SLIP TEST - Dodge Durango 3.6 V6 AWD vs Toyota Highlander 3.5 V6 AWD -
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Dodge Durango 3.6 V6 AWD (2015)
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Toyota Highlander 3.5 V6 XLE AWD (2016)
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The Durango/Grand Cherokee/W166 ML(GLE)-GL(S) Class Mercedes were the last vehicles developed together during the Daimler Chrysler "marriage of equals" so the platform is decent stuff but of course most of the AWD/4WD hardware and software are brand specific.
I wonder if a V8 Durango with the two speed transfercase would behave any different
I have owned both a 2012 V6 and a 2015 V8 durango. The V8 models with the 2 speed transfer case definitely have a better AWD system.
Great as usual! Rozbestwiają nas tutaj!
Didn't expect durango to perform that well
There's much of a Jeep underneath.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Hopefully not the rollover characteristics.
Front end crash test on Durango is more than impressive. Check it out.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollersdoes it have a rear locking differential.
@@BrodeyDoverosx Nope.
Really impressed by the dodge. One of the few vehicles you can see the awd logic hard at work to find a forward solution. Toyota as usually falls on it's face
@The1stRealVR Nope, the Durango like most AWD systems on the market today has an auto, on-demand AWD system. You tried!
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@@V0YAG3RThe one from the test has full time awd system with mechanical center differential.
@@V0YAG3Rnope, you tried and failed. The 3.6 has a full time AWD 50/50. You have to move up the trim line to get one of the 3 other AWD options.
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It's better when the "ESP off" for Durango. More torque for loaded wheel. Exсellent job of intellectual AWD. Looks like my INFINITI FX35 S50.
V8 Durango’s AWD is even better with the locking option.
That’s why having limited slip differentials front and rear is so important! Imagine being stuck in a horrible snow storm with a four wheel drive system like this and not making it home!
Durango passed all tests.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers
I thought it had a really hard time with one front and two rear slipping? The VW Atlas was able to send all its power to the one front wheel with grip to get off rollers. If the Durango had limited slip in front it would have locked up and pulled itself off.
Correction after watching it again. When three wheels are slipping period. It has a really hard time. If it had limited slip differentials front an rear it would lock up an roll off easier. But yes the Durango did perform well. But not well enough in my opinion
@@dirf554 Limited slip differentials would help for sure. But better programming of brakes intervention would do the job as well. Limited slip diff usually do not lock itself completely. Auto locking differential does.
Very cool video! This was a great idea to test.
Thanks, that's what our channel does 👍
А заднюю (принудительную )межколесную блокировку, можно поставить в Дюранго ?
Very helpful, thanks
Can you make a video of a roller test for the 2020/2021 Toyota Highlander (not hybrid) with the TV-AWD system used by the Limited and Platinum trims? Apparently they have a different AWD system using torque vectoring, unlike the AWD systems for the lower trims, or for older Highlanders like the one seen in this video.
I think it will be very hard to find it in my country...
@The Real VR 50/50 torque split by an open center differential right? Just like this Lexus: czcams.com/video/d0vF2FQpMI8/video.html
Good job Durango 👍. Nice video.
Thanks.
You think @ 2:05 is a good job ? Lol
@@hermanjohnson9180 Yes, it is. Wheels are barely spinning - that's what you may need on black ice etc. And if you need more power, more torque and more wheelspin - then you use ESP OFF.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I'm more of a 4WD guy. But the Durango's AWD isn't bad.
@@hermanjohnson9180 I don't know much about American cars but as far as I am concerned - there's a lot Jeep underneath. And versions with bigger engines have transfer case with diff locker and low gear. More than enough for basically onroad vehicle.
I would like to test my own car (2009 Tiguan 4Motion) but I have no idea where to buy the rollers. Can these be bought somewhere?
Tiguan I was tested: czcams.com/video/dtx6w_WqVNs/video.html
Rollers are custom made.
Lol it probably doesn’t work anymore in a 12 year old Volkswagen
@@Altchannel2988 oh, a car specialist... LOL.
Can rear forced locking be installed in Durango ?
I have no information.
A dałoby radę zrobić któregoś z bliźniaków Fiat Freemont/Dodge Journey?
Jeśli znajdzie się ochotnik gdzieś w naszych okolicach, to pewnie. Freemont czeka na test, niestety daleko od nas...
Affirmative!
Would the dodge journey with the same engine and awd be comparable with the Durango?
Probably but I don't know any technical details about this car.
Not my friend, u must watch Dodge Journey diagonal test
No not at all. The Durango has a permanent AWD system with a electronically controlled center differential. And its based on a rwd platform the Journey is front drive based with a clutch pack.
Question for the tester. Does the second generation Highlander have better AWD capabilities than the third Generation? Cheers
Difficult question. There's a permanent awd system but with open center differential. Check the tests of Lexus RX 300 on my channel, it's the same system.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Cheers for that, I've seen that test, but wondered if it was the same system.
The Highlabder is dead at 3:07 in typical Toyota fashion..
Norm T truer words were never spoken.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 toyota awd on Land Cruiser or Prada or 4Runner is excellent, new Highlander in top versions have good awd system too. This model year Highlander while not the best in artificial testing will do good enough in most of the off road situations it was designed to tackle.
@@robertduklus6555 actually the 4 runner and land crusier uses 4x4 as the toyota highlander still uses the same awd system as 2016
offf the thought of calling a "Toyota dead" when they Toyota and Honda last longer than any car on the road is just hilarious.
@@TripleAstyle1 the Toyota/Lexus FWD based AWD should be called at such as they always fail this test.
czcams.com/video/HbpizOdksaE/video.html
What this leaves me with is ine question, whats the point of esp if you actually get less control in slippery conditions?
ESP is for oversteer and understeer corrections. But with ESP on, there's usually too much throttle cut to allow TC to operate effectively when you are stuck etc.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I think part of my issue is I grew up with 3 things and a foot.
Steering wheel
Throttle
Brake
And with those three, you can drive fine. I remember when ABS came out and the 1st time it came on while I was doing the pump action and doing 100% fine. And back then it shook the car and scared the piss out of you.
The only accident I had was later on in life, huge snow storm, I was going maybe 10-15kmh downhill and abs didn't do jack. The bottom had 4 I-beam pillars. Hit one and it sliced the bumper and rad in half. No airbag deployment due to slow speed
So I'm generally skeptical of tech that assists. Maybe it helps millennials and gen Z 🤷🏽
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors I grew up in similar times but I find these systems useful - but only if they are well tuned. TC is great and it does the job which you cannot do by foot/brake/throttle/steering wheel - it mimics the differential lock (or lsd). Sometimes it decides whether you're going or stuck.
Does the awd Challenger have the same system as the Durango?
Nope, these are different systems.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Ok, thanks.
Wie Pan może czy ten sam napęd co w Durango jest w Journey/Freemont?
Durango ma stały napęd z centralnym mechanizmem różnicowym. Journey/Freemont ma tylną oś dołączaną sprzęgłem wielopłytkowym, zatem to całkowicie różne napędy.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers dziękuję za odpowiedź. Bardzo cenię sobie Pana kanał za fachowość i konsekwencję w działaniu.
@@michap1819 Dziękuję 🙂
You say you’re in Poland but the Durango and the Highlander aren’t available in Europe. How did you get all these vehicles there? 😲
Both came from USA.
A ja bym miał prośbę do obu właścicieli aut o skontaktowanie się z Zacharem. Bardzo chciał bym zobaczyć recenzję owych aut w formacie takim jaki to robi Zachar.
Na razie jeżdżą tylko xc60 z 2015 ale w bliższej przyszłości chciałbym zmienić na coś normalnych rozmiarów a np Kia Sorento jest dużo za mała według mojej skali.
Właściciel Highlandera był u Zachara, ale z poprzednim samochodem - Hondą Pilot: czcams.com/video/dTFQssKaoZw/video.html
My także mieliśmy przyjemność się spotkać:
czcams.com/video/Ivfjmckk4No/video.html
But it is not going to affect sales volume of highlander.
I've never met anyone that buys a highlander and puts it on rollers to be disappointed. Have you?
How put the 4x 4 in my Durango?
It's always on.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers oooo…. So , she use it when need it…
@@itanortizsanchez7597 It always uses it, no matter if it's needed or not. However there were different versions of the system, depends on model.
W durango są te same napędy co w grand cherokee ?
Nie, Durango nie ma żadnych blokad, reduktora itp.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Ok, ale ten tryb w v8 low range to skąd? Na jakiej zasadzie on działa? W v6 chyba tego nie ma.
@@rafcio96 Niestety nie mam wiedzy na ten temat.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers będę miał za jakiś czas pod nosem durango rt 2014 z v8. jak chcecie możemy zaktualizować materiał o tę jednostkę. mogę się odezwać gdy już wszystko będę miał ogarnięte.
@@rafcio96 Pewnie, zapraszamy 🙂
Durango beast
Yeah sure, pointlessly large and totally useless.
Its not useless. Actually its off-road much better than Highlander as we can see
Piotr Sulej pointlessly large? It’s designed for Americans. It’s actually a bit smaller than what some of us want. We prefer large and comfortable vehicles. Not small, cramped economy cars.
@@funnybunnynyc yeah on tfl the durango v6 almost passed the last stage but it didn’t had enough traction due to summer tires but if it had mud and snow it would easily done that
@@coolsquad7428 i agree
This is More of a test of the awd systems intelligence rather than its effectiveness in slippery conditions. In my experience driving both in the snow the awd system in the Toyota kicks in much faster while driving than in the Durango. Cornering is also much better in the highlander than Durango.
But Durango has permanent awd system, it doesn't kick in, it's always there.
I'm gonna guess the Toyota is a rental from how hard they were testing it?
Where is that hard testing? 🙂 Both cars from private users.
W toyocie widze ze tak samo jest jak w kia sportage iii.
that durango is way better
That’s a 3rd gen Highlander with a viscous coupling AWD system. The 2nd gen Highlander is like the Chrysler product with 4wd but it’s actually reliable. A second gen Highlander would not get stuck like the 3rd gen.
It doesn't have viscous coupling but electromagnetic coupling. 2nd gen of Highlander would get stuck like the Lexus with the same awd system: czcams.com/video/d0vF2FQpMI8/video.html
Ayy its an SXT!
Mayank correct. With the quadratrac 1 4x4 system. The hemi v8 Durango receives the quadratrac 2 system that has a low range and locking center differential. It performs much better.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 good information, thanks!
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 its actually a water down version of it actually they both have the same part number lol so that means the durango has a good awd system
@@coolsquad7428 agreed.
Pense que ganaría Toyota, bien por D Durango
I love toyota for their safety and reliability, but when are they ever going to learn how to make a good awd system like Subaru?
@Szary Latan That's true. I just don't get it why they are not using at least a part of their awd knowledge for these kind of vehicles. Maybe they have some research that owners of these cars never use LOCK mode, not to mention going offroad. That may be the clue.
Do a 2001-2006 Acura MDX
I will if I find any volunteer.
Here's 2012 Acura MDX: czcams.com/video/nsmp4NFCn-k/video.html
ja
I'm surprised that a car wiith open differentials moves forward with one wheel on each axis without traction. Toyota's lock mode is a joke.
Toyota's AWD is a joke.
Not every toyota sounds like that
Highlander is not an opponent for Durango
Durango better
New Higlander please
You expect the 2020 Highlander to perform better than the average Toyota does in not completing this test?
@@normt5463 I am 100% sure of this
@@fedjarer I'm 100% sure you are wrong
@Szary Latan the 2020 RAV4 won't this roller test and not even on an incline. Toyota/Lexus FWD based AWD are the worst and have always been.
@@normt5463 Test will show
You still think Toyota is better than Dodge...
Good job toyota 🔥
the durango did better yes, but it will break down before it gets the chance to go offroad, because legendary chrysler "reliability"
I would ask the people who own one. There are Facebook groups for Durango’s and majority of people who own them are happy with their choices even at 200k miles
The pentastar v6 has proven itself to be extremely reliable and the zf 8 speed is one of the worlds most reliable modern transmissions. I’m not sure where you’re getting your information, but it’s outdated.
Ok then how is it unreliable when I have a 2011 Dodge Durango hemi awd with 69k miles with no issues and no brake downs
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Had a 2011 V6 Pentastar Journey Crew and engine started knocking at 211K kilometers. Reached out to 5 dealers and independent repair shops and either they didn’t want to touch it or they were asking $1200+++ to start working on it.
So decided to buy a Subaru Crosstrek 2019. AWD is not so bad for Quebec winters but will replace this POS with a Dodge Durango 2021 GT AWD.
Can’t stand the noise in the subie and hard riding.
@@luminaire7085 the rod knock was covered under warranty in the USA. Some models of the 2011-2013 pentastars needed new cylinder heads due to the noise you described. It was covered under warranty for 10 years or 150,000k miles. Sounds like Chrysler didn’t extend that coverage to your country. However, it was a common fix for the USA, and was completely rectified with the 2013 engine revamping.
That Toyota really sucks!
Toyota crap.
Fake four-wheel drive from Toyota