The Village that lies in two Countries
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- čas přidán 25. 04. 2024
- There is an unusual village on the German-Dutch border. Or rather: two villages? In fact, you can't really tell - because the state border runs directly along the village street. On one side the houses are Dutch, on the other German. And if you don't pay close attention, you won't even notice which country you are in. Time to take a closer look at this curiosity.
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Intro song:
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Music:
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I am Dutch, but didn't know this about Dinxperlo :) Thanks for showing us
The way you began with the quirks, and went through the history drew me in, and it was such a pleasure to listen to the two old friends, Dutch and German, from the historical society. As a Brit who never wanted to leave Europe, hearing their thoughts, and those of the Austrian lady and her Dutchman, on Brexit was fascinating. An excellent video, thank you!
Very interesting! The discussions with the elder folk were particularly illuminating. Also, great choice of music.
The world is a funny place. My elders came with the British Empire to Africa. They decided to stay. Then South Africa became a country with Afrikaans/Dutch given priority to English. We were the first ones to learn Afrikaans although we never used it as Durban was English.
When I went to University I thought they were doing away with Afrikaans. A friend of mine spent a gap year in the Netherlands & told me it was difficult. Some of our comedians & older Afrikaans movies spoke with a Dutch accent so I picked up the shift.
I moved to Johannesburg for work because it is the financial heart of Africa & one of the most Cosmopolitan cities in the Southern Hemisphere. In my time there I got to really learn about South Africa because Johannesburg for example was a city of immigrants. Gold was found on a stock farm 55km from the nearest town or settlement ie Pretoria. I later learned that the town/city of Potchefstroom was the original capital of De/Het Zuid-Afrikaansche Republiek. When I decided to leave Johannesburg my first choice was Flanders or the Netherlands. I decided not to because of my complexion as some don't know better would think I am a terrorist 😂.
I opted for New Zealand where I met Dutch, German & Flemish friends. They were quite surprised by my language skills. I have to explain to them & my Kiwi friends that in my country of birth, more especially in the Afrikaans parts I am regarded as being English. That always gets a good laugh.
I just think its wonderful that we can put past bigotry etc behind us & enjoy our lives together. Its interesting to see how others envisage or see the world. Time flies, so make the best of it.
Thanks for the video. I hope to visit the EU in the next few summers as I am not built for sub-zero temperatures. 😂 Greetings from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Greetings! I've heard some people say the Kiwi accent is actually more similar to the South African English accent than Australian; would you agree?
@@andyjay729 Absolutely, another secret. Natalians have a strong bond with England & a similar sentiment of the Crown. The other, English South Africans are not so. Ironically, Natal/KZN Indians will jump off a cliff if their team lost in the English Prenier League. Crazy stuff.
Auckland is very much like Durban where I grew up.
Excellent video, thank you! And yes, many of us in GB were and remain horrified, and look forward to returning to the European family
You have such a pleasant accent to listen to - and I love the nerdy subjects you cover. I can actually hear the Dutch accent when one of the men is speaking German. G'day from Australia, mate ☺
Border villages in Europe have gotten more and more united, while border villages in North America have gotten more and more divided.
That's very true
Both "attitudes" are born in politics and how the towns people respond to politics.
European countries, and I want to say the Netherlands, Germany and Belgium especially, have been calling for years to "unite", work together, live together, play together. (North) American politics has (especially the Trump years) been about closing the borders, "protecting them" against the neighbors. This inevitably reflects in how the people affected will look at those neighbors. Would the USA work WITH instead of against their neighbors, they would have US/Mexican towns and US/Canadian towns like Dinxperwick or Baarle Nassau/Hertog
@@mavadelo Oh please! I swear Europeans just love to sit here and act like this arrangement is due to them just being so "enlightened" and not due to outsiders having to come in and make you people stop shooting each other.
beautifull generalization
Lol, very interesting that the historical society guy from the Dutch side has a Dutch accent when speaking German, alltough historically these villages spoke the same Westphalian dialect of Low German.
There is another place where a German and a Dutch city are one.
these are Kerkrade (NL) and Hertzogenrath (D).
There you have the Nieuwstraat/Neustraße, also on one side the Netherlands and on the other side Germany
I became "world champion" in Kerkrade twice. (Wereld Muziek Concours). He should definitely visit there, also a great area.
There is probably many of those between NE and Germany or Belgium..
As a tourist, I ve been to the three borders point in the Vaals-Gemmenich-Valserquartier area, just a stone throw away from Aachen
Yeah, I was about to say... Kerkrade & Herzogenrath. I lived there for 38 years. I remember when the borders were still closed and my dad took me to Aldi for groceries and we had to bring passports and stuff. Times have changed for the better since the borders are open there.
The border there also has a tiny memorial to pay respects to 2 German customs officers that were shot there in 1978 courtesy of the Rote Armee Fraktion (November 1st, 1978)
The craziest thing that used to happen at the Neustrasse/Nieuwstraat were Dutch and German hooligans facing eachother when there was soccergame between both nations.
From what I understood, they even have a officebuilding built right on the center with many small firms having an office there. Border runs right through it; which helps both dutch and German mailing, because dutch firms can mail their orders from a German mailservice in the same building.
I lived by this location🇨🇦
Awesome, thanks for the English upload! I wanted to show this to my Dutch friend but since she can't understand German well I couldn't, now I can :)
I find this sort of thing so fascinating. I come from a country that has no land borders so European borders and the history of them is so interesting to me. I can't imagine growing up in a place that has another country across the road. The cooperation between diverse countries, sharing a continent should be an inspiration to other continents.
One thing I think documentaries like these always seem to leave out is the everyday practicalities, that isn't about the physical borders, but rather the technical ones. From where do you get your electricity? Your water? Is it purely tied to your address or can you be living in Germany while paying a Dutch company for your power?
Your phone? How did the old landlines work? How do you deal with having your neighbour being an international phone call away? Mobile phones pre 2017? Where everyone running around with dual sim cards? And even though your data is now included all over the EU, a call to your friends might still be an international one, if you have contracts in different countries.
And then we have internet. Guess it's the same thing as with the old landline phones, but here it comes down to IP address. Are you a german stuck with dutch Netflix? (and here it's time to talk about todays sponsor .....)
Old cellphones were a problem in border areas. You actively had to check if you weren't on a german cell network and pay higher fees, if you had a dutch cell provider. Now with roaming and all that, it works fine, but back then, you had to pay a bit more attention.
What a delight to watch… Thank you so much for making these great videos. BR, Per (Denmark)
Super recherchiert 👍 tolle Interviewpartner 👌
Thank you Matthias for doing this in English, very much appreciated...
As someone living and growing in Dinxperlo, thank you for making this video. In essence, for many people in Dinxperlo or Suderwick it is not "something" to think about when we go to the other side of the border. "Oh, just have an ice cream at Da Claudio or go to the Penny" is not strange at all, in fact, one of the most casual (the extent to which you can call shopping casual) things to do. Especially for someone who grew up here in the 2000s and who had never seen a real border crossing with passport/ID checks and such.
Thanks for the support 🙂
I always love your videos but I especially like your Baarle Hertog/Nassau and Dinxperwick episodes. They show that borders don't have to be an issue if you talk and cooperate. Something certain countries on the other side of the globe can learn something from.
Fantastic video as always, whenever I see you posted a new video it's always a treat!
See also Kerkrade and several other villages along the German-Dutch borders. Same with Belgium.
Similar to Baarle Hertog and Baarle Nassau on the Belgian ‐ Netherlands bborder. The wife sleeps on one side of the bed in the Netherlands, and hubby sleeps in Belgium.
Great video thanks for sharing
i am born 200m away from Denmark...in the late 60s
we locals didnt care for the border, we always went over it without any ID checks....
while the tourists standing in the jam at the border post, we went thru without to bother the border guards!
it also helped, to have speaking Danish in the Kindergarten on the German side! in the early 1970s!
How come? Was it a Danish speaking area on the German side?
Fascinating. Thankyou!
Great content! Always surprises the topic with something new and interesting. 🔥
Fantastic research! Thank you!!
Living on this Dutch German border I can see the subtle differences even if there is no actual border left.
Cross border cooperation can lead to some weird stuff. I have seen German ambulances coming to the rescue on the Dutch side of the border and Dutch firetrucks dousing fires on the German side.
As an added bonus both side of the border still speak the same dialect.
There are several such villages in Europe, villages that were split by history and nationalistic rivalries, and united again in the European Union that abolished the hard borders.
Wow, das war ja wieder super aufwendig. Danke.
I was thinking this was going to be about Baarle in the Netherlands and Belgium
Super leuke film! Dit is wat Europa leuk maakt!
we have a few towns here in North America where part is in Canada and part is in the US. Broadly speaking, there isn't a problem despite very different political and societal views on either side of the town. One amusing example is a town where some houses sit on American soil, and their driveways are on Canadian soil. Generally speaking, good will conquers all.
But those towns have REALLY strict border controls, despite appearances.
Fascinating!
You may investigate Baarle Nassau in the south of the Netherlands. There you have pieces of Begium in theNetherlands and again dutch patches in a Belgian patch..... Interesting stuff.
Visit Kerkrade and Herzogenrath
Just as well , right hand traffic both countries 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️👍👍👍
Very interesting topic. Thanks from Costa Rica.
there's also the small town Burghausen which lies in both Germany and Austria :) You can cross a bridge and you're in the other country. I was there 2 weeks ago.
Very nice video. I visited Dinxperlo several times, and liked it a lot. One thing is remarkable: all people in the video speak German (or English), not a word in Dutch. And that's something I notice every time I visit the border region between the Netherlands and Germany. In the Netherlands border region everybody speaks Dutch and German, on the German side of the border it's German only.
I grew up close to the border and at the time (60s/70s) there were 2 Dutch tv channels and 3 German ones and German tv was on more as well, crucially on Sunday afternoons. So I learned German before I ever got it in high school, we all did. Present generations are not usually as good at German.
While there may be a larger chunk of Germans who do not speak Dutch there are still plenty Germans that do. I live near the Dutch German border as well and I practiced sports there for many years, many of the people there who attended Gymnasium have or had Dutch in their curriculum.
Aalten is a boring place but you can also briefly mention that Angus Young from AC/DC has lived there with his Dutch wife for 40 years.
I'm surprised that I didn't know about this town, given that I live really close to it on the Dutch side.
It's really cool to hear the stories from the residents about their experiences with hard borders cutting up their town in the past, and how they feel about political rhetoric that wants to bring back those divisions.
reminds me a bit of the towns of Bellaghy/Charlestown on the Sligo/Mayo border ... but I suspect the Dutch/Germans are friendlier ;)
If some of those politicians in both Germany and the Netherlands did not learn the lesson from brexit (severe economic consequences for U.K. that just get worse every year) than I am sorry for them.
Great work. Why only 12K subscribers?!??
I lived in Kranenburg (Germany) for a year. It was right on the Dutch border. Some houses had garden in the Netherlands.
👋🏼 Small struggling Travel Channel here. I love your content, thanks for this great video! You inspire me to keep grinding my channel, maby one day I’ll grow as big as you 🥲
There is a nice dialect song from Hans Keuper, "dinxper". It is about the people of Dinxperlo and Suderwick.
Please go to South of The Netherlands where, Nederland, België and Deutschland conjunct as well in one village
Nice.
But not overly exceptional in Europe.
I lived for a while at the German/Swiss border, villages (same name) on both sides of Rhine river that is the border.
Basel area with the often not visible border to Germany and to France. Even well before Schengen agreement.
Germany has quite strict laws on shops opening on Sunday maybe for religious reasons although the rules seem to apply equally to Protestant and Catholic parts of the country.I think that some little shops can open especially in rail stations so you can still buy food and whatnot.
Surprising considering the USA's very strong territorial sense, there are a few places like this on the US-Canadian border between the US state of Vermont and the Canadian province of Quebec, or rather, there were until 9/11. Since then things have been tightened up quite a bit. But at least at one time, one town had a library that was basically shared between the two countries, albeit with separate exits for each country.
the benelux and schengen country borders are surprisingly easy going here in europe :D
the border customs stations are quite often unmanned/just run a drive-through policy, and let you drive striaght though over the highways too
but they do random samplings from time to time, and play a bit harder around certain times they know shit is going down
like a lot fo the fireworks that are illegal here in the nehterlands, are perfectly legal in belgium,
here in the netherlands we have a strict policy where it's only legal to sell fireworks 2 or 3 years in the year, the last ones of the year.... in germany and belgium they sell them all year round
so people smuggle them over the border, but customs knows that too, so around those december times they'll do a bit more checking for dutch people coming back from belgium to the netherlands, more so than germany, because the fireworks in belgium is allowed to be more potent so to speak, so that's where the real freaks went,
the internet made it a bit less prominent though
in NL you can get yourself an air rifle that could bring down a fucking deer though, which would be illegal in germany and belgium, they have a 7.5 or 15 joules limit to air rifles,
sometimes 24.
somehow it's perfectly legal here to get gas charged air guns that go over 500 joules and run 9mm or even 50 cal air gun "pellets"
but most people in europe aren't silly enough to try to take their rifles over the border, you don't even let most people know you have them, you know you're asking for shit lol
Library would have books banned on one side that you can read on the other
Super Clip 😂
Baarle is just a bit stranger village on the map.
I m fron Sint Jacobslaan Nijmegen 4 kms from Germany
Go to baarle-nassau, thats even more crazy 😂😂
Leuk
Why do I watch this when I already watched the German version a few days ago?
Check upp Cieszyn, one side is in Poland second one in Czech😎
I've watched the German version of the video despite not understanding much German xD
Europapa avant la lettre
How about Barlem/Barlaam Belhium/the Netherlands.
If it’s all one village, what language do they all speak to communicate with each other?
As mentioned in the video the older generation still communicates in Plattdeutsch, I wouldn't be surprised most Dutch speak German anyways, in the Dutch school system schools have to offer either German or French (as an elective, English is mandatory) most people will opt for German -- at least they did when I went to school in 1884 ;) -- since it is easier to pick up as both are West-Germanic in origin.
Kerkerade
Toont maar weer aan hoe absurd het begrip grens eigenlijk is.
Which languages do the local people speak. Do they speak speak both Dutch and German, or do they speak some mix of the two?
They most likely used to speak the same language. A low west germanic dialect which was considered a dialect of Dutch on one side, and a dialect of (Low) German on the other side.
Nowadays, most residents on the german side probably speak High German.
Interestingly, the dialects in both sides are quite similar, if not the same. And most people in the Netherlands who live close to the German border, speak German at least a little.
@@_JoyceArt maybe it's me but in the interviews they all seemed to be speaking german.
@@richardtalbot8769 they are speaking German in the video, but the question was about local people, and what they speak.
It makes me wonder if the speak closely related dialects of Low German and Dutch or even if they speak the same dialect.
From what I gathered from the video is that the older generation shares Platt.
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It's not about identity.
The issue is that you can never have a fair democracy that both ensures that you have representation of all the various ways to live in Europe and sll the issued faced by the inhabitants and one that's fair towards the more urban areas all while also having a functional democracy...
I'm personally in favour of a confederate approach to running Europe, instead of a federal or unified approach.
Cooperation is essentially, but people need to have the final say about their own lives.
Not politicans who has never been in the location in question.
Lol, there r many! Live in landgraaf…. Its split in germany too
Verdammt, ich habe ein falsches Video gesehen! Ich habe nicht gewisst, dass ein Video auf English ist auch verfügbar (ich bin nicht aus Deutschland). 😀
The german version came out first, the english second..
Do they communicate with each other in German or Dutch? Or a third language such as English?
Why is the dutch guy saying und instead of en
There are actually many of such villages on the Dutch-German and Dutch-Belgian borders. And then, there's the insanity that is Baarle.
I had to chuckle about the item on smuggling. Yes, that happened a lot, everywhere.
Regarding German infrastructure, I don't get it. It's not the reunification: former communist countries have better (digital) infrastructure than Germany. There's something really, really wrong there. The Dutch finished a high-capacity freight-only railway in 2007. But its capacity is limited, because the Germans need to build a third track. They should be starting this year: 17 years later! And even the Autobahn: for as long as I can remember - and this goed back to the 1970s - there's always a Baustelle or other. You cannot drive any reasonable distance in Germany without running into some sort of maintenance.
One thing, though: the country is called the Netherlands! I'm from the Netherlands, not from 'Holland'. Holland is a strange land with rude, loud people.
Without going into a political debate in CZcams comments: when the borders were still there, it was a major pain in the arse. Between the Netherlands and Belgium was OK, but to Germany... oh boy. Long delays, they check your papers, open the boot please, what's inside the suitcase... never-ending.
And let's not even talk about cross-border purchases. Although I'm Dutch, I live in Malta these days. If I want to order something online, I don't even bother trying to order something from the Netherlands, because they almost never ship abroad. Compare that to Germany, where they happily ship all over Europe. For some reason, the Dutch online retailers seem unaware that there's a market of hundreds of millions of potential customers.
Since I moved to Malta in 2000/2001, it wasn't an EU member state yet. So everything that I bought abroad - even though it was a pain, 20 years ago - got import duties and VAT. It's a hassle for retailers as well. Therefore, I was _very_ happy when Malta joined in 2004. It has also had a massive impact on the economy. These days, it's not really that different from Western Europe in many aspects. Except that it has better internet and mobile telephony than Germany, and better weather. 🙂
Germany has all those issues with electronic infrastructure and sluggish construction, but it's the Netherlands that has issues with shipping abroad? Interesting how each country seems to have its Achilles heels.
Not everybody makes a big deal about the word "Holland", i live in Australia, and if i mention that i need to send a package to the Netherlands I get blank looks, so I say Holland instead, and they know straight away😂
"Holland is a strange land with rude, loud people."
Which in turn is a rude, stigmatising generalisation.
I luv your video's Matthias. You seem to missed the part how the Dutch hunted the German Jews trying to cross the boarder before May 1940. Even killing them or imprisoning them - returning them to Germany to certain death. The same thing happened in Kerkrade, a place which has a very similar boarder.
What a Great example of integration ... I say this coming from "Little England"
Similar to Danish- German border.
Meanwhile India is building electrified border fences
We definitely need to work towards free movement of people in Europe.
And some countries with a high population density benefits more then others from a EU membership.
But even with countries that probably shouldn't be members we should have cooperation.
I don't understand, this video was already uploaded 1 or 2 weeks ago?
Why is it now re-uploaded and the old video is gone?
Including all the old comments and likes. Was there a mistake in the old video?
I can't imagine this is beneficial for your channel views and likes.
You saw the German version of the video, this is the English one 🤝
@@MatthiasSchwarzerEnglishThanks!
I feel so stupid. I also didn't realize you have both a separate english channel and a german one. 👍
Apparently I watch both without knowing...🤣😂
Greetings from the Netherlands 😉
@@MatthiasSchwarzerEnglish ah you even have a seperate username for correspondence
that does sound like a mistake waiting to happen when you forget to switch accounts? :)
did see the video with the german title 2 days ago, but my german isn't too great
i'm dutch, so sentence structure or the forms of the verbs when i know them isn't really the problem, in that regard dutch is basically german (except the more explicit neuter gender cases we don't really have, but they aren't a problem in communication), it's mostly in not knowing many of the verbs to begin with
if i'd seen the german one before the english one again, i may have actually just watched it because i was considering it ;)
@mrpetit2 haha, he got me too, but I'm glad he oploaded in English...
Germany got it right with closing on Sunday.
Yeah, that’s why Germans are flocking to the Netherlands on their free sundays
Why does the Dutch guy sound German and the German guy sounds Dutch?
Huh?
How typical the Dutchie is talking German. The other way around is very rare or nearly non existent.
Everything the Austrian lady said about Brexit was factually wrong. Prior to Brexit, pro-remain institutions including the Bank of England, the Treasury, various economic think tanks and leading financial services companies predicted a deep recession, explosive increase in food inflation, a leap in unemployment and a catastrophic impact on public services (especially the NHS) should the UK leave the EU. None of those things came to pass or, where there was economic turmoil, it was almost entirely due to the pandemic and other global forces (e.g. the Russo-Ukrainian War) according to academic economists. One wonders whether the lady in the video is purposely trying to rewrite history or genuinely believes what she is saying.
That is EU propaganda for you. The biggest lie of course being that Brexit was about xenophobia but if that were true it would have made a lot more sense to dismantle the Commonwealth first. The main problem with the EU is that they deliberately created low income regions and somehow didn't anticipate that this would inflict massive migration streams of uneducated workers. Another thing they apparently failed to foresee was that national politics would extend social security in response to rising unemployment which actually made things worse.
On to The Netherlands where the exact same phenomena are occurring today. While the government boasts a high national worker participation rate and that we need the foreign workers to fill the gap, reality is grim because an excessive amount of jobs held by residents are in fact part-time jobs. And the reason is even grimmer because it's not that workers don't like to improve their income by doing more hours, but the harsh fact is that if they did it would financially hurt them instead. As poverty rises people are realising that the "classic Left" is not only not going to help them but are actually causing it and the idea of 'Nexit' is gaining popularity.
Are you really believing what you're posting? It sounds like the lies of Farage and BJ....
*In America we have the Four Corners Monument.* Where you can stand in four different States at the same time. Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona.
Beebe Plains is a town that shares their town with Vermont America and Quebec Canada. The Haskell Free library and Opera house is both in Canada and America. There's a line right down the middle of the building.
You wonder what people were thinking back then or the lack of thinking. This could have caused serious problems for those towns people.
I don't know enough about Dexit but I'm absolutely for Brexit. I'm not for a one world super power like the EU. Americans will NEVER join the EU! We're trying to kick out the United Nations for taking advantage of American Citizens. Americans pay 80% for everyone else.
The Demoncrats in America has been talking about merging with the EU for afew years now. But mentioning America taking orders from the EU are fighting words here. We're already at the end of our rope with this Government screwing around with our American Constitutional Rights. We will never allow another country to have a voice in our country!
Sorry for the rant but Borders are a very sensitive subject in America. As most of the First worlds citizens can agree. The Right half of Americans are getting sick of what's going on here. *That's all going to change for the better in about SIX months Thank God.*
Fascinating to see what they think about Brexit without looking into it. These people truly just believe what they are told.
Not a word about the fact the UK government never wanted Brexit, did everything they could to slow it down with all the consequences that came from it. The fact the EU made it extremely difficult for the UK as well.
Taking all that into account it's no wonder Brexit was badly executed and is still, after all these years, not tele finalized.
Brexit happened the only way possible, The promises made to brexiteers where always empty promises.
This video isn’t about Brexit, your comment just shows how self-centered British people are
It is separated by colonisation.
all the places where 2 of better yet 3 EU countries borders meet are a perfect spot to set up any online business since you can get your merchandise from both sides of the border while only paying a very low local shipping fee to the pick-up point nearby and likewise sending orders to the buyers on both sides of the border while only paying the local shipping fee. Good spoot would be between Poland and Germany since both are huge markets and there are lots of things that are much cheaper in one but much more expensive in the other country so you can just buy chip things in PL and send to DE and then buy cheap DE items and sell in PL..
even though the netherlands is considered one of the frugal 4 in the EU
there's no way we're leaving (neither is sweden but at least they kept their currency) lol
we're not nexiting shit, even if there would be massive public traction for it, it complicates business for a country that's built on trade
you'd sooner see a threat of that to perhaps attempt to regenotiate new terms with the EU to bargain for a stronger position, but that's all you'l l see lol
we're dutch, we don't get riled up that quickly over things, but we also don't like to be told what to think or do.
so making pvv or wilders out to be the devil, is only going to galvanize him lol
historically we've also been the protestants that somehow managed to tell the spanish armada to go kick rocks, although our treacherous waddenzee took care of a lot of them
in fact, the orange color in the irish flag represents protestantism, and the orange is a nod to the Dutch house of orange (specfically william of orange, or "willem III")