60 Mind-Blowing Harry Potter Plot Holes (MEGA COMPILATION)
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- Welcome to a SPECIAL episode of Harry Potter Theory. Today we’re going to be going back and taking a look at 60 Harry Potter Plot Holes discussed on the channel over the last few years. I’ve cut some out for an even 60, so please be aware of some inconsistent numbering. Also, I’ve tried my best to level out the audio across the videos, but in some instances there is a bit of variation.
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This is more “plot holes if you didn’t read the books”
Right
The last plothole -- how did Sirius buy Harry's broom? -- was explained quite well in the book. Sirius explained to Harry that Crookshanks delivered the order form, and that Sirius included instructions to take the gold from Sirius' vault at Gringott's. Goblins wouldn't have helped the Ministry track down a wizard. Goblins wouldn't have cared.
This guy really doesnt seem to know all thatuch about Harry Potter
@@FabricatedPheonix It does seem that he is a bit inconsistent about canon. Sometimes he seems to take the movies as canon; less often he seems to use book canon.
From the beginning list: Harry DID try to contact Sirius after his vision. He used Umbridge's fireplace and spoke to Kreacher who lied to him about Sirius's whereabouts.
Exactly!!
I'm sure the point he's making is that there were EASIER ways to contact him. Why did JK make a point to tell us Sirius gave him a 2 way mirror to talk to him ANYTIME he wanted, for Harry to never use this exact mode of communication with Sirius, especially under such huge time restraints??? THat's the plot hole. That's the point in mentioning it. Duh.
@@taylor7454Harry didn’t know he had the mirror until after Sirius was dead, and he was going through his school trunk. He never opened the package while Sirius was alive.
There's also a line by Harry, when Sirius gives him the packet (mirror) and tells him to use it if he needs Sirius.Sirius doesn't tell him what it was, Harry says to himself, that whatever that packet contains, he wont use it if it endangers Sirius.
I don't exactly remeber where in the book it is, Maybe that was after he knew that Draco has recognised Sirius.
@@DaemonJulian No he didn't but he knew that it contained the means to contact Sirius. That's why he vowed never to use it.
A weird thing I remember was how petunia talked about lily using magic when she came home for the summer but that should have been illegal
Yup they use magic by accident all the time. Harry blew up his aunt before year3, in the books before his first year he did alot. Kids cant control their magic, thats why they go to school
Maybe the Ministry hadn't established the Trace back then?
My thought was always that she was able to get away with it because she lived next to Snape’s family who are magical
@@sweep_swoopor she used it by snape and they were outside there house
I think the laws were different then
The reason why the pensive doesn't work is because Fudge was determined to not publicly acknowledge he was back. fudge knew he was back but didn't want to admit it. Barty crouch junior was captured, we had Cedric's body, and both Harry and mad eye could testify Voldemort is back. However fudge was not unaware of Voldemorts return he simply refused to admit it
Mrs. Weasley knew the platform number. She was just giving Genny a chance to pipe in with "9 3/4!" so that she would feel included.
Was going to say that. She was engaging the youngest daughter and making her feel helpful.
People try to nitpick minor details when it's simply just Molly being a mother. Carlin bros make it seem to be part of a huge complex plan of Dumbledore
So then why did she ask loud enough to have it carry like that?
Either Dumbledore planned almost everything or he is the dumbest most unobservant passive bastard out there.
@@andylee6022well most muggles would assume she is delusional.
@@mlpfanboy1701 True. But my argument was it is a little too convenient that Molly potentially breaks the statute were Harry has been left with no information on how to get to the platform. She is also a strong supporter of his. Non-pureblood and light sided. Ron would reinforce Slytherin bad.
A lot of "convenient" situations happen around Harry that helps him grow in the way that Albus wants him to.
I think the best explanation for the Stone argument is that Flamel wasn’t ready to give it up quite yet but because he saw how dangerous it would be in the wrong hands it convinced him to let Albus destroy it
or albus could have lied about it being destroyed. he's good at that.
On Colin's camera: Old cameras work by a basic chemical reaction. The lens focuses light on to the film, and the silver in the film reacts. If the magic affected the camera, then potions wouldn't work either. Or any other normal chemical reaction. Tou wouldn't even need to polish any sort of metal, because it would never oxidize.
I think that Petunia knew more than she ever let on, because, after all, she didn't want Vernon and her son to see her as a “freak.”She was happy to keep her lips sealed about anything that she may have known.
I think Snape didn't say anything about the potion's book, because if Harry had found out that it was Sanpe's, it might have led Harry on a trail to his identity, that he knew his mother, and who Eileen Prince was, which was what Sanpe wanted to be kept from Harry at all costs.
Voldemort showed up at the ministry because he was called for help, and probably by Bellatrix. Tom still lost several of his inner circle that night, with only Bellatrix escaping.
Not all locks can be unlocked with the unlocking spell, even using certain dodgy knives. Harry found that out while in the DoM.
Harry did try to contact Sirius, via Umbridge's floo, where Kreacher lied to Harry about Sirius' whereabouts. Harry didn't remember the mirror until he was packing to leave, where he broke it. Plus, his scar was burning, which addled his thoughts.
They flat screwed up on Minerva's age.
Polyjuice potion takes six months to brew, if I recall, and he would have needed the ingredients. Sirius could have tried to obtain some from one of the Order's members, but I'd say that Dumbledore told them not to help him leave No. 12.
The portkey in the tournament was not a timed portkey, it triggered on touch. Barty made sure that Harry would reach it first.
Neither Minerva nor Hagrid wished to leave Harry at the Dursleys, that was all Dumbledore's doing, and he was too cowardly to ring the doorbell. However, it was said that Minerva spent the night watching over things until Petunia found him the next morning. Remember, Dumbledore ordered them to not speak to the Dursleys, they were supposed to be left alone. Something was off about Albus and this.
It looks like, from the Cursed Child, that Tom may have been interested in Time Turners, as a plot was made after their destruction in the DoM, to construct one between Malfoy, Nott, and, I think, Rookwood.
Stating the above, a big plot hole was the abduction of Fortescue. JKR wrote about him, and why he was to be used. Fortescue was well-trained in magical history, and was another seeker of the Deathly Hallows. He would have been who Tom tortured for information about the Hallows, and especially, where he found out about the Elder Wand. JKR left it be, and didn't mention why he was taken.
I think you’re correct about the portkey not being timed. However, portkeys are only supposed to go one way. Touching it again doesn’t activate them to return to their place of origin (or somewhere else). But when Harry touched the Triwizard cup a second time it takes him to the entrance of the maze in front of the entire school. Therefore, when Crouch Jr (as Moody) bewitched the cup, he planned to have it take anyone who touched it first to the graveyard, then to the front of the maze. Voldemort obviously wanted to kill Harry that night, so who was meant to take that return trip?
@@romileever8885 There was another portkey made by Dumbledore for Harry when the battle at the DoM was over. It was made in front of Fudge.
However, I can't remember if it was by touch, though I think it was, or by time. It could have also used a trigger word, but I can't remember without rereading the chapter.
@@romileever8885Pettigrew as an imposter so they didn’t realise Harry died
The train only
departing from London is no big deal if you have a flloo-network i think.
snapes potion boos i think was kept by him as a perspnal thing and ended up in the school's stock by accident, i think.
I forget the book, but... as for the poor wizards segment, it was shown they don't conjure the food, at least thats what i was led to believe in my multiple read throughs. I thought the house elves made it in the kitchens and Dumbledore merely relocated it to the tables via magic
Yes the elves cook the food and it's apparated up to tie tables
@@emjayee Yes, that was all revealed in the books with the whole SPEW storyline that was totally cut out of the movies.
A lot of these aren't actually plot holes, unless you've only watched the movies. Pottermore explains most of them, and even if you haven't read the books some of them are just common sense
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If you need to fix your plot holes on a website after you finished your series, nobody is taking you serously lol
@@michalnavratil5961yeah it’s not like lord of the rings did that… let’s ignore all the letters he sent that explained plot holes
@@stevenburton5850name a single plot hole In lord of the rings that isn't explained during the book or rooted in common sense
@@daniel15yearsago66that was the point of this first comment 🤦♂️
#5 I can explain why Dumbledore wasn’t concerned about Hagrid borrowing Sirius’ bike. It’s because that happened before Sirius had cornered Pettigrew. Only after that was Sirius presumed to have been the traitor.
Me at 1 AM, while having to get up to work at 6:
😂
You will need a dose of felix felicis tomorow
Bloody hell that's cutting it close may need a time turner😂
@@Knowledge.to_Come omg yes i do lol.
lol
Harry didn’t know about the two/way mirror until after Sirius’s death.
Yea. . . I came down here to say this too.
But he knew he could contact Sirius with it
@@vignotum132 He forgot he had it. He didnt remeber he had it until he accidentally broke it after Siris' death
@@FabricatedPheonix I know. So say that instead of “he didn’t know”
I think Harry never remembering that gift until Sirius’ death is a big plot hole. I have used a footlocker before while traveling. They are not huge, so there is no excuse he went 9-10 months without ever seeing the gift and going “that’s right, he gave me a present”. Especially once he pulled out all of his clothing and school supplies… also, there is no reason Sirius didn’t say once during the several risky encounters they had “Harry, why aren’t you using the gift I gave you instead of putting yourself at risk”
For the sirius polyjuice theory: first it takes about a month to produce and most often sirius acted for instant gratification. He was impatient and decided things on a whim. Also, though it was easy for the trio to make in COS, they had the advantage of having most of the ingredients readily available and stole the rest. How was sirius supposed to get ingredients when he was confined at home and others didnt want him out so they wouldnt help him
It was also not simple to make. Harry had Hermione, who is constantly told to be the brightest witch of their age, brew the potion. The potion was also a N.E.W.T level potion as mentioned in Half-Blood Prince.
@@thershaysoni947 I'm pretty sure black got 10-12 owls/newts when he tested.
The reason why Dementors affected Harry so much was because he was having Voldemort's fear of death being triggered by them. Since he already had part of his soul it was what made him even more special to the Dementors because they were interested in such a being. It might be a combination to that the scream of his mother was enough to terrify harry.
What if the screams where from someone voldy tortured ?
In the 3rd movie, when sirius is getting soul sucked by 1dementor, you can see 2 dementors come to harry, because he has 2 souls in him…
@@emerald9823 The scream I think was voldemort's moment in his memory of when he realized that he might die. Since she just died at that moment by screaming. Any child hearing a scream like that would be scared too because of the sudden high pitch.
I thought so too, but Voldemort says dementors are his natural Allies, which still doesn't add up because they sure sucked the soul right out of his death eater Barty crouch jr
@@Jamesbull46 dementors suck all happiness out, so yes they ally to voldemort because they sense no happiness or soul to suck out of him. Also, he offers to feed them almost unlimited muggle borns. He delivered on his promise when he had muggle borns go to the ministry to be accused of stealing their magic even if ollivander really did sell them their wands and learned it at hogwarts. Then they would be given the dementors kiss after this accusation.
A Canon lens on a Sony camera, that is magic !!
I’m assuming this is just about the movies? It’s specifically stated in the books that you can’t see inside common rooms on the Marauders map, this would make seeing Peter Petegrew nearly impossible as he stayed inside the common room for the majority of the first 3 books. Also there’s the whole “he only shows up for people that know he’s an animagus” thing, which means Fred and George wouldn’t have been able to see him anyway.
Where does it say that?
No, Molly wasn't trying to remember the platform number, she was teaching a 10 year old Ginny to remember where she is to find platform 9 3/4 and in turn helped Harry after he asked her.
One thing i always thought of in Chamber of Secrets is that apparently Hogwarts is the only supply of mandrakes as they have to wait the entire year for their mandrakes to mature to bring back the victims of the basilisk.
I sometimes wonder if Charlie wasn't dead in earlier drafts of Philosopher's Stone and that's why Ron got his old wand. Alternatively, maybe Charlie has a different kind of wand now, for working with dragons. Maybe one that has an exchangeable core, so that he can switch out the heartstring to correspond with whatever kind of Dragon he's working with at the time.
A few more which weren't mentioned.
- Draco Malfoy's greatest fear about the Forbidden Forest is werewolves. However, werewolves are human when there is no full moon. Do actual humans live in the Forest, or what?
- Salazar Slytherin planned to get Hogwarts rid of Muggle-borns, but only them. How did he know the Basilisk that can kill anyone with its gaze, won't meet anyone he wouldn't want to hurt?
- Why can't Sirius Black, one of the most talented former Hogwarts student, disguise himself after his escape from Azkaban?
- Why does Barty Crouch Jr want to kill Harry after he left the maze? As a Death Eater, he should know Voldemort wants to kill Harry himself.
- Why can't Voldemort and his Death Eaters, most wanted people of the Wizarding World, use any disguise upon the Ministry heist?
- Tom Riddle is, according to the lore, past his second Horcrux when he asks Slughorn about the effects of multiple Horcruxes. What use is that info for him at that point? He already entered a one-way road.
- Levicorpus is a non-verbal spell. It it's Snape's invention, as he claims it to be, how did the Marauders learn it to use it against Snape?
- Why don't the Death Eaters capture Harry after Snape defeats him in the battle after Dumbledore's death? Snape does have a reason not to, but the others don't.
- Is Nagini immortal? If not, it makes no sense why Voldemort sentences a shard of his soul to die with her.
- Why is Nagini disguised as Bathilda Bagshot of all people in Godric's Hollow? Voldemort doesn't know Harry will need Bathilda's help.
- Nagini's venom kills Snape within minutes, but Harry, also bitten by Nagini, survives it. Not to mention, Nagini shouldn't bite Harry, as Voldemort, who has direct control over her, wants to kill Harry himself.
1. As a young boy, I doubt he knew that. There were probably only werewolf cubs there and a rumour to keep people out of the forest
2. The opener of the chamber would probably target a single person, guiding the basilisk who could just look downwards while using it’s sense of smell
3. There aren’t THAT many people in each house, they’d realise if a stranger walked in, even if disguised. The dementors also aren’t fooled, and Sirius doesn’t have access to neither a wand nor potions ingredients
4. None of them knew until after his resurrection, right? Even if they did, he was young and probably only a fringe death eater until he sacrificed a life sentence in Azkaban for Voldemort
4. Good question
5. To reassure himself, to see if it’d get worse after even more than just two
6. Probably spread with his Slytherin gang and then got leaked. Or else they reversed-engineered it; levicorpus just means levitate body and liberacorpus just means free body.
7. Also good question
8. Her dead body would probably still work fine
9. He might’ve guessed he’d turn to Bathilda if he returned. Or he needed a magical person to bewitch the body or an old lonely person as to not be suspicious
10. Maybe she could control her venom? Also Snape was bit multiple times, and Arthur survived a similar attack. Her venom could be very weak and only stop non-magic attempts at stemming blood flow (as with Arthur)
Voldemort knew Harry would've visited Godric's Hollow, it was predictable. The real plothole is HOW Nagini was so powerful, what kind of magic was that? It was way too OTT. And why would Voldemort let Nagini out of his sight? He could've just used an imperius curse in Bathilda so she would send him a mesage whenever Harry showed up there. 😅
1. Excerpt from the Werewolves page on wizarding world website:
Such a litter was once set free, under conditions of extreme secrecy, in the Forbidden Forest at Hogwarts, with the kind permission of Albus Dumbledore. The cubs grew into beautiful and unusually intelligent wolves and some of them live there still, which has given rise to the stories about ‘werewolves’ in the Forest - stories none of the teachers, or the gamekeeper, has done much to dispel because keeping students out of the Forest is, in their view, highly desirable.
This is the problem with building large worlds full of mcguffins like magic. An author's main goal is to create a series of dilemmas for the characters to resolve on their way through the main story arc. However, there can be times when a tool is introduced - like the time turner or the pensieve - that can help with one plot point, but act as a hole for a future plot point. As intuitive people, readers will remember incredibly useful things and when they are presented with a new crisis in the story, will immediately begin to think as if they were the characters in the story. What would they do considering all of the tools introduced so far. But only to see the author completely glosses over it. Sometimes authors will forget they even had those things in their story, or a clear justification exists, but just didn't translate well in the narrative.
A McGuffin is a 'goal' object or event in the plot, which sometimes get abandoned once the plot moves on. Time turners and Pensieves are not mcguffins.
For 6 as diagon alley is in London they still have to go there to get their school supplies. And I guess it’s not mandotory to go on the hogwarts express but more of a tradition. So if they go to diagon alley in the end of August and stays in the leaky cauldron and then they go on the Hogwarts express with all their friends it’s a nice end on their summer vacation and start of the school year.
Yeah it’s just the most common way you can make your own way to school by the way of hogwarts ad harry did in tootp by the way of the knight bus
23:38 In the books it explains that after sirius found out that Peter was living with the Weasley’s (he saw the daily prophet article about the Weasley’s winning prize money and going to Egypt), he was heard muttering in his sleep “he’s at Hogwarts” over and over. Fudge thought it was in reference to Sirius wanting to kill Harry, but it’s revealed that Sirius was actually worried about Harry’s safety because he is sharing a dormitory with the man who murdered his parents. So I think that was the major driving force as to why Sirius finally decided to break out. He was only willing to risk it to save Harry
For the Hogwarts express plot hole I think we could reasonably assume that students need new supplies every year before the term starts. They have to go to Diagon Alley as far as we know to get their school supplies and it’s in or around London amiright? If so then it would be a big to-do to go school shopping where we know they should and then hop on the train to get to school. Two birds with one stone kind of trip I guess?
Good points never thought of these plot holes. With the map I heard Fred and George tried lots of word combinations and as they got closer the map would flicker signaling that they were close
Or they overheard filch using it before they decided to steal it from him
@@Knowledge.to_Come I mean I originally heard it from the channel movie flame and he said Rowling had revealed it after the series was done
Lots of “guesswork” as dumbledore called it in the hbp novel
I think Dumbledore played a part in that, knowing it would go to Harry eventually
Filch didn't know how it worked, as the twins pointed out to Harry how he didn't know about all the shortcuts on the map @@Knowledge.to_Come
In this video: HP theory spending an hour explaining how they don't know what a "plot hole" is
LOL did he actually said " why don't they conjure food and money?" ? and you call yourself an HP fan?
I believe Sirius said he used Crookshanks to go to Gringotts with a note to get the gold then purchase the Firebolt.
Or he could have used kreacher, or a member from the order
Smart!!
@@Knowledge.to_Comethe order? They were against him at that point
@@vignotum132 not lupin
@@Knowledge.to_Come what? Lupin believed in Sirius’s guilt until the very night they saw Pettigrew again
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i have a feeling that the unlocking charm. is not ment to be used to much in the magical world but instead in the muggle world. because any place in the magical world thats worth using that charm on most likely has high end locks/charms on the door to prevent that first year spell.
Good point
I think Fred and George figuring out the map can be explained in a simple way. First it was in a Box labeled "extremely dangerous", so naturally they were interested. From the taunting of Snape, we also know it can interact with people that are meddeling with it. So, what if, at some point of Fred and George trying to find out it's secret, it asked: "Do you solemnly swear that you are up to no good?"
Also, that ghost who love to break things. Whatever his name is, he certainly would know James Potter and his gang. And definitely would also join in to wreck havoc at some point, im not surprised if the ghost knew what the password is.
@@jeanneann3545 Peeves isn't a ghost.
@@jeanneann3545Peeves wouldnt help anyone.
So you're saying hagrid mary poppined his way to the island? That's hilarious.
The prophecy specifically says one can not live while the other survives, and in the end the two would have to battle for survival. It makes sense that only Tom can kill that part of his soul in Harry. The basilisk fang would not work on him. The prophecy is very clear.
Charlie’s wand was probably purchased second hand. He would have purchased a new wand when he got a job. He gave the second hand wand to Ron.
My favorite explanation for the Hogwarts Express question is that Platform Nine-and-three-quarters isn't really physically located at King's Cross, but is instead a pocket universe that can be accessed from any train station in the UK.
One Sirius/Hagrid issue that always bugged me was the fact that Hagrid was even there at the Potter house so soon after the attack. Plus, if Sirius had really betrayed the Potters he could have killed Hagrid and then finish off Harry.
Giant blood
thinking about the unbreakable vow, it would seem to me that a person could only enter in to one at a time. imagine a double agent that made dual unbreakable vows-they would conflict rather rapidly and kill the vow keeper
Harry didn't "forget" about the two-way mirror. He just didn't open the package containing it until AFTER Sirius had died, so didn't even know he had that method of contacting him until it was too late.
That being said, there are still a couple plot holes here. Why did Harry not open the package from his beloved godfather as soon as he got back to Hogwarts? Why did he just throw it in his trunk and forget about it? And even if you explain that, why, when Harry used Umbridge's fire to talk to Sirius about Snape's memory, did Sirius not say "just use the mirror to contact me, it's safer"? EVERYONE apparently forgot about the mirror, not just Harry.
49:40 I choose to believe that the same descendant who worked on the plumbing purposefully made them oversized, or spelled them to always allow the basilisk to move in them.
there are a couple of things that can be explained, like how hedwig being allowed to fly constitutes as "using magic" as far as the durselys are concerned, and how the hogwarts syllabus does in fact contain muggle education, but rowling left it out of the planner because it's not interesting enough. also the gaunts have been passing down the responsibility of feeding the basilisk for centuries.
On the Voldemore not using the Unbreakable Vow bit, I think it's because Voldemort knew that it usually required both parties to offer or agree to something in turn, thus, Voldemort would have seen it as a form of shackles that could also kill (not sure if the consequences of breaking the Unbreakable Vow follow the same rules as direct attemps at killing him in regards to his Horcruxes, of which he is otherwise immune so long as even one Horcrux remains) or severely maim him if he failed to fulfill his end of the bargain.
Moreover, Voldemort HATED being indebted to anyone, and he certainly didn't have any feelings of loyalty or true comraderie with his followers, who were expected to be loyal to him but whom he would have no problem killing if they failed him or even simply on a whim.
This, I believe, is the reason Voldemort never used the Unbreakable Vow on his followers.
Ron got Charlie's wand, but Charlie also got that wand from someone else (maybe a deceased family member), when he graduated he or his parents bough him a new wand that actually fitted him
17:09 the portraits was explained too. The headmasters would get a portrait made before their death. They would spend time with it and imprint themselves onto it
40:48, The most clear explanation is: Dumbledore says that after discussion, he and Nicolas Flamel decided that it was best to destroy the stone. Flamel probably wanted to keep the stone around to be able to continue living, but after learning that Voldemort tried to use it to get back, he sacrificed his life to stop Voldemort.
Okay so about the HBP text book, there's a simple explanation. All students (so far as the author has explained) know in advance the textbooks they need to buy. So there is probably a very rare instance in which a student needs to borrow one. Snape the former potions master probably put his copy in the stack of school copies simply to store it never thinking a student would happen upon it since 1 he taught the class and would recognize if someone had picked it up and 2 he thought he would never teach another subject. However, he got the DADA post and promptly changed his classroom without having given any thought to his old textbook, because it would be on Slugnorn to make sure the Advanced Potions student were sorted out
The reason Sirius escaped when he saw Peter is because he knew he was at Hogwarts with Harry and he didn't want Peter giving him over to Voldemort. As far as why he didn't escape sooner, he was probably depressed that one of his friends was responsible for killing 2 other friends
What if the spell or ritual of receiving the dark mark "tattoo" involved some form of the unbreakable vow?
If this were the case, then it would close the obvious plot hole of why Voldemort didn't use the unbreakable vow.
Obviously, this solution opens a new plot hole for how could Snape become a double agent. However, I think that the manner in which Snape betrayed Voldemort would close this hole as well.
Snape never directly lied to Voldemort or "actively" betrayed him. Snape had earned Voldemort's trust while he was a fully committed death eater. When he turned double agent for Dumbledore, he never lied to Voldemort. He told him the truth; just not the entirety of the truth.
Remember that he told Voldemort that Dumbledore had "tried" to turn him traitor. Voldemort ordered Snape to go do it, thinking that with Snape in Dumbledore's trust, he would be able to gain secrets and useful information for him.
He gave Voldemort the truth when questioned about why he couldn't reveal the location of the headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix. He wasn't the secret keeper and therefore couldn't give up the location.
He told Voldemort the real date and time of Harry's escape from the Dursley's to the Weasley's at he beginning of The Deathly Hallows. Even though Voldemort had been given, and believed, different information from the imperioused Thickenese at the ministry.
Yes, Snape was a true master of occlumencey. But I believe that Snape ALWAYS told Voldemort enough of the truth that when he was under the influence of Voldemort's legilimency he only had to use his occlumencey to hide the rest of the truth that he hadn't spoken out loud.
Voldemort only looked into Snape's mind enough to sense the truth of what he had said, but not far enough to discover that last part that he was hiding.
for the one about charlie's wand, I totally agree. it might have made sense to have used his dead uncle's wand, or another wands passed down in the family. We know that dumbledor was buried with the elder wand, but I tihnk it is strange that wands aren't passed down more often, even if only as mementos.
I have a possible theory for why Dumbledore didn't ask myrtle. Myrtle didn't originally inhabit Hogwarts, she only went there after she was forced to desist from terrorising one of her former classmates by the ministry. So it's possible Dumbledore never knew that she was the ghost of the person who died
Regarding the fourth theory with the Marauders Map: I think Lupin would have known Hermione owned a Time Turner that year, since he was part of the staff. Whether he knew something larger was at hand, with the time travelling Harry and Hermione, i dont know if he would've connected the dots.
For how the Basilisk got around the school using the pipes:
Perhaps the pipes are meant to fit the need of whatever is passing through it. You can't tell me neither Fred and George or The Marauders wouldn't have thought it extremely funny to engorge a bm to make filch clean it with out magic
It is, as far as I remeber, never said in the books, that Colin´s camera is a muggle-camera. But even if so, it is said, that muggle tech like electricity does not funktion at Hogwarts...but a camera like the one Colin uses is simple chemistry.
Is a person allowed to be under multiple unbreakable vows at the same time?
What happens if you first vow "I will do " and then you make another vow with another person "I will do "
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12:37 I feel like the flip side to this Is confusing because why do they teach first years the unlocking charm I’m pretty sure it’s called the thief’s friend for a reason
It's most likely that Hagrid probably had troubles with the motorcycle, and needed to get some food for Harry, then have to wait until dark to be able to travel.
About the broken wands: Dumbledor fixed Hagrid's wand with the elder wand, then hagrid hid it in his umbrella to hide that it was fixed. Ron's wand was just briken, and didnt want to work for him to begin with due to its components, making it completely inusable. Probably also why it backfires so often, it didnt want to perform for him (or really anyone who wasnt charlie), so why would it want to when it was in pieces? It probaly took it out on people in frustration.
About plot hole 10, Voldemort was scared to come to the ministry, he needed Harry to come because prophecies can be retrieved only by those about whom they are made. As for why he came even after the prophecy got destroyed, I don't know if there is any particular reason behind it or just another chance to kill Harry that lured him there.
thing about the wand plot hole it was cleared up in book 7 when harry inquires of olivander about several wands that had on them. Olivander explains that a wands "allegiance" can change if the wand was take in a duel
I always imagined that there are many levels to the unlocking charm to learn as some locks in the wizarding world could have been more complicated or have more complicated locking enchantments placed upon them as where in the muggle world they are just normal locks
My opinion on the unbreakable vow not being used by Voldemort, people tend to forget the vow works two ways. He would've had to make a vow to them as well to be loyal to them, and he was not about to be loyal to anybody but himself.
At 4:50...the point about viewers using the map being able to see Animagi in their animal forms if they knew the individual was an Animagi seems to be iffy. Because Harry seen Peter Petegrew on the map when Petegrew was running around the school halls as Scabbers despite Harry only really knowing that Petegrew knew his parents and that he was presumably killed by Sirius Black. But, IF that is the case, it would make sense as to why Fred and George never seen that Ron was always hanging out with someone named "Peter Petegrew" whenever Scabbers was with him.
With Unbreakable Vow I figure there must be something more involved than just the case of death if fail to uphold. Personal headcanon to make it make sense is that a portion of the participants' magical power is permanently "locked" (at least until such time as the vow is fulfilled to a point it no longer applies) - with the locked portion of their power being what maintains the vow. Thus, people would be reluctant to use the vow if not essential as it would actually weaken them. Voldemort especially would never give up any of his power when his own methods seemed sufficient to himself - and doubly especially would never do so multiple times (once per Deatheater/core member).
If I remember correctly, the Philosopher's stone was not immediately destroyed because that also means its creator Nicolas Flamel would then finally die, and only in the end after the events with Quirrel happened did Dumbledore and Flamel have a talk about destroying it.
How was hermione able to block her thoughts from Bellatrix at Malfoy manner with so strong with the dark side she is. I enjoyed these plot holes sir thank you for your work.
Adrenaline makes their magic peak I've noticed
Actually, Black told Harry how he purchased the Firebolt. He used Harry's name on the Owl Order but used the Black Family Vault number for the payment.
Only like 5 in and I'm pulling my hair out. Snape even says in the movies Dumbledore was 100 percent just raising Harry for the slaughter
In Deathly Hallows it's explained to Harry that Shell Cottage is protected by the Fidelius Charm with Bill as secret keeper.
It's implied that the Order of the Phoenix have been using the charm to keep themselves hidden for a while. (Possibly around the xmas hols when Ginny was pulled out of school, or at the start of term after Luna was kidnapped, or even before then.)
But at Malfoy Manor Ron was able to tell Dobby, Harry, Luna, Dean, and Olivander about the place.
15:17 actually in the books Hermione makes Harry check for sure that Sirius isn’t at Grimmauld place. They sneak into Umbridge’s office to use the fireplace (floo network). He only put his head in the fireplace, so his body stayed at Hogwarts. And when he gets to Grimmauld place, he’s met with Kreacher the house elf who LIES and tells Harry that Sirius left the house (something he wasn’t supposed to do because he was in hiding).
In the Chamber of Secrets section on Ron’s wand: I like to think that his wand didn’t work because it’s Charlie’s wand. It does still work but just not the same. “The wand chooses the wizard” after all. I will say that (at least in the movies) Ron successfully uses nonverbal magic against Malfoy with the slugs. Maybe if his wand wasn’t broken he would’ve been successful. I like that some wands can be temperamental like that
It maybe most likely that when Hagrid had come to collect Baby Harry and to the point in which Sirius had given his magic motorcycle may have taken place before Sirius had gone to hunt for Peter Pettigrew; the celebration of Voldemort's apparent first death was the calm before a new and brief storm and just after Hagrid collected Baby Harry and just as they were flying over Bristol was also around the time Dumbledore arrives to Privet Drive.
5:51 #6 personally I would enjoy the trip on the HE it’s beautiful country and it’s also a time where you’re able to enjoy snacks and good company while passing through beautiful country so it’s not necessarily a bad thing to me. That’s just a personal opinion and I do understand why you would question that but I do think I’d enjoy a longer trip on the HE before arriving at school. Skål 🍻
I'd say that since Barty Jr. in the guise of Moody was the one who had set up the Triwizard Cup inside the maze might've been the one who did the double enchantment on it, so that it would transport the "Pre-destined" winner to the Little Hangleton Graveyard, before the final destination back to the begging of the maze at Hogwarts.
What if the unbreakable vow requires both involved parties to possess complete souls to work properly?
Was thinking the same
The other thing would be, you have to be extraordinary specific when making the unbreakable vow so one slip up or slight vagueness and and you’ve either accidentally killed a useful follower or are trusting someone who found a loophole. I am also quite curious what happens if the person enters into or breaks an unbreakable vow while not under their own free will (i.e. Imperius curse)
Also, could you use the unbreakable vow to make sure someone told you the truth? You could make them enter an unbreakable vow to tell you the entire truth about some person or event? And who gets to determine what constitutes “to the best of your abilities?”. I’m not sure of that was just what they said in the movies and the specific vow Snape said in the books was different but if not, what party gets to decide what the best of one’s abilities are? Does the vow just “know”?
I ive heard that the marauders map felt that fred and george weasley really were up to no good so the map gave them hints to help them discover the password
I hate the concept and logic of portkeys. The idea that there are these windows and time sheets where they work simply just overcomplicates the living hell out of it. The way I see it and will continue to see it is the someone places a sort of waypoint beacon down in one spot, travels to another spot and places another waypoint beacon down, and then uses an object to magically link the two. In the case of the maze, I think that it had that same spell on it originally, but had another temporary portkey spell placed overtop of it by crouch jr, so that when they initially got transported to the graveyard, that temporary spell broke leaving the original portkey spell left, which is what then allows harry to go back to the start of the maze. To me this makes so much more sense and doesn't overcomplicate anything.
intrestingly there are two explinations about why serious didnt escape which are both passingly mentioned in the book both being said by serious one being "I as good as killed them" this is guilt serous likely kept himself there as he did blame himself at least party for lilly and james deaths. the second is mentioned on why he escaped when he saw peter he had began to gain his powers back more strongly thanks to the fire of passion that knowing he could prove his innocence created. it was likely that even if serious got out of his cell he wouldnt be able to get out of the prison grounds without his magic which serves as a very powerful reason also for dementors being more affective gaurds in the eyes of wizards as they provent powerful magic being used like for example a patronous or aperation.
is it possible that the unbreakable vow is actually a type of dark magic which could explain dumbledoor not using the spell. and yeah voldimort is explained by his arragance that being his thought he was the most powerful legilimence that nobody could trick him (which voldimort regulaly claims during the books)
the elder wand i was always under the impression that it could in a way sense how powerful the magic its weilder holds in the moment therefore a person could gain the wand simply because the magic user was more powerful at the time (example from the books being dumbledoor was dying and poisioned therefore had drastically reduced magical potential that malfoy at the time when he disarmed him so the wand gave itself over) another example not from the books which I thought of would be using dementors a user could sick a dementor to go in and weaken a wizard and then take the wand from their hands which would alow them to become its master (this explination also explains the killing misconseption as the user died they would loose all magic potential so the wand gave itself to the killer. and considering in the books at least the only way the wand was taken in death was muggle kills ie the user being stabbed meant the wand still held its potential to that user at the time)
the international threat thing is one of just being a hole because of the films. (crimes of grindlewald namely) because in the books its strongly stated that the wizarding commuinity is very disconnected outside of single countries because of the logistic issues of trvael between countries and continents namely why portkeys are so important as they are enchanted with a activation condition (timetable contact etc) which is also a explination for the issues of the rules or portkeys in general too as it was a earlier plothole mentioned.
the plot hole about harry on the doorstep ignores the priciple of knock and run there magical beings would estensivly apperate in and then out after knocking on the door so the dursleys would then answer to discover harry, although yes them abonding him is in itself an issue as the character claim to care about the child.
molly not knowing the platform is only a oversight ignoring that a lot of the actions dumbledoor does is to train harry to be able to beat voldermort this being known as dumbledoors big plan (yes that part is a theory but does in a whole explain a lot of oddities to the story) and the idea of dumbledoor who was already close with the weasleys asked mrs weasley to make sure harry meets them so that they could help him acclumate to the wizarding world easier. and being that she couldnt just walk around looking for harry potter she fakes not knowing what the platform is so harry can instead find them. (also note ginny is the only one to seemingly react to this and answer at least answering first which could be a case that the kids just assumed she was doing this for ginny to see that she is paying attention.)
the traps i have passively explained by the idea of dumbledoors plan would explain this. (and we know that dumbledoor enchanted the mirror with a spell which meant that he knew that voldermort could never get it out of the mirror which would be the perfect situation for the stone to be safe and therefore he just added those traps as he knew the kids would try and get through so looked too the teartchers to create some intresting traps in order too test a student who went in to see if they deserve to get too the mirror)
lockhart was seen through most of the hogwarts staff seemed to have a disdain for him and his lack of ability in there noted subjects. and as too why his reputation before this point wasnt damaged is likely because lockhart isnt stupid he would likely only be in public for interviews or times he was expecting to be around others and therefore wouldnt cast magic to conceal the fact he was rather inept. however once on school grounds he felt he had to constantly demonstrate his skill because of the fact people would ask questions if he didnt and ironically tarnish his reputation.
wands when they broke didnt work correctly which is the case for all wands the one exception for this we have seen was hagrid. which has a theory explonation that being his wand was partially repaired or even fully repaired by dumbledoor as we know at the time he had the elderwand and that it could correctly fix wands.
and as i forgot to mention this prior it appears not too uncommon for wizards to hand down wands to their children as we also know this is at the least part of the explination as to why nevile struggled with magic so much as this dramatically changed after the order of the phoinix where he seemed to have a large uptick in skill after his wand got broken in the minestry of magic
the size of the basalisk isnt a plothole its simply a situation of missing somthing modern comercial plumbing is small however ancient plumbing methods created large stone caverns which would take sewage and water through (see the water systems in italy as an example as there it is still somewhat used.)
why was the chamber of secrets not cleaned? simple it closed after harry entered it and as paceltounge is a very rare skill they still couldnt enter the chamber to empty it and harry being someone that didnt care about or know the value of whats in that chamber wouldnt go back in. (also dumbledoor likely wouldnt allow anyone to enter the chamber as there was a possibility that could cause issues for the school which he seemed to protect with the most care)
the simple example here is goblins are not held by the minerstry of magic and you can mail in to pay for the broom as it was noted in a paper.
I think Colin's camera might work as it would likely have been analogue rather than digital. I got the impression that Hermione was referring to electronic devices not working.
I always thought Mrs Weasley was testing both Jenny and Ron as to what the platform number was. As well as maybe helping any other people that were having problems locating the platform.
It also insinuates that it wasnt always platform 9 and 3 quarters, since kings cross station was opened in 1852, and was only the modernized grand station with platforms after Molly graduated .
Thoughts on a few of the first 10 or so.
Petunia and magic: in Snape's memories he an Lily both use magic in the open and Petunia at one point does have a rant about Lily and Hogwarts. I'm sure she did not know or perhaps did not know the severity at least. The better question is how did Lily get away with it?
Charlie's wand: perhaps this wand is a family training wand that belonged to someone even before Charlie. They had numerous children and limited funds perhaps they struggled around the time Charlie went to school and he was given a wand of a deceased family member and when he graduated he got his own wand...
I agree with the Pensive argument regarding Fudge and skill level. I also believe Dumbledore either had an oversight with Mertyl - he is human - or it was intentional and part of his grooming of Harry. Consider the Kings Cross station conversation and Dumbledore's past with Grindewald. He's not the best guy.
Sirus was talented and knew secret passages plus had a relationship with Crookshanks. He could have snuck in through passages used his animagus form, had crookshanks steal potion ingredients or wand to use for consealment
As for how Petunia, Vernom and Dudly got out of the island i thought they were rescued by a passing boat, or the owner of the boat Vernom rented came to see them, how are they, after the storm that night
#9 Is SO obvious. The whole entire point of HBP, is Harry's (and the reader's) misunderstanding of Snape's character.
Even more than Ron and Hermoine, Snape is one of the people in the entire world with whom Harry has the most in common. Snape had to use a school-issue textbook, because he was raised by muggles.
It wasn't Snape's actual book. It always belonged to the school. He just had to use it, and defaced it.
Why tf would they make someone who cant do magic be the janitor? Any time he complains about cleaning up after students i think how anyone in that castle could clean that mess in 2 seconds. As a matter of fact im pretty sure there are enchanted cleaning tools in these books which just do the cleaning themselves.
The entire reason they keep magic a secret from the normal world is nonsense. Who cares if humans would rely on wizards. THEY LITERALLY HAVE ACCESS TO MAGIC.
It could also be that Murtle wouldn't show herself to adults or anyone that was alive then. I also think it took someone with snake speak to open the way.
Why can't eyesight problems be cured? bones, snakebites, and petrification can be cured! I have asked this before, but no one has answered this.
They can't cure things like cancer either. I believe your base medical conditions stay, a broken arm wouldn't count as your base medical conditions. Or if muggle medicine can heal it they can heal it type vibe. Because they live longer but can't fix any medical issues we can't
@@emjayee I've had 2 cataracts fixed and I did not need my spectacles afterward, so some eyesight issues can be fixed.
@@davehogg63 Some for sure. At the time this was written the options were extremely limited, and even now temperamental
One smaller thing I noticed a few days ago when listening to the Audiobook of Prisoner of Askaban:
Its a little bit weird that Cornelius Fudge is only furious about the fact that Buckbeak escaped after Sirius escaped as well. In the moment Harry wakes up in the hospital Buckbeak already escaped. Shouldn't be Fudge more furious then ? Instead he seemed calm.
Because they had just captured their only ever escaped convict, who cares about a hippogriff then? It is afterwards where it just adds to the embarrassment
@@vignotum132 My guess it has more to do with JK Rowling not wanting to give anything away 🙈
But I have to admit it would have been funny if Fudge is Like: Glad we captured Sirius. It makes our blunder with Buckbeack look less Bad.
And Harry Like: What ? Buckbeack escaped ? But how ?
And when Harry and Hermione travel Back in time He is the one who understands that they have to Release Buckbeack because it has always been that way.
@@Prodrummer1603 yeah that too lol
Haggis’s wand was repaired by Dumbledore with the elder wand. It’s the same way Harry repairs his phoenix feather wand with the elder wand, but Albus was trying to hide it so that Hagrid could skirt by with it and also so it wouldn’t be obvious that he was extremely overpowered and had the elder wand
The plot hole of Hagrid raising werewolf cubs has been explained. It’s likely that he raised the cubs of two werewolves that mated under the full moon so those cubs would be little more than more intelligent wolves.
It was Voldemort whonsaid that. He was most likely exaggerating, or even lying, even though is a stupid lie...
@@RoPiDe True. There are actually werewolves cubs in the forbidden forest though (the same kinds that I mentioned, cubs that were conceived when their werewolf parents were in their werewolf forms so the cubs are just more docile and intelligent wolves). How did those cubs get in the forbidden forest? Sure we can assume Voldemort just made it up but I wouldn’t put it past Hagrid to actually try and raise werewolf cubs and based on this description they probably wouldn’t even be that difficult to raise.
so sure I commented on this before...
a) Snapes book - I think he merely forgot it in his classroom, maybe even in his desk. Slugorn would have out it with the other books AND if you are a book reader you are aware that Snape actually tries to get the book back after what happens to Malfoy. So he clearly did not leave it on purpose. But I think his mind might have been a bit preoccupied with the tasks in that year.
b) the trace is totally unfair - since it seems not to be locked onto a child. So people with magical parents can performe magic out of school - and muggle borns can not.
That is one of the things that bothers me most!
c) do not even get me into McGonagall - reading the books I always imagied her being in her lat 40s - and the thing with fantastic beasts.... Yeah do not get me started in this one.
d) Do not even get me started on everything Sirius - no do not...
e) Things like "time turners" or "Veritaserum" are also consistend holes - i think they were just not invented so hard to implement them in books before the author invented those.
f) the fi,ms often maes no sense - During the books Cho (and Olliver) arrived later on
g) Fidelius... how could Hagrid have found Harry in a Fidelius kept house?
He was not the secret keeper.
Secret keepers also are not sensible...
Ever wondered, how the Longbottoms could be found, when apparently Dumbledore was their Secret keeper?
Also... why not be your own secret keeper?
Bill was - and that seems the safest option...
h) about creating riches - I had this incredible guide at the studio tour who provided some BGlore. as for wizarding (or Giblin) money - there is a little bit of goblin magic in every peice of money/wealth/goblin made things. IF you dublicate, you can not dublicate the goblin magic. Giblins will realize the lack of the magic - which is how Griphook was able to know the sword of Gryffindor was a fake one. So you simply can not dublicate anything goblin made.
That explains why some wizarding families are poos (and due to their honor - I guess you could still dublicate our money)
6:50 actually this is resolved in a short story on pottermore that tells of two werewolves giving birth to a pack of wolves with human intelligence that were often mistaken for werewolves
Ron's first wand has seen use since Charlie's first year at Hogwarts, and more likely that wand was probably a nine year old wand when Charlie gave it to him, and the wand was kind of old, and therefore it could've been a lot older than 10 years and I could take a guess that one of his departed uncles might have left Charlie his wand before the first wizard war against Voldemort.
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They would have had to put Fudge under the imperius curse in order to get him to look at Harry's memory. He didn't WANT to believe Voldemort was back. Very hard to convince someone when they refuse to listen
Very hard to deny an undeniable fact when you see it right in front of you. Practically, that is what happened at the end of the book. However I think Fudge was so delusional that he would have looked at the memory thinking it wasnt going to be anything.
Should have been useful knowing if some of the plotholes came from the movies or the books as some don't apply to both.
Example: in the books Harry realizes immediatrly that he didn't need glasses after drinking polyjuice or couldn't open Hedwig's cage because the Dursleys had the key and the Weasleis had to lockpick it.
the stone wasn't destroyed because his friend nicholas flamel would die i think. in the end dumbledore tells harry "don't worry, he has enough potion to get his things done" or something
7:17 Charlie works with dragons and dragon heartstrings is a known wand core. I believe he made himself a new wand and gave his old one back to the family. As for wands working poorly with owners other than the first, think about it. Ron kinda sucks at magic until the third book
Charlie's wand: In the very first book, Ron's wand is described as being badly worn. It is entirely possible that Charlie's wand was second-hand to begin with. As soon as Charlie had the means to buy his own wand, he did and passed the now third-hand wand down to Ron when he received his Hogwarts letter.
Why didn't Voldemort use the Unbreakable Vow?: That should be obvious. This binds both parties to the vow on penalty of death. Voldemort would never even consider doing something that would put his own life in peril. He would consider himself above ever keeping his word to his followers. The fates of Regulus Black and Barty Crouch JR. clearly show us how much he values the lives of his most faithful followers.
Hagrid famously used a broken wand: Really? Did you ever see it in the movies? Was it ever described as being broken in any of the books? No. A broken wand does not work. Neither Ron's broken wand in "The Chamber of Secrets" nor Harry's wand in "The Deathly hallows" are able to cast even the most basic spells. If Hagrid's wand was ever broken in the first place, either Dumbledore repaired it using the Elder wand or Hagrid got a replacement. In either case, it was subsequently concealed within the pink umbrella and we never see the actual wand.
As for things you saw in the films and the play: non-cannon. The only flying wizards in the books were Voldemort and Snape. Harry used a flashlight, not his wand, to do his homework. Tha'That's just two examples. As for the play? I've seen better fan-fics than that POS.
Most of these 'plot holes' are easily explained but my favourite is the one about colins camera. It is not all tech that wont work at hogwarts but more specifically the electronics that go haywire due to all the magic around...colins camera is an older analog camera....no electronics to go haywire so it would easily work.
Number 2 is easily explained, Snape lived next to them, and Lily could do magic because of that.
#3. Dumbledore knew about the chamber he couldn't get in, he doesn't speak parsol tongue.
#6. Of course, they have flew powder.
#8. Charlie got gifted a new wand by his employer it was said that Charlie's wand wasnt that good for him either.
#9. He might have just left it in there to help the one kid that was smart enough to grab a worn book instead of a new one.
Scabers, i will say that the muraders map only reveals people that know that have that form.
Locks, magic has levels, different levels of skill with that spell or different spells in that skill tree.
The twins getting the map, they were related to the owners of it so they probably got told about it.
Why he didn't "call" Serious, he had been proven his visions right by him being right about Ron's dad being attacked.
McGonagall, she also looks older the a witch at her age if she never went back in time, she was technically as old or older then Dumbledore.
Dementors, Harry was not experiencing his torment he had Voldemrot in him and that piece of him was what was being attacked.
Truth serum, it would be too invasive, you could ask anything once they took it and people would abuse it.
Wizard money and Wizard economy, some things aren't so simple to make and if something has to be made by hand then it would be more expensive.
Secret Keeper's, a Secret Keeper cant be the paty that is hiding, that would negate the magic of a person using ones magic to hide another.
Portraits, Magic paintings are like any other magic, it all depends on who does the spell and how much magic they put into it, it is also said multiple times that the Headmaster paintings were made in a particular way to keep memories from them in the paintings, my thoughts on this part would be that a Wizard is able to take their memories before death and adding them to the paint they use.
Wizard wealth, it is made clear you cant make something out of nothing, it would also help to remember that magic isn't universal, just because you can do magic doesn't mean you can do all magic.
Magic language classes, you could just contribute this to a worldwide spell of universal language.
The stone being destroyed, it wasn't destroyed, it was used several times and never said that it was, the fact everyone was healed from the petrafacation from the Baselisk.
Harrys lock on Hedwigs cage, it is obvious that he put a lock spell on it so his crule family couldn't harm his owl.
Basilisk venom and Harry's horcux not dieing, it only makes sense that its because he didn't die and the tear from the phenox healed both.
The broken wand problem with ron and Hagrid, i would like to point out that Dumbledore had the Elder wand and he would have repaired it for him without being asked, he couldn't do that for Ron or that would have told the world he had the Elder wand for that isnt normally able to be done by normal means.
Not hearing the hissing in the walls, it is easily explained by his mental connection with any snake, he was hearing it in his head not in the air with his ears.
Time Turner's, McGonagall sean herself in Hermione and gave her the time turner, she also gave her the same one she used way back when to help Dumbledore.