Infertility, Suffering, and Hagar
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2023
- A few years back, the Perrys started a series on the podcast called “Teach the Text,” and that’s the format of today’s new episode. Jackie teaches through Genesis 16 - the story of Hagar, Abram, and Sarai - reflecting on the unique questions that only a woman might think to ask of this text. Jackie and Preston discuss impatience, idolatry, and misplaced hope, at the end pointing us to the God who sees us in our suffering.
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I love how "30 minutes with the Perry's" is steadily becoming "1 hour with the Perry's" 😂❤
Amen & Amen. I just starting watching their teachings @ a month ago and they joyfully fill up my days as I work from home at this time (pray for me Saints I don’t want to return to anyone’s office) . I’ve stopped w/ the fashion videos/hauls and Snowfall (b/c it’s over - I’m not that delivered from the wratched TV sometimes)😂. God Is So Good and this content is blessing me.
And it’s me thinking for the last couple of months that they had rebranded to “With the Perrys” bc there is no more 30mins 😂.. I dig it either way.
Right! 😂 gone head make it an hour!
Eventually it will be 30
Years with the Perry
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This is offtopic but I hope one day we can see a conversation between Stephanie Ike and Jackie about the spiritual realm especially dreams since both of them are dreamers.
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Plss!!
Yess please I agree.
Yes I agree ☝️
They are both excellent women of God. To God be the glory!🙏❤🙏❤
“Let the text, help you understand the text.”- JHP.
The way y’all
just unpacked this word together. Whew!!!! Did y’all catch how they also spoke about being in bed praying and discussing the text? This kind of love and honor for each other, plus breaking down the word? It’s remarkable. God Bless y’all. PS: the videographer did that with the tight shots. ❤
Right!?!?!?!?!
Jackie is like C.S. Lewis for me.. their messages are so simply said but so profound that it sits with you for days. Also, I feel like I need a thesaurus and a dictionary nearby. 😅
Beautifully said. Their brilliance is definitely on par with C. S. Lewis!
The Abrupt endings always get me because no way yall teaching the text that good then just be like bye 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Im still processing.
Good teaching! ❤️
I thought the same. It’s was to good to leave that fast😂
Same here it’s too funny, like WHOA okay we’re done here alright alright 😂 😎
Right! Like wait a min lol I love it! So down to earth and real
This is me right now 😂
This really blessed me. I think we also skip over the fact that Hagar was pregnant when she left to make this incredibly long journey back to Egypt. I believe it would have been more dangerous for Hagar to go to Egypt prematurely than to go back and submit, have the baby, etc. God did consider her safety and the safety of the baby.
I honestly struggle with this Hagar story, really difficult for me. However, when I read through Genesis the phrase the Lord who sees me stood out clearly. He sees me, He sees everything and He is still Sovereign.
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Me too! I actually use that phrase in deep prayer calling my God the God Who sees me no matter how anyone sees me or misunderstands me.
This analysis is soooo thorough!! Jackie is so inspiring in breaking down biblical texts. It's like taking critical theory of art in university but for the bible instead. Thank you God for speaking through her. ❤
Yes, the breakdown is so serious!!
9:17 Sounds like August really took ‘People do not live by bread alone...' to heart😂😭
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"That's the beautiful picture of the gospel: she [Hagar] wasn't looking for God, but God was looking for her." *insert tear drops* That is heart-melting and Truth!
Jackie and Preston…I just want you guys to know how much of an encouragement you are on this platform. All glory goes to him. You guys are rockin it. God bless you and your most precious family ❤ love y’all so much!!!!
“if we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:”
2 Timothy 2:12
I learned something tonight that I had never heard. The first thing is the difference between a prescriptive context versus a descriptive context. The second is the tendency to want to glean something new and fresh within a scripture that we may read far more into it than what’s actually being said. This was a fantastic, thought-provoking message.
This was so so good! Can’t believe this video was shot in May. Just goes to show you that God’s word is so refreshing then, now, and tomorrow! God’s word is being taught in this video. Praise God for Preston and Jackie!!!
This was such a powerful episode on so many levels. It was like a bible class with lots of modern story-like context. As a man, I never would have even thought about how Sarai was feeling due to her inability to bear a child. This lesson went home many levels.
Thanks the Perrys!
OK, but speak only for yourself, brother.
“She doesn’t have anymore patience. You don’t have any more patience to wait on the timing of the Lord” ooooo this hit me hard!!!
Real hard 😢
"We've all had seasons where if they were written in books people would judge us." 😫 Absolutely true. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I mean, I'm willing to comprise and y'all just have special hour or hour and half episodes... 😁
Wow. Preston's comment about the progressive work of sanctification 🙌🙌👍👏👏👏
Another gem!!! That breaking down of the repetitive behaviour of Sarai and Abram and their couple dynamic…whewwww.
I can only say thank you both for sharing ❤🙌🏻🙏
Please do more of these Bible studies. I enjoyed this!❤
One of the BEST studies from you guys thus far. God is WAY TOO good to us.
I always thought I would be married and have children. I believe I got a promise from the Lord at 25ish for a husband. I waited,but got in a sinful relationship in my late 30s. I got pregnant but had a miscarriage. God has given me 3 names beforehand. He told me after one of the names was the baby I lost. I am now 51 going through perimenapause and not married yet. I got out of that relationship over 10nyrs ago and still waiting and believing. And yes the feeling of not being good enough is something I struggle with.
❤. Praying God encourages you.
The devil is a LIAR. The LORD loves us unconditionally beyond our extremely finite minds & comprehension, He's all about you. One thing that we must humbly accept is that when we read how 🤔 the LORD says we're to love the LORD with all our hearts, minds, strength and to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. I can even say that regardless of how many times I've read this scripture... something in me glossed over the part about loving myself. Many times many of our brothers & sisters in Christ JESUS do the same almost like mechanically robotics. It's as if we're not including ourselves in a posture of recognizing that when the WORD specifically tells us to "Touch not My anointed & do my prophets no harm"... And that His Prophets & His Anointed includes *(us) we're included on the ticket & package. So 🤷 this means that we're Offending Him by our self-hatred, the ugly things that we say to & towards ourselves the very creation which He created 🤔 for His Glory = *(us)unfortunately 💔 we're numbered among this group. Yeah, it can be painful 😢 being confronted by how we truly feels about ourselves really. The LORD is the SPIRIT of TRUTH, we're 🙌 to worship Him in Spirit & TRUTH, He desires Truth in our inward parts. The Truth about how 🤔 we feel about ourselves. We can't continue running from this, its fluid and its inevitably going to manifest itself as the tell-tale that it is. I'm being honest here because I've dealt with this for many many years. But the LORD is the Redeemer of time because He's eternal, He created time for our benefit. Someone said something so impacting like splashing bleach on my thought processes that is such an eye opener because the LORD can & most definitely will blow our minds 🤯 with the lavished love that He submerges us in Himself. Anywho, someone spoke that when we practice unforgiveness towards ourselves and tormenting ourselves unknowingly its as if we're inflicting ourselves as if the Precious Sinless Pure Blood of JESUS CHRIST wasn't effective nor efficient in His Perfect Sacrificing of Himself... Seriously elucidate on this point... see we really need to just roll this over because this is so deeply profound what our negative actions 🎬 against ourselves imply that 💯% of what Christ JESUS willingly did for all of humanity, past present & future was somewhat lacking in deficiency to save us. WOW 👏 LORD again I REPENT because you already gave Your Very Best Gift 🎁 JESUS CHRIST 🙌 and He rose from the dead... He is the RESURRECTION He neatly folded up those grave clothes and we need to abandon ours, and follow You LORD, GLORY to GOD. Hallelujah 🙌
You’re so loved and precious ❤️praying Gods restores you and helps you see yourself through His eyes ❤
@@jeaninerichardson7179Wow....this is deeply profound and revelatory. Thank you
The piece about abusive women and repeating trauma patterns....learned behaviour oooh I felt that... I'm feeling that. 🙇♀️🙏Hagar is treated as less than like you say dehumanised.
This is amazing. This is my first time since accepting Jesus actually reading the whole
Bible. I just finished genesis and I was so confused on the WHY, but these discussions are so powerful and really put things into perspective
So crazy that Abram’s lack of trust in God to protect him and his wife opened the door for the very temptation Sarai faced in waiting on God. Not only did it provide the strategy, but also it provided Hagar because she was a gift that resulted from Abram’s lack of trust. Wow wow wow. I’ve never seen that revelation before today. So good.
You both always make me want to study the Bible more and I appreciate it. God bless you both. This was so rich
JACKY .... YOU MAKE GOD LOOK SO WONDERFUL
Did Preston just say, “you better teach your pretty little face off”?😂
I love how he compliments her!
I was searching for this comment.. That made me grin so hard!! So happy for her like she ma big sister.. 😊
This is my 4th time listening to this and I'm still finding new understanding thanks to you guys.
The work you guys are doing is beautiful.
Thank you so much. Glory to God.
26:00 !!! THE WAY JACKIE BROKE THAT DOWN 👏🏾
so i’ve been trying to read the bible, i’m making my way through exodus but as you were going through Hagars story, it felt different actually being able to understand the connections you were making because i had already read and somewhat studied the text myself.. it just makes me exited to keep reading and seeing how the text also explains the text. feeling a different kind of excitement, it’s like fire under my feet.
I LITERALLY watched this for 2+ hours. I kept rewatching particular sections because it got my attention. The bottom line is this, find Jesus in the text and teach that!
I LOVE this Pod 🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Growing up, my mom was the twice a year Christian. Christmas and Easter... As an adult I have gone to church on my own here and there. I've Always felt God near even I shouldn't have. As a mom I Iove taking my kids. I love my church family. It's so important to share the lord with the kids.. it helps my kids have a different perspective of life. It helps them decide and choose better for themselves. Is there temptation, most definitely! And knowing God has them gives them strength and integrity.
I like Bible Studies With The Perry’s! 😂! More of this please it was so edifying. The two of you are blessed by God that you can both reason with each other about the things of God.
I love how she taught about Hannah. I reference her time and again when I share with people about prayer
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the way you both fall into each others perspectives and encourage one another to push through with your revelation. You can literally see it minister to each of you back and forth. GOD is Amazing! Love yall
What a mighty God we serve. To God be the glory. Thanks for sharing this message. ❤🙏❤🙏❤
I listened on spotify and this came at just the right time. Thank you for preaching!
Me too!
Same here ❤️
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I love how Jackie has such a profound love and curiosity for the Word ❤
Oh my goodness this was good!! "Impatience is the root of idolatry "
Excellent teaching 👏🏽
"His Only Son" tells this Bible story beautifully ✨️
It’s especially harder when your a dreamer i has a dream a woman in church who been barren 12 years pushing 45 whose Married will have twins! I haven’t seen the manifestation but I approach and encouraged her and honestly I even told her maybe God wants her to be open for adoption as well even I was discouraged their still been no baby’! However she birthed a ministry that’s very successful so it could also be that I saw a baby ministry being birthed maybe my interpretation was off 😊
The Perrys ateeeee with this study. Tewwww good. Thankful for the Holy Spirit gracing you both to teach with such depth, nuance and integrity, that points back to Jesus. Bless you both!
A PROFOUND WORD. Thank you for your obedience to God
The way you unpacked Genesis 12 and 16 Sheesh!!!!
Also Preston’s point about how God found Hagar even when she wasn’t looking for him brought tears to my eyes. It just struck me. God finds all of us and has seen all of us even when we weren’t looking for him and CHOSE to reveal himself to us. Thank you God for your self-disclosure.
I like that thought when God asks us/me a question, He is inviting you/me/us into a conversation with Him.
I’ve just been reading Genesis so I just read Hagar this week 🔥🙌🏾
Let me say this y’all church should be disciplining ministry❤ the teaching you two impart inspires listeners to understand and want to know more- knowing more make me want to only part take everyday all day. Thank you got your diligence ❤️🙏🏽Disciple Teaching Ministry, in Atlanta somewherr🫶
I agree, their interaction with each other and with the text is both awesome and inspiring. What a great example what God is able to do with willing vessels. Praise the Lord and thank you so much for sharing your time and gifts so unselfishly. ❤❤❤
I heard that , ‘we all have seasons that people will judge us for if there were written in a book’
Y’all dropping these back to back and I’m loving it! Thank you for sacrificing the time away from your family to attend to the one you’ve created online❤
Another's one? 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I thank God for the topics and the oprness from you both! It's truly a blessing to me and helping me be vulnerable with th my wife
The way Preston mumbled under his breathe I felt that 😂😂 “That’s not my sister” 😂😂😂
Can i just say that i love these videos, God continue to bless the Perry's 🙏🏿🙏🏿 Thank you for working through them to spread your word father. ❤
Uff demasiado bueno. Cuando Dios te pregunta no es porque no sabe, es dandote la oportunidad de confesar.
Sigan dejándose usar por Dios 🫶👌🏼
Dios los bendiga ❤
Rushing to look for your old "Teach the text" videos. This is gold.
I was in my car, didn't pull over lol but listened to it and now home and listening again to take notes.
Whoa!! This one was GOLD! Such a blessing to have this kind of teaching in my lifetime. Inspires me to get disciplined and get in the word myself!
START with the premise that GOD IS GOOD!! To help with the hard stuff
i am exactly like Jackie… reasons why daily devotion is so hard for me… opening up one verse over 3 hours 😭😭😭
God surely put you together for his Glory. This was So ANOINTED!! This spoke to my soul.
"No wonder the text said she was thirsty!" LOL you guys!
I just love the way Jackie explained the Bible ...more grace to you sis🙏
It’s the way they preached that thing at the end into the RAFTERS and was so chill abt it!! Like what?!?!?
I so enjoyed this teaching. Either I didn’t know or remember that Moses wrote Genesis. I learned so much about Abram, Sarai, and Hagar. This was so good!
I am saving this to my watch later so I can have it to watch on repeat and find it easily. THIS was so good. I am totally in awe of God after watching this!
Y’all betta be each others Amen Corner I LOVE IT! The teaching was awesome, as usual. I will see you September in Dallas!
Jackie pls consider writing a book on these 3 fellows. This teaching is for men, and women.
Misplaced hope - WOW!!!
After this there’s Glory, YES SIR!
Wow what an unpacking of an overlooked part of Genesis. My heart hurt when I read about Hagar (I felt so sorry for her)
This is so good … the Lord knows, but yet he went to talk to Hagar!🙌🏾❤️
Y’all are so cute … it’s good to see y’all talk about the Lord and flirt with each other . #marriageworks ❤❤
Jackie you did this text justice💯 thank you so much.
I have a question could u maybe do a teaching going over the chapter of 1 Samuel nd going over one of David’s wives Micahl and how in the Bible it talks about her bitterness etc and maybe breaking it down?
Maybe they could spread it wider, "David and Saul's daughters"
Thankyou Jackie and Preston. I’m a mature Christian in New Zealand. The Lord is teaching me such a lot through you two, especially in how to interpret the tough verses. I sure don’t mind when this is longer than 30 mins.
This was absolutely a blessing, Praise God for such knowing and revelation He gives through His word. This was inspiring and encouragement for a deeper seeking when reading His word. P.s please do more hour long studies with us, Lord willing! I loved this.
Powerful! I could listen to you two all day.
Jesus! This was definitely needed… I thank God for your obedience in knowing when to share this 💗! Hope that you all have an amazing day
I have heard different pastors and specific deliverance ministers talk about how 'marine spirits' can affect fertility. One day we will have an encyclopedia of these truths so that we can diagnose spiritual alongside the 'physical'.
66 minutes with the Perry's 😅.
Such a beautiful ending.😊
God bless you guys❤
I love you two. I could feel the warmth of y'all's home in this video. Bless y'all
Love this video so much. Woman at the well is in John 4. This is so deep and great for any woman who has felt that she was not given dignity by one or more people. God sees each person, male or female, even when people sometimes don't. Matthew 6:25-34 & Matthew 6:5-24 Jesus talks about living for God first and then trusting Him, who is our heavenly Father, with our lives.
This teaching was so deep. My spirit consumed all of this good Word!
Preston put some of those bucket hats with the patches on bold apparel
Thank you both for your exegetical theology. I love how you consistently maintain the context of the text. The Bible says Iron sharpens iron...Mannnn do I feel sharpened this morning! Be continually blessed Team Perry!🧡🧡🧡
This was such a good word! I know that God have spoken words in my life that has not came to pass jus yet. I started to lose faith. But in the mist of me going through a rough season this word came forth. That even through my difficulties Hod still sees me! So even though this show was done in May. It was definitely an on time word for me now!
I'm hoping that one day Pastor Jackie will preach about THE CHALLENGES OF STILL WAITING FOR MARRIAGE AFTER 40, THINKING OF THE REDUCTUON OF YOUR EGGS AND ITS QUALITY". Some real word in these times.
I want you both to know that you've ministered to me on this night. I praise God for you both. This has helped me.
God ask us questions, to allow us to confess, and also I believe to hold ourselves accountable.
agreed with the accountability part and I believe that GOD also ask questions for us to see who are in HIM..showing us that what we think about ourselves base on world view or logic isn't how HE sees us in the spirit.
I love when GOD ask me questions cause it reveal a me than isn't me...removing the darkness from my spirit and using HIS light to become the light that he created me in the beginning.
Could you Guys make a podcast explaining the Bride of Christ, God being a husband, and all that
This was a great episode!!! Many of the holes I’ve had with this text were answered! Thank you both so much!
I need part 2 please... This literally could have been a 2 hour podcast. In depth. This is encouraging, sad, and yet GOD Kept his promise. Can YOU please go into depth of Hagar. And then Rizpah (NO ONE SPEAKS OF RIZPAH....Ever, perhaps because she's considered a "Minor character", perhaps because her story is too short or small or just doesn't have the "beef" that people can either understand, interpret, and/or her significance is again, minor. But her story, to me is POWERFUL.
I am absolutely loving this discussion. It is such a complex and sensitive subject, full of meat. Jackie made such a good point, regarding the ownness of barrenness being on the Lord because he is the giver of life, YET he is entirely good and He honours his words. The two statements feel like an oxymoron. A childless woman could be bitter towards the Lord or leave their faith because of the pain of being childless. So, handling the text through the lenses of God's nature and the heart of his spirit is vital and necessary to bring healing instead of separation. I am in this very position, but this subject and passage breathe hope and faith into me. If he is the giver of life and fruitfulness of the womb comes from him, not me, not my husband or a doctor. I am confident that all things are working for my good. My heart is broking daily, but it is working for my good, I feel ashamed sometimes, but it's still working for my good. Thank you, Lord, 🙏🏾
🙏🏽🧎🏾♀️This touched me so deeply. So many times I welled 😢up and wanted to just pour out to My Father in heaven through the Holy Spirit because words could not communicate what my heart wanted to say. "Being loved by God does not absolve us of difficulty"--Jackie❤
As a Christian woman, sexually abused for years, diagnosed as infertile, this whole teaching hit different. I am Sarai, and Hagar. And I very often question why God would allow these issues to be part of my story. I am trying to remain faithful but even in my spiritual maturity, I still struggle.
This is so good. My favorite part of all of your pods is the way you guys are able to lean into each other's strengths!
Enjoyed going deeper into this text with you both. It was a beautiful hour of learning and laughter but mostly learning 😊
Y’all are both so dope!! I love when you said Jesus showed us the heart of the Father, so we go into difficult text with this context and it helps us see the goodness of God!! ❤ He’s always good, so when I struggle with a situation that isn’t comfortable I realize I am seeing things in a wrong perspective.
Psalm 139 really deeply explains that God sees me,that God sees us
May his name be praised ❤️
We too are Called out, to become who God has for us to truly be, His.
😂❤Just love you guys, wisdom and humor!!! Love you guys, thanks for being obedient living sacrifices for our Lord, may you always stay faithful xxx❤🙏
THIS RIGHT HERE!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥