2017 Dodge Durango Takes on a Snowy Gold Mine Hill Off-Road Review
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A rental car would have made it..... rental cars can do ANYTHING.
Broken Medic lol
Lmao
They really do I rented a Geo metro once and we got about 20 inches of snow and didn't have any issues
instablaster.
most police officers say the same about there cruisers lol
Roman, great video. Thanks for the 'rant' at the end, it makes sense. You guys have a job to do and can't really push the cars/trucks as hard as you might want to push your own vehicle.
We own a Durango with over 100K miles on it. We've had zero issues and love it. I highly recommend the 4 captains chairs over the mid row bench.
dorelse we are considering a purchase of a durango and wondering what seating is best. why do you recommend the captains chairs
Well, that's a personal preference of course, however, with our family, we find it much easier & more convenient to just jump in and scoot between the 2 seats to the back. No latches or folding/flipping seats to get back there. Easy in, easy out. You also have better rear view mirror visibility w/o the middle seat in the way. Again, its just our preference. We stumbled across one with captains chairs and instantly liked it.
dorelse me and wife are looking to buy one for our new family. What year and engine do you own?
I have a 2018 bought brand new and it's been in the shop 9 times for non service related work and it's not even at 20k miles... 😔 I'm going to be taking it again very soon for another new problem....
@@tylerharvey8299 could you go more in-depth into these "issues" Seems like your here to mess around
The interior of this truck is really nice. The leather is very beautiful!! High quality.
Maddog8148 its an SUV not a truck
not a truck
C H what are use the political correctness police here.?? Give me a break pal. Find something better to do
+Maddog8148 politically correct? what? No what you said is completely false. It is not a truck it is a cross over through and through. everything from the suspension to the chassis is car based not truck based.
Charlemagen wow you got an A on your report card. Get a life pal don't waste my time.
This channel is the center of any car purchase 😂❤
I for one appreciate you guys showing a realistic depiction of what the vehicles can and can't do. None of us would or should split the trees in that vehicle. In a Trailhawk JGC? Maybe for fun. But we would all take a left and go around in a heartbeat. Keep up the hard work, thanks guys.
As a vehicle engineered or on road use in snow and gravel it did surprise me by getting that far. I think the Durango was pushed as far as common sense would dictate, while avoiding some serious body damage on tires that are not all terrain or mud terrain.
Too bad you don't have a tire sponsor because a comparison on the stock wheels versus an all terrain would be a great review and illustrate the difference tires make.
A question for an engineer... Will a system which automatically applies brakes to the one spinning wheel in the air (like in the video) help, by provide torque to the wheels that are on the ground? In other words if you jack a car up in the air and the wheels are free to spin, if you somehow stop one front wheel and one back wheel from spinning, will there be more torque to the other two wheels?
Cool review. Yes, I would do stage 3 (and make it) with my Durango Citadel. It has a very mild front lift and 32" all terrain tires. I use it off-road, and use low range too. Drove up some similar keep roads on a recent road trip to Colorado in the snow, and it did very well. Thanks for doing a review that shows at least some of the Durango's capability off-road!
Dodge Durango is a great SUV. But you need the V8 Hemi Durango if you want to go off-road. The V8 has a much better Awd/4x4 system. They use the MP-3022 (Select-Trac II) 2 speed transfer case, that can send 100% of the power to either axle and has a 2.72:1, 4wd low mode. The V6 only get the single speed (MP-3010), it is not good off-raod and only helps in bad weather. Try it again with the HEMI and you will make it.
Love my new rear drive Durango. A real Road hugger with great balance on hwy. I don't think ground clearance invites off roading. But it handles well on a dirt country road. I recommend it highly. Thanks for sharing climbing demo.
If it had true 4wd and a 4wd selector, it would have made it.
I have a 2014 Durango AWD special service vehicle... It's done nothing but impress me. Unfortunately, they don't make the SSV anymore which is why I havent upgraded yet. She's still going strong
I've takin her everywhere, she dominates in the snow, rain, mud, never had an issue
AWD Durango is absolutely underrated. Especially the SSV variety.
this would've been better if you had the HEMI because that has the 2 SPEED transfer with a LOW RANGE option directly out of the Grand Cherokee...the V6 AWD is a single speed case. not really meant for off road... just inclement weather for soccer moms who can't drive in the snow...
Came here to say the same thing -_- ... HEMI, 2 SPEED transfer with, LOW RANGE
Would not have made a difference. Once the Durango is crossed up (poor articulation), it looks like it lacks the BLD type system from the Grand Cherokee to apply brakes to the spinning wheel and shift power across the differential to keep it going.
None of this shit matters if it doesn't have an AWD system that sends power to the tires that are spinning. The main reason the vehicle didn't make it.
"Lockers, man."
Yup.I'd pay the extra to press a locker button when ( I ) want it in or out!
I agree, hemi with low range would help, it’s not like they just throw in a transfer case, it’s a different 4wheel/awd system. I have a 2013 with the hemi and 4 low and have made it through some quite rough stuff in rural West Virginia.
I finally got to play with my 2018 Tiguan in the heavy snow. Wow !!! VW should get an award. It was awesome. Snow Mode killed all the fun of driving in the snow.
Thanks guys you made me buy it !!!!
My '15 Durango is bullet proof so far. Zero returns to dealer . FCA is doing a fine job in my opinion . Keep it affordable.
I think of Durango as a asphalt hugger 1st and foremost. Thanks for cool off road demo. Aces !
AWD feature seams hungry to climb gold mine hill.
That interior looks really nice!
Gold Mine Hill looks beautiful! I need to go there one day. I think I would attempt Stage 3 with my Mitsubishi Outlander (with S-AWC and lockable center diff). But it is hard to judge from the video how steep it really is there. I guess way steeper than it looks.
I had very tough off road mountain climb today here in Oman. Doubted, terrified, but Durango did it to the top ❤
Chrysler/Dodge do such a nice red paint job.
Thirsty Fox its maroon
@@---qy2zf maroon and red are literally the same ones Just darker maroon is still red
You tell em Roman!! I wouldn't have tried it if it was my car
I would like to see with off-road tires.
I have a 2016 Durango R/T AWD and have taken mines over twist. ditches and breakovers and it has always distributed the power where it needs to be. low range works great too. Dont know what they are doing differently here.
Raynell Holmes the v6 only has a single speed transfer case V8 has two speed transfer case with Low range
Got a 2014 AWD Citadel with the HEMI best car I’ve ever owned. Extremely powerful for a factory suv.
Roman, I always enjoy your road tests. Common sense prevails & good information is delivered every time. Thanks for posting. ~ Richard from Texas
ironically this is one of the best products Chrysler makes.
I think it's the only FCA vehicle that Consumer Reports _actually_ recommends.
Justin Bouche Once they made it a Cherokee with dodge badges...
consumer reports is a joke they only like foriegn junk!!!!!!!!!!1
themopar426 yes that is why the 2 highest rated cars by them are the Tesla Model S and the Chevy Impala.
themopar426 Of course you're going to say they're a joke because your Mopar junk is always at the bottom of reliability ratings every single year lmao
I did my research on this like weeks ago. This vehicle I would get for a big family. I saw the hellcat version so I kind of change my mind on this durango.
Just bought one and now we are on a rd trip To Great Wolf Lodge .wife and 3 kids we like it.
Great video and no need to take risks that have zero rewards to satisfy the thrills of some that have no responsibilities. It is a good example of what you can expect if you purchase the vehicle. Bravo!
Thank you for these awesome goldmine videos. No one else does off road reviews as good as you guys.
These are so much better than the live videos...
This is cool seeing it before it's public
Cakey Fellow that's the srt. This one you've been able to buy
If it was my car, we wouldn't have made it passed stage one. Good choice not pushing the envelope! Nice video as always.
Hi Roman, I really liked this one. Just wanted to ask whats your preference, whats your favorite 3 row SUV?
You guys should take the 2017 Ford Explorer Limited up this trail. I think it would do very well. Very good videos, I'm glad I'm subscribed!
We bought one and love it. What a great SUV.
So the V6 will keep getting tested and dinged by Roman. Do the same tests with the V8 and the terrain management system. I know domestic bashing is all the rage but this is a good car with a very good hemi option and top of the class towing.
1st gen Durango still the best gen
fishinforfun33 Isn't the first gen 1997 to 2004? If so, I agree.
Zachary Martin ya it was those years. I liked it best back then because it was truck based and had old school 4wd. Did pretty well off-road to.
First Gen was 1998-2003. I had three of them and they would basically go through anything. Especially with the limited slip rear.
fishinforfun33
I also miss the old suvs as well. Real selectable 4x4, solid rear axles and I'm pretty sure the Dakota of the 1st gen Durango had the same front clip and maybe doors? Pretty much a Dakota 4x4 truck. Only thing I hated a out the Durango is I'd ocassionaly mistake the rear end (tail lights and hatch) for a 1996 to 00 caravan briefly lol
My first Gen is in my garage sleeping wouldn't trade it for the new one :)
Without hesitation I would have tried it going faster. Always curious to find the limit of what vehicles can do
Very interesting informative test, thank you Roman for the great work.
This is not the first 'test" you guys have published where I was wishing you would try going SLOWER so the AWD system would have more of a chance to apply the power appropriately. I'm not saying it would work. I don't have enough experience with the modern AWD systems to know for sure. But I hope you will try that as an alternative to not trying to go faster.
Love Durango's road handling. Low ground clearance lends itself to hard cornering more than off roading in my opinion.
Sweet ride.
Common the 3.6 is not meant for any offroading. I have 2013 model hemi and with low range option and there's a huge difference in performance for offroading when i switch to low, that I can climb something that steep with loose ground. The power transfer is very good But i suffer from the low ground clearance.
Bilstein 5100 adjustable height shocks for the Jeep Grand Cherokee will help with front ground clearance and remove the rake, depending on how you set them up. That's what I run with 32" tires. Rocky Road outfitters makes a 2.5" lift kit all around. You can go up 3" total without getting out of factory alignment specs. It's surprisingly capable off-road. Dodge even has a skid plate kit you can get if yours doesn't already have it.
I hope that you guys can get one with the v8 with the low range option. and you can get skid plates too
The beginning background music took away from the voice over, just a little too loud or unneeded. LOVE the drone footage! Also does the dodge not have 4LO for a attempt on stage 3?
Where I live in Michigan, we barely got any snow. When I was a kid, we used to worry about it snowing on Halloween, and for sure we'd get snow around Thanksgiving.. Now it's not rare to have barely any snow even by Christmas.. First few weeks of January we got snow, but, as I speak right now, it's like 60 degrees outside with no snow.. It's weird, man.
Heartagram Hi from Michigan too. No snow & 60 this is nuts.
11-15-2018....thanks for jinxing us this year, you jerk! Lol
great test. I was fairly impressed with its ability. on stage three you can see where it wasn't allocating power to the wheels that grip. good job
I have a 2012 Citadel, love it. I absolutely would've attempted going up "stage 3." However, I would've put the truck in a lower gear and maybe play with the ESP.
Either way, thanks for the video. It was fun to watch.
The Durango did a great job and better than I thought it would! I don't blame you one bit on Stage 3 though. I wouldn't try any quicker of an attempt than you did, especially on such an expensive vehicle.
If the AWD system was better, IT would have sent power ro the wheels with traction, This just showcases a bad AWD system that struggles to splitt power between all 4 wheels, Thea could have put the jeep AWD system in IT that actualy works🇳🇴
helseth96 This would have happened actually if he stayed longer on the gas but he didn't because it's too tight between the two trees and he can't risk wrecking a test car
Usually if you floor it with traction control off all 4 will spin with the increased loads, but unfortunately just by looking at the low clearance of the front skirting you can tell it was not built for off road. I own one and it is very good on-road in the ice and snow of Canada, but it is essentially the Mercedes E-class chassis and its AWD system, like the Chrysler 300 AWD or Dodge Charger AWD...
sickjohnson aha okay nice. But i didn't know that it had a mercedes e class chassis though. Hasn't the partnership between them ended like 10 years ago ?
Close to that, ya...but like Audi and Lambo they still run with it.
sickjohnson with out traction controll, the car would spin on 2 wheels because of the open differentials it has. Bad traction controll
I think your test was more than fair. I have no problem with that. I also think you opinion of the result was very favorable. That being said, I didn't like that one wheel lost all grip and the system wasn't able to move the torque to the other 3...
@TheFastLaneCar Can you guys do the Hemi version with the 2 Speed transfer case?
Long awaited review, thank you.
What would you say about Durango's approach angle that I believe is just 16°?
(I was very surprised to find that out, for it has a very short front, yet too low)
Beautiful shot with the drone guys!
Looks like Im blind. What abt full 4wd as I did not noticed rear wheels was spinning once front one lost traction. Too bad :-(
These have full 4wd. The right rear wheel was spinning. If he would have stayed on the gas longer the traction control would have applied braking to the right wheel forcing the power over to the left rear wheel but that would have increased the possibility of the rear sliding over into a tree. If you wreck a manufacture tester/loaner they will stop loaning them to you. This is their business and without loaner/testers they would be done for. These are nice family haulers that do not come with locking differentials.
Joshua C does the Durango have that system. it seemed like the front was spinning long enough to apply the brakes and transfer torque.
It probably was but when one wheel is basically in the air and the other is firmly planted it couldn't brake hard enough.
Marley Man How old are you ? just a side question ... Bad habit to call someone stupid. I had no exp with durangoes, but isnt it should be 60 on rear wheels and 40 on front? then again, why rear wheels does not spin ? Any reference to tech specs are welcome.
Alexander Golovaty it's because you were not able to see the other outside rear wheel spinning, that is why. There was power going to the rear, it's just the way the Durango had one front wheel in a hole and the rear on the other side in a hole, that is when with an open differential in the front and rear, the wheels with the least traction get the power.
So this didn’t have the low range 4x4? Is that option only in the v8? I have one and the low range is a real transfer case for true 4WD
I have one and I would not try stage 3 with that deep hole in it and that low front skirting alone!
Roman, do you think the V8 with the low range would offer a bit more diff lock force of torque to the other wheels, or the same result with one wheel in the air spinning?
Been waiting for this one! Thanks!
thats why i love my 04 durango, locks so no spinning tires here....
sad this new trucks designers forgot about that....
From what I read the Durango is AWD not 4WD but there was an option to have a lower range gearing in the transfer case that put in the Cherokee wheelhouse. Is that still and option and was this one equipped with it?
i think you did a good job for showing us what its made of. Anyways i have a first generation Durango. its my first dodge and i do like it, if i could offerd a brand new car id like the rt for ot has that nice v8 5.7 hemi.
Good job guys and i appreciate the work yall do.
Does it share any Jeep tech like brake lock “differentials”? How does it distribute power?
Very nice video, just enjoy the fresh air is good enough
I'm enjoying this little fight up there .^ Than I am enjoying this video.
I'm confused why couldn't the rear wheels push this AWD car/suv/cross over up.
hey no momentum or filling in hole when you did the subaru outback to give it a fighting chance??
When are manufacturers going to figure out the one wheel in the air spinning thing. WTF is the point of that? What are the solutions other than locking diffs? Acura is using braking the spinning wheel with the SH-AWD system. Does that do anything?
Dodge is the best. I would buy 5 next-gen Durangos with filigrees.
I'd like to see the Cherokee TH do this "hill". I'd take mine up there this weekend if i knew where this part of the trail was.
great review, I wonder how the RT would of done.
I'm surprised it doesn't have some type of locking system. Even like an electronic 4wd lock. Weird.
jarforsythe it has, but don't think Raman used it
LBYINCHINA Not sure on the 2017 but on previous years only the V8 had that, the V6 doesn't.
Best feature of the new durango is the blue plastic shovel
such a nice place
As a non Jeep SUV goes, I think it did pretty good.
Great video, thanks Roman and TFL.
Based on the Grand Cherokee -- makes sense that it is decent off-road. I wouldn't try to take a Citadel up part 3/3... or R/T or any of the models. Grand Cherokee - any 4x4 model - yes.
Those of you spewing anti-American auto sentiment: believe what you want. Most of the Jeep models are the overall most American-made products when you actually figure in where parts are sourced from, where each vehicle is made, etc. CR has been biased as heck for years, everyone knows that including themselves lol. Everyone has affirmation bias, but some have it stronger than others or implement it more aggressively.
A gen 1 or 2 Durango would've done these test with no problem, I miss the 4wd option where it just didn't give a shit and full sent all power to all wheels
Durangos are great cars. Very capable
Have you guys ever tried this in a Forester? I wouldn't mind seeing that.
Van Hammer apparently Subaru doesn't like to give them vehicles because they don't want them off road tested or something dumb like that.
You got it here's the reason why: czcams.com/video/g8VH438prWQ/video.html
ZapCannon5 wow. That's too bad.
Ok. Thanks. I guess the boys over at Fuji Heavy Industries are a bit thin-skinned.
Van Hammer LMAO right? Subaru's past is littered with folks who love them for their capabilities off road. maybe they just don't have any faith in their new CVT systems? either way, it's a damn shame
You should have turned off the traction control. Why does Roman always forget to do that? Always try without tc!
Maybe not hit it faster but let the front wheel hang and spin for second while the computer tries to figure out it needs to grab it with the brake. You know let the brake limited slip try and figure it out a bit before letting off the throttle.
You can try the dodge durango limited awd in the snow please
Is it the car or is it the tires? I’m confused.
Almost hit those two trees last time I was up there. But the dirt road on that trail can be done in a honda civic.
they stop putting 4lo in these? Or did i miss that part cause I'm watching on a phone
Would I do it? HELL NO. I have a Grand Cherokee Limited with the Hemi, whose sticker is nearly as much as that Durango's, and I would NEVER take that kind of chance with it. Of course, the GC has a low-range and locking rear diff, so it may have made it up that without needing momentum or more aggressive tires - but still, not a chance I would have taken in that situation!!
I hate the fact that Dodge transformed the Durango into an CUV from a SUV. I have an 2005 Durango SUV which is equipped with both AWD and 4WD and it is a beast in the snow. Though I love the styling of the newer Durangos I would never buy one because they lack the offroad capabilities of the older vehicles.
i Have a BMW but with all Due respect Dodge is taking over the Game,
Can you Guy do a video Mazda CX-9 ?
The CX-9 would have a hard time with stage one!
Can you get the tires change and attempt it again
I wished that these companies had a winter tire as a option
Rt or the srt might can do better job at stage 3.... can you make that happen????
Was really hoping this would be the perfect replacement for my jeep commander but the off road capability is very much inferior to the quadra drive 2. Sad. :( Why don't the make it 4wd selectable 2wd with a 4hi/low!
Off-road tires can make stage 3!
I think a nice Firestone wild peaks tires or Bridgestone grapplers on the 20s would of done a lot better.
Would like to see a durango with the v8 with the low range selector take it on and you can get a durango with skid plates
How come the rear wheels didn't help on stage 3?
Does this have the same 4WD system as the Jeep Grand Cherokee?
The problem, is today's ridiculous large wheels, with narrow sidewall tires, that are to wide and have a flat track. All season tires from 10 or 15 years ago would have made it up stage 3. If you had front wheel drive, except for maybe in the northern part of the country, you didn't need snow tires. I live in central Utah, at 5,600 ft, and nether I, or anyone I know of in my small town, bought snow tires back then. Now my wife's Jetta has a hard time in 3 or 4 inches of snow. Score one for the tire companies
Onze on the only duraango off road video thx ✌️
Good job
Did you put it low range?