How to Repair a Damaged Paramotor Frame - Net Replacement
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- Neil is back with some words of wisdom. Accidents happen, and he wants you to know that before you spend the money to buy a complete new frame to try and repair the damages yourself.
In this video he walks you through techniques on how to bend back tubing, and also how to replace paramotor nets.
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Neil! Nice work! Great seeing you today!
Thank you so much! Prop ate my P2F Cronus net this evening while flying and I was sweating throwing on a new one. Your video answered all my questions 🤘
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A wooden wedge and hammer can space those frame tubes back to parallel. I piece of plywood cut to the right radius and screwed on top of more plywood can get your hoop back to round.
Top job
Thank you for the video. I hope I never need to apply those techniques. 😅
Great Video, I need to do this, I've been patching mine up with dyneema line.
Nice.👍
Is there a way to tighten the loop in the rivet that holds the netting , i have one that is a little loose . Without taking the rivet out?
Just wondering?
Would a Parajet Mav max hoop net fit.
Hoop tubing diameter is smaller on the MavMax, trying to put it on the 16mm Limitless hoop would give you carpel tunnel every time lol
Just a thought, why not put "T"'s on the end of each of those parts your threading into the hole just prior to riveting? the string would be the vertical part of the T and the horizontal would be say the gauge of a small brad nail. Maybe a plastic bushing in the frame hole to prevent chaffing of the string but the "T" could be pushed through very easily, it would be captured on the outside of the frame. This would be extremely easy re-netting, could be done in the field, and even sold on the merch trailer as no tools would be needed to do this job. Now you may think of line snagging when launching. Sell as part of the kit a piece of PEX tubing that would snap over the upper half of the hoop so it would allow the lines to glide smoothly when they come in contact. The PEX tubing is extremely cheap, very very light (ounces at most)and can be cut with a pocket knife. Thoughts? The other option would be to put loops on the ends of each part you are threading through the hoop holes, and again put a nylon or plastic bushing in each hole to prevent chaffing. When the loop is pushed through the hoop hole, thread a small gauge like 12g that could not be pulled through the hole and let that go around the circumference of the hoop holding the looped ends. The employee once again the PEX tubing to cover it if you wish for snag prevention.
Your concept is technically good and feasible. An analogy that comes to mind is trying to improve the efficiency of replacing a car airbag after an accident. Replacing the netting should be very uncommon, where the goal is 0 netting replacements for the life of the paramotor ownership. If a pilot is replacing netting, it's the pilots fault, and I believe too many pilots don't want to hear this and instead point their finger at the wind or a twig. Let's leave these netting replacements to the PPG schools where netting replacements should remain =)
@@iKenFlyPPG With all due respect, i have to disagree with the over all premise of your response, and a smidge I agree with. Lets start with the agreeable portion. YES, net replacement should be zero, but so should car accidents. that is all for the agreeable part. Since 1886 cars have been driving our streets, Mercedes I believe was the first to actually put rubber/wood to the road. So, with all that practice and safety that is so commonly found in cars today, we should not be having accidents, body shops should not exist, auto parts stores should not be on every corner for that matter. According to your (as I take it) thought process, we should just have dealerships, they should teach us how to drive (school), and be a reference when we have questions. So, when I have an alternator go out, or my brakes do not stop as well as they once did, or possibly not at all and a crash occurs, off to the dealer ship the car go, because no one else should be touching this car, as this after all is where I first learned to drive, and possible learned about the over workings of the car, just like at PPG school. How long do you think it would take for the back of of work to totally overwhelm this dealership?, just as it would the PPG school replacing nets, because accidents no matter he cause (twigs or wind) are going to occur. Paramotoring has been around a mere 40 ish years compared to the automobiles 137 years existence. People are going to work on their own vehicles, either due to curiosity to learn, necessity to get their vehicle back on the road quicker, or just due to financial reasons. So, my thought is, lets make the re-netting process easier, able to be performed in the field so your entire day is not ruined due to netting issues, or God forbid, someone going without it due to either not having the tools, their location, or their financial means. My thought process would solve all of those, despite how much fault was on the owner/pilots shoulders. A friend of mine had his blown over by the wind, it hit the metal bench next to it and severed the line. Crap happens, accidents happen. fault or no fault, providing a method to safely correct the problem is key. Again, I respect your viewpoint, it is as important as mine, but I do disagree with it, just as you do mine. Thanks and safe flying.
@@michaelkennedy2528 What is the best netting design for paramotors? Sounds like you're frustrated with the big picture of netting not really just this model shown in the video. All netting is going to suck in some way because there are trade offs.
Are you aware there are many styles of netting terminations. Sounds like you're pretty committed to the pop-rivet style like this Liberty/Limitless uses and then want to pave the cow path by making some little widget to replace the pop rivet, which could be argued to be similar to reinventing the wheel. However, one could bypass the cow path and go a totally different direction like the several other unique methods to terminate a ppg net, again with trade offs.
My opinion from my perspective is that the pop-rivets are bullet proof and it's a paramotor designed to break down fast so it's not perfect. My other motor has a universal net, very difficult to setup messed with it for a while trying was to tension it. The net has the best protection I have ever seen as it goes behind the back rest and all the way around to the gas tank, but it would take and hour to remove and replace.
@@iKenFlyPPG If you read my initial post once more, you will discover that I am definitely not fond of the rivet, in fact, I say the exact opposite. Having to deal with the rivets as you saw in the video he made required a drill, and did you happen to notice the "string" wrapping around the drill bit when he was trying to remove the old rivet? So, how many people can stuff a drill, despite how compact some are now days into a paramotor pocket in case they snag or tear their netting? I would venture to say NONE. On the other hand, now many would you think could put and may very well put a 8 ounce spare netting in the pocket of the paramotor?, I would venture to say it would be a great addition to the little tool kit that several manufactures include as a carry on for such things as a fouled plug. The "T" method I spoke of totally eliminates the need for rivets, you simply need a hole to put the (string, lack of a better word) through the hole much like a shoe lace and one the lower part of the netting where you tension it, it would be as simple as tightening a purse string type thing. I could do I bet 10 to 1 re-nettings, and they would be AS strong, and very possibly even stronger. The other "loop" method I mentioned in my initial post, that 12 gauge wire I mentioned could be just for each section, and could be as simple to source as a piece of copper from basic electrical wire found at any hardware store, so that too could be done with extreme simplicity, and both affording the ability break down for transport and re-assembly much much quicker. Give my initial post another once over and you might see that I am far from liking the "rivets", (only in this situation) and am all about the simplicity and safety. Thanks for getting back with me, your perspective is important to me.
@@michaelkennedy2528 So what's the best netting termination solution in one or two sentences?
Instructions unclear, my scout won’t bend 😂😜
I think there’s videos on CZcams for repairing exploded carbon fiber with epoxy and carbon sheeting;)
@@fasst45072 just a joke since cf doesn’t bend
@@E.J.Addler true dat! It shatters instead
@@fasst45072 it’s easier to repair than aluminum and goes back to true easier than titanium…although it doesn’t always look the prettiest when repaired.
10/10 would not recommend with a Scout, but if you do definitely film it.
Hang on to this video - I'll be coming for training soon....you'll need it. :)