THE WHALE Movie Review **SPOILER ALERT**
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- čas přidán 4. 12. 2022
- Gay homosexuals Nick and Joseph spoil The Whale - a 2022 American psychological drama film directed by Darren Aronofsky, from a screenplay by Samuel D. Hunter, based on Hunter's 2012 play of the same name.
Premise: 600 lb (270 kg) middle-aged Charlie tries to reconnect with his seventeen-year-old daughter. The two grew apart after Charlie left his family for a man, who later died. Charlie then went on to binge eat out of pain and guilt which resulted in his current appearance.
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Cast:
Brendan Fraser as Charlie
Sadie Sink as Ellie
Hong Chau as Liz
Ty Simpkins as Thomas
Samantha Morton as Mary
Sathya Sridharan as Dan
Cinematography by Matthew Libatique
Edited by Andrew Weisblum
Music by Rob Simonsen
Keywords: ending explained, reaction video, trailer, A24, Mother, Noah, Black Swan, The Fountain, The Wrestler, Requiem For A Dream - Krátké a kreslené filmy
"If Tyler Perry made a serious movie..." tells me everything I need to know.
i love your movie reviews with spoilers because you don't have to beat around the bush and tell your honest opinions about the movie. and the best part is that it's not just one person's opinion but two! i really enjoy your discussions and feel like I am like at a cafe with you.
Same here. I like the interaction between the two.
I love when Joseph asks Nick if he's seen any other movies from the directors. lol
"If Tyler Perry had to make a serious movie about someone from My 600 lb. Life" This statement alone means I have to see this movie!!!!!
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That was so wild 😂😂😂😂 why is Joe like this
lmaooo
Tyler could never not even in his wildest dream.
This movie was not perfect, but it was definitely entertaining and funny. I would give 4/5....3 is too low because the performances were solid.
"The daughter feels like an after school special" XD omfg
I'm rooting for Fraser. He's been through a lot. Gods and Monsters was phenomenal. I'm a big fan of Aronofsky and how he gives older actors time to shine like Rourke, Ellen B, Ed Harris, Pfeiffer, etc. I'll be watching this Friday in the theatre with a friend and I'll probably have to wear waterproof mascara.
Me too. I love him on Doom Patrol and I went back and watched the Mummy, which I love. He deserves a comeback after all he went through! I'm definitely boycotting the Golden Globes for what they did to Brendan!
Oh wow if Joseph has never seen Requiem for a Dream I'd be very interested in a reaction video, get the perspective of someone who has seen the film multiple times vs. a first time viewer. It is one of the most disturbing yet captivating films I have ever seen.
Just one thing I wanted to point out- you mention several times that he reads the essay to calm himself down. In the movie right at the beginning he mentioned he wanted it to be the last thing he read before he died, and he thought he was dying at the beginning. At the end, he KNOWS he's dying and it is in fact the last thing he ever hears.
Personally I teared up a few times during the film... there may have been 2 times I shed 1 good tear during the film... but when the screen turned white- and the film was done... I basically tried to control weeping. The control part was because I was in the presence of others who I heard getting up to leave or started to talk and joke. I nonetheless wept because this movie was such a rolling-thunder of emotions, and especially the last scene made it come to an end... but I think I did weep at the end for the whole movie. It was basically a compounded reaction.
The ending was incredible!
I also teared up, and partially because my dad wasn't in my life for the first 26 years until I found him and we now have a great relationship. But Ellie's resentment and anger and how that's projected onto her dad really hit me. Totally agree on the different intersecting emotional layers that contribute to such a compounded stream of emotions. Two things I would definitely change: not sure the days of the week delineations are all that necessary, but it's not the worst thing ever. The main thing was the missionary. It felt like a forced way to connect Charlie and Liz to the religious group and Alan and the turmoil Alan felt that contributed to his death. I get that they wanted to set up a situation where Ellie "saves" someone by espousing Thomas' story, BUT I would rather have dedicated most of that time to Liz's story and her feelings about her connection to Charlie and his condition, like Joseph was saying.
Me too! I cried throughout but I didn’t expect to bawl at the end! I just get so sad when people do their best and end up hurting themselves trying to make themselves happy in a painful world
The end seems not unlike What’s Eating Gilbert Grape…. I find it more a a question of how we view humanity … I’ve seen bits and pieces of the 600 pound life thing… it seemed exploitive…. Seems easy to look and point…. So I hope this film has something more.
It doesn't seem very humanizing. I think bc I'm at the intersection of fat and brown that I'm thinking of how Black movies where everything is just misery feels like trauma porn of our history. And this is reminding me of that but for fatness.
This movie has been so hush hush it better be a masterpiece with all the anticipation
This is no masterpiece
Spoiler alert: it’s not a masterpiece
Actually, it is.
@@jbrossable actually, it isn’t.
The performance by Brendan is astounding and definitely an Oscar winning performance.
This is one I’ve been anticipating to watch not only because of Brendan Fraser but because most of Darren Aronofsky’s work has been amazing to me. One of the few directors to keep giving us some fresh stories. I admit not everything he’s done is good but the effort and care put in his films is admirable
Even his not so 'good' films are better than what's being dished out these days. For example Mother! which I enjoyed. But then again I loved Lady in The Water by MKS which nobody seems to care for.
@@TechnicJunglist he’s still giving us creativity and some fresh ideas which is rare nowadays so I understand. Right now we’re at an era where remakes and franchises are the thing so it is nice to get movies like this even if they aren’t amazing
@@hey-zel I agree. The industry has fallen into a deep hole of mediocrity. I'll take Lynch, Trier, & Aronofsky over fluffed up cash money grabs any day. Thank the gods for A24 and it's counterparts for putting out experimental content.
ehh it's a weird thing to say so I'll try lol but pretty much all of Darren's work is quality, but the guy is anything, but subtle. All of his movies suffer (in varying degrees) from this. Except The Wrestler. That movie is crazy underrated. Overall, I like him too, I just wouldn't refer to his stories as fresh, they always beat you over the head with not so deep symbolism. They feel immature/unoriginal.
@@TrailerTrashThorne well I guess what I mean by fresh is that sure these ideas aren't new or based on anything like today where we barely get any movies that don't revolve around a franchise or remake his movies feel “fresh”
I was already going to watch this because of Brendan and Aronofsky. After reading Brendan's interview in GQ last month + watching a clip of him breaking down his iconic roles, I just wanna hug him and give him all the things because he's a kind, lovable, funny bear. Also, respect to him for not attending the Golden Globes next year.
Thank you for your review and thoughts on this!!🥰
So you’re actively searching for and taking in every form of spoiler (including this video, HEAVY spoilers) available to you before even seeing the film? Stay in school, kid…
Can't I just say that you guys are killing it? I really love, and I noticed this on your Bones and All review, how you go into detail of the director's past work and every little detail on each film. Really good job you two and keep rocking!
Omg! The image for this video! Nick giving that side eye and serving up sass! I love you guys!
I love you guys and your channel.
This movie joins a list of movies for me that has left me completely shaken. Like Dancer in the Dark, Requiem For a Dream, Philadelphia, and a few others. I can’t disagree with any of your criticisms, at the same time, this is one of the best movies of the year, and I hope everyone goes to see it.
The truth is, that this is what it looks like! When I was little, my mom would get into fights with my dad or have an issue and she would drive to the donut store and buy a dozen donuts and a bucket of chicken and eat it all. This movie was so beautiful and it showed us a glimpse of the inner secrets of an obese person! it really had me crying the ugly cry!!
So glad you guys covered this, I love y’all! And I love Aronofsky, he’s so polarizing 😂 reminds me of Von Trier. Also so funny the duality of you two, one doesn’t know the names of Aronofsky’s films and the other just names them all off 😂 y’all are the best. But seriously, I’m so glad filmmakers like Aronofsky exist to make challenging art for people like me who are up for said challenge. Bring it on! Love it
Jesus what a beautiful movie. I went through two whole toilet rolls while watching this movie. Have not cried this much from a single movie in a very long time and what I really loved about it was it was not trying to be overly-sentimental ( Charlie is a complicated character with a ton of flaws but his goodness as a human being outweighs them in the end) or manipulative (like some of these tear jerkers are). The Whale is the real deal people, Watch it, bawl your eyeballs out of your head and leave with a profoundly beautiful message about hope and being a good person as Charlies heart is made from pure gold. Well done Brendan. You deserved that Oscar win.
Best review I've found for this after looking all weekend. Your perspectives are appreciated. Cheers.
Ugh this dynamic reminds me of my gf and I … love you guys, happy holidays
Great review guys. Cant wait for this one.
Joseph, please never stop referring female characters to Ladies. So good.
Didn't love this movie ... But liked Brendan Fraser and am happy to see him back in the spotlight
Name them! You are my favorite reviewers.
It's so nice that Joseph shows his 'frustrations' on detailing some characters, like their motivations, within the plot. So, I feel your comments lead to very accurate conclusion(s) of this story in the end:)😺Why? *It's a little melodramatic.* So nicely said.
Premieres in 25 days? What kind of torture technique is this? I want to watch it now >_
You can watch the play version (not with Brenden Fraser) on CZcams
Great video! I agreed with everything y'all said. I know it's not "high art" Brendan Frasier was great in George of the Jungle, Blast from the Past etc. He's also done a lot of serious movies. He's always been a really great actor. He's the best part of "The Whale".
So this movie is about Tuttle from American dad?
The part that confused me about "missionary" Thomas was that he seemed to be benevolent Christian, trying respectfully and with good intentions to spread the love of God. He seemed to demonstrate care, compassion, forgiveness, and acceptance. Then at the end he is a gay-hating religious nut. It really threw me off because I thought he was not that kind of person/Christian.
Loved this film! And I just wanted to say that I'm a huge fan of you both!! Absolutely adore your reviews.
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Yes, do watch Requiem For A Dream. It’s a beautiful holiday classic. 👀
I agree in regards to the way Sadie Sink’s character was used/ the plot twist with the Christian boy. Both characters didn’t work for me and were honestly so distracting imo! But both Liz and Charlie’s characters were so endearing. Thank you for the review🥰
That is Sam Neil’s character name: Alan Grant.
It sounds a little bit like the ending of Breaking the Waves
Excellent film by Trier
Thank you for watching this, so I don’t have to 🎉🎉❤
Always been a fan of Brendan Fraser.
I’m looking forward to seeing this movie
I loved this movie so much. Because if my father cared about me like Charlie did for his daughter, it’d be too late because he ruined his body as well is dying and there isn’t enough time to rekindle. I sobbed a lot.
I was hoping this would have been better I was hoping you would give it at least 4 stars.
i will still go see it.
I think it deserves at least 4 stars. Great movie with all the feels!
@@dogtrainer4645 yes id give it 4 for sure ive seen it 2x i loved it
charlie didn't wish to live and was eating himself to death. he just wanted to leave a legacy for his daughter. the daughter, ellie, was quite intelligent and bitter. at the end, he may have been trying to stand but probably never actually made it to his feet. aronofsky often blurs the line between fantasy and reality. although she was ambivalant, ellie needed to connect with charlie, and her snitching on thomas was her ingenious way of helping him to reconnect with his parents. well, that's my take.
I think you had a better understanding of this film than these reviewers. I don't think they get it.
I could accept the idea that all he wanted was to make sure his daughter was ok, had he not dragged her back into his life to connect with her when he knew he had no intention of being around for her. If it was just about her, why not just leave her the money? Imo it feels like he chose his own need to feel comforted in his last days over what was best emotionally for his daughter. It came across to me a very selfish and cruel thing to do to a child he had already abandoned, and left quite a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if this was the directors intention, but it was what I was left with personally🤷🏾♀️.
@@Val--H a child has a need to reconnect on some level despite abandonment issues and bitterness. some of this may have been selfish on his part, but he also wanted her to know that he had cared about her and to make sure she wouldn't internalize her bitterness.
@@ironcurtainsteve There's no guarantee that she won't still internalize it. She's 17, that's a big trauma to watch your father give up on his own life and die in front of you. Especially on top of being abandoned by him which she clearly hadn't even processed and healed from. I get the way you see it. I don't think it's invalid. It's all a matter of interpretation. It's just the way the story hit me personally is that it felt way more self serving than anything else for him to try to make up for eight years of abandonment in five days with a grand gesture after deciding he would not be a part of her future at all. I'm not interested in judging his decision to not try to save his own life, but I do think the truly more loving thing would've been to leave her out of it if he wasn't even gonna try to be an actual father to her.
@@Val--H life just happens, people aren't perfect, and we do the best we can at the time. i feel that ellie will be better off in the long run having had some contact with her dad. there's a desire in most of us to have some form of redemption and understanding from the people we may have wronged. charlie's life was shattered by a combination of guilt and grief. maybe ellie (and the rest of us) can learn something by witnessing and sharing his sense of regret and woundedness.
Been looking forward to this film, hope it’s worth it. So many disappointing films lately.
Does Ellie just show up randomly? I thought Charlie texts her in that scene with the candy drawer
Please review Emily the Criminal….I would love to hear what you think! On Netflix
I watched it today, just thought it could’ve been better, was very slow moving. Brendan was great though but I agree with the 3 stars.
Requiem for a dream and mother are very good but both very sad. All these movies he made are sad
They have some realism in them and just shove the truth in your face which is why they are sad. I know life isn’t morbid but he does show you those sides of life no one really wants to mention about
@@hey-zel so true
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Is requiem for a dream exploitative for drug addicts? I'm not disagreeing just wondering what your opinion is?
You guys are good. I feel exactly the same about the movie. They needed to kill some if their darlings. The symbolism is heavy
Thanks u for the review , I just saw it and loved the movie 21:02
Me too. It was amazing. Lucky I went alone because I balked at the end.
Please review the film Inside with William DeFoe
Oh yeah…we definitely want to watch that one.
I have a huge crush on Willem to which my mom always replies, "Between him, Brad Dourif, and Crispin Glover you definitely have that weirdo type." I am not ashamed. Lol
Please review Guillermo del Toro Cabinet of Curiosities.
Yes! I'd LOVE to hear Joseph's thoughts on this series!
@@tonyabrookes9931 Yes please! That series was so good!
Now this is just my opinion!
It’s a good movie but I do not get all the hype
Brendan was good I’m just gonna say good
It’s hyped because of Brendan’s return to cinema. If he hadn’t been involved it still would’ve received attention but I don’t think as much praise
Even with BF returning to cinema this is no masterpiece
Let me clarify
@@hey-zel yep get that
Just saw this movie and I think the set up for the daughter to abruptly pop by is that she knows her dad is an English prof and she needs a passing grade. She's a user. . . that said, I liked this movie because it felt like a play. For that reason I excused the over wrought, kind of over dramatic dialogue. Usually when famous plays are turned into movies they just don't translate. This movie felt like it didn't even try to translate, it's just like watching a play. There's only one setting and 5 and a 1/2 characters (if you count Pizza Dan) lol
Yes, I didn’t know it was based on a play but quickly got that vibe
I never saw my 600 pound Life I was unaware this was a Common issue amongst Heavy people.
I will say with extreme confidence most of the clients or people have undergone some form of SA and abuse, be it in childhood or as an adult, sad but very common.
oh my. The synopsis sounds almost like a copy/paste of the Wrestler.
Both are you are so handsome
Caught this now that it had a digital release. Very uneven film. Why was it in 2016 right before the Trump years when the play is from 2012? And does it really rain that much in Idaho?
Fraser was really good though, hope he gets better roles.
Never agreed with a review more
It's Fraser, not Frasier.
Since she knows he's going to die so he can be with her brother?
never watching this movie. i know i would hate it.. happy for brendan though!
19:59 you two describe this movie to the T in such... hurry, yet isn't what you say the beauty of this film?
The longer I thought about this movie the less I have liked it and I didn't like it that much to begin with. I also do think it was exploitative, just the way with all of the gross eating noises and heavy breathing and everything, I just think he was filmed and presented like a monster. Even in the over-the-top reactions to him that you guys both described.
Watched the entire play on CZcams ... one word ... dreadful ...two words ... dreadful and contrived ... three words ... dreadful, contrived, lame.
This movie reminded me of when Tyra Banks wore a prosthetic suit to know what it felt like to be a not-skinny-girl and… i dunno… it is too much in a theater vibe and it's patronizing and corny and all the symbolism is way too heavy and on the nose…
If u NEVER watched my 600lbs life before then this might be interesting.. but for those of us who have seen the show this is kinda dull. The show is more interesting then this movie based on a play. The tv series gets into showing all the sores and it was like this make up artist was so lazy he couldn’t be bothered with doing all that so he just has Brendan Frazier’s character mention it… I mean some of the ppl on the tv show don’t even shower or they take baths outside with a hose… I was thinking showing him grooming himself was ridiculous…but anyway .. the actual show is better. At the beginning when Frazier’s character laughs like the Pillsbury dough man from Liz barely tickling him I was ready to stop watching.. that was so corny and not even necessary .. the daughter was over the top in her role..
I liked more of it than not, but the melodrama in Aronofsky's films are like a blockbuster with too much CGI. I also think Brendan Fraser's character was too prone to delusional thinking.
Discrimination and right out hate against the obese is alive and well. And accepted by many.
I love Brendan Fraser but I feel like they could have defiantly hired a fat actor instead of doing this fat suit. I thought we left the fat suits in Shallow Hal
So we are supposed to think this movie is good because the main character ate himself to death due to homophobia? WTF, why?
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Sooooo horrible (the movie) 🤣 fat lgbt+ girlies (like myself🐻🏳️🌈) really do have way more self esteem than people give credit, I get the whole point is that this all has more to do with grief but I mean it’s not like the guy couldn’t be in his daughters life by 2005-2007 times really we’re changing for the better for gay men and being fat really isn’t a life ending sentence type of thing, most of my high school teachers were on the way heavier side his weight.
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@@maddoxdriscoll168 you do realize your on a LGBT+ channel right? I’m not saying I’m a girl, LGBT+ men use girlie as a endearment term for themselves. But also being Transphobic on a LGBT+ CZcams Channel? Be fucken real get a life & get your life, goodnight pass your bedtime.
@@jacobneale5844 Lmao. Look at you getting all worked up and overreacting, throwing around the word "transphobic" like it has lost all its meaning. People nowadays throw around words without caring about what it truly means, and if it truly applies in different context. You gotta go back to school.
Requiem is a terrible film.
...and Aronofsky is an awful director.
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