Definitely was a Karen.

    • @Ruosteinenknight
      @Ruosteinenknight Před 3 lety +125

      GAMA hospital check up actually shows that based on their exams 47 hasn't aged at all: he doesn't show any kind of age related illnesses. Everything from Hemoglobin to cholesterol is that of a man in his early 20's.

  • @darthvaderreviews6926
    @darthvaderreviews6926 Před 3 lety +1302

    TBH I think Helen West should've been an optional hidden Target, like the female assassin in Blood Money's "You Better Watch Out" mission. If you discover Helen West's serial killing operation, Diana should authorise (or retroactively endorse) 47 killing West. Would've added a nice extra bit of depth and variance to an already great level.

    • @Chuked
      @Chuked Před 3 lety +17

      Yes

    • @towerbunga
      @towerbunga Před 3 lety +164

      Yeah. I wish they did that in a load of levels. I want more 47 and Diana being good people, not just killing those who the contract says to kill, for better or worse.

    • @skytop082
      @skytop082 Před 3 lety +162

      The first level of Hitman Contracts involves you discovering that your Target wasn't the one that kidnapped, tortured (implicitly raped) and murdered your clients daughter, but it was actually his brother who is in the building with him. You are still to carry out the contract as normal and get a non-target kill penalty for killing his brother.

    • @BrianKyleMcCord
      @BrianKyleMcCord Před 2 lety +28

      @@skytop082 and it never comes up again? That sucks.

    • @radioactiveguy5531
      @radioactiveguy5531 Před 2 lety +10

      Or they could make it a side mission or an escalation

  • @bigchiefsmackaho387
    @bigchiefsmackaho387 Před 3 lety +269

    Her teeth are a character of their own

    • @Prix-cp5qc
      @Prix-cp5qc Před 3 lety +7

      Lmfao

    • @chrisredfield6274
      @chrisredfield6274 Před 2 lety +15

      "Get out of my face" she says angrily while never breaking her creepy ass smile

  • @sigsauer5997
    @sigsauer5997 Před 5 lety +839

    22:23 he's walking out of the house like he just got some booty.

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +163

      I know. That swagger is hilarious. 🤣

    • @bjkbjkk8767
      @bjkbjkk8767 Před 4 lety +43

      @@Euler13 10:50 Half Life 3 confirmed

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 4 lety +35

      @@bjkbjkk8767 Good spot! 😎

    • @Cheese-qk1ft
      @Cheese-qk1ft Před 3 lety +48

      @@Euler13 exaggerated swagger of an 80 year old man that is about to be assasinated in a few weeks

    • @DgardsGaming
      @DgardsGaming Před 3 lety +20

      For crippling old man that was surprising he must’ve definitely gotten something

  • @totalcreativegaming6681
    @totalcreativegaming6681 Před 3 lety +435

    Wow, I’ve noticed Helen’s first phone call with Janus and the body parts in her twisted cannibalistic serial killer basement and knew she was dodgy, but I never really bothered to look further into her backstory. It’s sickening and horrifying to think that the citizens of whittleton creek are obliviously eating human muffins. And what’s even scarier is that people like her actually exist in real life, where on the exterior they seem like lovely and harmless people but deep down they’re secretly a murderous psychopath

    • @mrmr-qx4jq
      @mrmr-qx4jq Před 2 lety +10

      Lol I never knew any of this this crazy

    • @LabTech41
      @LabTech41 Před rokem +49

      Actually, if you take the game as a whole along with all the 'elusive target' scenarios, that neighborhood actually has TWO serial killers, her, and the Elusive Target.
      Thing is, the ET is super-obvious if you're paying attention, and it's clear the only reason he's not been caught is because the neighborhood is amazingly vapid and not paying attention.
      Serial killers, or the sociopath/psychopath personality type, exists in about 1-5% of the population, which means that if you passed 100 people on the street, statistically you walked by 4 sociopaths and 1 psychopath and never even realized it. Thing is, most people like that don't even realize that's what they are, and most people are completely oblivious to their true nature because they just come off as assholes or bitches; basically, if you've ever had to deal with an awful boss, you were probably dealing with that 1-5%. Just because that's what they are, doesn't necessarily mean they'll kill or even hurt anyone, it just means they truly don't care what other people feel or think, and people are just tools and resources to be exploited, which is why a lot of them end up in leadership/political roles; if you've ever wondered why Politician X could sell out the country and do some heinous illegal shit, that's why.
      The scary thing though, is that the ones that are truly sick, truly gone off the reservation, are also very good at emulating baseline personality traits; they study the normal reactions other people have, and they wear it like a mask, such as how Muffin Lady hides her true nature behind a kind old granny disguise. We'll never know how many serial killers are out there, because for every one we catch, there's probably 4 or 5 who were smart enough, careful enough, and thorough enough to completely evade detection.
      Those muffins probably are pretty good, though.

    • @AlephSharp
      @AlephSharp Před rokem +8

      3, dont forget demon sacrifice basement with bloody bird-skull axe thats a shortcut to janus's house

    • @fairnut6418
      @fairnut6418 Před rokem

      Bitch she walks around with a fucking grin all teeth bare, no sane person would do that.

    • @Iwasonceanonionwithnolayers
      @Iwasonceanonionwithnolayers Před rokem +8

      This is why I don't eat other people's food...

  • @brucesnow7125
    @brucesnow7125 Před 3 lety +921

    Is nobody gonna talk about how great and real Janus's observation on suburbs was? A perfect prison indeed..

    • @thehonorablereverendaddiso1943
      @thehonorablereverendaddiso1943 Před 3 lety +14

      ​@@voidofspaceandtime4684 Yeah, well I still don't wanna hear it from them. We can settle that problem later, but fuck commies no matter what.

    • @cockidk
      @cockidk Před 3 lety +95

      @@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943 u have brain worms, with ur absurd fixation and fear of communism. we are talking about suburbs not seizing the means of production

    • @thehonorablereverendaddiso1943
      @thehonorablereverendaddiso1943 Před 3 lety +3

      @@cockidk You're a liar

    • @2023-Sucked
      @2023-Sucked Před 3 lety +98

      @@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943 the fuc what??? Dude, just cause he’s being realistic isn’t communism, he’s not wrong, with the suburbs, there are only so many things around you, but offers easy access to everything around you, while in a city you have to wait for an hour at a stoplight to go a single block, he’s just making a realistic comparison, so chill out Mr Reagan reincarnated

    • @2023-Sucked
      @2023-Sucked Před 3 lety +18

      @@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943 you do realize there technically hasn’t been communism since the early 90s, right?

  • @mwmwmwmwmmdw
    @mwmwmwmwmmdw Před 5 lety +321

    16:06 that is some advanced level dodging

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +75

      I wondered if anyone would notice that. I like living life dangerously. 😜

    • @Todocooks
      @Todocooks Před 5 měsíci

      I see that right now and it’s still impressive brother

  • @GgrimrodD
    @GgrimrodD Před 3 lety +164

    Hearing her go from "have you filed my tax returns?" to "I didn't mean to kill him!" was just appalling

  • @A-aronTI
    @A-aronTI Před 3 lety +1083

    Helen: “Please, whatever I did to upset you, I’m sorry! Please let me go”
    Also Helen: *stands in a murder room, baked muffins out of bodies, and has killed countless people*
    Agent 47: *shoots*

    • @ctdaniels7049
      @ctdaniels7049 Před 3 lety +63

      THE MUFFINS... IS PEOPLE

    • @elsamboi9405
      @elsamboi9405 Před 3 lety +101

      "Baked muffins out of bodies"
      Wait! Did I miss something? When is THAT revelation?

    • @A-aronTI
      @A-aronTI Před 3 lety +13

      @@elsamboi9405 Yeah... you missed out on a lot lol.

    • @ctdaniels7049
      @ctdaniels7049 Před 3 lety +36

      @@elsamboi9405 My guess was that it was related to that brain in a jar, but that's about it.

    • @shredjward
      @shredjward Před 3 lety +174

      @@ctdaniels7049 it definitely doesnt seem like she's baking them out of human bodies, but it does seem like she's purposefully drugging/poisoning the muffins with her own self-devised chemicals in order to test what people become addicted to and what will kill a person, with my references being her talking about basically doing advanced chemistry with her formula, the bottles of pills and drug lab levels of beakers, phials, and distilleries, how that dude literally cannot stop eating the cupcakes in the beginning and also how Janus gets irationally angry at not having one to eat, plus when she talks about how Schmidt wasnt supposed to die (and also how she wished she had his blood records) and you see the bloody handprint on the wall, my guess is that she fed him a muffin-cocktail, it was enough to either make him delirious to a mental break (if theyre psychoactive chemical compounds) or heavily ill (in the case of poisons) and if the latter he probably realized it and threatened her so she killed him in his weakened state. Just my 2 centz tho

  • @Zach-eo8ru
    @Zach-eo8ru Před 3 lety +439

    I’ve stumbled upon her basement before and was utterly shocked and confused. I assumed it was an Easter Egg, but the fact they took time to develop her backstory is neat. Thanks for showing this!

  • @Ruosteinenknight
    @Ruosteinenknight Před 3 lety +188

    Janus sounds so happy about a prospect of getting to eat one of those muffins. It's actually debated among fandom if Janus knows Helen's "other nature" and respects her as sort of an equal, because she masterfully leads a double life or is he completly fooled by her. I'm personally 50/50: sure, Janus never stopped being a spy (he profiled Cassidy in a heart beat) but I don't think he'd volunterily eat muffins made out of people.
    Or would he?

    • @TheUltimateHacker007
      @TheUltimateHacker007 Před 2 lety

      I think he knows and feels apathy eating soulless westerners

    • @amqru
      @amqru Před rokem +16

      I think he wouldn't care at all

    • @tiiuuuiid8019
      @tiiuuuiid8019 Před rokem +39

      He knows. Does not Janus at 20:40 say that he know Helen killed Schmidt and thaht he do not care becouse he did worse things ?

    • @AgentWolnyTyl3k
      @AgentWolnyTyl3k Před 9 měsíci +14

      ​@@tiiuuuiid8019 he knows she has an urge to commit violent acts, but doesn't know that she uses human parts for her muffins

  • @LeroyW70
    @LeroyW70 Před 4 lety +209

    22:22 Janus acting like he just got laid

    • @robertlombardo8437
      @robertlombardo8437 Před 3 lety +21

      *Bully Maguire theme starts playing*

    • @yadig.
      @yadig. Před 2 lety +1

      @@robertlombardo8437 ....You mean James Brown

  • @FilleatUT
    @FilleatUT Před 3 lety +84

    22:22 lmao that walk - like he managed to rob a bank and got away with it

  • @CorruptPianist
    @CorruptPianist Před 3 lety +89

    In most video games, the more experienced you are, the faster and more violent you can be.
    In Hitman, the deeper you get, the more you slow down to take in your surroundings. I like that.

    • @a.k8185
      @a.k8185 Před rokem

      You can still take a gun and kill everybody

  • @yellowzr1514
    @yellowzr1514 Před 5 lety +504

    Nice one, Euler! Helen is such an interesting yet terrifying character.
    Just add some notes here, there are two male muffin servers who also share the last name "West" in the contract mode, could be her children or relatives.
    Anyway, if you haven't already worked on the next video, may I suggest an episode of the legendary assassin "Kashmirian"? He has lots of dialogues and some interesting stories.

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +78

      You're welcome. That's an interesting find with those other NPCs sharing the surname, West.

    • @alyasfukename3355
      @alyasfukename3355 Před 2 lety +16

      They're also implied to be descendents of the statue of West in the park at the far end of the map.

  • @thENDweDIE
    @thENDweDIE Před 5 lety +154

    22:22 That strut though... xD

  • @theshowmaster3836
    @theshowmaster3836 Před rokem +12

    “Saturday is muffin day. Where are my muffins Gunther?!”

  • @KL-ki8db
    @KL-ki8db Před 2 lety +66

    I really wish there was a secret Easter egg where you could get extra points when killing her if you shoved her in the oven and locked her in there. I call it “Handle the griddle” (Hansel and Gretel)

    • @ironicivan4928
      @ironicivan4928 Před 2 lety

      well, there is a challenge where u have to kill her with incineration ( the oven ) and it's exactly how you described it

    • @DaftnPunk
      @DaftnPunk Před rokem +8

      I would call it Mrs.Lovetteor do a joke based on Sweeny Todd.

  • @danielcooper3332
    @danielcooper3332 Před 5 lety +275

    How cool would it be if it mentioned she had history with Etta Davis AKA the Angle of Death.

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +59

      Now that would be cool. She was one of my favourite ETs because I thought she had one of the most developed and interesting backstories. In fact, it was doing that ET that encouraged me to begin doing the dialogue videos.

    • @danielcooper3332
      @danielcooper3332 Před 5 lety +12

      Could you do a video on Maxwell Rutter (Miami map), Hector Delgado or The Kashmirian they all seem to have deeper stories despite being non-targets.

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +22

      I'm always on the lookout for interesting characters. Mumbai seems to have some of the most interesting back stories. I just wish I had more time, but I'll definitely get around to some more. 👍

    • @danielcooper3332
      @danielcooper3332 Před 5 lety +3

      Cool I look forward to seeing who you investigate next

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 4 lety +4

      @@Dynamic_Editor Of course you're entitled to your view, but do you really think The Angel of Death is the least developed backstory of all the ETs? This was my first attempt at doing a dialogue video, and I cringe at how bad it looks now compared to my recent ones, but did you watch my dialogue video on The Angel of Death? czcams.com/video/9M1RR8lw6Po/video.html
      Out of interest, which ones did you think were more developed?

  • @Nirrini
    @Nirrini Před 3 lety +188

    Thank you for doing this walkthrough on the Helen/Janus relationship, the backstory of Schmidt and also revealing Helen’s true cruel nature.
    It was like watching a mini movie with puzzle pieces put in place.
    Also, nice stealth skills, my man.

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 3 lety +11

      Glad you enjoyed it. I wish I had time to do more, but if you've not already seen them I did one for Hailey Brennan in Paris:
      czcams.com/video/JWxmm0PEcw0/video.html
      and Marco Abiatti in Landslide:
      czcams.com/video/pN2C5PZd8o0/video.html
      Plus all the Elusive Target dialogue:
      czcams.com/play/PLsAGCukI0W-zbqokYcQY-Y9QUXbrFvXym.html

    • @Nirrini
      @Nirrini Před 3 lety +3

      @@Euler13 No problem at all.
      I watched a bit of your content, it was very addictive, plus it was pretty late at the time I left a comment so I had to take a break.
      However, I’m picking up where I left off with your gameplay.
      I’m definitely checking out the links you provided. Thank you again.

  • @ujustgotpwned2008
    @ujustgotpwned2008 Před 3 lety +74

    I fell down the Helen West rabbit hole myself about a year ago after overhearing a conversation in Whittleton Creek and it was just an amazing piece of story telling; I loved it.

  • @carliandivina442
    @carliandivina442 Před 3 lety +41

    "excuse me, can you get out of my face please" and here i was thinking she did not mind him at all... :D also helen's single facial expression is kinda unsettling... :D

  • @brendontruong7127
    @brendontruong7127 Před 11 měsíci +5

    One day I aspire to be a bald man with a barcode on the back of my head that eavesdrop with no one noticing and standing menacingly in personal spaces.

  • @roostercake5437
    @roostercake5437 Před 2 lety +104

    They should creat an entire game off of this level. I would pay big money for a game just running around a neighborhood causing trouble and finding out crazy stuff about my neighbors. It litterly feels like an entirety different game that I just want more of.

  • @Raphie009
    @Raphie009 Před 3 lety +141

    7:09 based on Janus' dialogue, I would like to read this book.

    • @Jacob-do1wo
      @Jacob-do1wo Před 3 lety +14

      Janus is a fucking genius

    • @nikolanedic9179
      @nikolanedic9179 Před 3 lety +18

      It is loosely based on the book called "The One-Dimensional Man" by Herbert Marcuse, a one of a kind sociological study 🙂

  • @luismdgr
    @luismdgr Před 3 lety +101

    I noticed some of those events and dialogues but I COMPLETELY falied to make the connection!!!! I knew that there was something wrong with her when I saw the furnace but I didn´t realize that she was also baking the muffins! When did this game turn into a horror movie???

    • @drewabbott6993
      @drewabbott6993 Před 3 lety +10

      Its always had some horror aspects.

    • @blackheavymetalman
      @blackheavymetalman Před rokem

      @@drewabbott6993 True in contracts you have a ghost or was it just a haunted hotel room I cant remember

  • @squarek123
    @squarek123 Před 5 lety +79

    5:50 what a badass

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +9

      🤣 Yeah, 47 looks good with pink.

  • @anthonymiller934
    @anthonymiller934 Před 3 lety +33

    19:10
    Idk why but seeing 47 walk by janus made me laugh

  • @rbrucerye
    @rbrucerye Před 4 lety +101

    Evasive Target: The Muffin Lady
    Good afternoon Agent 47.
    Your target is Helen West AKA the Muffin Lady. Our client a very concerned and wealthy government worker has hired us to eliminate Ms West after her son got extremely sick after eating several of Ms West's well regarded muffins. Unfortunately local law enforcement was unwilling to take any action against Ms West in regards to his poisoning and so our client has hired us to ensure that Ms West is put out of business for good. The client has also asked us to eliminate Ms West in an accidental fashion so that her death is treated as non suspicious.
    The clock is ticking Agent 47 good luck.

    • @rbrucerye
      @rbrucerye Před 3 lety +4

      The contract ID is 1-22-7192083-74

    • @smartii3s
      @smartii3s Před 3 lety +1

      rbrucerye what about for Xbox?

    • @thaequalizer3539
      @thaequalizer3539 Před 3 lety +6

      IO should make Helen West a target in Hitman 3.

    • @rbrucerye
      @rbrucerye Před 3 lety

      @@smartii3s Sadly I only play hitman on PC.

    • @nikopunksuperlink
      @nikopunksuperlink Před 2 lety +5

      Targets
      Eliminate helen west
      Objectives
      Find evidence and clues

  • @denji5426
    @denji5426 Před 2 lety +22

    the fact that they even added the tiny detail of her checking herself out in the mirror is insane to me, i can't believe i missed this when i played hitman.

  • @Andrewnuva199
    @Andrewnuva199 Před 3 lety +33

    Coming back with a second opinion, imagine the effect had if Agent 47, as more typically done, ignores Helen and goes about his business, at best snooping her house for poison or Providence intel, and by leaving a dead Janus behind him, depending on how much he did that day, this could throw Helen entirely off-kilter from her grief and make her more of a bonda-fide killer? What sort of effect would that have, eh?

  • @sav4ge2
    @sav4ge2 Před 4 lety +15

    She talks about muffins as if she's a nuclear physicist

    • @AceOfBlackjack
      @AceOfBlackjack Před 3 lety +4

      She puts body in it, she makes it tasteless with a certain additive.

  • @nicktb1999
    @nicktb1999 Před 5 lety +120

    you did some detective work right there,
    what i wonder, if there are human remain in her basement. (like the brain)
    does she use that in her muffins?
    becauce all those people say there is something special about it "they are the nest muffins i ever had" and among that.
    or does she just kill with poison muffins?
    "the killer muffin lady"

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +96

      Thank you. We're led to believe that the "murder" she committed was partly accidental due to an unforeseen allergy. But I'm not convinced. Also, I think the writers have deliberately left us guessing as to what she puts in her muffins.

    • @nicktb1999
      @nicktb1999 Před 5 lety +50

      @@Euler13 well, im not eating those muffins thats for sure.

    • @unicornioverderojoviejo6758
      @unicornioverderojoviejo6758 Před 5 lety +10

      @@Euler13 She confirmed that she was a psycho, so yeah, she killed because she wanted to return to her old days lol

    • @darthvaderreviews6926
      @darthvaderreviews6926 Před 3 lety +24

      @@Euler13 47 says it's _either_ a severe allergic reaction or straight poisoning, so IMO the allergic reaction was a misjudgement on behalf of the police. The way the room's covered in a crazy amount of blood signals to me that the allergic reaction explanation is supposed to feel like nonsense.

    • @Snorlaxx699
      @Snorlaxx699 Před 2 lety

      @@Euler13 Octopus

  • @TonyMontana-pg6to
    @TonyMontana-pg6to Před 2 lety +7

    I like how at 6:28, it’s implied that she’s still an old lady who doesn’t understand how e-mails work.

  • @viniciusalves1547
    @viniciusalves1547 Před 3 lety +32

    Man I saw her house and tried to find something about her, but couldn't do it. I was asking myself how the hell no one had made a video about it, cause dude she's creepy. Thanks a lot bro!

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 3 lety

      You're welcome. If you've not already seen them, I've done some other dialogue videos.
      Hailey Brennan in Paris:
      czcams.com/video/JWxmm0PEcw0/video.html
      and Marco Abiatti in Landslide:
      czcams.com/video/pN2C5PZd8o0/video.html
      Plus all the Elusive Target dialogue:
      czcams.com/play/PLsAGCukI0W-zbqokYcQY-Y9QUXbrFvXym.html

    • @drinkingcowboy4806
      @drinkingcowboy4806 Před rokem

      @@Euler13 and can you do something about the bartender in Colombia because he has the cartel in his basement

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před rokem +1

      @@drinkingcowboy4806 If I get a chance I'll take a look, but I don't think he has much dialogue. Check out this cool channel for loads more dialogue: czcams.com/channels/aug2L1OInWsZiLSeyVav3A.htmlvideos

  • @sng3939
    @sng3939 Před 4 lety +31

    There’s so much detail in this mission yet no many people have the patience

    • @queenqueen977
      @queenqueen977 Před 2 lety +6

      Honeslty one of the best and my FAVORITE mission ! I wish people actually appreciated the stepford wives creepy vibe to it all

  • @MOONSUN4Life
    @MOONSUN4Life Před 2 lety +25

    Saying this channel is underrated is a massive understatement. The amount of work this video alone required is simply staggering.

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 2 lety +3

      That's very kind of you to say. I'm glad you've enjoyed the videos. It's definitely a labour of love. 😊

  • @mariagheata2133
    @mariagheata2133 Před 3 lety +32

    Ok, this is absolutely AMAZING! I played this map beyond belief, unlocked everything and still didn't get to hear all those dialogues. Great job!

  • @xX47ReasonsWhyXx
    @xX47ReasonsWhyXx Před 5 lety +132

    This is one hell of an interesting story thanks for taking the time to do this mate you're the man 👍

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +14

      You're very welcome. I find these side characters absolutely fascinating.

    • @xX47ReasonsWhyXx
      @xX47ReasonsWhyXx Před 5 lety +6

      They are indeed I like that every npc is shady in their own funked up way.

  • @dwelldell8715
    @dwelldell8715 Před 4 lety +38

    At 21:19 Helen says how much of a psycho she is

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 4 lety +26

      She really was a dark person. This is why Janus was so delighted to have met her. A true kindred soul.

  • @se7399
    @se7399 Před rokem +3

    That Dialogue of Janus about Suburbs its very poignant, they really researched that topic

  • @dreadwind8216
    @dreadwind8216 Před 2 lety +9

    I didn't even know Helen was on probation now it all clicks along with the meeting she and Janus had (discovered myself) just wow favorite series of all time

  • @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034

    I'm never eating blueberry muffins ever again. 🐻😖

  • @kwaksea
    @kwaksea Před 4 lety +23

    Oh thats what happened in there. I was so sure that old man has some "fun time".

  • @Bokaj01
    @Bokaj01 Před 4 lety +15

    I rushed too quick through this game. There are so many details and hidden clues. I love her reading chair and the lamp in her basement.

  • @Andre_Holmes
    @Andre_Holmes Před 5 lety +33

    23:36 casually staring at the burning corpse 😂

  • @zxylo786
    @zxylo786 Před 3 lety +7

    I didn't know she was this profound, Hitman never ceases to surprise me

  • @hey01e5
    @hey01e5 Před 5 lety +72

    5:08 god dammit diana won't stop interrupting conversations

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +18

      I know, and nothing I tried could stop that scripted line from being spoken during that conversation.

  • @gug4023
    @gug4023 Před 3 lety +3

    10:50 DOCTOR FREEMAN IS TALKING AND WE CAN'T HEAR IT

  • @VideoGameSophistry
    @VideoGameSophistry Před 2 lety +7

    This is exceptional. I absolutely love this. Great work.

  • @tashibalampkin8555
    @tashibalampkin8555 Před rokem +13

    8:10 - 8:34 Dude, blow my mind. I agree with him. I hate the fact driving, having, a car is something a person has to have since you can't walk anywhere safely. There are no sidewalks, no crosswalks, and the area around suburbs isn't designed with walkers in mind.

  • @RinoaAngelwings696
    @RinoaAngelwings696 Před 4 lety +15

    One thing I did not understand is why the hell was the muffin server upstairs inside the Wilson house. One of his co-workers was selling muffins in the stand where the real estate guy was at and two coworkers were at Helen's house. Every time you enter the room in the Wilson house, he'll say "Oh you need this room? don't mind me I'll leave." And then he will go to another room of the Wilson house. He said that like he wasn't supposed to be there but he got caught in the act when 47 enter the room. I feel like he was there to spy on the Wilson couple but there was no dialogue mentioning about him. I never get why the hell was he there instead of selling muffins like his other co-workers.

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 4 lety +7

      I'm not sure to be honest. The guy serving muffins is called Herbert West and the one upstairs at the Wilson's is called Jed West. I'm guessing that they must be related to each other and Helen West, but I don't know what he's up to. I'll ask around the Hitman community to see if anyone else knows.

    • @RinoaAngelwings696
      @RinoaAngelwings696 Před 4 lety

      @@Euler13 Thanks. Either way, good job on the video. I hope you'll do more videos like this 😁👍

    • @justsomedeerwithinternetac2927
      @justsomedeerwithinternetac2927 Před 4 lety

      @@Euler13 hitman: a assassins dream video game

    • @tenzaemtade6146
      @tenzaemtade6146 Před 2 lety +1

      @@RinoaAngelwings696 Any update on this information?

    • @tenzaemtade6146
      @tenzaemtade6146 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Euler13 any update to enjoys information?

  • @jasonroane2059
    @jasonroane2059 Před 2 lety +8

    I love how these lines of dialogue and context are added! When you go into Contracts Mode it really adds to the depth of this game… I thought I mastered this level and I’m still finding things! Love this game!

  • @walkervan8344
    @walkervan8344 Před 3 lety +11

    That's what i want to know... all the hidden stories in the game. U are doing great, I really appreciate that.

  • @RoyARJ007
    @RoyARJ007 Před 5 lety +29

    Hat's off to your dedication for finding these cool stuff, really helpful bro 🙏😎

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +8

      This game just continues to blow my mind with how much work goes into developing these side characters.

    • @justsomedeerwithinternetac2927
      @justsomedeerwithinternetac2927 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Euler13 meanwhile agent 47 in a dif universe *me* : shooting everyone*

  • @iJorded
    @iJorded Před 3 lety +5

    That old guy saying "good good" is Palpatine in disguise

  • @novaespeon7751
    @novaespeon7751 Před rokem +1

    17:47 Damn! Janus went IN about Nolan Cassidy & his "problems" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 "He is a control freak, a man without a a steady base." Ouch!

  • @phongtranthanh7141
    @phongtranthanh7141 Před 3 lety +7

    Bruh Helen West got a better character development than Rey Palpatine smh

  • @TheFirstCurse1
    @TheFirstCurse1 Před 3 lety +8

    After discovering her murder basement a few days ago in Hitman 2 I was curious about her. This is awesome.

  • @hommefataltaemin
    @hommefataltaemin Před 3 lety +2

    I know I’m quite late but thanks so much for posting these types of videos!!

  • @Ozzymitsu
    @Ozzymitsu Před 5 lety +5

    This was so much fun to watch. Thank you. ☺️

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety

      You're welcome and thanks for the feedback. Personally I enjoy doing them myself very much, but I often wonder how much others are interested.

  • @Cay_den2593
    @Cay_den2593 Před 2 lety +10

    I ruined a perfect silent assassin run just to kill this woman and I do not regret my decision.

  • @abhigyanshrivastava1255
    @abhigyanshrivastava1255 Před 3 lety +1

    My god, thanks for making this video, I love this game even more now

  • @wodka4244
    @wodka4244 Před 4 lety +10

    In this level i like how the people who are having a party in their house are people who make fske copies of art and sell it

  • @unicornioverderojoviejo6758

    Amazing video, you did a good investigation work

  • @cb9220
    @cb9220 Před 2 lety +3

    Ironically I am eating a cupcake while watching this video.
    Suddenly doesn't taste so well anymore...

  • @kensavage7657
    @kensavage7657 Před rokem +5

    This is unbelievable! I had no idea that Helen had so much interesting dialogue in the game!

  • @DanielTheAssassin
    @DanielTheAssassin Před 3 lety +63

    Hitman: the only game where you find a female Hannibal that bakes muffins out of the people she kills.

    • @mattd9881
      @mattd9881 Před 3 lety +7

      Thats not what shes doing.

    • @DanielTheAssassin
      @DanielTheAssassin Před 3 lety +3

      @@maryamotion6398 I was referring to *Hannibal*, the cannibal chef, have you never seen the TV show or the movies?

    • @maryamotion6398
      @maryamotion6398 Před 3 lety +3

      @@DanielTheAssassin oh I forgot those! Thanks for pointing that out

  • @ryaneijkholt4220
    @ryaneijkholt4220 Před 5 lety +8

    Thank you for making a video on Helen West!

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety +1

      You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.

    • @ryaneijkholt4220
      @ryaneijkholt4220 Před 5 lety

      @@Euler13 If you plan on making more dialogue videos, you should really make one on the Kashmirian. I think he's one of the most interesting side characters.

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 5 lety

      You're not the first to make that suggestion. I'll add it to my list. 👍

  • @yesman350
    @yesman350 Před 3 lety +10

    The suburb conversation.... WOAH.

  • @1knightero
    @1knightero Před 3 lety +3

    The person who wrote the dialogue is brilliant . Use of english is impeccable .

  • @kirksnelson9573
    @kirksnelson9573 Před 4 lety +5

    You've earned a subscriber! Also, this is my favorite map.

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you. I really love this mail too. Even though it's not a massive map, the atmosphere is amazing and there are so many interesting characters and locations.

  • @Andrewnuva199
    @Andrewnuva199 Před 5 lety +11

    Can't help but wonder if the player's initiative is taken away from 47, he himself would take time out of the Janus job to eliminate West as well. His morals do look down on unhinged/serial killers, but he can be picky about killing outside of his contracts at times.

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju Před rokem +3

      As of Freelancer, he definitely would.

  • @Sarge327
    @Sarge327 Před 3 lety +4

    Ok imma piece this one together... Helen has urges that makes her want to kill people, she can’t hold off the urge and murders Frank Schmitt, Frank worked for Janus and that leads to Helen and Janus meeting and becoming friends, Helen experiments and possibly bakes using corpse parts, and Janus may have eaten Frank.

    • @mattd9881
      @mattd9881 Před 3 lety +7

      She doesn't do anything with the bodies. She's just testing different poisons on her muffins to see what they do to people.

    • @Sarge327
      @Sarge327 Před 3 lety

      @@mattd9881 ah ok

  • @Simon_Draw_This
    @Simon_Draw_This Před 4 lety +16

    This was the best the movie i ever saw. I mean the ending .. wow! Brilliant!

  • @Sickboyfriend
    @Sickboyfriend Před 5 lety +4

    Excellent find.

  • @gwhizWHO
    @gwhizWHO Před 2 lety +1

    just found your channel and this is really cool keep up the work!

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 2 lety

      That's very kind. Thank you.

  • @27ProBleMatic27
    @27ProBleMatic27 Před rokem +1

    Yo that statement on American neighborhoods....that was deep. What a great game.

  • @Kilgore1004
    @Kilgore1004 Před 3 lety +1

    Hours and hours of playtime on this level and I never noticed how low the chairs are at the Janus' kitchen table

  • @joffles6516
    @joffles6516 Před rokem +1

    i knew there was something suspicious going on but i never dedicated the time to investigate

  • @X-SPONGED
    @X-SPONGED Před rokem +3

    Whittleton Creek - Story Opportunity
    "Helen West - Creek O'Courant Exposé"
    (You take the disguise of a journalist coming into town searching for a hot scoop. It was originally to interview Helen on what makes her muffins so good. If you discover the murder basement in the journalist outfit though, Helen will come down there and try to attack you with a cleaver. Dispatch her and then use the phone to call the police or optionally, Janus. You can ask him for a personal interview to write down his thoughts on the recent discovery as the police arrest her. Janus could be unempathetic to cannibalism, talking about his Cold War stories, or maybe disappointed in Helen and a bit at himself for being so excited over human muffins all these years. All of this conclude in you stabbing Janus through the eye with a pencil or letting Janus go for some reason. I think this side content has TOO MUCH potential to be an opportunity or a side contract to be left out.

  • @SpoopySquid
    @SpoopySquid Před 3 lety +2

    "What's my secret?
    "Frankly dear, forgive my candor.
    "Family secret, all to do with herbs." - Helen West, probably

  • @AstarionWifey
    @AstarionWifey Před 4 lety +10

    Awww as dark as it was. Janus and Helen’s moment was touching

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 4 lety +9

      I guess you're right. As much as they have wicked inclinations to harm, they're still human and it must be very lonely having those feelings and knowing you can't talk to anybody else about it. It does make you wonder if 47 suffers from the same pain or is he really a machine, being utterly disconnected from any hint of humanity?

    • @AstarionWifey
      @AstarionWifey Před 4 lety +3

      Euler13 I’m sure he feels something but with how he was raised? He probably had to suppressed a lot until Lucas (subject 6) came along.

    • @ElliFong
      @ElliFong Před 3 lety +3

      Dude I want to see Agent Smith and 47 hang out for once lol

  • @valx7586
    @valx7586 Před 2 lety +4

    I like everyone calls Janus by his codename "Janus" I can see how they located him so quick

  • @Spaceghost5446
    @Spaceghost5446 Před 2 lety

    The way Janus walks away happy near the end

  • @FortunateJuice
    @FortunateJuice Před 5 lety +65

    9:18 Vault-Tec rep

  • @thefittestofjeans910
    @thefittestofjeans910 Před 4 lety +23

    Janus: I've lived through some of the most iconic moments in recent history
    Helen: Ok boomer

    • @queencyrys6309
      @queencyrys6309 Před 2 lety +1

      He was born in the 30s, he’s a little older than a boomer

  • @CallForGrandPappy
    @CallForGrandPappy Před rokem +2

    I can’t believe I’m just figuring this story out nearly 5 years later… ever since I played A New Life on Blood Money I wanted a scenario like this in one of the games.

  • @guntermaier460
    @guntermaier460 Před 4 lety

    This video is so good!

  • @viewingbooch3055
    @viewingbooch3055 Před rokem +2

    I think it'd be intresting to have her as a future target in Hitman 3, she has a lot of potential!

  • @mustangunique3214
    @mustangunique3214 Před 2 lety

    Nice video man!

    • @Euler13
      @Euler13  Před 2 lety

      Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @mutestingray
    @mutestingray Před 4 měsíci

    Janus walking out of Helen’s house like he just got himself some grammussy

  • @MrPolicekarim
    @MrPolicekarim Před 3 lety +20

    Who knew so many brits in 1 small USA town!? LOL!

    • @firedreferee736
      @firedreferee736 Před 3 lety +5

      or the amount of Brits and guys with Looney Tune accents that work as security for a cartel in Latin America

  • @nanowithbeans2511
    @nanowithbeans2511 Před 2 lety

    jesus the amount of detail in the trilogy is near endless.

  • @kevintrang6447
    @kevintrang6447 Před rokem +1

    22:23 the way he walks out lmao