The Pokemon Conspiracy Iceberg | Layer 1

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  • čas přidán 10. 05. 2024
  • Pokemon is a franchise spanning decades, and it surprisingly has the implication of a rich lore (even if it isn't really elaborated on in the games). With such an imaginative world that is beloved by many, numerous conspiracy theories about the franchise have poppped up. Today, we are going to be looking at various Pokemon theories, spanning from the games, anime, manga, and other mediums.
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    Make sure to like, comment, and subscribe if you enjoyed the video! I'm juggling different iceberg series, so I'm going to figure which ones to prioritize based on engagement! Your feedback is important!
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  • @Rivecha
    @Rivecha  Před 4 měsíci +7

    Part 2: czcams.com/video/0NvSx6hfU3M/video.html

  • @soniablanche5672
    @soniablanche5672 Před 8 měsíci +258

    Kanto is a real region in Japan, which means that the game was supposed to happen in the "real world", which is why there are references to real world places. It was later retconned.

    • @CelestialQueenLollipop
      @CelestialQueenLollipop Před 7 měsíci +9

      Indian elephant baby 🗿

    • @mg2030
      @mg2030 Před 7 měsíci +7

      ​@@CelestialQueenLollipopmew discovered in a jungle, according to the pokemon mansion, super retconned

    • @CantusTropus
      @CantusTropus Před 7 měsíci +14

      It also explains "the War", which was presumably just WW2.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 Před 7 měsíci +24

      ​@@CantusTropusOr, considering Lt. Surge's age and the age of his comrades, Vietnam.

    • @hectorlumbagoCringe
      @hectorlumbagoCringe Před 7 měsíci +1

      No

  • @JABofLEGENDS
    @JABofLEGENDS Před 2 měsíci +16

    12:06 “Pokemon are never going to return to Mega-Evolution” I picked a HELL of a day to watch this, apparently.

    • @saphira2323
      @saphira2323 Před měsícem

      It’s been a couple weeks now, but I was thinking the same thing 😂 hardly anyone expected it, but I’m excited they’re coming back!

  • @enriqueaquiahuatl8554
    @enriqueaquiahuatl8554 Před 7 měsíci +45

    According to Pokemon masters, Red just gets so hyper fixated in battles he doesn't even speak during them, but he has talked I think one or two times in that game, while you could argue it isn't canon, it is the general idea of the character

  • @Rivecha
    @Rivecha  Před 9 měsíci +168

    I said Type: Null was introduced in Unova. This was me misspeaking, as I intended to say Alola

    • @Axolautism
      @Axolautism Před 8 měsíci +17

      A classic case of Unovan imperialism /j

    • @mosquitopyjamas9048
      @mosquitopyjamas9048 Před 7 měsíci +9

      Isn’t Aloa a state of Unova anyway? Pretty sure Brock Obama is from there but I’d have to double check his egg cert.

    • @shiloilo
      @shiloilo Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@mosquitopyjamas9048univalve and alola themselves would be the states since their based off different ines

    • @mosquitopyjamas9048
      @mosquitopyjamas9048 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@shiloilo is unova supposed to be just New York?

    • @shiloilo
      @shiloilo Před 7 měsíci

      @@mosquitopyjamas9048 while it does have other american elements it borrows from other states the region is mainly based off new york and a little bit of new jearsy

  • @purplephoenixfyre
    @purplephoenixfyre Před 9 měsíci +23

    In the power of Alola theory, if I remember correctly, in early Alola, the people give energy to Solgaleo and Lunala to help them defeat Necrozma, they do it again to help Ash and the gang defeat Necrozma, like when everyone gave power to Goku to use the spirit bomb, other than that, fire iceberg vid

  • @janomomo153
    @janomomo153 Před 7 měsíci +17

    How the fuck is this only layer one, and we're already talking about multiverses and time travel??

  • @FRAPPEFIZZYY
    @FRAPPEFIZZYY Před 8 měsíci +12

    okay so i have NO clue where this started but Pokémon: Legends Arceus is NOT a spin-off game: it’s been confirmed as mainline and paired with the rest of the mainline games many many many times at this point

    • @MouldMadeMind
      @MouldMadeMind Před 7 měsíci

      What's the definition of spin off?

    • @FRAPPEFIZZYY
      @FRAPPEFIZZYY Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@MouldMadeMind a game in the same franchise, but not in the “core series”
      games like Pokémon Dash, Conquest, UNITE, GO, Mystery Dungeon, detective Pikachu , are all considered spinoff games as they aren’t part of the main series

    • @a-s-greig
      @a-s-greig Před 7 měsíci +4

      ​@@MouldMadeMindMainline games are made by Game Freak (or are BDSP), can battle/trade Pokémon with other games of its Generation, are on handhelds (or hybrids, thanks Switch).
      Pokémon Company wants Legends Arc as mainline? We don't question it.
      (Colosseum remakes someday) 🤞

  • @ssj99lucario
    @ssj99lucario Před 8 měsíci +73

    Not mentioned in the video. The "Sam is Professor Oak" theory/fact actually has something else to it; in the original ending, after traveling back in time, Sam wakes up and sees a younger Towa (not the one from Dragon Ball) who was checking on him after hearing"The Voice of the Forest". Sam was going to tell her but then states that it was a dream.
    Sam being Professor Oak was stated during the credits when Tracy finds the old sketchbook and sees the drawing of Pikachu and Celebi... when everyone would more than likely be walking out of the theater.
    The new scene was a change made by the dubs' producers.

  • @Jonasansu
    @Jonasansu Před 5 měsíci +14

    I would kill for Legends Victini. It would be cool seeing it taking place in the same time period as Arceus so we could get turn of the century nyc with things like flappers a mafia based evil team the city being built up and getting its first skyscraper people immigrating from a bunch of different regions. It would be such a fun and unique setting.

    • @Rivecha
      @Rivecha  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yeah I was also thinking of a legends Unova game thats based off 20s NYC, we can also have it be a sequel to Legends Arceus since the time period matches up, it would be like 30 years later. Have the player character be born in that time and join the Plasma Detective Agency, which goes around the region investigating crimes against people and Pokemon. There would be some cool regional forms like Smeargle based off of old fashioned cartoons and rock type duraludon based on concrete skyscrapers. A plot twist would come later in the game where colress's ancestor uses porygon found in the space-time rifts of Hisui to figure out time travel, and she uses it to open a portal to go back in time and get the ultimate dragon for evil shenanigans. However, you get sent back and get trapped there after the portal closes, and the second part of the game would be a mix of wild-west/medieval unova where you navigate the civil turmoil caused by the two princes while also trying to figure out how to return to the present.

    • @dinaariaudio4944
      @dinaariaudio4944 Před měsícem

      @@Rivechaan interesting idea for sure. although if nyc is your base, there is no such thing as a “medieval” nyc, at least in the way most ppl think of. not much in the way of “west” either

  • @MiBrCo4177
    @MiBrCo4177 Před 7 měsíci +38

    I remember seeing Gary having 10 gym badges in the show when I was a kid and my brain immediately started wondering about other regions he went to other gyms and what other pokémon there are out there. I'm surprised we haven't seen gyms with those badges in the games yet or in the show for that matter.

  • @weebsquit347
    @weebsquit347 Před 8 měsíci +17

    I think Gamefreak not revealing many Pokemon in the modern games has to do with the complaints back in Sun and Moon.
    People weren't happy with all Pokemon being revealed for that game, so I think that's why they keep most of them secret now.

    • @sond.lollipop8919
      @sond.lollipop8919 Před 5 měsíci +1

      That’s definitely why. People literally hated all the new Pokémon and only like the region variants for OG Pokémon before release

  • @coffee-ouji
    @coffee-ouji Před 6 měsíci +11

    the entry about Wally's asthma warms my heart bc i also saw that in the adventures manga (that again, is not an official source) he has a special breathing aid built for him and he becomes an even more relevant character
    idk i just really like the little guy and i like that he got more recognition in the mangas (i def should read them)

  • @sgir7472
    @sgir7472 Před 6 měsíci +21

    The Anime actually talks about in the original series there being more than 8 gyms in Kanto but the 8 badged are just the number you need before being considered strong enough for the Pokemon League, iirc theres supposed to be like 15 gyms in Kanto, and the ones in the games are more like the better known ones that people go to, like say someone from out of town was given the choice between a chain restaurant they know about and a family diner that theyve never been too, they're more likely to go the route of the familiar more talked about chain restaurant, ands thats how it is for Gyms, they're simply the better known ones

    • @ryanstephens3082
      @ryanstephens3082 Před 4 měsíci

      This was confirmed in one of the journeys shows when stow on side had the fighting gym and the ghost gym where Ash learned to gigantimax his gengar

    • @sgir7472
      @sgir7472 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@ryanstephens3082 yeah, but that's Galar Generation 8, this was in reference to early in the Anime where Gary had more gym badges than gyms we knew of, back in the Indigo League for Kanto

    • @ryanstephens3082
      @ryanstephens3082 Před 4 měsíci

      @@sgir7472 actually just confirmed it, in general 1, you didn’t get a badge from the Karate Master but he very much did have a gym/dojo

    • @sgir7472
      @sgir7472 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ryanstephens3082 it's pretty obvious that you don't get a badge form the karate master, and, you didn't read my reply?? The moment in the video I was referencing was talking specifically about an early anime moment before Galar was even thought of, Gary is seen showing off badges of gym we knew in the Kanto league but also gym badges we never see the gym too as they never used the badge designs for other gyms after the fact

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 Před 7 měsíci +11

    Originally the gym leaders worked for Team Rocket as well.
    Technically we have confirmation of a Kalos war

  • @AmityvilleFan
    @AmityvilleFan Před 9 měsíci +48

    For Blue's raticate:
    - if Blue is for powah, why put away any pokemon of his if he still has free slots in his party - which he still has
    - he asks "why are you here if none of your pokemon is dead", implying at least one of HIS pokemon IS dead.
    I buy the theory. Not necessarily that it dioed for the USS Anne, but that it did die.

    • @Cutekuramon
      @Cutekuramon Před 8 měsíci +9

      Maybe Gary saw that his ratticate was being outclassed and tried to train it even harder to compensate. And he accidentally killed it.

    • @Axolautism
      @Axolautism Před 8 měsíci +6

      Blue may have lost a pokemon in the past, but he knows you haven't had pokemon before the journey, so he could have visited a pokemon that has been dead for a while before the game takes place. Imo Raticate is in the box because it sucks and is weak, Blue is mourning a different pokemon he was close to during its life

    • @Kahadi
      @Kahadi Před 8 měsíci +5

      To completely counter your arguments:
      How useful is a Raticate in that situation? He doesn't use TMs on any of his Pokemon for whatever reason (I know the mechanical reason, but I mean story reason), leaving his Kadabra with only 3 attacks, his potential Growlithe with 3 attacks, and his potential Exeggcute with 2 attacks. And without TMs, Raticate only knows Normal attacks in gen 1, making it useless against Ghost-types. He may as well have nothing there anyway.
      His dialog is specifically "what brings you here? Your Pokemon don't look dead! I can at least make them faint! Let's go, pal!" Which sure doesn't sound like someone grieving over a dead Pokemon.
      His dialog if you talk to him after the battle kind of answers everything. "How's your Pokedex coming, pal? I just caught a Cubone! I can't find the grown-up Marowak yet! I doubt there are any left! Well, I better get going! I've got a lot to accomplish, pal! Smell ya later!"
      Looking at what he says, there's the answers. Why is he there? To catch Pokemon, specifically Cubone, probably looking for Marowak, maybe some failed attempts at a Ghastly. Why isn't Raticate on his team? Because he just caught a Cubone, giving him 7 Pokemon, the 5 we see in battle, the unseen Cubone, and the missing Raticate. Now, we never do see a Cubone or Marowak on his team despite this dialog, so either it was already fainted when we encountered him, or he caught it after the battle but before we talk to him again and the lack of Raticate was preemptive, ensuring he had space for a replacement (remember, in gen 1, if your party is full, any new Pokemon you catch are automatically sent to the box, no option to send something else instead and no access to the box without visiting a Pokemon Center).
      So... What makes more sense? His Raticate died, with absolutely no mention of that happening, no signs of grief or loss, and no other instances of a Pokemon dying as the result of an official battle with another Trainer, not to mention the nonsense explanation that he couldn't get to the Pokemon Center in time because the SS Anne left with him aboard despite the fact he leaves the ship ahead of us? Or that, as he said, he caught a Cubone to replace a Raticate that was at the point of being outclassed and would have been useless against the Ghost-types of the Pokemon Tower anyway?

    • @valor1omega
      @valor1omega Před 8 měsíci +2

      Or it could be one of his pokemon died a long time ago or like if we go to a graveyard for no real reason and someone asking why we are there.
      Remember he also said he was after a cuebone which are found there.
      So as far as I am concerned that debunked the rat is dead.

    • @AmityvilleFan
      @AmityvilleFan Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@Axolautism Could this, could that. Both option seems equaly plausible - but you did not explain 3 facts: Blue/Gary is your rival who wants to win, he is missing his rattata from his team, and third: he still has space in his team. Even if that's a 10 wort % rattata, it still should be in his team.
      According to Occam's razor, his rattata is dead as F.

  • @tvb5509
    @tvb5509 Před 6 měsíci +10

    The Pokémon War is undoubtedly canon, but it has changed.
    While mentions of it have mellowed, the implications are still there. The Fame Checker in FRLG added dialogue that expands on his war legacy.
    Masters expands his character even further. He thinks he's cowardly because of his slight paranoia, setting traps and multiple locks to his own room just in case. He's not upset about it though.
    The biggest evidence to the war comes from his revised background as a Unovan. The Swords of Justice are war heroes as well, it's very likely that Surge was a part of that war.
    I dont think the "lack" of males really works though.

  • @thomasalvarenga2839
    @thomasalvarenga2839 Před 8 měsíci +38

    Admittedly I prefer the theory (thought I am not sure how much this has been considered in the wider fanbase) that Legend Unova could be actually set in the future. I say this since Gen 9 made the future and past dichotomy and Arceus’s focused on the past so the next could be about the future. It also makes sense since I think Gen 5 was the first era with a distinct future aesthetic in places, and our first cyborg Pokémon. If anything I think the focus mon could be Genesect since he combines the past with the future, being a fossil turned into a Pokémon.

    • @RocksMisInternets
      @RocksMisInternets Před 6 měsíci +1

      Not to mention that the Unova games received sequels. A friend and I were talking in Discord and we thought maybe it would be called Legacies, and set in the future. Legends for the past setting and Legacies for the future set games. Time distortions from the past could invade a futuristic setting.

  • @LinkageAX
    @LinkageAX Před 8 měsíci +8

    Mew-ditto: i think ditto being in the mansion is because they were using dittos at some point to force them into turning into mews using mew dna, and then extracting what they need from the transformed ditto

    • @samable7724
      @samable7724 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I like this idea a lot more, considering ditto are EVERYWHERE. I don't see what failed clones of Mew would be doing outside Medali in Paldea.

  • @coffee-ouji
    @coffee-ouji Před 6 měsíci +7

    i think the Red is mute is simply a joke that has been taken by the writers bc tbh mute characters everyone seems chill with is a typical anime trope and I think it's funny in USUM
    but He does have a line during the battle if he heals/calls out another pokémon

  • @saltinefromindiana
    @saltinefromindiana Před 8 měsíci +27

    With the Venomoth/Butterfree switch, my biggest argument against it is what the pokemon are based on. Venonat is based on poisonous caterpillars and loosely based on fleas, but the caterpillars it is based on grows into moths. Metapod is a chrysalis, which is what caterpillars use to turn into butterflies. If anything Caterpie would make more sense to evolve into a moth than metapod. Then again, Kakuna spits in my argument's face and gives me a bee

    • @valor1omega
      @valor1omega Před 8 měsíci +1

      Caterpie if you look at the Mormon caterpillar it looks almost exactly like it.
      While Butterfree looks basically like the black vein white butterfly found in Japan.

    • @nanabobo567
      @nanabobo567 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I'm gonna blow your mind.
      Go look up what bee larvae look like while going under metamorphosis. They're normally packed away in honeycombs like Combee, but inside of those hexagons you'll find a creature that looks just like Kakuna, complete with its legs up at its neck like a little bowtie.

    • @saltinefromindiana
      @saltinefromindiana Před 8 měsíci +4

      @nanabobo567 ik. Kakuna is based off a bee pupa stage, but it's evolution is more in line with a moth's life cycle and Beedrill is a giant Asian Hornet, not a bee

    • @mosquitopyjamas9048
      @mosquitopyjamas9048 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Eh then why isn’t it called GiantAsianHornetdrill? Checkmate atheists

    • @saltinefromindiana
      @saltinefromindiana Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@mosquitopyjamas9048 Curses, foiled again!

  • @harrietdrums
    @harrietdrums Před 7 měsíci +10

    Full series of this would be awesome, i love that it's multiple Pokémon properties and not just the games/anime

  • @ZDTexas
    @ZDTexas Před 9 měsíci +14

    Lets go, needed a new iceberg to binge thank you

  • @Cherry44_
    @Cherry44_ Před 9 měsíci +16

    even though I'm not into Pokémon its cool to see you branch out to different things.
    Its always good to do videos on what you like!

  • @Yukisan11
    @Yukisan11 Před 5 měsíci +3

    This was really great! I’ve watched several different Pokémon icebergs but yours is the most in-depth and I really enjoy that. I can’t wait for the next episode!

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 Před 7 měsíci +6

    26:36 Imagine going through all of that effort just to not be able to understand what he said

  • @captinunicorncaptinunicorn1547
    @captinunicorncaptinunicorn1547 Před 8 měsíci +10

    i need more of this it's great bud love the detail you go into

  • @Cutekuramon
    @Cutekuramon Před 8 měsíci +26

    My theory on the 10 badges is that Gary forged a few fake ones to troll Ash lmao. It's definitely an animation error but it feels like something Gary would do 🤣
    Great iceberg! I adore pokemon and I'm excited to see the next part!

    • @ShirouYukihime
      @ShirouYukihime Před 7 měsíci +8

      It’s basically canon that the anime world has more gyms then in games, Serena says the xy route Ash takes is the fastest and sawyer (I believe) has anime only badges

    • @1Hol1Tiger
      @1Hol1Tiger Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@ShirouYukihimeMakes sense considering Gary straight up didn't know Cinnabar had a gym and was only there on vacation

  • @anonanonymous9670
    @anonanonymous9670 Před 8 měsíci +6

    About Arceus' true form
    Don't we see it in the very beginning of the game as a being of pure light?
    Personally I think that's what the true Arceus is and we just can't comprehend it so it's just light

  • @goomygamer7726
    @goomygamer7726 Před 7 měsíci +5

    This is one of the best icebergs Ive watched, please do a part 2!

  • @shanleyyelnahs
    @shanleyyelnahs Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you so much for making this!! I love that it's not only just based on the games, but you put really everything in!

  • @exxleestudios6529
    @exxleestudios6529 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I almost never comment on video’s but the quality of the content you’ve created here is fantastic. Please keep making videos.

  • @yew5996
    @yew5996 Před 6 měsíci +1

    A great listen to run through time at work. Enjoyed hearing your inputs and the entries of the more recent stuff, looking forward to the other layers 👍

    • @Rivecha
      @Rivecha  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks for the compliment! Part 2 is up now!

  • @EvanBear
    @EvanBear Před 7 měsíci +3

    I subscribed just for this series. Please continue it!

  • @zvigel3128
    @zvigel3128 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great Video, can´t wait for Part 2!

  • @RoseSupreme
    @RoseSupreme Před 7 měsíci +9

    This has to be the first Iceberg Video I've ever seen that *DOESN'T* needlessly explain what an Iceberg Chart is.
    Unironically, thank you *SO MUCH* for not explaining what an Iceberg Chart is. I'm so tired of literally every Iceberg Video doing that. There are *HUNDREDS* of Iceberg Videos out there - I think everybody has a general *IDEA* of what an Iceberg Video is. And if on the off chance that they don't, that's too bad. It's common knowledge at this point.

    • @garycampany5861
      @garycampany5861 Před 5 měsíci

      Too bad that’s replaced with a bunch of bitching and moaning lmao

  • @roxxmaru
    @roxxmaru Před 7 měsíci +4

    59:58 more info!
    in pokemon masters, red has like a few sentences!
    one is "Words are unnecessary!" so, there ya go

  • @JustShova
    @JustShova Před 8 měsíci +1

    Amazing video, would love to see more!!

  • @jlshootingstar333
    @jlshootingstar333 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I 1000% believe we will get a Let's Go Johto, Legends Unova (about the original dragon that split into Zekrom, Reshiram, and Kyurem), and of course a gen 5 remake next year and/or the year after

  • @Jordan-pp5bo
    @Jordan-pp5bo Před 7 měsíci +3

    I was fairly certain that Ash wishing to be young forever was explicitly canon in the Anime
    Characters around him age while he does not, and it is acknowledged
    And once he says he is done being a Pokemon trainer going around the world, he suddenly becomes an adult and is replaced as the mc seemingly with no timeskip

  • @drivingblind1892
    @drivingblind1892 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Please do a part 2 to this!!

  • @puzzleplank4333
    @puzzleplank4333 Před 8 měsíci +9

    wow, as weird as it sounds, i guess it never clicked with me that the legends arceus protagonist was the gen 4 protagonist sent via an ultra wormhole

    • @Rivecha
      @Rivecha  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Yeah, there's actually an entry further down in the iceberg just dedicated to it. I wouldn't blame anybody for thinking that it was just a random kid though.

    • @Kahadi
      @Kahadi Před 8 měsíci

      Well it wasn't via an Ultra Wormhole. It was Arceus.

  • @esotericpince
    @esotericpince Před 7 měsíci +1

    i really liked this video :) cant believe you dont have more subscribers

  • @pjvaz1985
    @pjvaz1985 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Subbed for the next layer of the iceberg, hope you cover it soon

  • @Axolautism
    @Axolautism Před 8 měsíci +4

    52:20 I feel like this theory is just fans tumbling backwards over themselves through forgetting and relearning that Pokémon are magical creatures

  • @astroferret4700
    @astroferret4700 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Can’t wait to see the 2nd layer

  • @crylemite
    @crylemite Před 7 měsíci +4

    A little correction concerning the cubone theories entry : cubone's mother cannot be another specie. Ditto makes clones, and ditto is the only way to get a child the same specie as the father

    • @beepyyy
      @beepyyy Před 7 měsíci

      technically even then the child still inherits its species from the mother. the father contributes its IVs and shit

  • @Chance4
    @Chance4 Před 8 měsíci +4

    this was a great video!

    • @Rivecha
      @Rivecha  Před 8 měsíci

      Glad you liked it!!

    • @Chance4
      @Chance4 Před 8 měsíci +1

      i make sure to leave a comment on any small creator's video i see and enjoy!@@Rivecha

  • @Obironnkenobi
    @Obironnkenobi Před 7 měsíci +2

    12:20 - When you were talking about timelines and having some version of the gen 1 games happening in the mega timeline, and gen 7 taking place in the non-mega timeline, that gave me an idea: It would be really cool for them to revisit earlier generations and retell the story from the point of view of it being from the different timeline. Like have a Black and White remake that deals with Mega Evolution. It would make everyone happy that wants Mega Evolution back, and takes the story back to a fan favorite region. It would be really cool.

  • @EmiCheese
    @EmiCheese Před 7 měsíci +3

    Oh, I'm 100% the opposite. Seeing leaks of designs close to the game release makes want to play it less. You have no idea how exciting it was to me to see every new pokemon for the first time during Scarlet and Violet. Having had the opposite experience in Sun and Moon when almost all the dex was revealed by TPC, this was so much more fun.

  • @danielhodson6411
    @danielhodson6411 Před 7 měsíci +9

    This as a finished series would probably blow up tbh. Well made.

  • @snakeattacker2857
    @snakeattacker2857 Před 2 měsíci +4

    12:04
    "The fact that pokemon is never gonna come back to mega evolutions"
    Me in 2024 after Pokemon day... Well about thaaaat 👀

  • @kingofthemudkips445
    @kingofthemudkips445 Před 8 měsíci +2

    As king of the mudkips I bless this video

  • @deja0entendu
    @deja0entendu Před 7 měsíci +12

    Creator: Cynthia is not Verity’s mother
    Narrator: that’s bullshit. It’s Cynthia.

  • @theapexsurvivor9538
    @theapexsurvivor9538 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Technically the 3rd games served as patches and DLC for the cartridge generations. The reason Z never happened is because TPC basically cut the time that would have gone into it because X&Y didn't produce enough merch and cards and they wanted to get the Hoenn nostalgia ASAP (TPC and by extension the execs at GF love putting the devs under a massive amount of crunch, which has resulted in less and less quality control before release, but also made having a 3rd game much less doable)

  • @LucyKosaki
    @LucyKosaki Před 7 měsíci +7

    I don't see the third versions as a cashgrab, it's more like DLC, where they adding content afterwards. It's pretty common workflow in japan, like the monster hunter series, the atelier series, even some naruto games and many others are doing this too. There is always kind of an awkward gap after completing a title and developing a new title, where people are planning and designing the new games and during those months, the programmers, modelers ect. have nothing to do and are basicly jobless. Letting them make content that's based on already released content and just adding to it, is a great way to keep everyone busy and yes, it does bring additional income. Back then there was no way to just download and add separate DLC, so they had to sell it as separate games with still Pokemon missing to not make the previously released games redundant, but nowadays every console has internet and instead of having to rebuy the games, you can just buy the DLC for like half the price of the full game. Especially with addon games like the 5th gen, I think they really tried hard to make them feel unique and not like copypaste games with a little extra content.

    • @garycampany5861
      @garycampany5861 Před 5 měsíci

      Exactly but crybabies will call it a cash grab lmao

  • @Internettoughguy547
    @Internettoughguy547 Před 6 měsíci

    This was VERY well done

  • @happylambie2492
    @happylambie2492 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Keep going!

  • @CorraThaxton
    @CorraThaxton Před 6 měsíci +2

    29:36 Or the dex entries, like real world encyclopedias, also contain folk lore, myths, and common sayings about the Pokemon.

    • @Rivecha
      @Rivecha  Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah I literally say that

  • @MasontheMarxistDog
    @MasontheMarxistDog Před 7 měsíci

    Where did you get that iceberg

  • @jessmartinez539
    @jessmartinez539 Před 5 měsíci

    Love this!

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Volo's second outfit reminds me of ancient Greek clothing as opposed to the rest of hisui being very old school Japan

  • @iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii7738
    @iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii7738 Před měsícem +1

    Tbh I always assumed that Gary having 10 badges was just a little joke put in by the producers. Like the idea that he’s supposed to be so cool and popular and always better than Ash to the point where he somehow has more than the 8 badges you can get normally, just so he can rub it in Ash’s face that he’d never be as good as him

  • @sparkxii.
    @sparkxii. Před 7 měsíci +7

    I'm so excited to see the other layers of this Iceberg, especially the 'PLA is in the Non-Mega Timeline' one, cause I also believe in that! Keep up the good work, and can I get a link to that Iceberg image?

    • @Rivecha
      @Rivecha  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks, layer 2 is out! The link to the original iceberg image is in the description of that video

  • @aidenb7444
    @aidenb7444 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I had this one crackpot theory that I came up with during my playthrough of Scarlet. Pretty much most of the information Nemona says about herself during the last section of the game was completely made up because she didn’t like being around Arven or Penny. Mainly just because despite how close Nemona is with us during the game, we don’t get any of that kind of info until we’re in Area 0. I made this up as a joke and to provide some characterization to Nemona as well

  • @Themacattack1209
    @Themacattack1209 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I’m glad you mentioned the flaws with the version releases. It’s an antiquated concept that maybe at first was to encourage trading with friends and show up system capabilities, but now it’s literally for more money. DLC, while used in negative ways these days, is superior because they can fix the base game while adding new content, for cheaper than a brand new game. Yeah you could wait to buy the definitive version and forget the originals, but few people are going to want to wait a year to get a new Pokémon game and everything is gonna be online in that year so it’s next to impossible to avoid spoilers while waiting for it. DLC makes the original version the definitive version, but I wish that stuff was all just added in base game by giving more development time. Not likely, but one can hope.

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 Před 7 měsíci +4

    "A lot of fortnite leakers are actually in contact with Epic and only leak what they are allowed" So it's not a leak

    • @Rivecha
      @Rivecha  Před 7 měsíci

      It's kinda the inverse, where they're only not allowed to leak what Epic tells them not to.

  • @thousand1183
    @thousand1183 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Fire video

  • @shslju
    @shslju Před 8 měsíci +1

    wow amazing video

  • @Chairman_Wang
    @Chairman_Wang Před 2 měsíci +2

    Man watching the announcement and then looking at these theories is great.
    "Megas will never come back"
    "Based on history and precedence, next legends is Johto or Unova"
    GF: next legends is Kalos lmao. Also it's Pokemon Z (-A)

  • @tvb5509
    @tvb5509 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I think there was another indirect confirmation of a leak. During an interview with Masuda and Ohmori before SwSh, they were asked if Sirfetch'd had been inspired by Madame from the then recently found GS Demo. Masuda laughed and said they made the new evolution from scratch.

  • @NobleManager
    @NobleManager Před 7 měsíci +1

    Commenting to hopefully get a part2 at some point 🙌

  • @Sozile
    @Sozile Před 7 měsíci +1

    Oh this video was awesome

  • @frankiemorga2873
    @frankiemorga2873 Před 8 měsíci +6

    The enhanced version vs dlc rant reminded me that Pokemon fans hate when gamefreak offers them more content regardless of how much they ask them to pay for it. They even hate it when free stuff is given to them like the recent freebies in SV, like damn if you dont want the Cetitan dont get it.

    • @garycampany5861
      @garycampany5861 Před 5 měsíci

      Love this franchise but the bigger it’s gotten the more whineasses it’s gotten. Tons of toxic people here that are never happy.

  • @cinnamo7
    @cinnamo7 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Commenting to let you know i want more parts 👍

  • @notarotomwithhair5637
    @notarotomwithhair5637 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I can disprove the Lt. Surge theory, in let’s go eevee/pikachu before the gym battle, he says “A Pokèmon battle is war!”

  • @MatameVideos
    @MatameVideos Před 8 měsíci +2

    What can give a little credibility to the entry about Gamefreak leeking new Pokemon on purpose is that by not endorsing the designs officially they won't spoil the surprise since hundreds of fale mons are created before a new release no one can now with certainty which designs are real or fake

  • @icebearlikestrains6238
    @icebearlikestrains6238 Před 6 měsíci +1

    about the marowak and kangaskhan thing, some sprites for gen 1 were leaked a handful of years ago and there appears to have been an evolution to marowak that heavily resembles kangaskhan. dr. lava has more information on it on his twitter

  • @Caffeinated_Firefly
    @Caffeinated_Firefly Před 2 měsíci

    I remember a fanfic stating that filling the pokedex is like an exercise for kids to learn to study pokemon and possibly get interested in science, and that the professors review these entries, though I don't remember the exact reason for this. I thought it was neat way to bring it together

  • @MrToonGhallon
    @MrToonGhallon Před 6 měsíci +1

    58:59 this can also explain how some legendary Pokémon can be shiny. If you can only get one then how do you know the one you got isn’t shiny?

  • @maximilliansummers3725
    @maximilliansummers3725 Před 4 měsíci

    Yes. Yes Yes Yes! Please give us more!

  • @kyleellis1825
    @kyleellis1825 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The pokedex is wring because the proffesors all only have a grade 4 education.

    • @Rivecha
      @Rivecha  Před 7 měsíci +1

      you may be on to something, its not like we see any schools past elementary/middle school level...

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@RivechaAnd even the school we go to in S/V that is world renowned, is teaching our trainers basic addition which is a grade 1-2 thing (when they teach them anything besides battling at all).

  • @LMK-Gaming
    @LMK-Gaming Před 4 měsíci

    One thing to note on about X&Y and the Mega Timeline was also the introduction of the Fairy type which has also been retconned into the past 3 set of remakes which means that any game that features Fairy types is set in the Mega Timeline.

  • @Axolautism
    @Axolautism Před 8 měsíci +40

    I resent everyone who interprets Nemona in a negative light. She's pokégoku and she also has a special interest in battling powerful trainers, which for her are sorely lacking in Paldea

  • @malic_zarith
    @malic_zarith Před 6 měsíci +1

    Honestly Ghetsis makes Giovanni look like a saint. He literally crucifies the Unova gym leaders in the manga. His abusive relationship with N is the worst thing I've ever seen in the games.

  • @jacobasher3046
    @jacobasher3046 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Nothing like watching an hour of Pokémon conspiracies 👍

  • @ericm215
    @ericm215 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Theory: Volo is Link from OOT Time loop stuff: Mewtwo is the cubones true mother.

  • @johnmoser9731
    @johnmoser9731 Před 6 měsíci +1

    That XY ghost girl was creepy as shit. I seriously thought my game was haunted. I was in my 20s hahaha

    • @gameliking
      @gameliking Před 6 měsíci

      Same. I was 13 at the time so it was even worse lol.

    • @jascha8681
      @jascha8681 Před 5 měsíci

      I was exited because I hoped for a cool and scary side quest :(

  • @presidenttev4537
    @presidenttev4537 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Take a shot every time “however” is said

  • @YukiooMgl
    @YukiooMgl Před 8 měsíci +2

    cover it pleaaase

  • @MortanAMrk
    @MortanAMrk Před 2 měsíci +1

    With the Venonat/Butterfree conundrum, Butterfree probably felt better in as a early game pokemon compared to venomoth being a better just a mid game pokemon so a switch was made, thats my conspiracy

  • @valor1omega
    @valor1omega Před 8 měsíci +1

    Let's not forget Gardevoir is supposedly able to produce a singularity to "protect" their trainer.
    The singularity would just destroy the planet or at the very least extremely dangerous to life in the area around the Gardevoir using it.
    Then there are the pokemon that eat children or beach goers.
    Sorry but if those pokemon was actually eating people they would be hunted down and destroyed to the very last causing extinction of those pokemon.
    Humans are known for destroying threats to children or people.
    Good example is Jaws movie and humanity almost wiped out great white sharks because of fear.
    So that's why hypno, the balloon pokemon, the candle pokemon, the sandcastle pokemon, ect would all have been destroyed for the same reason the great white sharks almost destroyed.
    So most of the dex are basically crap.

    • @MouldMadeMind
      @MouldMadeMind Před 7 měsíci +1

      So humans would destroy any percieved threat.
      Therefore the percieved threats can't actually be threatening because they aren't destroyed?

  • @xiggles
    @xiggles Před 4 měsíci

    I've seen this idea explored before but I'd like to see a Unova Legends game set in the future. Or just any Legends game set in the future, but I think Unova in particular would be cool especially if it was stylized like Opelucid City in Pokemon Black

  • @Pumpkagami
    @Pumpkagami Před 4 měsíci +2

    Are you doing a part two 👀👀

  • @ShadowsSurroundUs
    @ShadowsSurroundUs Před 5 měsíci

    Great video, would recommend you up your voice or lower the background music just a tad. When the horns kick in during gen 3 songs it gets really hard to hear you

  • @BustyNA
    @BustyNA Před 7 měsíci +2

    The most unbelievable statement in this video is the creator saying ultra sun and moon are some of the best pokemon games lmfao

    • @Rivecha
      @Rivecha  Před 7 měsíci +2

      nah they were overhated because they came out too soon after Sun and Moon and people didn't want to play a similar game again. In a vacuum they're probably one of the best pair of games in the series, top half at the very least.

    • @GreatRaijin
      @GreatRaijin Před 6 měsíci

      GEN 7 was bottom 3

  • @mystery9527
    @mystery9527 Před 5 měsíci

    Are you going to do another one??

    • @Rivecha
      @Rivecha  Před 4 měsíci

      Part 2 is up now!

  • @allewis-douville7389
    @allewis-douville7389 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Fun Fact about the Mimikyu Entry: Team Rockets Meowth actually looked under its cloak and essentially almost died.

  • @Polowogs
    @Polowogs Před 7 měsíci +1

    Plz continue

  • @SpentGladiator
    @SpentGladiator Před 5 měsíci

    isn’t the pokemon war in the manga? i remember matpat talking about it in his raticate death conspiracy video, no idea if i’m remembering correctly or not.