Thanks for sharing the tips. I might consider that trick with the fishing line when I have my Hornet ready. I might even try it on my Rising Fighter ('Hornet III'). I haven't run that thing yet because of that clanking.
Great tips. Appreciate that. Strange it's softer though, cutting off coils makes the spring harder (I know-strange but true), however that's clearly worked really great.
shenlonco put on road pan car front springs (or sections of a pen spring) just long enough for a little preload, like 1/8". then thin washer to the arm tops. A arms will be sprung suspended both directions. edit: rear suspension: putting a screw through from the battery tray side about 7/16 over the center of the rear axle, then cover the screw with a bit of small rubber hose. the rear end will still roll up a good 1/4", but no "clack-clack", with more articulation. battery trap: cut the rear top away to cover with a thick chunk of lexan (or whatever) in a ||_|| shape (flipped over) to put in a 3+3 saddle pack vertically, changes the CG rearward a bit. takes getting used to driving it more like a Baja Bug, using more on-off throttle to make it controlled drift turning. example tamiya fox having motor all the way back and battery pack sideways across the rear, more rear traction to scoot with.
forever later here... we used to cook the springs over a gas stove burner then give them a squish while hot, top of bolts got on road pan car front springs (or short section of pen spring), small washer, then O-ring to provide some friction damping. sat about 5/16 lower, less bump steer issue, done right (softened main springs) it'd suspend for some both positive and negative travel, but not flop. what's not to like about the fishing line fix? great idea really, may be better if it had a little slack, like doing same with very small crimp on electrical lugs and a bit of plastic coated aircraft cable? the CLUNK was always annoying and keeping the springs in the slotted rear hangers was like futile, weren't strong enough anyway. our fix back when was a screw through from the inside of the chassis with a short bit of rubber tubing. the rear "pogo stick" stock shocks got the same treatment as the fronts, cooking to soften then clip the end coils from pen springs to put inside the "shock" bodies with the small washer and O-ring at the bottoms inside, and add a couple drops of oil. it lowered the rear a little more than the front, shorter suspension travel too, but suspended both directions (positive and negative). we tried any/everything to keep the tires more in contact with the dirt!! give the stuff a try. edit PS: needed to, for putting Associated/Reedy stock and Dynamite 34 degree "outlaw stock" motors in em, adapters for Tamiya Fox tires/rims etc.
Thanks mine works great now, Try the new ampro rear scorpion tires and wheel adapters I had him make it lets you run kyosho scorpion rear wheels with the scorpion nice softer tires and it helps soak up the bumps better with the softer tires. czcams.com/video/UR2VYWg8Ses/video.html czcams.com/video/KnropfK6lM4/video.html
saw those a while back, the Fox rims let it run all kinds of softer aftermarket 1.9" or 2" rubber rather than vinyl/rubber. really hoping Alberto works up my idea for Grasshopper/Hornet/Lunchbox etc rear diffs, even with stock Mabuchi can motors that lifting and tire spin was a real issue.
Hi those scorpion tires are much softer and more rubber on the sid walls and they even come in a softer compound than the stock scorpion kit tires to boot! 👍😊👍 I use the tamiya anti wear grease on my diffs it helps czcams.com/video/Hvpu1WUIFPY/video.html
Hi To be honest I think the grasshopper has softer springs up front than the hornet... If not it may be softer because they don't use the friction O ring and its holder under the shock tower that will compress the spring more like the hornets...but it still may be better a bit softer up front for you....also get the hornet rear gearbox holders that let the axle swing and the string methode will work for you also as your grasshopper has a non swing set up.
shenlonco Just got home from work. No RC tonight, other than flying my Inductrix in the living room. I need a friend for the dual ORV video. Kinda hard to drive 2 cars and film lol.
I am 49 I bought my hornet when I was 13/14 yrs old.when I did my front in that plastic piece on top in side the spring. U got a choice of 1 or 2 of those rubber gaskets(washers), 2 is for rough terrain 1 is for flat ground. That was makes front springs stiff or not stiff
Thank you! I did the fishing line mod on my new Hornet. It really seemed to reduce the hopping on hard surface (road)...as well as the “clanking”. I am new to RC (only a week or so) but have been watching your vids (and subscribed). I’ve learned a lot...thank you! 🤘🏻 Feel free to check out my Hornet build on my channel.
I like it better the front don't bounce around as much for me...it's a cheap mod if you try it and don't like it you can just buy a new set of springs and put them back if you don't like how it goes.
agree softer is better up front, back when we'd just cook them over a gas stove burner to take away their strength, then pop in the on road car spring+washer topside.
a little less bump steer that way when landing it too, hornets are kinda notorious for it! another goodie is whipping up a front torsion bar setup helps.
Yes I have a kyosho scorpion but it don't put the smile on your face like when driving a tamiya hornet...just ask other hornet owners how much fun they are. =)
If you want a buggy that is more like newer style buggies and will handle ruts and bumps better and perform better get the kyosho, the hornet works way worse but is a fun buggy to own also.
hornets really are a love+hate classic little beast, but get one dialed in they'll scramble pretty good! they have to be set up kinda soft loose and made to run flat, front torsion bar kinda important. if the front runs flatter the rear follows suit to spin both, not 1 wheel up and hammering. wider front A arms, definitely! they'll take away some of that bump steer issue without going to an upper link style front end (those ARE neat but...).
Nice mods dude. 👍😀✌️️
Thank you I try my best! :-)
outstanding from the shenonco! i have a NIB black metallic edition and i will be doing the spring adjustment.
cool!
nice KIT! :-)
Thanks for sharing the tips. I might consider that trick with the fishing line when I have my Hornet ready. I might even try it on my Rising Fighter ('Hornet III'). I haven't run that thing yet because of that clanking.
Thanks by the way!
Your welcome.
Go for it you will like it for sure! :-)
awesome tips there !!
Thank you.
Great tips. Appreciate that. Strange it's softer though, cutting off coils makes the spring harder (I know-strange but true), however that's clearly worked really great.
yea because it was so compressed in the space cutting some off released the compression making it softer.
I understand now. Thanks again.
good work colleague, thank you very much for sharing 👍 👍 👌
Thank you very much :-)
shenlonco 👍 👍
shenlonco put on road pan car front springs (or sections of a pen spring) just long enough for a little preload, like 1/8". then thin washer to the arm tops. A arms will be sprung suspended both directions. edit: rear suspension: putting a screw through from the battery tray side about 7/16 over the center of the rear axle, then cover the screw with a bit of small rubber hose. the rear end will still roll up a good 1/4", but no "clack-clack", with more articulation. battery trap: cut the rear top away to cover with a thick chunk of lexan (or whatever) in a ||_|| shape (flipped over) to put in a 3+3 saddle pack vertically, changes the CG rearward a bit. takes getting used to driving it more like a Baja Bug, using more on-off throttle to make it controlled drift turning. example tamiya fox having motor all the way back and battery pack sideways across the rear, more rear traction to scoot with.
Hi thanks I did do that one rear mod to one of my hornets to stop the gear box clank and that also works.
Thanks for watching!
Good vid man.
Thanks man!
hey ! super idea with the fishing line ! i hade put harder little spring in the ovale holes but this not work so good as you'r trick ! :)
Thanks =)
forever later here... we used to cook the springs over a gas stove burner then give them a squish while hot, top of bolts got on road pan car front springs (or short section of pen spring), small washer, then O-ring to provide some friction damping. sat about 5/16 lower, less bump steer issue, done right (softened main springs) it'd suspend for some both positive and negative travel, but not flop. what's not to like about the fishing line fix? great idea really, may be better if it had a little slack, like doing same with very small crimp on electrical lugs and a bit of plastic coated aircraft cable? the CLUNK was always annoying and keeping the springs in the slotted rear hangers was like futile, weren't strong enough anyway. our fix back when was a screw through from the inside of the chassis with a short bit of rubber tubing. the rear "pogo stick" stock shocks got the same treatment as the fronts, cooking to soften then clip the end coils from pen springs to put inside the "shock" bodies with the small washer and O-ring at the bottoms inside, and add a couple drops of oil. it lowered the rear a little more than the front, shorter suspension travel too, but suspended both directions (positive and negative). we tried any/everything to keep the tires more in contact with the dirt!! give the stuff a try. edit PS: needed to, for putting Associated/Reedy stock and Dynamite 34 degree "outlaw stock" motors in em, adapters for Tamiya Fox tires/rims etc.
Thanks mine works great now, Try the new ampro rear scorpion tires and wheel adapters I had him make it lets you run kyosho scorpion rear wheels with the scorpion nice softer tires and it helps soak up the bumps better with the softer tires. czcams.com/video/UR2VYWg8Ses/video.html czcams.com/video/KnropfK6lM4/video.html
saw those a while back, the Fox rims let it run all kinds of softer aftermarket 1.9" or 2" rubber rather than vinyl/rubber. really hoping Alberto works up my idea for Grasshopper/Hornet/Lunchbox etc rear diffs, even with stock Mabuchi can motors that lifting and tire spin was a real issue.
Hi those scorpion tires are much softer and more rubber on the sid walls and they even come in a softer compound than the stock scorpion kit tires to boot! 👍😊👍 I use the tamiya anti wear grease on my diffs it helps czcams.com/video/Hvpu1WUIFPY/video.html
Nice mods. Maybe I will do this on my Grasshooper :) 👍
Hi To be honest I think the grasshopper has softer springs up front than the hornet... If not it may be softer because they don't use the friction O ring and its holder under the shock tower that will compress the spring more like the hornets...but it still may be better a bit softer up front for you....also get the hornet rear gearbox holders that let the axle swing and the string methode will work for you also as your grasshopper has a non swing set up.
shenlonco
Thanks for the hints! 👍
***** Your welcome :-)
Good idea 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Good tips bud!
Thanks Man! You polishing up the tamiya blackfoot and M beetle for another video shoot! :-)
shenlonco Just got home from work. No RC tonight, other than flying my Inductrix in the living room. I need a friend for the dual ORV video. Kinda hard to drive 2 cars and film lol.
Yea I know sucks by yourself ...trust me I know the feeling All driving and filming done by myself!
I am 49 I bought my hornet when I was 13/14 yrs old.when I did my front in that plastic piece on top in side the spring. U got a choice of 1 or 2 of those rubber gaskets(washers),
2 is for rough terrain 1 is for flat ground. That was makes front springs stiff or not stiff
😁👍 COOL! Yes I like using one O ring and cutting the springs it works great like this. Thanks for stopping by.
Thank you! I did the fishing line mod on my new Hornet. It really seemed to reduce the hopping on hard surface (road)...as well as the “clanking”. I am new to RC (only a week or so) but have been watching your vids (and subscribed). I’ve learned a lot...thank you! 🤘🏻 Feel free to check out my Hornet build on my channel.
COOL! and thanks glad I could help 😊👍
nice bro
Thanks Kev!
your welcome
Fajny model .
Just do the 5th shock mod. Works great
I did that long ago nothing works better than the fishing string mod.
@@ShenRC I guess. But it looks better lol
Great mods! What about the gauge of the metal string you used for the rear axe? Sorry, I don't know what it means 30 pounds-)
Hi thanks, it was 30lb fishing line kind of over kill you can use much less like 10 to 12lb or so and it will be fine.
I guess Im kind of randomly asking but does anyone know of a good site to stream new movies online?
@Iker Emilio I watch on flixzone. Just search on google for it =)
@Lyric Rylan Definitely, I have been using FlixZone for since march myself =)
@Lyric Rylan thanks, signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) I appreciate it!!
So how does it perform with the front spring upgrade? Has it helped with the performance?
I like it better the front don't bounce around as much for me...it's a cheap mod if you try it and don't like it you can just buy a new set of springs and put them back if you don't like how it goes.
agree softer is better up front, back when we'd just cook them over a gas stove burner to take away their strength, then pop in the on road car spring+washer topside.
also.....to help reduce under steer dial in some toe out, that makes the inside wheel cut in tighter......
thanks for the tips n tweaks
Cool glad to help =)
a little less bump steer that way when landing it too, hornets are kinda notorious for it! another goodie is whipping up a front torsion bar setup helps.
Is this a rere or original Hornet? Nice vid!👍🏼
😊👍Thanks it's a re release.
cutting the spring makes it STIFFER not softer..
Not in this case it's compressed way to much in a small space in stock form.
If it were not for the low gearbox, I would get one. Kyosho tomahawk is better for me.
Yes I have a kyosho scorpion but it don't put the smile on your face like when driving a tamiya hornet...just ask other hornet owners how much fun they are. =)
Hmm, maybe I will have to reconsider in that case :)
If you want a buggy that is more like newer style buggies and will handle ruts and bumps better and perform better get the kyosho, the hornet works way worse but is a fun buggy to own also.
yea sounds like you want a better performer and that is what the kyosho is
czcams.com/video/ZahrCk-IeVE/video.html
hornets really are a love+hate classic little beast, but get one dialed in they'll scramble pretty good! they have to be set up kinda soft loose and made to run flat, front torsion bar kinda important. if the front runs flatter the rear follows suit to spin both, not 1 wheel up and hammering. wider front A arms, definitely! they'll take away some of that bump steer issue without going to an upper link style front end (those ARE neat but...).