New Rider Makes A Common Motorcycle Mistake

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Komentáře • 261

  • @yaqubahmed3002
    @yaqubahmed3002 Před 3 lety +87

    Im only 14 . I'm watching this so when i get a motorcycle, I'll be safe when i'm out having fun

    • @andosan5995
      @andosan5995 Před 3 lety +1

      Hope ya can get your first bike soon as possible

    • @michaelderkacz5526
      @michaelderkacz5526 Před 3 lety +3

      Ive been watching various motorcycle youtubers since i was your age. Now im 20 and just got my first bike a couple months ago. Its worth the wait!

    • @jamesrindley6215
      @jamesrindley6215 Před 3 lety +4

      You're a smart guy, I wish these types of videos had been around when I started riding. Check out MC Rider if you haven't already. And when you get a bike, don't be influenced by other young riders into going faster than you're comfortable with. You've got your whole life to build up skills if you start out slow and easy. Concentrate on awareness and observation and anticipation, be ready for anyone on the road to do anything ridiculous. Bikes are so much fun, but crashing totally sucks. It's great to ride and not crash, it's really satisfying to avoid dangerous situations on the road because you looked ahead and you saw it coming and you were ready. Have fun.

    • @yaqubahmed3002
      @yaqubahmed3002 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jamesrindley6215 Thanks man. I'll definitely check out more motorcycle channels.

    • @yaqubahmed3002
      @yaqubahmed3002 Před 3 lety +1

      @@andosan5995 thanks

  • @kadengolda2373
    @kadengolda2373 Před 3 lety +52

    You’ve helped me a ton with my training, going to go get my first bike today after months of the dmv being closed

    • @susanmaggiora4800
      @susanmaggiora4800 Před 3 lety

      Kaden Golda Congratulations, man! Be safe out there 👍

    • @aquabol1
      @aquabol1 Před 3 lety

      Congrats!!! Ride safe and have fun!

    • @markr3588
      @markr3588 Před 3 lety

      Congrats Dude! if you follow DDFM and really listen to his content, you will be miles ahead of other new riders (in terms of safety). I've been riding for years and still learn new things from Dan that I wish I knew when I started riding.✌

    • @KCDW83
      @KCDW83 Před 3 lety +1

      Have fun and take in everything you can but watching a video like this is absolutely not training.

    • @davidw4278
      @davidw4278 Před 3 lety +1

      Hey man, you're helping yourself too. Give yourself a pat on the back for deciding to be an informed rider

  • @soundsgood7757
    @soundsgood7757 Před 3 lety +23

    In addition to some of the other comments regarding his throttle and lean; He is using a low speed counterbalancing body position during his transitions which is the exact opposite of what he should be doing. At higher speeds one should be leaning to the inside to reduce the lean angle of the bike. In this case, he might have not lost traction if he simply kept a neutral (centered -no leaning) body position. Needless to say, he could have just slowed down on entry.

  • @khatdubell
    @khatdubell Před 3 lety +63

    I don't feel this is a case of outdoing what the bike can do.
    I think its more outdoing what the rider could do.

    • @jamesrindley6215
      @jamesrindley6215 Před 3 lety +5

      Yep, a TT racer could have ducked it through that road at far higher speeds and stayed in control. But this guy doesn't know how to turn the bike at speed.

    • @yaqubahmed3002
      @yaqubahmed3002 Před 3 lety +2

      Exactly!

    • @Thorbyr
      @Thorbyr Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah, you can tell from the video that he's leaning the bike while keeping his body in an upright position. He pretty much pushed his bike into the ground, while he should've been leaning his upper body much more to keep the bike upright. It looks like he's on a 125cc GSX-R and the lighter the bike, the easier it is to make that mistake.

    • @Daniiamakada
      @Daniiamakada Před 3 lety

      @@jamesrindley6215 the tires can be a big difference too

    • @jamesrindley6215
      @jamesrindley6215 Před 3 lety

      @@Daniiamakada Yes that's true, but a competent rider will stay within the limits of the tyres, and a bad rider can crash any bike on any tyres. Also, it's surprising how much grip is available from standard road tyres these days, technology has moved on a lot from the 80s when we used to be terrified in the rain. Also, a track focused sport tyre won't necessarily give you more grip unless you can get it up to temperature, which is very unlikely on the road.

  • @drummerboi841
    @drummerboi841 Před 3 lety +32

    On the Yammie scale: Beginner Squid.

    • @gcsec8811
      @gcsec8811 Před 3 lety +5

      Yammienoob? The guy who crossed a double yellow on a blind curve then crashed head on with a porche?

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy Před 3 lety +1

      @@gcsec8811 i mean, he's got noob in his name so at least he's honest.

  • @DougieOG
    @DougieOG Před 3 lety +7

    Gum trees: check.
    left side of the road: check.
    f-bomb: check.
    Australian for sure 😂

  • @Michael_Mears
    @Michael_Mears Před 3 lety +3

    Rider is in Australia, as others have pointed out. Most suburban roads are 50km/h (30mph) and 9-10km/h over the posted speed is about 5-6mph over.

  • @Tubetinkerer
    @Tubetinkerer Před 3 lety +26

    Google "The Throttle & Lean Trap" for the technical explanation by Life at Lean. It's not simply a matter of too much speed or too much lean angle.
    You can actually hear and see the biker leaning in more and twisting the throttle at the same time.
    By the way; Dan you are fun to watch at halfspeed... LOL xD

    • @khatdubell
      @khatdubell Před 3 lety +1

      This is what i was thinking as well, but wasn't 100% sure.

    • @dirkprivat5106
      @dirkprivat5106 Před 3 lety +1

      Agree

    • @RyanJamesODonnell
      @RyanJamesODonnell Před 3 lety +1

      As well as that, they kept their weight over the top of the bike - there was no need to lean the bike that far for that turn if he had moved his body to the correct side. Meaning he was less likely to get away with the early throttle.

    • @Tubetinkerer
      @Tubetinkerer Před 3 lety +2

      @@RyanJamesODonnell In the end, I think he was just going too fast for his skill level and brain to keep up.

    • @RyanJamesODonnell
      @RyanJamesODonnell Před 3 lety +1

      @@Tubetinkerer definitely

  • @brianjacobs8839
    @brianjacobs8839 Před 3 lety +3

    I don't ride motorcycle, but I watch these videos to keep myself and motorcyclists safe on the road.

  • @wickedcoolname399
    @wickedcoolname399 Před 3 lety +21

    I'll sum it up for you: Too fast.

    • @praveenpoosapati
      @praveenpoosapati Před 3 lety +3

      every video i see from him has way too much explanation. To the point where it started annoying a little bit.

    • @honeyofoats5619
      @honeyofoats5619 Před 3 lety

      Yes, he was going to fast and he was leaning to to much and that is why he fell

    • @MrTrdsmi
      @MrTrdsmi Před 3 lety

      @@honeyofoats5619 haven't watch the entire video yet,but from what I see he crashed the moment he started to accelerate and leaning to the left at the same time.. accelerating will put more weight to the rear tyre,therefore more grip at the rear and less at the front.. he needed that front grip for turning though..
      Increasing lean angle and gas at the same time is always a bad idea.

  • @AlexanderSeling
    @AlexanderSeling Před 3 lety +4

    You can see that his head is to the outside of the turn...he’s counter balancing on high speed turns which means he’s using way more lean angle than the turn even requires because he’s putting his weight to the outside of the turn. Probably wouldn’t have happened if he was leaning to the correct side. Also Dan, I’m not sure if the video doesn’t have audio but if not, can we hear the audio on these? I find it super helpful for understanding what’s going on.

  • @jayjayxpxd
    @jayjayxpxd Před 3 lety +30

    Why would u even go that fast on a round about / intersection lol

    • @jamesrindley6215
      @jamesrindley6215 Před 3 lety +11

      Coz you're a sucker that's watched max wrist and thought it'd be fine and dandy to blast around like you're immortal and have the skills of a TT racer.

    • @SUPERMOTOJAK
      @SUPERMOTOJAK Před 3 lety +2

      @@jamesrindley6215 Get back in your bubble.

    • @boozbeatz1107
      @boozbeatz1107 Před 3 lety

      Why not lol, he just cant control it

  • @TalonnGaming
    @TalonnGaming Před 3 lety +2

    Hey Dan, I’m a twenty year old and I’ve been doing a bunch of research while I’m saving for my first bike and gear. I’ve been really pushing the safety portion of my research. You amongst others I’ve been watching but you’ve really made me think differently and I feel like I’m beginning to see motorcycles like firearms. Fun as hell to have and use as long as your safe with them, and if you aren’t a fun time can turn into a fatal disaster in a heartbeat. Me and a few buddies are looking to join this community so I’ve given them your channel to watch as well.
    I love your content and look forward to riding safely and responsibly. Thanks for your concern and your teachings. I look forward to learning more.

  • @nozimoto
    @nozimoto Před 3 lety +8

    Love the new intro graphics! Love the content.

  • @Havanorange
    @Havanorange Před rokem

    Hey DDFM. My high school had Driver's Ed course for a semester. It was all about learning safety topics and driving around cones in a parking lot. The end goal was to be ready to go to the DMV and get licensed and to be a safe driver, and maybe have a discount on insurance as a bonus. When we got to drive on the expressway, the instructor said "No fast turns at higher speeds, ease into the other lane slowly.". I got it, and I often remember it when I get to that expressway on-ramp. A lot of what they taught us students about safety applies to motorcycles as well. There are many 2-wheel considerations to think about that I get from these motorcycle-focused videos. I got a lot of intuitive skills from being an avid road cyclist (riding bicycles) for many years. Anyway, thanks for all the tips and analysis you post here. I hope it's rewarding for you. I have wondered a few times why you chose to quit working as a firefighter EMT or if you still do it paid or volunteer or what. None of my business unless you want to share about it, obviously.

  • @joshsopko6584
    @joshsopko6584 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey dab. I wanted to thank you for these videos. Youve probably saved my life or limb on two seperate occasions. Bringing awareness to dafe but fun riding technique and always putting this idea first. You cant ride if you are dead or disabled.
    Thank you for all of your valuable break downs!

  • @andreiolefyrenko2046
    @andreiolefyrenko2046 Před 3 lety +14

    I don't argue with the points here well said and lower speed would not only prevent the crash but also would save him should something unexpected be in the blind area. BUT the lean was not the issue he didn't lean the bike nearly as much as it's capable of while properly handling the throttle. Adding throttle while adding lean is why his rear tire lost traction (which is clearly indicated by the bike rotating 180 degrees). If the rider simply closed the throttle or kept it steady he would've been fine. More over if he used trail braking, he could've done even higher speed with higher lean angle yet had much more grip. Summary: everyone needs to take advanced courses if they want to be faster AND safer on the motorcycle. My 2 cents as an intermediate group track rider. Thanks for making the amazing content Dan.

    • @RyanJamesODonnell
      @RyanJamesODonnell Před 3 lety

      And if he had shifted his weight to the inside, rather than starting on top of the bike!

    • @wigletron2846
      @wigletron2846 Před 3 lety

      This pretty much sums it up. He was taking the turns too quick for his skill level and gripping the grips tighter and tighter. Thus accelerating while adding lean like you said

  • @mizzprettyhuston
    @mizzprettyhuston Před 3 lety

    I'm glad you shared this video...I'm a new rider and when I am out riding with my husband I get scared that I'll slide like that when I'm going around a curve....so I will most definitely not be doing what he done wrong ....glad he's alright.

  • @NoFrictionZone
    @NoFrictionZone Před 3 lety

    Man, I did terrible on the turn from a stop drill today, need to get back at it. Thanks Dan, your videos are helping a lot!

  • @garyhalsey7693
    @garyhalsey7693 Před 3 lety

    As a motorcyclist and Bus/Coach Instructor here in the UK, I can say the following, in my opinion. This was a clear case of lack of forward planning and observation. His excessive speed into the roundabout left him insufficient time to properly plan his entry point onto the roundabout, thus his exit position caused him to go beyond his/the bike’s limits to safely exit the roundabout! Love the channel Dan and the way you objectively analyse the videos! Keep up the good work my man and ride safe!!

  • @pauljones9073
    @pauljones9073 Před 3 lety

    Dan you talk a great deal of sense. I wish all motorcyclists had to sit with you for a day- they would learn so much.
    The trouble is too much ego and no common sense.
    Take care, Paul

  • @oneman1223
    @oneman1223 Před 3 lety +1

    Boiii u helped me a LOOOT with ur videos!!🤩 getting my license was very easy because of you 🤟🏻

  • @justanotherviewer52
    @justanotherviewer52 Před 3 lety

    Thanks Dan

  • @realmtl6829
    @realmtl6829 Před 3 lety

    New rider myself, I can definitely see myself making this kind of mistake. Thanks for the info so I can iron out some of these bad habits.

  • @KnightPilot
    @KnightPilot Před 3 lety +6

    Would love to see a video on hill-starts. As a new rider, I can do just fine when the hill is straight, but if it is turning left or right from a stop sign on a hill, it gets tricky.
    I watched your video on turning from a stop in the parking lot, and this has helped a lot; but I would like to see how it is supposed to be done on an uphill, as I live in an area with many hills. Thanks :)

    • @TerrorBunney
      @TerrorBunney Před 3 lety

      I cant show you a video as there are not many hills in my area but all you have to do is make sure the bikes center of gravity stays over the wheels and not off to the side (because you will start falling sideways if thats the case). When the road is on an angle that means you bike has to be on an angle too.
      No matter how much you know about it it is gonna feel weird when you do it yourself.
      Oh and you its always better to fall uphill than downhill because you can catch yourself WAY easier uphill

    • @klsdjfkjdsalfkj
      @klsdjfkjdsalfkj Před 3 lety +5

      Just use the back brake to keep the bike static until you feel it's accelerating enough, then let off the brake.

    • @baqcasanke
      @baqcasanke Před 3 lety

      just practice. I dont think its something we can explain via text. You gotta just get out there and feel your bike and practice.

  • @rgm247
    @rgm247 Před 3 lety +1

    After watching the video, I agree with some of the previous comments, the speed, although too fast, by itself should not have caused the low-side. He was not on a cruiser with bags, etc. so the lean angle should not have been the problem either. The steering/line, although not crisp, also didn't seem to me to be the problem. If you watch the video again, at about 0:43-0:45, the rider seems to adjust his right foot, possibly positioning for applying rear brake. At that speed / lean angle, a small amount of rear brake pressure while in the turn could have dumped him. As the rider is veering back to the left to come out of the roundabout, he realizes that he is a bit fast/out of position, and I suspect that he may have applied a little rear brake. Fortunately he was wearing proper gear, which saved him from serious road rash.
    Great content DDFM

  • @timothystift8485
    @timothystift8485 Před 3 lety

    When I learned to ride my instructor made me very aware that roundabouts in general are often places where there is a possibility of oil and dirt on the road, so roundabouts are just no place to ride fast or have a lot of lean angle.

  • @flywire76
    @flywire76 Před 3 lety +1

    Straya!
    I’m glad he’s wearing his gear.

  • @johnkelley2615
    @johnkelley2615 Před 3 lety +1

    Seems like those little bikes go down so easy!!

  • @ONLYINDADECOUNTY
    @ONLYINDADECOUNTY Před 3 lety

    Dan great videos! Looks to me like it was a counter steering issue? Didn't even appear he reached max lean angle

  • @Thechist781
    @Thechist781 Před 3 lety

    I have that motorbike. I do the fox walk with it when facing situations like that especially when misty in the morning the rear tend to slip very easily sideways.

  • @smiley50ish
    @smiley50ish Před 3 lety

    think this was no1in the mix thanks for the info on it dan it was the one i voted for

  • @thewheel2023
    @thewheel2023 Před 3 lety

    Thank you

  • @llerradish
    @llerradish Před 3 lety

    This guy has probably been through this intersection many times and has slowly increased his speed and confidence to the point where he didn't make smooth transitions and maybe hit some painted lines or substance on the road and pushed past the the traction limits of the tire.

  • @giodc8599
    @giodc8599 Před 3 lety +1

    By the way, Dan, the video is from Australia. Speed is in Kph :) keep up the great work.

  • @JimmyvanW
    @JimmyvanW Před 3 lety +1

    Nice video but In the video it says the link to this training is in the description but I can't find it??

  • @deaks25
    @deaks25 Před 3 lety

    One thing I noticed was the left hand lift off the bar, which makes me think the rider thought about slowing down at that moment (Which would probably have been fine), but then held the throttle open, so arrived at the roundabaout much faster than he was obviously comfortable, which is a situation that invites an incident.
    A great piece of advice I've seen in relation to car racing is to think about grip as a shared resource; the harder you brake, the less grip left for turning, if you're turning, there is less grip for accelerating etc and if you go over the maximum available, you go off, and it looks like this rider hits that limit. At various points he's trying to brake, turn and even power on all the same time. The suspension is being loaded then unloaded, which means he's removed the ability of the tyre to grip. I think the white vehicle on the other side of the road on the exit distracts him and he might have hit the rear brake after having powered on and being fully leant over and it just overcomes the tyres grip.
    Looks like a lot of inexperience or going beyond his comfort zone, thankfully his bike and gear all eat it and he's able to jump up and get off the road immediately, which is good; he ignores the bike and is concerned with making sure he's safe, off the road and there's no traffic.

  • @rainerlovesjapan9468
    @rainerlovesjapan9468 Před 3 lety +1

    Australia. Looks similar to a street nearby🤔

  • @reallyoldfart6540
    @reallyoldfart6540 Před 3 lety

    For some reason I thought of Maoris hanging out the windows of a Mini going around a roundabout, which was kind of funny. Doesn't look like he was hanging weight off; what it looked like looking at his right knee.

  • @joeyliutkus9717
    @joeyliutkus9717 Před 3 lety

    There seem to be some bare trees before the intersection. Is it possible this was late spring? Besides the speed, of it was a cool day you’d less traction, which could also be a reason for the crash.

  • @theprodigalstranger5259

    @dandanthefireman like the swanky new intro

  • @thedriver2475
    @thedriver2475 Před 3 lety +4

    Could be mph, the sign on the right just before the roundabout is a UK national speed limit sign.

    • @willjoseph9004
      @willjoseph9004 Před 3 lety +2

      Defs Australia

    • @keithlw1873
      @keithlw1873 Před 3 lety +2

      Will Joseph exactly. I was 90% sure it was Australia when I saw the trees. The “faark” when he crashed definitely confirmed it.

    • @thedriver2475
      @thedriver2475 Před 3 lety +1

      @@keithlw1873 after my second look the road markings are not UK plus I was thinking that I've never seen national speed limit on approach of a roundabout.

  • @CaptainFancy
    @CaptainFancy Před 3 lety

    Might of hit a bit of desiel spill perhaps? Common on roundabouts. Looks like that's in the UK. Mph.

  • @MrMaucool1
    @MrMaucool1 Před 3 lety

    This is a great quality video it's very well explained and edited. Greetings from 🇬🇹 Guatemala DanDan, I am starting a youtube channel in spanish, I want to know if it's allright for me to use the Smart tag on my videos and explain it to people. If you read this thank you and than you for the great videos!

  • @FrancoNepomuceno
    @FrancoNepomuceno Před 3 lety

    Have you ever got the AAR of the white Harley that crashed at LA (Mulholland drive)? Rnickey's vid

  • @peterkacandes5905
    @peterkacandes5905 Před 3 lety +35

    He’s not countersteering at all. Dude flat out doesn’t know how to turn at speed. He’s turning the bars like he’s going 5 mph in a parking lot.

    • @halleffect1
      @halleffect1 Před 3 lety

      good call, i didn't notice that at first

    • @mikemcclernon5784
      @mikemcclernon5784 Před 3 lety +1

      Pretty sure [doing it wrong]!

    • @jaro7180
      @jaro7180 Před 3 lety

      Yes! I don't see any countersteering at all neither... I love DDTF videos but I think he did bad job at this one.

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy Před 3 lety +2

      @Peter@@jaro7180 lol, did you guys not see him lean left then right then left again? all of those were accomplished with counter steering. take this youtube analyzing easy, eh. when you're moving quick you make tiny inputs.

    • @helderbruno2831
      @helderbruno2831 Před 3 lety +1

      @@0xsergy lol they are lost... meanwhile the other guy loosing traction can be for 1000 reasons...to much lean with cold tires, can be oil, can be suspension, if he was 60km/h is normal speed...you can see he knows the road and he flicks the bike fast...that day didnt whent as planned lol! Nothing related with countersteering

  • @dallas7346
    @dallas7346 Před 3 lety +15

    I could be wrong but it also appears the rider was steering and not counter steering.

    • @Tubetinkerer
      @Tubetinkerer Před 3 lety +1

      You try steering at that speed....
      And even if he could, he would have highsided. So... no, very unlikely.

    • @jamesrindley6215
      @jamesrindley6215 Před 3 lety +1

      ​@@Tubetinkerer Actually, you can't steer at any speed. A bike turns by counter steering, whether it's at 2mph or 200mph.

    • @ninja1970fin
      @ninja1970fin Před 3 lety

      Thats what I was seeing too

    • @Tubetinkerer
      @Tubetinkerer Před 3 lety +4

      @@jamesrindley6215 True, but I think Dallas meant "turning the handlebars". And you can try doing that at any speed, but it won't take you were you want to go.

    • @krzysztofmichalski1527
      @krzysztofmichalski1527 Před 3 lety

      @@jamesrindley6215 thats straight up not true

  • @abc456f
    @abc456f Před 3 lety

    I see so many videos of low siding and it's not always apparent to me why it happens. In this case, Dan is saying it's too much speed. I've seen other ones where the speed seems fine, but the bike still just slides out from underneath the rider. What are some other reasons for low siding? As a newbie, it's something I want to avoid. Thanks.

  • @akad30
    @akad30 Před 3 lety

    Definitely from Australia

  • @infinitreality
    @infinitreality Před 3 lety +1

    Looks like a residential zone in Australia which is 50kph only 10 over legally. Used to be 60kph in residential 10 years ago, alot of people still drive them at 60

    • @gerardmontgomery280
      @gerardmontgomery280 Před 3 lety +1

      Either that or UK (20/30mph) or Republic of Ireland (50kph). I don't think it's the UK though because there's no way that's 60mph.

    • @infinitreality
      @infinitreality Před 3 lety +1

      @@gerardmontgomery280 That "Fuck It" was definitely Australian LOL

    • @gerardmontgomery280
      @gerardmontgomery280 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah ok I'll give you that 😂

  • @MotoMiles
    @MotoMiles Před 3 lety

    T-CLOCS..good old e course...I’m on it..

  • @unhappyrenaultclient
    @unhappyrenaultclient Před 3 lety

    The roundabouts exits have ALWAYS gravel on the edges, I always slow down and keep on the center of the lane. Riding fast in roundabouts is Russian Roulette.

  • @RividGamer
    @RividGamer Před 3 lety

    Frame sliders IS A MUST. Insta buy.

  • @neojd7583
    @neojd7583 Před 3 lety

    Damn the gsxr 150. What a monster in low cc ❤️❤️

  • @simonthomas5367
    @simonthomas5367 Před 3 lety

    Hey Dan. That's in the UK so wayyyy to fast! Did you also notice the terrible road positioning? Too wide for all three turn manoeuvres? And the low light indicates a typical UK foggy morning which means damp road surfaces. This guy would have done his A2 bike licence training and would have been told about all these things several times.

  • @bacevs
    @bacevs Před 3 lety

    It's KMPH, as it's in Australia. That particular road is Copperfield Drive, Delahey, Victoria and it's a 50kmph speed limit. That roundabout isn't so bad and I'm surprised he's come off doing under 60kmph as it's takeable at 80kmph.
    This roundabout has had its fair share of idiots dumping oil around it and the fire brigade has been out on numerous occasions in the past to clean it up.

  • @AbdurrahmanZedSaeed
    @AbdurrahmanZedSaeed Před 3 lety

    we dont do training on a parking lot, because we dont have it in indonesia. we do it on a field, grass field.

  • @ktg612
    @ktg612 Před 3 lety

    When I grow up. I want to have a CZcams channel just like yours.

  • @AVweb
    @AVweb Před 3 lety +2

    If it's KPH--which it appears to be--that's 32 MPH on the entry. Not exactly crazy fast. I wonder if got a little traction loss off the white road paint, which he caught in a pretty aggressive transition. Other have said he wasn't countersteering, but I don't see that.

    • @boozbeatz1107
      @boozbeatz1107 Před 3 lety

      I think it was moh he was going too fast for 30 mph that would be easy at that speed, but he was going faster judging by the slide at the end

    • @MrSkinnyWhale
      @MrSkinnyWhale Před 3 lety +2

      100% it's miles

    • @noid919
      @noid919 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MrSkinnyWhale He's riding on the left and has an aussie accent - it's definitely kilometers (I'm an aussie and recognise the road too).

    • @noid919
      @noid919 Před 3 lety

      @@Xombic0780 Looks like 60 kays to me - through a Gopro. There's no way he's doing 100 though. I ride on the road (ZX10) and he's not taking that roundabout at 100kph.

    • @GrubbyPaddler
      @GrubbyPaddler Před 3 lety

      There are a few countries that drive on left and use miles... ie uk... but this one is Aussie... we love roundabouts.... we govern our nation from a roundabout

  • @jaywhoisit4863
    @jaywhoisit4863 Před 3 lety

    Round A-bouts are notorious for being slippery with dripped oil and thousands of tyres scuffing the tarmac smooth. Always slow down for these things.

  • @even7steven
    @even7steven Před 3 lety +2

    Acceleration + lean = lowside. Everytime

  • @stonesour230
    @stonesour230 Před 3 lety

    Assuming his camera is on a chest mount, his bad body position for the speed he was trying to take that turn deserves an honorable mention as well 😬

  • @thesoapster
    @thesoapster Před 3 lety +1

    Adding throttle and lean angle at the same time = way more stress, and increased chance of losing grip

  • @ryano3123
    @ryano3123 Před 3 lety

    Got a bike 2 days ago parking lots only for now

  • @redo1dr
    @redo1dr Před 3 lety

    Still shook about the fact that theres no licensing system for motorcycles in the US, luckily there's people like you providing all the info for sane people. You cant learn to drive on a parking lot and you shoudlnt start out driving without being taken by the hand in the beginnig imo.

    • @dillonh321
      @dillonh321 Před 3 lety

      The fact that every state has a slightly different license system, even for cars doesn't help. A 250 cc class, 600 cc class and 1000cc class is a good system in my opinion. Not to restrictive but good enough

  • @Yoda8945
    @Yoda8945 Před 3 lety

    He had his shoulders on the wrong side of the bike, forcing the bike into a sharper lean angle rather than less lean angle. That bike was perfectly capable of that corner at that speed. The rider was not. Hanging off would have prevented this crash, but that is a learned function of riding.

  • @spar8334
    @spar8334 Před 3 lety

    This reminds me my tires are almost bald on my bike

  • @miltonzinn8732
    @miltonzinn8732 Před 3 lety

    I owned a GSX-R, that looked closer to 60 mph, but I’m not sure if England does mph or Kph. Either way, he carried WAYYYYY too much speed into that corner. Even joyriding I would only do that at 2/3 speed of what he did. Normal would have been half. Keep the shiny side up bro

  • @robertsole9970
    @robertsole9970 Před 3 lety

    He should have loaded up the front wheel. He was too far back in the seat which made the front end light and it had no bite to steer.

  • @munayata38
    @munayata38 Před 3 lety

    Throttle or add lean. Just pick one

  • @88888888Rocket1
    @88888888Rocket1 Před 3 lety +1

    Honestly, I think you are wrong. This fellow was not going to fast nor did he lean the bike over too far.
    I believe he stepped on the back break and lost traction on the rear tire. 50 km/h is only 30 mph. Let’s be honest, he is on a sports bike that can handle the radius of those curves at that speed with absolutely no problem at all. Yes, there was a loss of traction but it was not a result of too much inertia.
    You’re right most of the time, keep doing what you’re doing.

    • @khgriffi
      @khgriffi Před 3 lety

      It looks like he’s going faster than 30 mph imo

    • @88888888Rocket1
      @88888888Rocket1 Před 3 lety

      khgriffi .... I believe he was going to 59 km/h on the straightaway before the traffic circle and 52 km/h in the traffic circle. That’s 30 miles an hour. (you can see the speedometer)
      I think he was going to little wide when he exited and ended up with a a little panic step on the back brake. That’s why the back end of the bike immediately broke traction and ended up spinning right around.

  • @Chrisjodway
    @Chrisjodway Před 3 lety +6

    Way to fast for a roundabout

    • @smiley50ish
      @smiley50ish Před 3 lety +1

      think this guy needs a track day

    • @youarewinston
      @youarewinston Před 3 lety +1

      Sports bike taking that roundabout at 55 should be easy he was just leaning over aggressively rather than being smooth

    • @infinitreality
      @infinitreality Před 3 lety +1

      He could have taken a fairly straight line a lot faster than that if he didn't try to be a street Rossi

    • @Chrisjodway
      @Chrisjodway Před 3 lety +1

      smiley50ish never rode track but I wouldn’t take a roundabout that fast In Ann Arbor cause they’re more curved and cars are quick

    • @Chrisjodway
      @Chrisjodway Před 3 lety

      Winston Peters thanks for the tip bro

  • @lovepcgaming2335
    @lovepcgaming2335 Před 3 lety

    He didn't lean his body into the corner. He treated it like a 5mph turn. That's why the rear came out. He could have gone quite a bit faster with proper lean and warm tires.

  • @Apollo949
    @Apollo949 Před 3 lety

    The rider was switching from left to right while under power which is a recipe for disaster especially on a roundabout with oil on the road. He should have throttled down, slowed and let his momentum take him forward. Great video to warn new riders of this folly. Thanks Dan Dan.
    (48 years experience).

    • @timclark3914
      @timclark3914 Před 3 lety

      Body position as key in this situation. Leaning the bike far right, your head and body should be on the right side mirror but is body and head is on the left mirror while leaning right. (3 years of logical experience)

  • @assemragab6972
    @assemragab6972 Před 3 lety

    I'm hearing him accelerate on his way out. That could be a big part of why he lost traction as well

  • @xraybeaver4
    @xraybeaver4 Před 3 lety

    This is shot in the UK so it’s MPH 👌🏼

  • @Marcus_from_OZ
    @Marcus_from_OZ Před 3 lety

    99% sure it's Australia (from the accent and the trees), so 60kph (37mph), 50kph (31mph) through the roundabout.

  • @loreljacq5744
    @loreljacq5744 Před 3 lety

    It's Mph uk England or Australia.

  • @tomwatson9032
    @tomwatson9032 Před 3 lety

    "FUCK!" He should have been jumping for joy that he didn't get it a lot worse.

  • @danielkenny161
    @danielkenny161 Před 3 lety

    Look again at this because It was one or both tires hit the painted lines while turning in the turn. Period. Always watch how you cross the painted lines and tires must have good rubber to adhere to the payment.

  • @alloring9928
    @alloring9928 Před 3 lety

    I'm thinking tires not up to temp. Should be an easy curve to take at that speed..

    • @TerrorBunney
      @TerrorBunney Před 3 lety

      He didnt lean into the turns. Instead he kept his upper body straight up causing the bike to have a bigger lean angle than necessary. Had he leaned into the turns there would've been 0 problems

    • @nickiebanchou
      @nickiebanchou Před 3 lety

      it's not a curve but a roundabout, surfaces may change twice while you get through those

  • @CornratedGhost
    @CornratedGhost Před 3 lety

    Dan you forgot to mention how stiff he was. His body position. Lower stomach/lower part of chest should’ve been on the tank. Even at that speed it’s still an attainable turn.

  • @dalevoigt8612
    @dalevoigt8612 Před 3 lety

    Slow look press and roll failed him. If you look at the first arc around this multi corner turn he was spot on and would have been good standing the bile up with acceleration. Yet by rolling on the throttle there, he lengthened the suspension changing the bikes turning radius for the next part of the corner. This also unweighted the front tire making the turn harder for the bike. Bad body position also contributed to this making the bike lean more than it should.

  • @zenec_
    @zenec_ Před 3 lety

    my god this intro ;)

  • @komerka35
    @komerka35 Před 3 lety

    Driving on the left side of the road so I think it's miles per hour, right?

    • @thecommentator6694
      @thecommentator6694 Před 3 lety +1

      Not neccessarily, some places such as Australia drive on the left but use KMPH. In the UK it is left hand lane and MPH, but the two don't always go hand-in-hand.

  • @JarodShapiro
    @JarodShapiro Před 3 lety

    He hit the painted triangle at the end of that curb and probably lost traction from the stripes or debree

  • @E-Naut
    @E-Naut Před 3 lety +1

    If he would’ve positioned his body on the inside he could’ve made this at the speed he’s going an I right?

    • @michaelwinn9680
      @michaelwinn9680 Před 3 lety +3

      Lean angle wasn't the problem in this example. If you listen to the bike before he lowsides you can hear him accelerate. Because he's accelerating and leaning the bike decently at the same time it caused the bike to lose traction. I suggest looking into life at lean's video on this for a more detailed explanation. :)

  • @Merkaba954
    @Merkaba954 Před 3 lety

    It's really hard to tell but I feel like that was MPH. 55kph is 35 mph and that appears way faster than 35.

  • @shannonchurchill4556
    @shannonchurchill4556 Před 3 lety

    I feel this is simply a case of too much speed putting the rider off of the good pavement and onto the marbles. I had a similar near incident going a little quick through a traffic rounder and getting slightly offline and onto dirty pavement. Where his line through the right hander put him on exit of the left, almost at the painted line by the curbing, I would bet he simply had his tires on dirty pavement. When that happened to me, I felt the front end start to go, and only decades of experience on dirt bikes, mountain bikes and street bikes kept me from making a panic move long enough to save it, but it was real close... But again, excessive speed put this rider off line to begin with as it did me.

  • @nickiebanchou
    @nickiebanchou Před 3 lety

    recklessness was a factor... largely!

  • @KaijuAlert
    @KaijuAlert Před 3 lety

    A modern bike, with modern tyres in good condition, should easily take a roundabout at 33mph.

  • @Wolf-zl8pw
    @Wolf-zl8pw Před 3 lety

    Ride carefully people .. ride carefully

  • @XJwolf4
    @XJwolf4 Před 3 lety

    Its kilometers, I haven't seem any countries that drive on that side of the road and it be MPH

  • @thewrongbike7709
    @thewrongbike7709 Před 3 lety

    NoPE! Its UK, so definitely 60 Miles per hour in a 30 zone. It looks like 30 too. NO Power on while adding lean Also He runs wide onto the gravel in the middle of the road. He could have saved it if he had reduced the power and leaned his bode instead of the bike.
    Apart from full gear, the thing that saved him is Europe's motorcycle laws that restricts new riders to 125cc. In the USA he would be on a much heaver bike, at a higher speed and into that tree. Hopefully he is healthy, much wiser and it didn't look too costly. Its really an indication of why riders shouldn't start out on big bikes.

    • @crunchytheclown9694
      @crunchytheclown9694 Před 3 lety

      Australia bud

    • @thewrongbike7709
      @thewrongbike7709 Před 3 lety +1

      @@crunchytheclown9694 I'll take your word for it. The road markings look UK but I suppose its a common. history. 60KPF then. wow!

  • @user-jb5hu2wr3t
    @user-jb5hu2wr3t Před 3 lety

    0:23 jump right in, wait wait wait - 0:41 he actually moves on with his uber slow video....

  • @Chitario
    @Chitario Před 3 lety

    Yeah he was going definitely too fast for a roundabout..but...
    The lean angle was not the problem there. His bike can handle even more. He either had very bad tires, or he hit the front brake when he was leaning which made him crash.
    Probably should have steered less and instead shift his weight more to the left, then he would have made it

  • @DerekTJ
    @DerekTJ Před 3 lety

    Hey, great channel. I have an idea for a video that I've been looking for: older new learners. I'm 49, and still wishing to get my first bike. Is there commonality amongst older learners in the mistakes they make, bearing in mind that we bring our decades of car experience?
    Younger drivers are new to both, so have to learn it all, but older car drivers may develop misconceptions about what it's like to ride. I hope this makes sense as a question/idea!

  • @australianbleach8594
    @australianbleach8594 Před 3 lety

    So this is australia. The speed is 59kmh which is actually not to bad since streets like this usually have a 50-55 limit. Hes dumb for not slowing down and all that still

  • @user-jb5hu2wr3t
    @user-jb5hu2wr3t Před 3 lety

    this genius can't even tell if it is km's or miles /hour

  • @shadowbatjack
    @shadowbatjack Před 3 lety

    That's a roundabout, you're potentially supposed to yield to a vehicle. That's way too fast to be going there.