The Pokemon Conspiracy Iceberg | Layer 2
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- čas přidán 17. 12. 2023
- After a lot of request from viewers, part 2 of the Pokemon conspiracy iceberg is here! Pokemon is a franchise spanning decades, and it surprisingly has the implication of a rich lore (even if it isn't really elaborated on in the games). With such an imaginative world that is beloved by many, numerous conspiracy theories about the franchise have popped up. Today, we are going to be looking at various Pokemon theories, spanning from the games, anime, manga, and other mediums.
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Pikachu speaking was probably the most out of left field moment I’ve seen in Pokémon
Nah
That and James with boobs
@@BananaR777 u dumb?
@@assault410 damn I remember that from old CZcams, that was brought up a lot back then
When I was a kids probably around 7 I would have dreams of Pikachu having a deep voice. Close to how Kronk sounds from the emperors new groove 😂
Mega Pinsir's other entry is the most wholesome; saying how its dream of flight has come true and it happily flies about all day.
Gamefreak makes happiest bug ever, asked to ditch mega evolution.
I dunno if i believe the eeveelution one either, but a Flaeron dying in a burning tower isn't that crazy when smoke usually is the killer more than anything.
yeah, plus falling debris could also be an explanation
Yea buy one that can literally turn to water? No lol
@@-Gax-you have any idea how hot it gets in a burning building? Plus the smoke and the debris as mentioned above.
Plus, even if Vaporeon had Hydro Pump, Water Gun, and Water Pulse, it still just ONE water type against an entire burning tower.
Well then cant flareon just you know… run out? Since it’s supposedly immune to fire and heat?
@@rexisstudying rocks and other blockage.cant walk through objects
love how the "hurt" that mega evolution brings to kangaskhan is just a hyperactive child that she keeps worrying about.
Knowing about Shudo's tragic relationship with writing the Pokemon anime series and Lugia as well as the fact that he wrote Minky Momo (which has a similiarly infamous reputation) is... interesting...
What did he do with lugia? Also whats minky momo?
@@dunnkids7263 He created Lugia while going through an extremely tough and depressing time which was heavily fueled by substance and alcohol abuse while simultaneously writing for the early Pokemon anime seasons. While going throught serious bouts of depression, he saw Lugia as his child and a motivating factor to continue. However, he was often creatively restricted by the producers in how he could not only write the show, but Lugia itself, further upsetting him and causing him to spiral further. Unfortunately, he he never completed his most contemporary season due to his death as a result of his his tragic situation. DidYouKnowGaming did a really good video on him and the creation of Lugia.
Minky Momo is an old magical girl anime from the early 80's which later grew to have an infamous reputation as the anime abruptly ends with Momo (the main character) getting hit by a truck and presumably dying. That finale and sequel finale also aired during Japan's Great Hanshin Earthquake of 1995 and another earthquake. Such coinciding events led to the phenomenon being called the "Curse of Minky Momo."
i was looking if you posted the second after i just finished the first! looking forward to this video and future ones!
i am beyond excited, thank you so much for making this!!!
Yay!! Part 2 is out!! Thank you, I’ve been waiting to watch this after watching part 1 🎉🎉
Great video!! Waiting for part 3 already!!
there was a Volcanion distribution event outside of Japan, at least in the United States. i distinctly remember going to a Gamestop back during XY's lifespan and getting a Volcanion code and the employee there handing me 2 on accident and telling me to just keep the second one, which i gave to my friend. i still have that Volcanion and even that code card to this day
So excited for this video! Thank you for the hard work! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
We definitely need layer 3, great video !!
love this awaiting for the next part eagerly
Now i feel spoiled 😂 lol thanks for the early xmas gift. Merry Christmas, happy holidays and god bless
fanart of the victini and regi theories would go so hard.
Please cover the regis next video!! I love them but have never heard that theory!
After hearing this Slowpoke theory, I now feel it should be the ADHD Pokémon- constantly zoned out, knows a lot of things but can’t communicate or recall them to be of use until they get their meds- being the Shellder toxin.
I hate that we have reduced ADHD down to " have ADHD. Therefore, can't communicate, and I'm mentally slow, but I know alot. That I can't recall, but I swear I know"
I was diagnosed when I was 4yo, decades ago.
I am over communicative, and I recall everything.
Every minor detail.
I'm never zoned out, I'm like a librarian on speed. Unfortunately for my friends, who I appreciate deeply for this, I dominate all conversations. I can't help it and they let me, bless them.
A lot of people like to mix up ADD and ADHD.
Although, we do live in the day and age of sel diagnosis so it's only natural that people would misdiagnose themselves.
Either that or these very narrow boxes that we like to define people by have become so small that if you have "insert diagnosis" then you have to be just like another person with the same diagnosis instead of realising that we are still individuals.
Definitely gonna need that regi theory
23:42 Are you thinking critically about the words that are coming out of your mouth, or didn’t ya hear what the Lieutenant said, THE ELECTRIC TYPES SAVED HIM DURING ⚡️THE WAR ⚡️! So obviously he’s an immortal Frankenstein kept moving by pure electricity and American patriotism flowing through his veins.
im like half way through so idk if you mentioned it but theres a theory that the kalos war was with paldea which would explain area zero
Really cool theory
The "women's secret" trainer is from Emerald at the very least. I remember laughing at it as a kid
I’m like 99% sure it’s heart gold/ soul silver.
@@matthewmusco2581 it's possible, but I never played enough of either of those games to get to the water routes. I'm going to double check later but I'm 99% sure she's on the left side of the screen on route 105 in Emerald. Maybe Ruby and Sapphire too but I didn't play those
I disagree on the kabutops=genesect theory. Several dex entries clarify Team Plasma modified the cannon on its back rather than completely overhauling the Pokémon. The entry also implies Genesect already had a cannon on its back, which would explain why it'd have been an apex predator back then if it had a more advanced hunting adaptation than its contemporary predators like kabutops whod be using physical traits like claws and teeth to hunt. Plus there's no typing overlap at all.
Looking at genesect the cannon comes out of its shell which lines up with the shape of its head. It looks like originally they were supposed to fit together and likely the shell would hide the cannon until it was being used making it a a possible ambush predator but the Team Plasma mod keeps it permanently out as the muzzle of the cannon is a different color than the shell and extends over the head.
I like to imagine the reason Mega descriptions are so negative in Sun and Moon is because it's the first time a Rotom had control of a Dex.
It being part ghost and in general mischievous, influenced the entries.
I dont see an issue with a flareon dying in the fire. You drink water but if you fell into a huge body of water eventually you would drown. Im sure even a creature with the ability to absorb the power of fire has its limits in lore and not in game mechanics.
10/10: would recommend listening to this while doing all the cleaning in your apartment that you’ve put off for weeks. Not that I’m speaking from experience…
The Victini theory somehow reminds of how at the time of its reveal a school friend told me about an Victini leak that contained references to the 3rd Reich.
I dig your eevee/dog trio theory
10:04 Not clefable, gengar is the shadow of clefairy! Clefairy is the one that was in Red/Blue and they look similar even back then. As a kid I immediately thought this after my gengar evolved
Mewtwo can also memory wipe so it technically doesn't break cannon cause if you don't remember you don't know
Alright but now, someone remind me when pt 3 comes out xD
Layer 2 let’s go 👍
A reminder that regions are not the same as countries, as the many Japanese regions are probably in the same country, it’s possible that Kalos’ war was fought with a different region within the “France” country
Edit: that being said I do enjoy your theory on it, and would like it to be true
There's also a time gear that you see yourselfl in the bonus episode where you play as Lopunny, a ditto is guarding it so yeah there's really more than 5.
Part 2 let’s goooo
Part 3 please
why every time people didn't see zekrom he was draining pikachu electricity yes pikachu can make more but come on your going up against a legendary electric dragon and it's draining you of course it's going to lose against snivy remember the joltik draining pikachu electricity why does no body pay attention the to the scene it's like zekrom is invisible yes pikschu is high level but going against a legendary dragon that can drain your power.
58:00 the Pokemon not in Pokeballs thing... the games and anime both have the idea of "friend" pokemon, IE pokemon that aren't summoned into battle via balls, but rather just hang out in your house or whatever. This seems to be the same but on larger scale. People live with pokemon, but don't use the Capsule corp system since they're not League trainers.
dude you should cover that regi atomic energy theory
Bug wasnt meant to be weak to poison so its highly unlikely Kogan was trying to trick you just more so the game devs adding thematic trainers that ussually had a pool of Psychic. Also im 80% sure sabrina has a venomoth (Also Blue and yellow arent from pallet but viridian)
I personally hold the headcanon that the Legendary Beasts' beta forms as what they were before they turned into what we know today.
46:24 but what does the japanese line say exactly?
More please, when you get the time
Let's go
i’m really curious about the regis nuclear weapon theory
Fantina doesn't talk about fashion in any game she is in.
She talks about dancing and how she found contests when she reached Sinnoh.
Also her being from unova makes her the hint in fourth gen to fifth gen, her name being western, plus Melissa means honey bee, the theme of the gym in Castelia city which is the New York equivalent being the place for welcoming immigrants.
A few of these are easy to prove false. However I’m hyped for part 3.
Good lord those past forms for the beast are disaster, who the hell green lighted them?? Btw the swimmers quote is from HG/SS
Is alolah a sub region of unova?
Likely yeah
@@unripetheberrby6283 or nearby anyways.
I wonder Is there different dialogue if you lose the battle instead? 🤔
So slowpoke is getting hit with unlimited void constantly
Hey man! Good video
Something to improve, is you sound like your reading it from a script, which of course is true but your speaking unconfidently and making mistakes a lot,
If you narrow that down and stop making mistakes you have a great video!
The women’s secret poke ball woman is from diamond, the joke is real. On the water outside electric guys gym
Damn we def ain't getting that 3rd part of the iceberg now 😔
Why not?
I think since pokemon Scarlet and violet the evee-beasts theory is busted
I've never had the Mandela thing until the woman's secret, I played the game when it first came out and when I saw the meme i swear I remembered reading that and the vagina things was exactly what I thought the joke was
Idk i always like the bw theroy because it was a reasonable work around that allowed the lazy writing to make sense they don't need Pikachu's level to be reset ash just needs to only use it against powerful trainers like gym leaders or leaugers, guess it doesn't matter now though lol they decided to let him retire
The joke is like 90% the same, she’s wearing a blue bikini and says she doesn’t know where to put them
29:25
This was debunked, shudo never said that in the animation book or anywhere else. It was just a claim in twitter that was made up.
The answer to Pikachu level reset is that the anime doesn't have levels. Pokemon randomly evolve all the time mid fight in the anime. It's purely a game mechanic. It's also good writing to have your characters over cone challenges. Pikachu one shooting everyone with thunderbolt isn't fun for anyone
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Pokémon levels were directly referenced multiple times in the anime.
@@kyriakou8098 I think at least once. Season 1 where they go to the pokemon school I think they mention the level of when pidgey evolves.
@@assault410 I found a bulbapedia article on the topic. Apparently levels are a thing in the anime, we just don't receive many details on whether they function differently than levels in the games.
Nemoana beat geta and is better and fights you after word in an arguably more climatic battle
you need better visuals bro
Ivy being a lesbian was disproved
Well, one of the theories I heard going around was that Ivy didn't want an actual romantic relationship with Brock, instead she wanted him to knock her up so she could have kids, but had no interest in him as an actual romantic partner. This fan theory was based on very scant clues, but does have what I think to be workable logic to it.
1: we know that the anime isn't gonna come out as SAY what it was if it's related to a failed romance.
2: it's not as simple as "she said no"... there got to be weird extenuating circumstances.
3: Brock was apparently living with her for a while.
4: Brock's behavior tells us it was emotionally traumatic.... but there's no indication of why Brock found it so traumatic. Which fits with the idea they self-censored to not talk about sex.
But what would be so traumatic that Brock didn't want to talk, while also not being serious enough for legal actions? Yeah that's a fun quandry.
I enjoy this. but? More content about fortnite. Fortnite lost history. Fortnite mandela effect. fortnite beta alpha unused assets. Etc. Content about fortnite players drama
I don't know you. I never will. But know that this by itself has caused me to forever pray for your downfall.