I am a Dodger fan and I wouldn't wish this type of injury on anyone this looked bad but this is Buster Posey he came back stronger than ever and this injury look like it didn't affect his career I am just glad that he is doing well
+Nicki9202 Absolutely, at the end of the day it's baseball, and no one wants to see anyone get hurt regardless of the uniform. You excited for the new season? Its gonna be a 3 team dog fight for the NL West with the Dodgers, Dbacks and Giants, and one of the two who doesn't win it will be a wildcard, if not both. NL West is the toughest division in baseball period and whoever wins it each year earns it.
+Ples Young You try tagging a runner who is sprinting at 15-20 miles/hour and spears you head on at full speed with a helmet breaking your leg and several torn ligaments almost ending your career. See how YOU like it...
He didn't spear him, do you even know what that means? If you're covering the plate you're automatically in the wrong, runners get an unimpeded path to the plates, standing in front of it before you even start to catch the ball just means you're an idiot.
Brandon Vossekuil Contreras tagging out dodger player at home & getting called out then safe from New York on the "Buster Posey" rule 7:13.. brought me here
I’m wondering why this was ok for so long no one cared what could happen to the catcher until Posey gets injured then all of the sudden they care and make a change. No care for all the catchers before him?
This story had a happy ending. Posey won MVP the next year after missing the rest of 2011. He was lights out for 5 straight years following this play. The rules were changed to prevent this sort of barreling play, something invented by Pete Rose and which should have been outlawed much earlier. The catcher is also no longer permitted to block the baseline in an egregious manner before he has the ball. So it all came out for the best.
I think the rule should have been that way from day one about no standing on the plate or in the baseline though. Pete Rose did not cause this rule change though. He did that in 1970 I think. He did what any player should do when the plate is blocked.
Jake the Snake wore it better I think. Probably the hardest dome shot I have ever seen in baseball. Buster pussy just has weakass ankles that shot Jake put on Lucroy would have knocked out Tyson.
These types of full-on collisions in baseball were never going to fly in today's sports world due to health issues like CTE becoming more well-known. All Posey's injury did was speed up the process of making the MLB adapt.
If you pause the video at :37 you can clearly see that a) Posey isn't blocking the plate and there is a lane to slide and b) Cousins dives toward Posey with the intention of dislodging the ball. He even said in interviews, he had to decide if he was going to slam him before he even left third base.
Posey wasn’t even blocking the plate. The outside of the play was open for a dive in slide. Posey was in proper position, Cousins just decided to veer in and blow him up. Cant stand when people blame Posey for this injury and subsequent rule change.
A slide wasn't the effective play here though. Although, if the runner knew Posey didn't have the ball, I'm sure he would've slid or gotten in there without such a play.
@@thecaynuck4694 You only blow the catcher up when he’s either totally blocking off the plate, or he has the ball waiting for you. Cousins veered over into Posey unnecessarily. Being allowed to football tackle a catcher who isn’t even able to protect himself should never have been allowed in the first place. Even in football you cant just level the punt returner while hes looking up at the sky.
Whenever i see a runner absolutely demolish a catcher like this. I want the runner to know how it feels. I would like to see the runner in the gear and posey running full speed at him
I never got why people thought it was badass when players take hits in football. Especially a receiver catching a ball, getting ready to turn upfield, and getting drilled. It's not impressive. One guy is at a virtual standstill, he has ZERO momentum, the other is going full speed with all the momentum.
Except that Cousins was a cup of coffee in MLB, while Posey had a 12-year HOF career. Besides, what other person would do what Cousins did? Unnecessary, intent to injure. Even the NHL would have penalized that.
@@addison.maddison umm... Cousins was trying to score. In this scenario, the way of scoring at the time was to dislodge the ball from the catcher's mitt. Sucks that Posey got hurt, but you can't blame Cousins of mal-intent.
I'm here after Buster announced retirement age 34! This collision rightly changed the game. Big crush collisions at home plate are history now. Although it was the norm then, Collins slanting left and diving into Posey when he could have dove straight towards the plate on a clear line. Posey came back had a huge year this year after a year of rest through Covid. Catchers and players in any sport are not video game characters.
He did not slant left very much. He just braced for contact with his left shoulder. Posey for some reason was not able to get out of the way and almost looked like he resigned himself to have contact and swivled into the base path without the ball Why get out of the way? Because he did not have the baseball and no way to tag out runner so why try to make contact.
@@zebman9228 Posey didn't know he'd dropped the ball. He was beginning to sweep the tag toward where the runner was originally headed. Cousins shifted his movement away from this path and shifted his weight completely into the catcher, making no attempt to touch the plate on the initial approach.
Are u serious? Where would u like him to slide? Posy was in front of the entire plate. It's simple. U don't want to get plowed then don't block the plate at all. There was never a problem so this rule didn't need to be changed. It was always left up to the catcher. If u had balls u blocked the plate at if not u didn't. There was tons of unnecessary hits back in the day but this is not one of them.
@@JoeSmith-dl9ok Posada deserves to be in the hall of fame and is a better catcher than Posey, but maybe he’s a youngster and Posada wasn’t his era. I’m picking Posey over Gary Sanchez or any of the one and done catchers the Yankees had after Posada retired.
this bush league play cost Posey about 5 years off the end of his career. all things considered still one of the best all around catchers to ever play the game and a hall of famer.
Ketsen the bit on lucroy was intentional. He dropped his shoulder into the guys skull and stepped up toward the catcher when he stepped up. Guy needs big suspension.
Lmao people saying this ruined the game... you all realize catcher collisions didn't happen that often? Also, if I wanna see a player go out of his way to tackle someone I'll just watch football.
The collisions not happening it fine by me but the fact that it is up to,the umpire if you are guarding the baseline or plate as the catcher leaves it up,to,opinion not skill or performance since different umps see it different ways
It wasn’t that this single rule ruined baseball, it’s just that this rule gave way to all the other rules that ruin the game. Can’t collide at home, can’t slide hard into a base, replay rule, etc
They don't happen that often but also happen to be the most pivotal game changing plays in the game. The difference between a run and an out on the lead runner...
It’s what made baseball what it is why tamper with it? That’s what made the game fun and interesting baseball is for pussies now and everyone is afraid of running into each other
@@kalebstuckey570he didn't come close to blocking the plate. He is out in front of the plate and turns to make the tag where the player should be trying to slide but instead decides to go wrestlemania on him with a Bill Goldberg spear.
SFGiantsMatt this was what all runners would have done, back then this was part of the game. This time somebody got hurt and they made a rule change. You have to realize this is what runners did, if you weren’t gonna make it you ran into the catcher to get the ball loose, Cousins did what was a regular at the time and accidentally injured Posey. Then he receives DEATH THREATS FOR AN ACCIDENT.
@@Flowerz__ What are you supposed to contact him with? If I'm going to run into him, I'm going to lead with whatever part of my body is least likely to get injured.
Not even sure how people can say buster was blocking the lane. He was in front of the plate his left leg wasn't even on the lane. This was pure intentional head hunting. That being said, the rule should be modified to keep both the runner and catcher accountable. If it is clear runner is targeting, then he should be called out and be fined. If the catcher chooses to block then lane, then it's fair game.
I went to this game. I was only 4 years old i did not know what happened but i just saw posey on the ground and than started walking to the dugout. But 8 years later he eventually got his first grand slam in 4 years
Fun to listen to the argument between you all. Here's my read. 1) From a philosophical point of view, the point of the runner is to get to home plate, but the runner makes no effort to get to home and instead just runs full speed into the catcher. In terms of "what the game is supposed to be about," it makes sense to make what the runner did illegal. 2) Now, that slide will be illegal, in part because it's an improper slide. On a headfirst slide you need to hit the ground first. 3) Had the slide been legal, and Posey turned without the ball to make the tag, the runner would be safe because Posey was blocking the way to the plate without the ball (whether the runner touched home or not). 4) I wonder if any runners are going to get hurt by sliding into catchers ready to lay down some beats. Broken ankle, anyone? 5) At some level, this isn't going to change baseball this much. If you're going to send the runner, it's because you think he can beat the ball to the plate, not run through the catcher to force a drop. I'm ok with that.
cousins legit went for posey. watch 0:37 to 0:39 in 0.25 speed and you can see the angle he was running at was toward posey (who was IN FRONT of the plate) instead of the actual home base. it probably wasn't intentional but still - shitty nonetheless
dodger fan here.. and that was quite a collision. i just wish they didnt change the rules though. i understand wanting to protect the players, but Garciaparra put it best. he said something like "second basemen and short stops dont get pads while turning double plays, so there should be no rule changes at home plate."
+J Phoenix Do runners regularly truck shortstops? Has anyone ever trucked a shortstop? How are these situations comparable? If the runner was allowed to tackle the shortstop to break up a double play, then sure, they might be comparable. However, they have to slide towards the base without putting their feet up, allowing the shortstop to jump over them.
MY OPINION is that it was a clean hit, everything was fine, the only problem was posey didnt have time to brace for it. Even looks like he thought he had the ball for a second and tried to make the tag.
Posey clearly wasn't in the way. His back may have been obstructing the path by a few inches, but that batter had no reason to body slam him. If you watch closely, that batter intentionally angled to the left in order to hit Posey
@@joshuahsmith8192 It wasn't either of their faults. It's just part of the game. At least the runner respected Buster enough to be the first one to make sure he was okay... both players were very sympathetic about it going forward. Handled it professionally.
@@henryrodenburg9312 It's tough to tell in real game time. Cousins had to run full speed on a tag up. It wasn't either of their faults. It's just part of the game. At least the runner respected Buster enough to be the first one to make sure he was okay...
@@henryrodenburg9312Same play in the video below, nobody got hurt, dusted themselves off, went to their dugouts, this was part of the game, nothing illegal then, czcams.com/video/iEVqY25ODdM/video.html
Yo I'm kinda new to baseball (started playing and watching in late 2018) but um I dont get how "good" Posey was... was he like realmuto good? Cause I've never seen him play at the level people talk about (like how people mention 2012 and stuff)
@@gio7591 Mvp Hall of fame gold glover 300 batting average and 30 homers a year which was bigger then than now. So yeah, I'd say buster was better in his prime.
The fact of the matter is, this is a players livelihood. If there was ever a way to protect players towards having longer careers even after retirement, then people should be all for that. This was a play that could have ended Posey's career and it's even amazing he was able to come back from this and still play at a world series champion and all-star caliber level. As a fan, I wanna see this type of player play for 15 years rather than cut it short with an excuse like "well, its just part of the game." As a parent, you want kids looking up to players like posey because they are true professionals that play the game hard and carry themselves professionally on and off the field. If you guys want contact, please indulge yourselves in the other contact sports that are out there like football or ice hockey. If you can't get enough, then please records these games or have long nights on youtube watching highlights of collisions throughout the years. But, my god, even those sports have tried to prioritize player safety as a necessity. So my question to you is this, what makes baseball any different?
I'm a Yankees fan. I'm happy they made the new rules. This is a sport played with honor and respect. This is NOT wrestling where you enjoy athletes getting hurt.
This is why you don’t fold your legs under when you’re gonna get hammered-you squat, just like you always do when you catch, so when you get hit you go backwards ass over tea kettle, not folded over on your legs. The injury was his fault
I saw him reaching for the plate after he PLOWED Posey...Guys a bully, this ISNT FOOTBALL! Not ok for ANONE TO CHEER FOR A MAJOR INJURY, LIKE THE RAPTORS FANS DID TO KEVIN DURANT!
@@micheleclark59 he did go to check on him and the reason why this is famous is because they made a rule to prevent this. getting clobbered was just part of the game back then
I was at this game. Giants were down big and we left early. Heard the crowd roaring when walking to the car. Ended up watching Posey get injured from the bar, they wouldn't let us back in the game 🤦🏽♂️😖
I think in the era were in now people forget just how physical baseball really used to be. Whether you agree with the changes or not - it's clear its changed whenever you watch old clips.
I'm a catcher, and that's a tough area to be in... It wasn't either of their faults. It's just part of the game. At least the runner respected Buster enough to be the first one to make sure he was okay...
Why would he dive into him? Posey had like a quarter of the box, Cousins, had the rest. A facefirst slide would've been fine. I can't help but notice this the more I watch this video. It also gets more noticeably pointless to collide with Posey the more I watch this.
No matter how much of a giants fan I am, Posey should not have been standing there...Cousins couldnt stop he had too much momentum going, it was a fair play...just a horrid situation.
Where should a catcher stand? In the dugout? The runner had a clear shot at the plate, behind the catcher. Instead, he ran into the catcher. It was intentional, and completely avoidable.
Buster was in the right place. Cousins was outside of the correct slide area and missed the bag. He touched it after. It was a dirty move to throw your self at the catcher to get the ball out of the glove.
On documentaries, if he had slid, he could've bene tagged if Posey had the ball. The runner didn't know Posey had dropped the ball, and had no choice but to hope to break up the play with that momentum. Cousins was very apologetic and felt Posey's pain. They both got through it and Posey had a positive attitude towards it.
Look I feel bad for the guy, but look how Posey's set up. he dosent have a solid fundemental base, thats why he got hurt not the hit. it was nothing malicious, Posey's got nobody to blame but himself. and now they are changing the rules of baseball for this one play, give me a break
For all the stupid arrogant people saying that Posey ruined the game. None of you are true baseball fans. I am a catcher and in the heat of the moment, in the situation he was in I can guarantee you that I would have done the same thing he wasn't in the right position and went to do his job GET THE OUT and the worst outcome came but he was playing game who it is supposed to be played and no one should blame posey for this
After watching it again I change my statement a little bit he was not in the BEST position the only place he could go was he back corner of the plate or be he could have done what he did for NO REASON
I know it hurt the game I'm not sayin it didn't I'm saying it's not posey's fault everyone's blaming him for something that he had no power in controlling
If you're referring to the game ending, because Jose Bautista interfered with the second baceman trying to throw to first. That shyt deserved to be called.
Completely legal play at the time. Whether it was dirty or not isn't a factor. When you play the catcher position, you know in the back of your head that a collision at the plate and risking injury is a succinct possibility. Obviously with the new rule, the intentional collision is no longer an issue.
Why? I am a Atlanta Braves fan. And if a Brave did that. I would be so super pissed off at him. Wtf was that for? To nearly retire Buster Posey that day? Scott Cousins why?
I don't blame posey but I am going to miss home plate collisions they were one of the most exciting things in baseball it was nice and refreshing because baseball is not super high contact like football but home plate collisions were exhilarating...
This is part of the game. Yes they just created a new rule to combat this, but anybody who knows the history of baseball knows that this was part of the game. There is nothing wrong about knocking the catcher over to make him lose the ball once he catches it. Posey prematurely moved in front off the plate. Cousins did hit him with the intent of knocking the ball out, which he thought posey had. Anyone saying this is dirty obviously hasn't watched baseball.
Cousins still gets flack for this?! Why is this play that would've been almost routine even 10 years ago now leading to a change that robs all future fans of getting to see one of the best plays in baseball? Guys like Rose, Mantle and Dykstra have slowly been replaced by multimillionaire pantywaists who prefer to jeopardize the outcome of the game rather than their physical comfort. This rule is baseball's version of the NFL's new joke of a kickoff spot. Playing a professional sport (something many would do for minimum wage) for millions of dollars a year is a choice. People are starting to forget that.
Mlb had to just keep digging the whole deeper after their great white hope got a little banged up. It's insane how the sport went from fun and entertaining to a weird snoozefesr in less than two decades. I'd really like for baseball to make a comeback or just die off completely.
He only got hurt because he was set up wrong. A catcher is supposed to be in a crouched position on the balls of his feet. Posey had his foot laying flat on the ground so that when his body went backwards it stretched and broke his ankle. Unfortunate as this may have been, it was completely legal as it should be.
How was he set up wrong? He was IN FRONT of home plate towards the pitchers mound!!! The runner clearly goes out of his way to plow him over. You're so fucking stupid it hurts
Vincent James Dude you’re a Giants fan you have no say on this shit. He is right. And why the fuck are you replying to a comment 5 years ago. Get the fuck out
I am a Dodger fan and I wouldn't wish this type of injury on anyone this looked bad but this is Buster Posey he came back stronger than ever and this injury look like it didn't affect his career I am just glad that he is doing well
nice to know that there are some cool dodger fans
yes we are!!!! We love all the teams and their players!!!
+Nicki9202 This was in fact the main argument behind the safety measures regarding catcher collisions.
+Nicki9202 Absolutely, at the end of the day it's baseball, and no one wants to see anyone get hurt regardless of the uniform. You excited for the new season? Its gonna be a 3 team dog fight for the NL West with the Dodgers, Dbacks and Giants, and one of the two who doesn't win it will be a wildcard, if not both. NL West is the toughest division in baseball period and whoever wins it each year earns it.
Yeah I am ready for the season I have been a dodger fan for years now but I do like the NL west it's going to be a dog eat dog race
as much as I hate watching this, posey came back stronger! comeback player of the year, MVP, and world champ! Haters gonna hate
+Ples Young You try tagging a runner who is sprinting at 15-20 miles/hour and spears you head on at full speed with a helmet breaking your leg and several torn ligaments almost ending your career. See how YOU like it...
He didn't spear him, do you even know what that means? If you're covering the plate you're automatically in the wrong, runners get an unimpeded path to the plates, standing in front of it before you even start to catch the ball just means you're an idiot.
Brandon Vossekuil Contreras tagging out dodger player at home & getting called out then safe from New York on the "Buster Posey" rule 7:13.. brought me here
you're right...he had over a year to rest his body. should get more rest for 2020 since he's aging. heck move him to first and trade belt.
I’m wondering why this was ok for so long no one cared what could happen to the catcher until Posey gets injured then all of the sudden they care and make a change. No care for all the catchers before him?
This story had a happy ending. Posey won MVP the next year after missing the rest of 2011. He was lights out for 5 straight years following this play. The rules were changed to prevent this sort of barreling play, something invented by Pete Rose and which should have been outlawed much earlier. The catcher is also no longer permitted to block the baseline in an egregious manner before he has the ball. So it all came out for the best.
I know MLB had good intentions with the rule change but they really fucked it up even worse with that
It's a youtube comments section, so I really have no excuse to feel this way, but that's just an aggressive amount of dumb in one comment, bud.
I think the rule should have been that way from day one about no standing on the plate or in the baseline though. Pete Rose did not cause this rule change though. He did that in 1970 I think. He did what any player should do when the plate is blocked.
How so, guy?
Baseball guys are just pushies lol normal football hit circa 2010s
With the Lucroy collision yesterday, I had to come back to this and just see how they compared. Both very nasty hits!
Jake the Snake wore it better I think. Probably the hardest dome shot I have ever seen in baseball. Buster pussy just has weakass ankles that shot Jake put on Lucroy would have knocked out Tyson.
These types of full-on collisions in baseball were never going to fly in today's sports world due to health issues like CTE becoming more well-known. All Posey's injury did was speed up the process of making the MLB adapt.
Really cuz bb id full pussies thats a wtr dwn lg just like the nhl is now adays
@@jasonwagner1674 Please go back to school and learn how to spell
not just "today's world" that kind of play shouldn't had been allowed prior to this incident.
@@ChillRichard nah that's baseball Suzanne
@@brianl839 hey Peter Griffin, this is baseball not football!
It hurts to watch this. Poor guy. Best catcher of a generation by far. Haven’t seen a player since.
If you pause the video at :37 you can clearly see that a) Posey isn't blocking the plate and there is a lane to slide and b) Cousins dives toward Posey with the intention of dislodging the ball. He even said in interviews, he had to decide if he was going to slam him before he even left third base.
Posey wasn’t even blocking the plate. The outside of the play was open for a dive in slide. Posey was in proper position, Cousins just decided to veer in and blow him up. Cant stand when people blame Posey for this injury and subsequent rule change.
A slide wasn't the effective play here though. Although, if the runner knew Posey didn't have the ball, I'm sure he would've slid or gotten in there without such a play.
@@thecaynuck4694 You only blow the catcher up when he’s either totally blocking off the plate, or he has the ball waiting for you. Cousins veered over into Posey unnecessarily. Being allowed to football tackle a catcher who isn’t even able to protect himself should never have been allowed in the first place. Even in football you cant just level the punt returner while hes looking up at the sky.
That collision was barbaric on Cousins’ part. Went out of his way to ram into him like a linebacker.
And the guy pretending he cares
THANK YOU. Finally someone with a brain. It’s not like Posey’s leg injury was his fault
I'm a Yankee fan but I'll admit this was brutal to watch. It's painful to watch a guy like Buster Bosey to have an serious injury like that.
@Hayden Ell yeah I agree.
More brutal than being a Skankees fan ??
The runner had a clear path to the plate; Posey was IN FRONT of the plate; not blocking it. Dirtier than the dirtiest play ever!
true
You can see cousins shouting "I'm sorry" at 1:10 after he touches home plate
he's saying I'm safe
You're dumb af, he says 'I'm safe'
Whenever i see a runner absolutely demolish a catcher like this. I want the runner to know how it feels. I would like to see the runner in the gear and posey running full speed at him
Well this isn't a weird comment. I agree.
I never got why people thought it was badass when players take hits in football. Especially a receiver catching a ball, getting ready to turn upfield, and getting drilled. It's not impressive. One guy is at a virtual standstill, he has ZERO momentum, the other is going full speed with all the momentum.
Catchers are runners too. They would do the same thing on the base path
Except that Cousins was a cup of coffee in MLB, while Posey had a 12-year HOF career. Besides, what other person would do what Cousins did? Unnecessary, intent to injure. Even the NHL would have penalized that.
@@addison.maddison umm... Cousins was trying to score. In this scenario, the way of scoring at the time was to dislodge the ball from the catcher's mitt. Sucks that Posey got hurt, but you can't blame Cousins of mal-intent.
I'm here after Buster announced retirement age 34! This collision rightly changed the game. Big crush collisions at home plate are history now. Although it was the norm then, Collins slanting left and diving into Posey when he could have dove straight towards the plate on a clear line. Posey came back had a huge year this year after a year of rest through Covid. Catchers and players in any sport are not video game characters.
He did not slant left very much. He just braced for contact with his left shoulder. Posey for some reason was not able to get out of the way and almost looked like he resigned himself to have contact and swivled into the base path without the ball Why get out of the way? Because he did not have the baseball and no way to tag out runner so why try to make contact.
Catchers can still be run into as long as they have the ball and are blocking the plate
We’re all here after that, genius
@@zebman9228 Posey didn't know he'd dropped the ball. He was beginning to sweep the tag toward where the runner was originally headed. Cousins shifted his movement away from this path and shifted his weight completely into the catcher, making no attempt to touch the plate on the initial approach.
I do miss collisions but the guy could’ve totally slid outside of the tag here, there was no need to run over Posey.
Tom Herdman he was like a football player absolutely whaled him
It's easy to say that when you're watching this and not playing in the moment.
Nah scot cousins I think he was named the guy who hit posey. He was soaked in guild after this completely devastating for him.
Are u serious? Where would u like him to slide? Posy was in front of the entire plate. It's simple. U don't want to get plowed then don't block the plate at all. There was never a problem so this rule didn't need to be changed. It was always left up to the catcher. If u had balls u blocked the plate at if not u didn't. There was tons of unnecessary hits back in the day but this is not one of them.
It's a game now that it's been pussyfied like you wanted how is that going?
Even as a Yankees fan my favourite catcher is posey and posey came back strong
We had Posada and you pick Posey? 🤮
@@JoeSmith-dl9ok Posada deserves to be in the hall of fame and is a better catcher than Posey, but maybe he’s a youngster and Posada wasn’t his era. I’m picking Posey over Gary Sanchez or any of the one and done catchers the Yankees had after Posada retired.
i remember watching this when it happened....already 6 years. dang i'm getting old
Now you are even older.
@@anderivative 😭😭
@@absolutetuber 4 days older now
@@Lebronisthegoat3 add 3 more weeks got that
4 weeks older now
this bush league play cost Posey about 5 years off the end of his career. all things considered still one of the best all around catchers to ever play the game and a hall of famer.
He deserved it for being a fragile soft piece of shit
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Anyone watching this to compare to the Lucroy play? Pretty similar imo...
Ketsen the bit on lucroy was intentional. He dropped his shoulder into the guys skull and stepped up toward the catcher when he stepped up. Guy needs big suspension.
Kind of but Posey didn't get hit in the head
exactly like it
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flowerz watch jomboy’s breakdown. It was not intentional.
Lmao people saying this ruined the game... you all realize catcher collisions didn't happen that often? Also, if I wanna see a player go out of his way to tackle someone I'll just watch football.
Ian Gonzalez football a pussy sport with all that protection
The collisions not happening it fine by me but the fact that it is up to,the umpire if you are guarding the baseline or plate as the catcher leaves it up,to,opinion not skill or performance since different umps see it different ways
It wasn’t that this single rule ruined baseball, it’s just that this rule gave way to all the other rules that ruin the game. Can’t collide at home, can’t slide hard into a base, replay rule, etc
They don't happen that often but also happen to be the most pivotal game changing plays in the game. The difference between a run and an out on the lead runner...
It’s what made baseball what it is why tamper with it? That’s what made the game fun and interesting baseball is for pussies now and everyone is afraid of running into each other
It's amazing these injuries don't happen more often on these plays.
Because they banned these plays after this 😂🤡
@@aaronscarpa7469 it is a 9 year old comment
@@RustyRedRhombusand the actual answer is because good catchers don’t try to block the plate on their knees, just Buster.
@@kalebstuckey570he didn't come close to blocking the plate. He is out in front of the plate and turns to make the tag where the player should be trying to slide but instead decides to go wrestlemania on him with a Bill Goldberg spear.
@@RustyRedRhombusAnd?
how was he incorrectly blocking the plate? at 0:37 you can clearly see that he was 2 feet IN FRONT of home plate, he wasnt in the runners lane at all
After he thought he caught the ball, he leaned across the base line to make the tag. His head contacted the outside shoulder of the base runner.
SFGiantsMatt this was what all runners would have done, back then this was part of the game. This time somebody got hurt and they made a rule change. You have to realize this is what runners did, if you weren’t gonna make it you ran into the catcher to get the ball loose, Cousins did what was a regular at the time and accidentally injured Posey. Then he receives DEATH THREATS FOR AN ACCIDENT.
Center Court not really an accidental injury when you ram someone full speed dropping your shoulder into their skull.
@@Flowerz__ What are you supposed to contact him with? If I'm going to run into him, I'm going to lead with whatever part of my body is least likely to get injured.
@@geekverve he could've slid, he was aiming to make contact. But my thoughts only
i love the audiences compassion!
Buster’s not at all to blame for this collision. We can’t forget to mention that the following season he went on to win NL MVP. Dude’s a warrior.
Not even sure how people can say buster was blocking the lane. He was in front of the plate his left leg wasn't even on the lane. This was pure intentional head hunting. That being said, the rule should be modified to keep both the runner and catcher accountable. If it is clear runner is targeting, then he should be called out and be fined. If the catcher chooses to block then lane, then it's fair game.
xYondaimexJD you got it JD.
I don't know why everyone got so mad at posey about this it wasn't his fault.
Who was mad at posey?
@@ryankelly16 A lot of people. Since that happened there was a rule change and people were upset about it.
That was 99% Dodgers fans LOL
The Play that changed the game !
I went to this game. I was only 4 years old i did not know what happened but i just saw posey on the ground and than started walking to the dugout. But 8 years later he eventually got his first grand slam in 4 years
only four years old 😩 bl*ss u
I like how the hit wasn't necessary. At all
It's amazing how long home plate collisions were permitted.
It was before everyone became a pussy.
Fun to listen to the argument between you all. Here's my read.
1) From a philosophical point of view, the point of the runner is to get to home plate, but the runner makes no effort to get to home and instead just runs full speed into the catcher. In terms of "what the game is supposed to be about," it makes sense to make what the runner did illegal.
2) Now, that slide will be illegal, in part because it's an improper slide. On a headfirst slide you need to hit the ground first.
3) Had the slide been legal, and Posey turned without the ball to make the tag, the runner would be safe because Posey was blocking the way to the plate without the ball (whether the runner touched home or not).
4) I wonder if any runners are going to get hurt by sliding into catchers ready to lay down some beats. Broken ankle, anyone?
5) At some level, this isn't going to change baseball this much. If you're going to send the runner, it's because you think he can beat the ball to the plate, not run through the catcher to force a drop. I'm ok with that.
czcams.com/video/greHZZNRUDs/video.html Didn't change at all...
cousins legit went for posey. watch 0:37 to 0:39 in 0.25 speed and you can see the angle he was running at was toward posey (who was IN FRONT of the plate) instead of the actual home base. it probably wasn't intentional but still - shitty nonetheless
And his picture is in the dictionary when you look up POS.
Which team won this game?
I love 💗 when fans in any sports 🏀 chant players names
They should bring back the blocking the plate rule; and if you don't want to get hit, get the fuck out of the way.
Posey is beast, he won't give up .
Just this year I was watching the NLDS and thought it was odd that Posey is still catching this late into his career. Respect
He was 34 when he retired wdym 😂
@@OldBenKenobi2318 I don’t even remember why I would ask this question… lol.
i broke my fibula and i couldn't even get up.. Props to Posey
dodger fan here.. and that was quite a collision. i just wish they didnt change the rules though. i understand wanting to protect the players, but Garciaparra put it best. he said something like "second basemen and short stops dont get pads while turning double plays, so there should be no rule changes at home plate."
Well I guess that means Garciaparra is a dumbass.
why do you feel that way?
J Phoenix Because his statement was idiotic.
+J Phoenix Do runners regularly truck shortstops? Has anyone ever trucked a shortstop? How are these situations comparable? If the runner was allowed to tackle the shortstop to break up a double play, then sure, they might be comparable. However, they have to slide towards the base without putting their feet up, allowing the shortstop to jump over them.
+Jeff A They do now
Bring back this.
Dam i remember watching this as a lil kid
MY OPINION is that it was a clean hit, everything was fine, the only problem was posey didnt have time to brace for it. Even looks like he thought he had the ball for a second and tried to make the tag.
Posey clearly wasn't in the way. His back may have been obstructing the path by a few inches, but that batter had no reason to body slam him. If you watch closely, that batter intentionally angled to the left in order to hit Posey
@@joshuahsmith8192 It wasn't either of their faults. It's just part of the game. At least the runner respected Buster enough to be the first one to make sure he was okay... both players were very sympathetic about it going forward. Handled it professionally.
@@henryrodenburg9312 It's tough to tell in real game time. Cousins had to run full speed on a tag up. It wasn't either of their faults. It's just part of the game. At least the runner respected Buster enough to be the first one to make sure he was okay...
He tried to block the plate without the ball and was set up horribly...he basically injured himself.
@@henryrodenburg9312Same play in the video below, nobody got hurt, dusted themselves off, went to their dugouts, this was part of the game, nothing illegal then, czcams.com/video/iEVqY25ODdM/video.html
At least the Marlin base runner was nice enough to check on him
Buster is the literal best and for him to go out like that broke my heart.
It looked like Posey was NOT blocking the plate. He was in front of the plate and Cousins could've easily slid in .. Dirty move..
That happened four years ago...
Kam Chancellor would be proud
Scott Cousins lifetime BA = 179. this is the only moment anyone ever remembers him, what a bozo
Oh my freaking..
Dude wasn’t even aiming for Home, he was aiming for Posey
He was looking for contact. What ever happened to sliding? He was aiming right at him.
Buster is my favorite baseball player of all time
And is arguably the best catcher of all time
2010's has been the prime for catchers. Yadi, Posey, Salve, Sanchez are all arguably the best catchers of all time.
Ted Simmons is the best catcher of all time.
Yo I'm kinda new to baseball (started playing and watching in late 2018) but um I dont get how "good" Posey was... was he like realmuto good? Cause I've never seen him play at the level people talk about (like how people mention 2012 and stuff)
@@gio7591 Mvp Hall of fame gold glover 300 batting average and 30 homers a year which was bigger then than now. So yeah, I'd say buster was better in his prime.
@@rig0d633 have you literally never heard of johnny bench?
The fact of the matter is, this is a players livelihood. If there was ever a way to protect players towards having longer careers even after retirement, then people should be all for that. This was a play that could have ended Posey's career and it's even amazing he was able to come back from this and still play at a world series champion and all-star caliber level. As a fan, I wanna see this type of player play for 15 years rather than cut it short with an excuse like "well, its just part of the game." As a parent, you want kids looking up to players like posey because they are true professionals that play the game hard and carry themselves professionally on and off the field. If you guys want contact, please indulge yourselves in the other contact sports that are out there like football or ice hockey. If you can't get enough, then please records these games or have long nights on youtube watching highlights of collisions throughout the years. But, my god, even those sports have tried to prioritize player safety as a necessity. So my question to you is this, what makes baseball any different?
I'm a Yankees fan. I'm happy they made the new rules. This is a sport played with honor and respect. This is NOT wrestling where you enjoy athletes getting hurt.
That low angle of him clawing at the dirt is horrific
It's okay to be upset Doyer fans, 1988 was a long time ago.
As an Australian, it's awesome to see someone ploughing the catcher. Funny as!!!
This is why you don’t fold your legs under when you’re gonna get hammered-you squat, just like you always do when you catch, so when you get hit you go backwards ass over tea kettle, not folded over on your legs. The injury was his fault
Out of all the things a Dodger fan could be mad at Posey about, this easily tops this list.
Dirty play no doubt, Posey never blocked the plate and Cousins never went for the plate.
Aguilas415sfc Posey was blocking the llate
Ur fucking stupid bro you’re a biased fan, ur shit and false opinion doesn’t matter
Great MVP comeback story for posey but damn, what’s if the was MVP level in 2011. Sucks what could of been a great year for the giants
We love ya Posey
Watch... Cousins immediately goes to check on him after it happens.
I saw him reaching for the plate after he PLOWED Posey...Guys a bully, this ISNT FOOTBALL! Not ok for ANONE TO CHEER FOR A MAJOR INJURY, LIKE THE RAPTORS FANS DID TO KEVIN DURANT!
i’m 5 years late, but he’s doing that so he doesn’t seem like a complete dick even though he id
Michele Clark on behalf of my team i’m sorry about that it was the finals and everyone hates kd so our bad
@@micheleclark59 he did go to check on him and the reason why this is famous is because they made a rule to prevent this. getting clobbered was just part of the game back then
@@micheleclark59 but I agree that it wasn't right to cheer for an injury
And it sadly happened to the best catcher in the league.
I was at this game. Giants were down big and we left early. Heard the crowd roaring when walking to the car. Ended up watching Posey get injured from the bar, they wouldn't let us back in the game 🤦🏽♂️😖
That’s ur fault lol
I think in the era were in now people forget just how physical baseball really used to be. Whether you agree with the changes or not - it's clear its changed whenever you watch old clips.
I'm a catcher, and that's a tough area to be in... It wasn't either of their faults. It's just part of the game. At least the runner respected Buster enough to be the first one to make sure he was okay...
The guy literally charged into him with all his might lol might as well have tackled him
Why would he dive into him? Posey had like a quarter of the box, Cousins, had the rest. A facefirst slide would've been fine. I can't help but notice this the more I watch this video. It also gets more noticeably pointless to collide with Posey the more I watch this.
I love 💗 when MLB and NFL players help other and fans chanting there names
What's this commentator's name?
Duane Kuiper
The play that pussified baseball forever
Shut up
@@bradydavis2523 He’s right though
No matter how much of a giants fan I am, Posey should not have been standing there...Cousins couldnt stop he had too much momentum going, it was a fair play...just a horrid situation.
Wes Doobner Youre a fucking troll
Where should a catcher stand? In the dugout? The runner had a clear shot at the plate, behind the catcher. Instead, he ran into the catcher. It was intentional, and completely avoidable.
Kyle Walter if you call that trolling, then you obviously don't know what a troll is,
Ichron Its also part of being a catcher, and the runner playing smart baseball
Buster was in the right place. Cousins was outside of the correct slide area and missed the bag. He touched it after. It was a dirty move to throw your self at the catcher to get the ball out of the glove.
Yes, it does make sense, but it doesn't take anything away from that an ankle is a part of a leg.
Looking at all the comments from 2011-2013 saying its changed. Now in 2017 it seems like no one gives a crap about that rule
is no one going to say anything about the announcer saying nigga? 2:35
he started to say negate then changed to navigate. stop trying to start shit for no reason.
+Ben Howard im not trying to start anything.....
im just stating a fact.
+Harvey21 quit trying to bate. He obviously didn't say that.
if i was u i would consider getting my hearing checked
+Harvey21 you are a stupid piece of shit. He was trying to say navigate. If anything he was going to say negate, but caught his wording and corrected.
The guy made 0 effort to slide. He essentially just blindsided him hoping he’d drop the ball then went for the base.
On documentaries, if he had slid, he could've bene tagged if Posey had the ball. The runner didn't know Posey had dropped the ball, and had no choice but to hope to break up the play with that momentum. Cousins was very apologetic and felt Posey's pain. They both got through it and Posey had a positive attitude towards it.
This is the play that would change the game forever because the league finally said enough no more collisions at home plate there just too dangerous
Correct, good rule change.
Looks like it could've been a sprain, but was it a break?
He broke the fuck out of his leg.
Look I feel bad for the guy, but look how Posey's set up. he dosent have a solid fundemental base, thats why he got hurt not the hit. it was nothing malicious, Posey's got nobody to blame but himself. and now they are changing the rules of baseball for this one play, give me a break
But you saw that guy ran into him, not the base. Lol
For all the stupid arrogant people saying that Posey ruined the game. None of you are true baseball fans. I am a catcher and in the heat of the moment, in the situation he was in I can guarantee you that I would have done the same thing he wasn't in the right position and went to do his job GET THE OUT and the worst outcome came but he was playing game who it is supposed to be played and no one should blame posey for this
After watching it again I change my statement a little bit he was not in the BEST position the only place he could go was he back corner of the plate or be he could have done what he did for NO REASON
I don't care that you're a catcher, I don't care who you think is a "true fan," this incident ruined the game. Whether you want to believe it or not.
I know it hurt the game I'm not sayin it didn't I'm saying it's not posey's fault everyone's blaming him for something that he had no power in controlling
DR.LPSPORTS he called the play dirty. it was not. ask Torre McArver Bench Scosia etc. Clean. he whined like a pussy and now the sport is less.
Ples Young when did he say it was dirty? Quit making up shit
Awww my poor Posey.
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww poor posey.....3 rings in 5 years :-(
Should 100% be allowed to run the catcher if the catcher leaves you no lane to the plate but only if there is no lane to the plate.
The injury that ruined baseball.
want an example of a ruined game look at jays game today
+Avinash Parmanand that's what I was referring too what a bullshit rule
If you're referring to the game ending, because Jose Bautista interfered with the second baceman trying to throw to first. That shyt deserved to be called.
+RetlocLive you Cleary don't understand how baseball is played or even saw the play because he gave the other player the slightest touch
I don't have to be a baseball fan, that was still obvious interference.
You don't want a collision, then stay off the plate. It's that simple.
He wasn't on the plate
Don't stand on the tracks when the train is coming through.
-Jack Parkman.
+Richard Shelton nigga do you have eyes
Pause it at :11 and tell me he's in front of the plate. Ivan Reyes, best you stick to sports that don't require an IQ over 70. The NFL is waiting.
Rich Cordrey lol implying baseball is superior to other sports
Who won?
I watched an interview with Cousins and Posey and I think they both said Cousins went to the Giants dugout after to apologize.
If he was a real giant he'd block the plate better. Yes pun intended
Completely legal play at the time. Whether it was dirty or not isn't a factor. When you play the catcher position, you know in the back of your head that a collision at the plate and risking injury is a succinct possibility. Obviously with the new rule, the intentional collision is no longer an issue.
Thanks captain obvious.
Why? I am a Atlanta Braves fan. And if a Brave did that. I would be so super pissed off at him. Wtf was that for? To nearly retire Buster Posey that day? Scott Cousins why?
I feel so bad😢😭😔😖😵
I don't blame posey but I am going to miss home plate collisions they were one of the most exciting things in baseball it was nice and refreshing because baseball is not super high contact like football but home plate collisions were exhilarating...
This is part of the game. Yes they just created a new rule to combat this, but anybody who knows the history of baseball knows that this was part of the game. There is nothing wrong about knocking the catcher over to make him lose the ball once he catches it. Posey prematurely moved in front off the plate. Cousins did hit him with the intent of knocking the ball out, which he thought posey had. Anyone saying this is dirty obviously hasn't watched baseball.
imagine suffering this the day after intense legs workout at the gym
Speaking of gym, are they ever going to reopen? I'm dyin
Five years ago today.
Yall act like this didnt happen years ago
Cousins still gets flack for this?! Why is this play that would've been almost routine even 10 years ago now leading to a change that robs all future fans of getting to see one of the best plays in baseball? Guys like Rose, Mantle and Dykstra have slowly been replaced by multimillionaire pantywaists who prefer to jeopardize the outcome of the game rather than their physical comfort. This rule is baseball's version of the NFL's new joke of a kickoff spot. Playing a professional sport (something many would do for minimum wage) for millions of dollars a year is a choice. People are starting to forget that.
Can you link to a photo/video of Mantle running over a catcher? His knee would have exploded just thinking about it.
Preach
Mlb had to just keep digging the whole deeper after their great white hope got a little banged up. It's insane how the sport went from fun and entertaining to a weird snoozefesr in less than two decades. I'd really like for baseball to make a comeback or just die off completely.
This doesn’t even look like a top 20 collision at home plate. We used to have one of these like every other game.
He only got hurt because he was set up wrong. A catcher is supposed to be in a crouched position on the balls of his feet. Posey had his foot laying flat on the ground so that when his body went backwards it stretched and broke his ankle. Unfortunate as this may have been, it was completely legal as it should be.
How was he set up wrong? He was IN FRONT of home plate towards the pitchers mound!!! The runner clearly goes out of his way to plow him over. You're so fucking stupid it hurts
Vincent James Dude you’re a Giants fan you have no say on this shit. He is right. And why the fuck are you replying to a comment 5 years ago. Get the fuck out
@@mustafaafzal4749 after the Lucroy-Astros'dude collision, you might lose your mind! Cuz the 5 years later cry babies have shown up. You are warned.
cleanest collision in the history of baseball
+ThomasTVM shut up go to hell hes probably one of the best catchers ever
+DANDY CLAN *gary Sanchez
Oh shit, gary getting that shout out. Cant wait to see the Yanks play next year, that new young team is gonna kill it
Brandon Neely im going to have a beard by the time these yankees start back up again...
Thomas Andrews
Haha maybe, but the young kids on the team are gonna be fun to watch
I was there when this happened, I was 11
That's life.